Things that make you go What the F**k?

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Wildweasel74

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There a girl around where I live, got prescription done from Doctor for some sort of weight lose drug, dropped 4 stone in less than 6-9 months. Now she was heavy.

Saffrongael

Been following this Richard Satchwell case.

So the Gardai searched the house when she went "missing" in 2017 but there was then a gap of 6 years until they did a more extensive search in 2023 (and found her body in the house)

What was happening in the intervening 6 years ? I assume Satchwell thought he got away with it
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

Armagh18

Quote from: Mourne Red on May 12, 2025, 07:01:46 PMProblem with Ozempic and Mounjaro (not sure if that's the spelling) is when you are on it long term it reduces your bone density so you get frail, look at some celebs can barely walk or look horrible from being on it long term.

You'd need to be doing a cycle like if you're taking Steroids/Tern where you go on it for a certain length of time then off it for a period and repeat. For it to be done safely in my opinion by the average joe


Always a catch with these things that seem to good to be true.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 12, 2025, 09:42:54 PMThere a girl around where I live, got prescription done ffom Doctor for some sort of weight lose drug, dropped 4 stone in less than 6-9 months. Now she was heavy.
A lot of people don't like them as it seems like a lazy person's way of avoiding diet and exercise. The obesity crisis isn't going away though, so if these drugs keep people out of hospital from obesity related conditions the jabs will have been a great investment.

Armagh18

Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 12, 2025, 10:14:33 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 12, 2025, 09:42:54 PMThere a girl around where I live, got prescription done ffom Doctor for some sort of weight lose drug, dropped 4 stone in less than 6-9 months. Now she was heavy.
A lot of people don't like them as it seems like a lazy person's way of avoiding diet and exercise. The obesity crisis isn't going away though, so if these drugs keep people out of hospital from obesity related conditions the jabs will have been a great investment.
Til they're in the hospital with the side effects lol.

There's no substitute for eating less and moving more.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Armagh18 on May 12, 2025, 10:34:11 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 12, 2025, 10:14:33 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 12, 2025, 09:42:54 PMThere a girl around where I live, got prescription done ffom Doctor for some sort of weight lose drug, dropped 4 stone in less than 6-9 months. Now she was heavy.
A lot of people don't like them as it seems like a lazy person's way of avoiding diet and exercise. The obesity crisis isn't going away though, so if these drugs keep people out of hospital from obesity related conditions the jabs will have been a great investment.
Til they're in the hospital with the side effects lol.

There's no substitute for eating less and moving more.
Given the numbers of obese people it's clear it isn't working as it requires effort.

Armagh18

Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 12, 2025, 10:46:42 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 12, 2025, 10:34:11 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 12, 2025, 10:14:33 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 12, 2025, 09:42:54 PMThere a girl around where I live, got prescription done ffom Doctor for some sort of weight lose drug, dropped 4 stone in less than 6-9 months. Now she was heavy.
A lot of people don't like them as it seems like a lazy person's way of avoiding diet and exercise. The obesity crisis isn't going away though, so if these drugs keep people out of hospital from obesity related conditions the jabs will have been a great investment.
Til they're in the hospital with the side effects lol.

There's no substitute for eating less and moving more.
Given the numbers of obese people it's clear it isn't working as it requires effort.
Obese and smokers should be bottom of the list for NHS care.


Windmill abu

Quote from: Armagh18 on May 12, 2025, 10:51:46 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 12, 2025, 10:46:42 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 12, 2025, 10:34:11 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 12, 2025, 10:14:33 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 12, 2025, 09:42:54 PMThere a girl around where I live, got prescription done ffom Doctor for some sort of weight lose drug, dropped 4 stone in less than 6-9 months. Now she was heavy.
A lot of people don't like them as it seems like a lazy person's way of avoiding diet and exercise. The obesity crisis isn't going away though, so if these drugs keep people out of hospital from obesity related conditions the jabs will have been a great investment.
Til they're in the hospital with the side effects lol.

There's no substitute for eating less and moving more.
Given the numbers of obese people it's clear it isn't working as it requires effort.
Obese and smokers should be bottom of the list for NHS care.



How about drinkers or fast drivers. You could maybe include people who like bacon or anyone who does anything remotely dangerous or that could affect them in later life.
Never underestimate the power of complaining

tyrone08

Quote from: Windmill abu on May 12, 2025, 11:45:37 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 12, 2025, 10:51:46 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 12, 2025, 10:46:42 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 12, 2025, 10:34:11 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 12, 2025, 10:14:33 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 12, 2025, 09:42:54 PMThere a girl around where I live, got prescription done ffom Doctor for some sort of weight lose drug, dropped 4 stone in less than 6-9 months. Now she was heavy.
A lot of people don't like them as it seems like a lazy person's way of avoiding diet and exercise. The obesity crisis isn't going away though, so if these drugs keep people out of hospital from obesity related conditions the jabs will have been a great investment.
Til they're in the hospital with the side effects lol.

