The far right

[Banks of the Bann]

That state of this.

https://x.com/kthopkins/status/1932380854799729076?s=46

[tbrick18]

Social media seems to be completely overran with these tools, with incessant far right comments on the simplest of posts.  I saw a yank tourist post yesterday enjoying their time in Dublin and their post was filled with comments about how Ireland is overrun with immigrants and that it isnt safe.  What's going on with this targeted push of hate?  Are these paid bots or is it just the empty vessels make the most noise scenario? 

Mostly bots and Russia is behind it. They are fomenting division and unrest in every country in Europe.

I'm sure bots/Russia/china are partly behind it but the algorithms used to decide what content you see also play a huge part.
You watch content on a particular subject, you are more likely to see more of that same subject appear in your feed, which actually skews your overall view of things. You're not actually seeing other contradictory content - which leads you to believe that everyone out there has this pov. Social media has a lot to answer for when it comes to polarised views and even knowing that, it's really difficult to get a balanced view on anything online.

[imtommygunn]

I was at a talk by the guy who created the internet and the theme was why he regretted creating the internet. This is exactly why...

Even the likes of that stuff in Ballymena the last night or two has influences on social media etc. It's rife.

[thewobbler]

Social media seems to be completely overran with these tools, with incessant far right comments on the simplest of posts.  I saw a yank tourist post yesterday enjoying their time in Dublin and their post was filled with comments about how Ireland is overrun with immigrants and that it isnt safe.  What's going on with this targeted push of hate?  Are these paid bots or is it just the empty vessels make the most noise scenario? 

Mostly bots and Russia is behind it. They are fomenting division and unrest in every country in Europe.

Lol.

I guess it then must be Bots and Russia are responsible for the increase in immigration too?

Sometimes the obvious answer to a problem is right in front of you.

[Rossfan]

You condoning the extremists then?

[JoG2]

Social media seems to be completely overran with these tools, with incessant far right comments on the simplest of posts.  I saw a yank tourist post yesterday enjoying their time in Dublin and their post was filled with comments about how Ireland is overrun with immigrants and that it isnt safe.  What's going on with this targeted push of hate?  Are these paid bots or is it just the empty vessels make the most noise scenario? 

Mostly bots and Russia is behind it. They are fomenting division and unrest in every country in Europe.

Lol.

I guess it then must be Bots and Russia are responsible for the increase in immigration too?

Sometimes the obvious answer to a problem is right in front of you.

A 'lol' moment? .... A race into the gutter

[Banks of the Bann]

Social media seems to be completely overran with these tools, with incessant far right comments on the simplest of posts.  I saw a yank tourist post yesterday enjoying their time in Dublin and their post was filled with comments about how Ireland is overrun with immigrants and that it isnt safe.  What's going on with this targeted push of hate?  Are these paid bots or is it just the empty vessels make the most noise scenario? 

Mostly bots and Russia is behind it. They are fomenting division and unrest in every country in Europe.

Lol.

I guess it then must be Bots and Russia are responsible for the increase in immigration too?

Sometimes the obvious answer to a problem is right in front of you.

You think those desperate ME migrants on the Poland-Belarus border appeared there from thin air? Who transported them there and for what purpose?

Russia has learned to weaponise the immigration issue and use it to promote far right knuckledragger parties all across Europe, e.g. AfD. Most far right knuckle dragger parties across Europe are also pro-Russia and anti-EU so it's a win-win for them.

[thewobbler]

You condoning the extremists then?

Absolutely not.

But the reason for what you fellas describe as "far right" unrest in places like Ireland has got a lot more to do with the increasing presence of immigrants, and much less to do with influencers, than you'll ever be prepared to admit.

Human beings are tribal. We are instinctively a lot more accommodating when one of our own steps out of line, than we are when it's one of the "others". Which is why all across Ireland this weekend, at club GAA matches, you'll have people describing their team's psychotic behaviour as either "out of character" or "completely justified", whilst judging the opposing team's tackling / physical play as GBH, worthy of a prison sentence, pure thuggery.


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Ballyholland are playing Kilcoo on Friday evening. Imagine there was a social experiment that nobody in the crowd was permitted to speak at the match, but all they could do is comment on a social media thread where both sets of supporters contributed. Do you know what this would end up with? It would be vile, absolutely vile. And it wouldn't be because of Russians or bots.

[JoG2]

You condoning the extremists then?

Absolutely not.

But the reason for what you fellas describe as "far right" unrest in places like Ireland has got a lot more to do with the increasing presence of immigrants, and much less to do with influencers, than you'll ever be prepared to admit.

Human beings are tribal. We are instinctively a lot more accommodating when one of our own steps out of line, than we are when it's one of the "others". Which is why all across Ireland this weekend, at club GAA matches, you'll have people describing their team's psychotic behaviour as either "out of character" or "completely justified", whilst judging the opposing team's tackling / physical play as GBH, worthy of a prison sentence, pure thuggery.

And you just condone it again with your next post

3's a charm...

[thewobbler]

Acceptance of a situation doesn't mean I condone it. It really doesn't.

I don't have to be 100% with you not be against you. Come on.

[Armagh18]

You condoning the extremists then?

Absolutely not.

But the reason for what you fellas describe as "far right" unrest in places like Ireland has got a lot more to do with the increasing presence of immigrants, and much less to do with influencers, than you'll ever be prepared to admit.

Human beings are tribal. We are instinctively a lot more accommodating when one of our own steps out of line, than we are when it's one of the "others". Which is why all across Ireland this weekend, at club GAA matches, you'll have people describing their team's psychotic behaviour as either "out of character" or "completely justified", whilst judging the opposing team's tackling / physical play as GBH, worthy of a prison sentence, pure thuggery.


