Antrim Football Thread

[SaffronOak]

Let's start by getting rid of the quick fix solutions and starting by investing in our youth for once.

Otherwise we have a long and repetitive road of mauling ahead of us

Quick fix number one, get rid of hurling. No other county in Ulster tries to compete as a dual county at a high level it's not possible to balance both and that is proven with Antrim.

The whole north of Antrim don't know what a football looks like that takes away almost half the selection pool of kids at a young age to play football.

There are no other counties in Ulster who take hurling seriously so it has to go, if you want to play hurling move down south or just accept you will be playing at a poor standard in Antrim.

Regards,
SS

Biggest pile of dung I've read on this forum and that's saying something.

[SaffronOak]

Some hammering last night for the u20s

where do the lads even go from here I was at the game myself and it was clear the difference in quality throughout , even from the lads coming out the physicality and the shape the lads were in compared to some of our lads was like night and day.

Going a man down was never going to help however a good bit of the damage was already done , I agree with the posts on here there is no benefit to young lads going out either giving a team a hammering or getting one there needs to be an A and B section and we need to realise antrim are not operating at the same level as Tyrone , Derry Donegal etc as was evident last night.

The changes will not occur overnight however I feel for the lads training away and to have their character questioned on this board is a disgrace IMO. These are the same lads training 3-4 nights a week to represent the county and they were clearly out of their depth to no fault of their own as the damage starts a lot earlier down the line.

Hopefully we can still see a good crowd out to support them on Saturday against Fermanagh and a better game against a team which is realistically more around their level.

Someone made a point to me last night I was thinking about , my friend from Ahaghallon and me were at the game he told me the u20s and minors have to share a set of jerseys yet we can justify throwing the guts of 200k between a football hurling and senior manager. The people in the upper ends need their heads looked at !!

£200k for hurling and football manager... is this accurate?

[Gaelic man]

If I can remember right Niall Jackman had two teams that competed against Derry and Donegal His team last year also got a hammering. What has happened why have we got worse

[Take the Mark]

Let's start by getting rid of the quick fix solutions and starting by investing in our youth for once.

Otherwise we have a long and repetitive road of mauling ahead of us

Quick fix number one, get rid of hurling. No other county in Ulster tries to compete as a dual county at a high level it's not possible to balance both and that is proven with Antrim.

The whole north of Antrim don't know what a football looks like that takes away almost half the selection pool of kids at a young age to play football.

There are no other counties in Ulster who take hurling seriously so it has to go, if you want to play hurling move down south or just accept you will be playing at a poor standard in Antrim.

Regards,
SS

Biggest pile of dung I've read on this forum and that's saying something.

 

[YoungSaff]

If I can remember right Niall Jackman had two teams that competed against Derry and Donegal His team last year also got a hammering. What has happened why have we got worse

Worse team of players this year than previous I think is the long short of it and maybe a bit of widening of the gap in quality?

[YoungSaff]

Let's start by getting rid of the quick fix solutions and starting by investing in our youth for once.

Otherwise we have a long and repetitive road of mauling ahead of us

Quick fix number one, get rid of hurling. No other county in Ulster tries to compete as a dual county at a high level it's not possible to balance both and that is proven with Antrim.

The whole north of Antrim don't know what a football looks like that takes away almost half the selection pool of kids at a young age to play football.

There are no other counties in Ulster who take hurling seriously so it has to go, if you want to play hurling move down south or just accept you will be playing at a poor standard in Antrim.

Regards,
SS

Biggest pile of dung I've read on this forum and that's saying something.

 

Agreed , I am wondering is Slemish soilder a genuine member of this forum or attempting to get reactions from fellow members , I have read some bullsh1t on this forum in my time but this takes the biscuit. I don't think we need to abolish the hurls however it does seem to take precedent in a lot of underage teams.

[YoungSaff]

Some hammering last night for the u20s

where do the lads even go from here I was at the game myself and it was clear the difference in quality throughout , even from the lads coming out the physicality and the shape the lads were in compared to some of our lads was like night and day.

Going a man down was never going to help however a good bit of the damage was already done , I agree with the posts on here there is no benefit to young lads going out either giving a team a hammering or getting one there needs to be an A and B section and we need to realise antrim are not operating at the same level as Tyrone , Derry Donegal etc as was evident last night.

The changes will not occur overnight however I feel for the lads training away and to have their character questioned on this board is a disgrace IMO. These are the same lads training 3-4 nights a week to represent the county and they were clearly out of their depth to no fault of their own as the damage starts a lot earlier down the line.

Hopefully we can still see a good crowd out to support them on Saturday against Fermanagh and a better game against a team which is realistically more around their level.

Someone made a point to me last night I was thinking about , my friend from Ahaghallon and me were at the game he told me the u20s and minors have to share a set of jerseys yet we can justify throwing the guts of 200k between a football hurling and senior manager. The people in the upper ends need their heads looked at !!

£200k for hurling and football manager... is this accurate?

