Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

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5times5times

Rule for allowing murphy to stretch and pause the game???

thewobbler

Quote from: 5times5times on May 10, 2025, 09:31:20 PMRule for allowing murphy to stretch and pause the game???
If the clock is stopped then what odds?

What advantage is anyone gaining?

None.


GTP

If the clock is stopped to allow one player to recover, but not others, the team with the injured player benefits by not having to play 14 v 15.
If the ref did stop the game for cramp as opposed to whatever else was going on he gave Donegal an advantage of having a ball winner up and fit for the kickout.

thewobbler

Quote from: GTP on May 11, 2025, 09:54:43 AMIf the clock is stopped to allow one player to recover, but not others, the team with the injured player benefits by not having to play 14 v 15.
If the ref did stop the game for cramp as opposed to whatever else was going on he gave Donegal an advantage of having a ball winner up and fit for the kickout.

Or maybe he gave all 30 players an opportunity to stretch and help with cramp prevention?

Honest to God, people who whinge about anything and everything. Just shut up and enjoy the sport.


GTP

You asked "What advantage is anyone gaining?". We don't know why the referee stopped the game but IF he did so to allow an injured player to recover when he should not have in accordance with the rules he would give that team an advantage.
Apologies for answering your question and I will shut up as requested.
I will have to assume your post isn't a whinge about anything and everything or you'd be a bit of a hypocrite.

AustinPowers

Teams running  down the clock until the hooter  is a hateful  bollox of a thing. Louth and Donegal did it for 4-5 minutes.

They should make  the rule where the ball should go over the end  line to finish the game . At least then   there'd be none of this  piggy in the middle sh*te and teams would  have to attack , to kick a score or put it wide

David McKeown

Quote from: AustinPowers on May 11, 2025, 06:17:23 PMTeams running  down the clock until the hooter  is a hateful  bollox of a thing. Louth and Donegal did it for 4-5 minutes.

They should make  the rule where the ball should go over the end  line to finish the game . At least then   there'd be none of this  piggy in the middle sh*te and teams would  have to attack , to kick a score or put it wide

Not even sure that would work because you could do the same thing but then kick it out over the end line. Unfortunately this is supposedly more exciting than how things used to be.
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AustinPowers

Quote from: David McKeown on May 11, 2025, 07:13:25 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 11, 2025, 06:17:23 PMTeams running  down the clock until the hooter  is a hateful  bollox of a thing. Louth and Donegal did it for 4-5 minutes.

They should make  the rule where the ball should go over the end  line to finish the game . At least then   there'd be none of this  piggy in the middle sh*te and teams would  have to attack , to kick a score or put it wide

Not even sure that would work because you could do the same thing but then kick it out over the end line. Unfortunately this is supposedly more exciting than how things used to be.

Yes but the team running down the clock would have to  enter the opponents half,  to get that kick over the end line after the hooter.

It wouldn't prevent  the 3-4 minutes of tootling about with the ball , but it would at least give it a bit of jeopardy, as the other team could turn them over , and counterattack.

Estimator

Quote from: AustinPowers on May 11, 2025, 07:22:52 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on May 11, 2025, 07:13:25 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 11, 2025, 06:17:23 PMTeams running  down the clock until the hooter  is a hateful  bollox of a thing. Louth and Donegal did it for 4-5 minutes.

They should make  the rule where the ball should go over the end  line to finish the game . At least then  there'd be none of this  piggy in the middle sh*te and teams would  have to attack , to kick a score or put it wide

Not even sure that would work because you could do the same thing but then kick it out over the end line. Unfortunately this is supposedly more exciting than how things used to be.

Yes but the team running down the clock would have to  enter the opponents half,  to get that kick over the end line after the hooter.

It wouldn't prevent  the 3-4 minutes of tootling about with the ball , but it would at least give it a bit of jeopardy, as the other team could turn them over , and counterattack.