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Ballyholland are playing Kilcoo on Friday evening. Imagine there was a social experiment that nobody in the crowd was permitted to speak at the match, but all they could do is comment on a social media thread where both sets of supporters contributed. Do you know what this would end up with? It would be vile, absolutely vile. And it wouldn't be because of Russians or bots.

Thats a very good point. But since it's Kilcoo I'm sure whats said will be vile anyway

[Banks of the Bann]

You condoning the extremists then?

Absolutely not.

But the reason for what you fellas describe as "far right" unrest in places like Ireland has got a lot more to do with the increasing presence of immigrants, and much less to do with influencers, than you'll ever be prepared to admit.

Human beings are tribal. We are instinctively a lot more accommodating when one of our own steps out of line, than we are when it's one of the "others". Which is why all across Ireland this weekend, at club GAA matches, you'll have people describing their team's psychotic behaviour as either "out of character" or "completely justified", whilst judging the opposing team's tackling / physical play as GBH, worthy of a prison sentence, pure thuggery.


** edit

Ballyholland are playing Kilcoo on Friday evening. Imagine there was a social experiment that nobody in the crowd was permitted to speak at the match, but all they could do is comment on a social media thread where both sets of supporters contributed. Do you know what this would end up with? It would be vile, absolutely vile. And it wouldn't be because of Russians or bots.

And yet on the immigration debate, the Russian bots are there online for all to see, stirring the pot.

BTW, good to know you're a lot more accommodating when one of 'our own' rapes and/or murders a young girl. The old tribalism again eh?

[thewobbler]

You condoning the extremists then?

Absolutely not.

But the reason for what you fellas describe as "far right" unrest in places like Ireland has got a lot more to do with the increasing presence of immigrants, and much less to do with influencers, than you'll ever be prepared to admit.

Human beings are tribal. We are instinctively a lot more accommodating when one of our own steps out of line, than we are when it's one of the "others". Which is why all across Ireland this weekend, at club GAA matches, you'll have people describing their team's psychotic behaviour as either "out of character" or "completely justified", whilst judging the opposing team's tackling / physical play as GBH, worthy of a prison sentence, pure thuggery.


** edit

Ballyholland are playing Kilcoo on Friday evening. Imagine there was a social experiment that nobody in the crowd was permitted to speak at the match, but all they could do is comment on a social media thread where both sets of supporters contributed. Do you know what this would end up with? It would be vile, absolutely vile. And it wouldn't be because of Russians or bots.

And yet on the immigration debate, the Russian bots are there online for all to see, stirring the pot.

BTW, good to know you're a lot more accommodating when one of 'our own' rapes and/or murders a young girl. The old tribalism again eh?

And there we go again. It's like a form of McCarthyism with you folks. Don't you dare consider us. Don't you dare probe our thoughts. Either get 100% on board with us or you are a witch.

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I'm not telling you that tribalism is right, or just, or better.

But i'm telling you it is real. Very real. And every single person on this earth is guilty of it to some level.

Even you.

Even you.

[johnnycool]

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/canon-patrick-mcentee-found-guilty-of-sex-abuse-of-school-pupils-T2S2MXQQTJFU3N22O5TN4UDY7Q/

Ok, when are we going to burn down all the parochial houses around the country?

[Louther]

You condoning the extremists then?

Absolutely not.

But the reason for what you fellas describe as "far right" unrest in places like Ireland has got a lot more to do with the increasing presence of immigrants, and much less to do with influencers, than you'll ever be prepared to admit.

Human beings are tribal. We are instinctively a lot more accommodating when one of our own steps out of line, than we are when it's one of the "others". Which is why all across Ireland this weekend, at club GAA matches, you'll have people describing their team's psychotic behaviour as either "out of character" or "completely justified", whilst judging the opposing team's tackling / physical play as GBH, worthy of a prison sentence, pure thuggery.


** edit

Ballyholland are playing Kilcoo on Friday evening. Imagine there was a social experiment that nobody in the crowd was permitted to speak at the match, but all they could do is comment on a social media thread where both sets of supporters contributed. Do you know what this would end up with? It would be vile, absolutely vile. And it wouldn't be because of Russians or bots.

Na. That's a load of enabling nonsense and exactly what the "influencers" online are looking to create.

They are using the immigration issue to widen the problem, so that it's not just an immigration issue, it's a skin colour problem.  Perfect example is Ballymena, a working man and his family from Philippines had his car and house burned out cause the mob decided to cause his skin didn't fit in with theirs.

I know staff who work in the Lourdes Hospital in Drogheda who are all been abused on wards and on the streets, cause of their skin colour. Their kids in school are getting it too and them here years.

Immigration is the flame they using to ignite their own twisted hatred and bitterness towards others. I know some who have completely flipped and it's not about immigration, it's blaming others for their own sad existence and lack of drive and motivation to make anything of their lives. They've never left their own eircode bar a odd trip to Spain to take in the culture of Irish Bars in their Celtic and United/Liverpool/Arsenal tops to cheer on likes of Saka, Salah and Co which is terrible ironic as they'd not let them move in beside them.

It's dangerous, anonymous Facebook accounts posting rumour and scaring people, telling them they should be afraid, using the emotive threats to children and woman to cause tension and division. They failed at the local elections and this seemed to only drive them onto new extremes.

Is immigration perfect? No, not at all, but what's happening is beyond that and I struggle to see how people can't see it's been used way out of proportion.