Antrim Football Thread

[Flanker]

On another note

I was at the Cargin and Ulster select   game yesterday in Toome , Jesus that silly ginger fella on the line may as well of been playing wing back for them he was never off the field screaming at Kevin Parke , felt bad for him however thought he done well yesterday let it go well.

Cargin seemed to be very light in men in fairness brides are too , Cargin struggled from their kickouts as Brides squeezed hard and in fairness worked well for them was well executed and they seem to be structured well.

After taking a defeat to ballymena it makes you wonder is the gap starting to close on Cargin ??

Is it time for a marked out Technical Area for managers and backroom staff at matches?   was at a couple of games over the weekend in 2 different codes and the abuse the referees took from all corners of the pitch where club coaches had spread out was concerning.   a good bit of coaches crossing paths in front of dug outs and mouthing at each other was common.     

Perhaps MR2 and the other refs don't pay heed to it but there doesnt seem to be any let up

Referee's have the means to move the ball forward 50 meters when getting abuse from the sideline

To be fair I've zero tolerance to it, if a manager or other team official wants to be carded and the ball moved 50 meters, then that's on him..

I think, and its hard to know as you are only doing the games you ref, but I feel that some referee's may take more abuse than others or possibly some coaches feel that they can give out more to some referee's.

Come Championship its a team of officials that will be getting it in the neck, but I'd be very wary that the linesman doesn't draw the attention to the ref and the ball moved forward.   

is it not

Misconduct by a Team Official(s) that warrants a Yellow or Red Card results in a free kick on the offending team's 13m line.

[Take the Mark]

Thats correct Flanker, 50m for players, 13m free for abuse from the bench/sideline.

[YoungSaff]

Who are the top refs in the county ? is there a ranking as to who gets big games or what way does it work?

[InnocentByStander]

Who are the top refs in the county ? is there a ranking as to who gets big games or what way does it work?

Theres a ranking system.

Whoever takes Toland on the most Coffee dates throughout the season.
Minimum of 10 or he does the final himself.

If it happens 2 or more take him on the same amount of dates it will then go to the Ref who spent most money buying coffees for him.

If that ref happens to be from a club in the final it will go to the ref who took Brendan on the 2nd most dates.

And so its an easy system to follow.

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With a missed penalty and some 2 pointers for the winners not sure Cargin would be too concerned.

The match report had Tomas not starting, is that right? Cargin are a total different animal with him playing (perhaps to the point of reliance).

A number of our (good) dual ref have a tendency to allow hurling rucks to develop on the football field, as the man said find the soft free and move on.

Pg1 score line probably the most notable of the weekend , if not the result.

If St Pauls can beat Agahgallon in 2 weeks  at home probably looking at Tir na nog going down in a playoff (regardless of how poor rossa have been).

St Paul's have every chance of beating Aghagallon who seem to be getting worse..only scored 1-3 yesterday,looks like they'll be in the relegation mix if it's bottom 4 playoff

[paddyjohn]

I think it's unfair to name refs on here. I've no huge love for some of them but they are doing a tough job.

[Goodray]

With a missed penalty and some 2 pointers for the winners not sure Cargin would be too concerned.

The match report had Tomas not starting, is that right? Cargin are a total different animal with him playing (perhaps to the point of reliance).

A number of our (good) dual ref have a tendency to allow hurling rucks to develop on the football field, as the man said find the soft free and move on.

Pg1 score line probably the most notable of the weekend , if not the result.

If St Pauls can beat Agahgallon in 2 weeks  at home probably looking at Tir na nog going down in a playoff (regardless of how poor rossa have been).

St Paul's have every chance of beating Aghagallon who seem to be getting worse..only scored 1-3 yesterday,looks like they'll be in the relegation mix if it's bottom 4 playoff

Aghagallon look a beaten docket even with the so called county men

[YoungSaff]

Surely there is no consideration of reappointing McEntee?