There's no substitute for eating less and moving more.
Given the numbers of obese people it's clear it isn't working as it requires effort.
Obese and smokers should be bottom of the list for NHS care.



How about drinkers or fast drivers. You could maybe include people who like bacon or anyone who does anything remotely dangerous or that could affect them in later life.

As usual people take arguments to the extreme. There is a direct link between obesity and smoking causing significant health issues later in life.

Drinking and bacon in moderation will be fine. Below are the most common issues facing NHS-

"In the UK, the most common diseases are musculoskeletal problems, mental health conditions, cardiovascular issues, respiratory conditions, and diabetes. Specifically, the top five causes of death include dementia, heart disease, chronic lower respiratory diseases, stroke, and lung cancer. In terms of morbidity (illness), depression and anxiety are major sources of illness"

Cut out obesity and smoking will stop nearly all these issues.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: tyrone08 on May 13, 2025, 08:49:33 AM
Quote from: Windmill abu on May 12, 2025, 11:45:37 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 12, 2025, 10:51:46 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 12, 2025, 10:46:42 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 12, 2025, 10:34:11 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 12, 2025, 10:14:33 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 12, 2025, 09:42:54 PMThere a girl around where I live, got prescription done ffom Doctor for some sort of weight lose drug, dropped 4 stone in less than 6-9 months. Now she was heavy.
A lot of people don't like them as it seems like a lazy person's way of avoiding diet and exercise. The obesity crisis isn't going away though, so if these drugs keep people out of hospital from obesity related conditions the jabs will have been a great investment.
Til they're in the hospital with the side effects lol.

There's no substitute for eating less and moving more.
Given the numbers of obese people it's clear it isn't working as it requires effort.
Obese and smokers should be bottom of the list for NHS care.



How about drinkers or fast drivers. You could maybe include people who like bacon or anyone who does anything remotely dangerous or that could affect them in later life.

As usual people take arguments to the extreme. There is a direct link between obesity and smoking causing significant health issues later in life.

Drinking and bacon in moderation will be fine. Below are the most common issues facing NHS-

"In the UK, the most common diseases are musculoskeletal problems, mental health conditions, cardiovascular issues, respiratory conditions, and diabetes. Specifically, the top five causes of death include dementia, heart disease, chronic lower respiratory diseases, stroke, and lung cancer. In terms of morbidity (illness), depression and anxiety are major sources of illness"

Cut out obesity and smoking will stop nearly all these issues.

You have not highlighted mental health, which in a lot of cases is brought about by the illness like obesity which drives depressions and anxiety in social settings..

Kids with neurodiversity growing up will struggle with foods and parents will feed them anything just so they are eating, creating bad habits, I know this is a small minority but it creates patterns and continues through the years with more kids being exposed to poor eating habits..

It's not as cut and dried as parents not being responsible, great show on BBC last night about ADHD, eating disorders are also liked to it.. I'd say most parents looking back at their kids growing up will have struggled with one or two kids with their relationship with foods, be it taste, textures and type.. 

Only getting worse, hopefully these things work as the hospitals are flat out with the other problems relating to it
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

gallsman

The Australian murderous beef wellington trial.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: gallsman on May 13, 2025, 09:05:03 AMThe Australian murderous beef wellington trial.

I keep threatening to make a beef Wellington but I think that dish is off the plate.. Like who'll want to try that now?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

tyrone08

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2025, 09:04:20 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on May 13, 2025, 08:49:33 AM
Quote from: Windmill abu on May 12, 2025, 11:45:37 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 12, 2025, 10:51:46 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 12, 2025, 10:46:42 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 12, 2025, 10:34:11 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 12, 2025, 10:14:33 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 12, 2025, 09:42:54 PMThere a girl around where I live, got prescription done ffom Doctor for some sort of weight lose drug, dropped 4 stone in less than 6-9 months. Now she was heavy.
A lot of people don't like them as it seems like a lazy person's way of avoiding diet and exercise. The obesity crisis isn't going away though, so if these drugs keep people out of hospital from obesity related conditions the jabs will have been a great investment.
Til they're in the hospital with the side effects lol.

There's no substitute for eating less and moving more.
Given the numbers of obese people it's clear it isn't working as it requires effort.
Obese and smokers should be bottom of the list for NHS care.



How about drinkers or fast drivers. You could maybe include people who like bacon or anyone who does anything remotely dangerous or that could affect them in later life.

As usual people take arguments to the extreme. There is a direct link between obesity and smoking causing significant health issues later in life.

Drinking and bacon in moderation will be fine. Below are the most common issues facing NHS-

"In the UK, the most common diseases are musculoskeletal problems, mental health conditions, cardiovascular issues, respiratory conditions, and diabetes. Specifically, the top five causes of death include dementia, heart disease, chronic lower respiratory diseases, stroke, and lung cancer. In terms of morbidity (illness), depression and anxiety are major sources of illness"

Cut out obesity and smoking will stop nearly all these issues.

