Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[SpeculativeEffort]

Almost all field games allow teams to play in different ways. Long, short or a mix of both.

I think short and long kickouts should be allowed. Decision making is part of the game. Teams could then decide to press or not to press.

At the moment forwards have no decision to make. Just head back out and get onto breaks while hopefully pulling defense out of position.

Defenders 2,3,4 and 6 are virtually obsolete on kickouts now.

If they stay inside arc they are out of play completely, cannot receive the ball, miles away from their man and are allowing teammates further out the field to be double marked.

If they follow out the field, they have v little chance of getting ball (in a v high risk situation)and the team has a ludicrous defensive shape (none at all).

The new game is so far skewed in favour of forwards and the recent scorelines back this up.

Its Frankenstein Football on EPO.

[Rossfan]

If you want a game with few scores soccer is the game for you.

[thewobbler]

Almost all field games allow teams to play in different ways. Long, short or a mix of both.

I think short and long kickouts should be allowed. Decision making is part of the game. Teams could then decide to press or not to press.

At the moment forwards have no decision to make. Just head back out and get onto breaks while hopefully pulling defense out of position.

Defenders 2,3,4 and 6 are virtually obsolete on kickouts now.

If they stay inside arc they are out of play completely, cannot receive the ball, miles away from their man and are allowing teammates further out the field to be double marked.

If they follow out the field, they have v little chance of getting ball (in a v high risk situation)and the team has a ludicrous defensive shape (none at all).

The new game is so far skewed in favour of forwards and the recent scorelines back this up.

Its Frankenstein Football on EPO.

The single, underlying and most emphatic reason why football is currently skewed in favour of forwards is because for the past decade forwards have had no choice but to become sharper, smarter, braver, stronger  more clinical, all because the rules were so heavily skewed against them.

If they're having fun now it's because they're reaping what they've been sowing.

It's now time for defenders to do likewise. Imagine marking a man and competing for the ball in front and with every last sinew? Surely it can't be that hard to imagine.

[thewobbler]

Also, why a fullback line should be involved in kickouts is just something i can't grasp.

They're meant to be defenders ffs. Their job is to nullify attackers, not be auxiliary midfielders.

[onefineday]

Imo allowing the option of the short kickout improves the game in two main ways:

Firstly, it releases some of the congestion around the middle and increases the potential for a clean, high catch. (That might allow for a relaxation of the draconian rules around touching someone who makes that catch too).
Secondly, it brings a tactical decision into play, press or concede, only now, with the GK overlap option gone, the reward for pressing should be magnified and equally, the 3 up rule means that the risk and potential consequences of a press going wrong is hugely increased too.

Another big benefit is the simple fact that variation is more interesting for the spectator. Yes, we might have grown up on a diet of long kickouts, but having seen the dynamics that short options introduce, I would quite like to have the option retained.

[Rossfan]

Short kick out followed by slow crab like handpassing bored spectators to sleep leading to the FRC.......

[SpeculativeEffort]

Be very interesting when inter County forwards come back to play club football. Basically professionals v amateurs with no real way to defend except man on man, no way to slow the beating either.

Be like a professional high ranked boxer hammering a journey man amateur but the new rules don't allow you to put up your gloves to protect yourself. Just take your pummelling. It's what the people want (apparently).

[Milltown Row2]

No, people would much prefer the cagy 0-5 to 0-4 game where teams played everyone behind he ball, they were much more interesting

[flowerpot]

Also, why a fullback line should be involved in kickouts is just something i can't grasp.

They're meant to be defenders ffs. Their job is to nullify attackers, not be auxiliary midfielders.

You really are going back in time, everyone stand in their position, should defenders not be scoring, attackers not be defending, the game has evolved there is no defined positions now, even for the keeper.  Full backs can go up field under these rules and compete for the kickout, why is there an issue with them breaking into free space taking a quick ball from the keeper and starting an attack.

[flowerpot]

Short kick out followed by slow crab like handpassing bored spectators to sleep leading to the FRC.......

It's so much more exciting to see the same hoof out the field and men bouncing of each other with the ball spilling.  The lottery of who gets the breaking ball is edge of the seat stuff.

[thebigfullforward]

If you want a game with few scores soccer is the game for you.

And if you want a game with 30+ scores then hurling or basketball is the game for you lol. It can go both ways

[thebigfullforward]

Also, why a fullback line should be involved in kickouts is just something i can't grasp.

They're meant to be defenders ffs. Their job is to nullify attackers, not be auxiliary midfielders.

Why is everyone so backwards about this. Keepers shoudln't have any skill on the ball and should be forced to kick it long, defenders shouldn't get involved on kickouts (why would you limit yourself to only kicking to certain players). Wonder what you guys thought of the likes of Ricey or Keegan

[Rossfan]

Short kick out followed by slow crab like handpassing bored spectators to sleep leading to the FRC.......

The lottery of who gets the breaking ball is edge of the seat stuff.

It actually is.

[thebigfullforward]

No, people would much prefer the cagy 0-5 to 0-4 game where teams played everyone behind he ball, they were much more interesting

I love watching teams score 2 points because a player didn't hand the ball back to the player that was deemed closest to him

[Rossfan]

He'll hand it back next time