We should be starting the hunt now for our new man

[paddyjohn]

I'm heading to Moneyglass & Toome to see if I can talk Snoopy & Screamer to comeback again.

[YoungSaff]

I'm heading to Moneyglass & Toome to see if I can talk Snoopy & Screamer to comeback again.

Two of the best !

 Is Richie Leahy in through Moneyglass now ? I seen pictured taking udnerage girls games , must have daughters playing there now!

[bannside]

The fact that no one at all is commenting on the county teams exit from the Tailteean Cup on Sunday is interesting. There's an old saying that the only thing worse than everyone talking about you is that no one is talking about you. In this case the silence is deafening.

I imagine there was quite a few who expected Andy to bring out his farewell speech in the dressing room after the game, but....that didn't happen.

I promised to be consistent in calling it when I feel a managers time is up, and in my opinion that time is now upon us.

That's despite being assured the dressing room is still very much intact, and after 3 years that in itself is a credit.

I base my opinion on several factors, but the main one is that if I'm being honest, I never ever felt we had a fair to reasonable chance of going places in this year's Tailteean...never mind championship. That needs to go down as significant because in previous years I thought we had a punchers chance.

The second factor is the support for the team has dwindled way down to it's lowest level for years. Outside of family and friends and half time underage matches, the ground would be empty.

I think Andy should weigh this up and make the right call. Year three was difficult, why would year 4 be any better?

On a personal note I thought Andy and Tom brought something different to the table, and put in a huge shift, often against the backdrop of a horrendous injury list. So I don't think they need to slam the door on the way out, just walk out with dignity, knowing you gave it your all and you have made plenty of friends in the process.

Really this is between Andys conscience that he can turn it around with another year, and the county board (or County Committee) who have a hard call to make.

Taking all personalities out of the equation, what is the best for Antrim football. That's the only thing that matters!

[imtommygunn]

BS I pretty much agree with your entire post.

The injury list thing I wonder about - is it the training or is it that our guys haven't been exposed to that kind of training before I don't know.

[BigGreenField]

BS I pretty much agree with your entire post.

The injury list thing I wonder about - is it the training or is it that our guys haven't been exposed to that kind of training before I don't know.

Regardless of which one it needs looked at, I think it's 8 serious injuries sustained in training over 3 years.

My only question on changing the manager is can someone better be got?

The policy of the wider squad not being permitted to play club games for sustained periods of time when they are not really in contention for match day selection also needs assessed, total nonsense.

Clubs also need to look in the mirror at league structures, club level coaching etc.

On the ref's thing, there is a stat that premier league soccer ref's make 245 decisions a game (play on, no foul, free, sideline etc)

Bearing in mind soccer is a significantly less complicated and less physical sport than gaelic football (not minding the pitch size) I'd imagine the number of decisions a Gaa ref has to take (consciously or not) is a multiple of that.

[YoungSaff]

BS I pretty much agree with your entire post.

The injury list thing I wonder about - is it the training or is it that our guys haven't been exposed to that kind of training before I don't know.

Regardless of which one it needs looked at, I think it's 8 serious injuries sustained in training over 3 years.

My only question on changing the manager is can someone better be got?

The policy of the wider squad not being permitted to play club games for sustained periods of time when they are not really in contention for match day selection also needs assessed, total nonsense.

Clubs also need to look in the mirror at league structures, club level coaching etc.

On the ref's thing, there is a stat that premier league soccer ref's make 245 decisions a game (play on, no foul, free, sideline etc)

Bearing in mind soccer is a significantly less complicated and less physical sport than gaelic football (not minding the pitch size) I'd imagine the number of decisions a Gaa ref has to take (consciously or not) is a multiple of that.

Nail on the head with bold , never understood this!

[Take the Mark]

BS I pretty much agree with your entire post.

The injury list thing I wonder about - is it the training or is it that our guys haven't been exposed to that kind of training before I don't know.

What about a physio? Perhaps start there?