You have not highlighted mental health, which in a lot of cases is brought about by the illness like obesity which drives depressions and anxiety in social settings..

Kids with neurodiversity growing up will struggle with foods and parents will feed them anything just so they are eating, creating bad habits, I know this is a small minority but it creates patterns and continues through the years with more kids being exposed to poor eating habits..

It's not as cut and dried as parents not being responsible, great show on BBC last night about ADHD, eating disorders are also liked to it.. I'd say most parents looking back at their kids growing up will have struggled with one or two kids with their relationship with foods, be it taste, textures and type.. 

Only getting worse, hopefully these things work as the hospitals are flat out with the other problems relating to it

You cant be blaming ADHD for causing obesity. I help out at a number of age groups in football, the amount of kids overweight from a very young age is scary, then you look at the parents and they are exactly the same. Unless there is a generational link for ADHD you cant say it cause obsiety.

I know a number of kids with ADHD who have thin healthy parents and guess what the kids are thin and healthy as well.

A lot of it is simply down to the parents and choices they give their kids. There is no great mystery. Rise of fast food and services such as just eat etc has a lot to do with it.

Look at countries such as Italy who eat more than we do but they are far healthier. Its down to staying activity and keeping treats to a weekly activity instead of daily reward.

Armagh18

Drive through any village. Very rarely will you see children out playing/running about/climbing trees etc. They're either sitting in the house clued to a screen or walking around glued to one. Thats a huge factor.

Ethan Tremblay

Quote from: tyrone08 on May 13, 2025, 09:28:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2025, 09:04:20 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on May 13, 2025, 08:49:33 AM
Quote from: Windmill abu on May 12, 2025, 11:45:37 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 12, 2025, 10:51:46 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 12, 2025, 10:46:42 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 12, 2025, 10:34:11 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 12, 2025, 10:14:33 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 12, 2025, 09:42:54 PMThere a girl around where I live, got prescription done ffom Doctor for some sort of weight lose drug, dropped 4 stone in less than 6-9 months. Now she was heavy.
A lot of people don't like them as it seems like a lazy person's way of avoiding diet and exercise. The obesity crisis isn't going away though, so if these drugs keep people out of hospital from obesity related conditions the jabs will have been a great investment.
Til they're in the hospital with the side effects lol.

There's no substitute for eating less and moving more.
Given the numbers of obese people it's clear it isn't working as it requires effort.
Obese and smokers should be bottom of the list for NHS care.



How about drinkers or fast drivers. You could maybe include people who like bacon or anyone who does anything remotely dangerous or that could affect them in later life.

As usual people take arguments to the extreme. There is a direct link between obesity and smoking causing significant health issues later in life.

Drinking and bacon in moderation will be fine. Below are the most common issues facing NHS-

"In the UK, the most common diseases are musculoskeletal problems, mental health conditions, cardiovascular issues, respiratory conditions, and diabetes. Specifically, the top five causes of death include dementia, heart disease, chronic lower respiratory diseases, stroke, and lung cancer. In terms of morbidity (illness), depression and anxiety are major sources of illness"

Cut out obesity and smoking will stop nearly all these issues.

You have not highlighted mental health, which in a lot of cases is brought about by the illness like obesity which drives depressions and anxiety in social settings..

Kids with neurodiversity growing up will struggle with foods and parents will feed them anything just so they are eating, creating bad habits, I know this is a small minority but it creates patterns and continues through the years with more kids being exposed to poor eating habits..

It's not as cut and dried as parents not being responsible, great show on BBC last night about ADHD, eating disorders are also liked to it.. I'd say most parents looking back at their kids growing up will have struggled with one or two kids with their relationship with foods, be it taste, textures and type.. 

Only getting worse, hopefully these things work as the hospitals are flat out with the other problems relating to it

You cant be blaming ADHD for causing obesity. I help out at a number of age groups in football, the amount of kids overweight from a very young age is scary, then you look at the parents and they are exactly the same. Unless there is a generational link for ADHD you cant say it cause obsiety.

I know a number of kids with ADHD who have thin healthy parents and guess what the kids are thin and healthy as well.

A lot of it is simply down to the parents and choices they give their kids. There is no great mystery. Rise of fast food and services such as just eat etc has a lot to do with it.

Look at countries such as Italy who eat more than we do but they are far healthier. Its down to staying activity and keeping treats to a weekly activity instead of daily reward.

I agree with that.  I have friends with kids and there are stark contrasts to them.  One of them is usual outdoors, on the bikes or walking around country parks.  His kids do get rubbish in moderation, but I see them eating well mostly.  They are the picture of health. 

The other friend has his kids on the tablets, would happily let them eat a kfc for lunch, and facilitates them sitting on the asses by doing nothing himself.  At the age of 6 and 8, they look terrible.  One is obese. 

Not my place to tell someone how to raise their children, but it boggles my mind how he cannot see the damage he is causing his kids health already. 


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