Antrim Football Thread

Started by theskull1, November 09, 2006, 11:48:40 PM

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SaffronOak

I dont agree with handing the ball to hand after a foul.  Dropping the ball to feet would probably have been enough.

The rest I think have added massively to the entertainment side of the game.  It's become a nightmare for coaches who have lost a sense of control but the chaos of it all is super.

Hectic

Have to say the amount of mouthing off from the sideline seems reduced in the games I have watched so far.

Maybe when we get to higher stakes games there could be more but the awarding of a close in free will soon dampen that too.

And juvenile games will be interesting as I have seen some pretty extreme cases there for management trying to referee games from start to finish. 

And that the very environment where good example should be set.

SaffronSports

Quote from: Hectic on April 09, 2025, 01:15:42 PMHave to say the amount of mouthing off from the sideline seems reduced in the games I have watched so far.

Maybe when we get to higher stakes games there could be more but the awarding of a close in free will soon dampen that too.

And juvenile games will be interesting as I have seen some pretty extreme cases there for management trying to referee games from start to finish. 

And that the very environment where good example should be set.

In fairness at the match last night, one of the managers gave his own player a severe bollocking as she just wouldn't stop with the dissent.

Hectic

I suppose if it is being policed first and foremost it shouldn't be long before it becomes self policing as you explain.

Big stick from the referees for a few months and then hopefully mostly looks after itself. 

So on that basis the bigger the stick the quicker we get there.

NatSoSaff

Quote from: SaffronSports on April 09, 2025, 01:45:59 PM
Quote from: Hectic on April 09, 2025, 01:15:42 PMHave to say the amount of mouthing off from the sideline seems reduced in the games I have watched so far.

Maybe when we get to higher stakes games there could be more but the awarding of a close in free will soon dampen that too.

And juvenile games will be interesting as I have seen some pretty extreme cases there for management trying to referee games from start to finish. 

And that the very environment where good example should be set.

In fairness at the match last night, one of the managers gave his own player a severe bollocking as she just wouldn't stop with the dissent.


Women eh,  ::)

SaffronSports

Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 09, 2025, 03:25:06 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 09, 2025, 01:45:59 PM
Quote from: Hectic on April 09, 2025, 01:15:42 PMHave to say the amount of mouthing off from the sideline seems reduced in the games I have watched so far.

Maybe when we get to higher stakes games there could be more but the awarding of a close in free will soon dampen that too.

And juvenile games will be interesting as I have seen some pretty extreme cases there for management trying to referee games from start to finish. 

And that the very environment where good example should be set.

In fairness at the match last night, one of the managers gave his own player a severe bollocking as she just wouldn't stop with the dissent.


Women eh,  ::)

What's your point?

In my opinion, the dissent rule is a very good one. I've never seen a referee change their mind and all I ever hear is how difficult it is to get referees so lets help them out some. As MR2 says, do it in hurling too. Add in ladies football and camogie too. I have seen referees advance a free for dissent although not 100% the exact ruling on that.

I also asked about being sure who it was said something as when you're in the middle of the pitch it's hard to know exactly who said what. One example from last year was at the Feile in Louth one of the parents shouted something but it had the F word in it, I think it was to his own daughter and the next thing the ref was threatening to remove me and another coach from the side line. We were literally sorting out who we were bringing on for the subs that you make at feile and I didn't even hear the person cursing so I was completely confused by it all. 

AllStar15

Quote from: SaffronOak on April 09, 2025, 01:15:02 PMI dont agree with handing the ball to hand after a foul.  Dropping the ball to feet would probably have been enough.

The rest I think have added massively to the entertainment side of the game.  It's become a nightmare for coaches who have lost a sense of control but the chaos of it all is super.

I would've agreed with you before being to a few matches but it actually stops that flashpoint of a man holding on to the ball too long and another man or two trying to wrestle it off him. I'm surprised how quickly all the players have accepted it and just quickly hand the ball back. After another month or two of games it'll just be common practice and the rule will rarely be needed.

JimStynes

Seems to be plenty of tickets floating for Saturday

Milltown Row2

Quote from: JimStynes on April 09, 2025, 08:29:03 PMSeems to be plenty of tickets floating for Saturday

In Armagh  ;)
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Saffrongael

See Colm McDonald getting plenty of stick for potentially having the score wrong in the U15.5 McGrath Cup final between Maghera & CBS Omagh, down as a draw but some posters reckon Omagh won
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

paddyjohn

Quote from: Saffrongael on April 09, 2025, 11:09:24 PMSee Colm McDonald getting plenty of stick for potentially having the score wrong in the U15.5 McGrath Cup final between Maghera & CBS Omagh, down as a draw but some posters reckon Omagh won

Human error and easy done.

Take the Mark

There must be more to it than a miscalculation on the refs part. He would surely have had a linesman keeping the score as well so the odds of both being wrong would be slim. Unless an umpire signalled a point which the ref gave as wide and there was mis-communication between the 2.

Now if he hadnt another score keeper, well thats another story.

Would ye whist

I would suggest he probably didn't have a second score keeper- he, Totes and the rest of the clique are completely egotistical men who have ruined the administration of referees in Antrim and have driven out good men like Screamer, Snoop and I believe many more are on the verge of walking

Quote from: Take the Mark on April 10, 2025, 09:42:16 AMThere must be more to it than a miscalculation on the refs part. He would surely have had a linesman keeping the score as well so the odds of both being wrong would be slim. Unless an umpire signalled a point which the ref gave as wide and there was mis-communication between the 2.

Now if he hadnt another score keeper, well thats another story.

inabsentia

Can't say there was much expected last night from the U20s, bit tighter at the back but probably cost them going forward.

Whats the next stage for them? Someone mentioned a B competition?

YoungSaff

Quote from: inabsentia on April 10, 2025, 11:38:40 AMCan't say there was much expected last night from the U20s, bit tighter at the back but probably cost them going forward.

Whats the next stage for them? Someone mentioned a B competition?

I was following on twitter they seemed right in it until half time ! However I imagine fatigue and introduction of subs from Tyrone done the damage , Antrim seem to find joy from a few 2 pointers to keep themselves in it but was expected Tyrone to win with ease.

I think they either go to a B semi final or final depending on how the groups finish that's how it ran last year unless it has changed , if anyone can correct me ?