Team A can only run down the clock if Team B allows it to happen. There is no jeopardy if there is little to no pressure on the ball carrier.

Towards the end of extra time yesterday. Cawley threw the ball in and the clock restarted at 17.57, outside of the foul from Rafferty how many Armagh men got close to a putting in a tackle or hand on a Donegal man.  It was only when the game entered the last 30secs (after the free kick)that Armagh started really harassing and going after it.
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David McKeown

Quote from: Estimator on May 11, 2025, 07:57:54 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 11, 2025, 07:22:52 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on May 11, 2025, 07:13:25 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 11, 2025, 06:17:23 PMTeams running  down the clock until the hooter  is a hateful  bollox of a thing. Louth and Donegal did it for 4-5 minutes.

They should make  the rule where the ball should go over the end  line to finish the game . At least then  there'd be none of this  piggy in the middle sh*te and teams would  have to attack , to kick a score or put it wide

Not even sure that would work because you could do the same thing but then kick it out over the end line. Unfortunately this is supposedly more exciting than how things used to be.

Yes but the team running down the clock would have to  enter the opponents half,  to get that kick over the end line after the hooter.

It wouldn't prevent  the 3-4 minutes of tootling about with the ball , but it would at least give it a bit of jeopardy, as the other team could turn them over , and counterattack.

Team A can only run down the clock if Team B allows it to happen. There is no jeopardy if there is little to no pressure on the ball carrier.

Towards the end of extra time yesterday. Cawley threw the ball in and the clock restarted at 17.57, outside of the foul from Rafferty how many Armagh men got close to a putting in a tackle or hand on a Donegal man.  It was only when the game entered the last 30secs (after the free kick)that Armagh started really harassing and going after it.

Yes but the rules allow for it and largely encourage it I feel.  Its difficult to press when the rules dictate how many can be in a half and teams can use the half way line to their advantage. 
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Milltown Row2

Teams always could run down the clock by keeping possession, our seniors did it for years, they were controlled and confident on the ball

Now knowing what's exactly left doesn't really change things for me
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Truthsayer

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Lazer

Quote from: Estimator on May 11, 2025, 07:57:54 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 11, 2025, 07:22:52 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on May 11, 2025, 07:13:25 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 11, 2025, 06:17:23 PMTeams running  down the clock until the hooter  is a hateful  bollox of a thing. Louth and Donegal did it for 4-5 minutes.

They should make  the rule where the ball should go over the end  line to finish the game . At least then  there'd be none of this  piggy in the middle sh*te and teams would  have to attack , to kick a score or put it wide

Not even sure that would work because you could do the same thing but then kick it out over the end line. Unfortunately this is supposedly more exciting than how things used to be.

Yes but the team running down the clock would have to  enter the opponents half,  to get that kick over the end line after the hooter.

It wouldn't prevent  the 3-4 minutes of tootling about with the ball , but it would at least give it a bit of jeopardy, as the other team could turn them over , and counterattack.

Team A can only run down the clock if Team B allows it to happen. There is no jeopardy if there is little to no pressure on the ball carrier.

Towards the end of extra time yesterday. Cawley threw the ball in and the clock restarted at 17.57, outside of the foul from Rafferty how many Armagh men got close to a putting in a tackle or hand on a Donegal man.  It was only when the game entered the last 30secs (after the free kick)that Armagh started really harassing and going after it.

I think the game should end when the hooter goes (or if the ball is in motion - as soon as it stops - so if a the ball has been kicked for a point and but hasn't crossed the bar before the hooter..it still counts).
Only exceptions for frees and penalties (so no last minute cynical fouling)
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ONeill

Silly argument about keeping the ball and running down the clock being a bad thing.

Be brave and go for them. Foul them. Make them panic.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

trueblue1234

And don't wait until we're in hooter time to step up in the tackle. Donegal gave the ball away twice in the last few minutes when Armagh did decide to step up on them and pressure them. But prob wasted a minute or two before that where they stood off.
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