I hade heard through a friend of mine who is on the county board Fitz was on 100k plus expenses and mcentee on 70k plus expenses , so i don't think this would be far off the 200k figure when everything factored in

[SlemishSoldier31]

Some of the stuff I have read on here this morning calling out the young fellas involved in last nights game is disgraceful. Of course it's easy to point the finger at the lads on the pitch last night but the damage was already done a long time ago through our horrible promotion of youth across the whole county.

Until that is changed this will unfortunately be the same outcome every year until every so often we have a team which can put up a fight in games.

If we look at Derry for example were in a very similar situation not so long ago and they took a measured approach putting heavy emphasis on the youth and they are now reaping the rewards.

[Take the Mark]

If I can remember right Niall Jackman had two teams that competed against Derry and Donegal His team last year also got a hammering. What has happened why have we got worse

Jackmans teams had players that you'd recognise a lot of from senior teams throughout the county - and he did well with them too.
Last nights side, I wouldn't know the vast majority of them nor see them play much. Maybe thats all thats out there or maybe as mentioned by a previous poster it was a badly assembled squad. Tiernan McCormick must be injured, he would be a big asset for that side.

[Take the Mark]

Some hammering last night for the u20s

where do the lads even go from here I was at the game myself and it was clear the difference in quality throughout , even from the lads coming out the physicality and the shape the lads were in compared to some of our lads was like night and day.

Going a man down was never going to help however a good bit of the damage was already done , I agree with the posts on here there is no benefit to young lads going out either giving a team a hammering or getting one there needs to be an A and B section and we need to realise antrim are not operating at the same level as Tyrone , Derry Donegal etc as was evident last night.

The changes will not occur overnight however I feel for the lads training away and to have their character questioned on this board is a disgrace IMO. These are the same lads training 3-4 nights a week to represent the county and they were clearly out of their depth to no fault of their own as the damage starts a lot earlier down the line.

Hopefully we can still see a good crowd out to support them on Saturday against Fermanagh and a better game against a team which is realistically more around their level.

Someone made a point to me last night I was thinking about , my friend from Ahaghallon and me were at the game he told me the u20s and minors have to share a set of jerseys yet we can justify throwing the guts of 200k between a football hurling and senior manager. The people in the upper ends need their heads looked at !!

£200k for hurling and football manager... is this accurate?

I hade heard through a friend of mine who is on the county board Fitz was on 100k plus expenses and mcentee on 70k plus expenses , so i don't think this would be far off the 200k figure when everything factored in

Surely not, surely to christ this is not true

[YoungSaff]

If I can remember right Niall Jackman had two teams that competed against Derry and Donegal His team last year also got a hammering. What has happened why have we got worse

Jackmans teams had players that you'd recognise a lot of from senior teams throughout the county - and he did well with them too.
Last nights side, I wouldn't know the vast majority of them nor see them play much. Maybe thats all thats out there or maybe as mentioned by a previous poster it was a badly assembled squad. Tiernan McCormick must be injured, he would be a big asset for that side.

Agreed McCormick would be huge for that side Take The Mark , his pace and directness benefit them hugely I have not seen him featuring for Moneyglass even last year who I am sure miss him greatly. I recognised a few of the lads from some of the club senior games last year but a few I had never heard of myself. You wonder is it an issue of not wanting to play , clubs not wanting them to or management missing them out ? Whatever the case the squad looks in a bad way but I suppose you play the cards your dealt!

[YoungSaff]

Some hammering last night for the u20s

where do the lads even go from here I was at the game myself and it was clear the difference in quality throughout , even from the lads coming out the physicality and the shape the lads were in compared to some of our lads was like night and day.

Going a man down was never going to help however a good bit of the damage was already done , I agree with the posts on here there is no benefit to young lads going out either giving a team a hammering or getting one there needs to be an A and B section and we need to realise antrim are not operating at the same level as Tyrone , Derry Donegal etc as was evident last night.

The changes will not occur overnight however I feel for the lads training away and to have their character questioned on this board is a disgrace IMO. These are the same lads training 3-4 nights a week to represent the county and they were clearly out of their depth to no fault of their own as the damage starts a lot earlier down the line.

Hopefully we can still see a good crowd out to support them on Saturday against Fermanagh and a better game against a team which is realistically more around their level.

Someone made a point to me last night I was thinking about , my friend from Ahaghallon and me were at the game he told me the u20s and minors have to share a set of jerseys yet we can justify throwing the guts of 200k between a football hurling and senior manager. The people in the upper ends need their heads looked at !!

£200k for hurling and football manager... is this accurate?

I hade heard through a friend of mine who is on the county board Fitz was on 100k plus expenses and mcentee on 70k plus expenses , so i don't think this would be far off the 200k figure when everything factored in

Surely not, surely to christ this is not true

I thought the same myself , it could be pure sh1te , he'd do anything to wind me up as he knows my feelings on the situation. I would hope it is not true if so we would need to speak to a financial advisor LOL

[SaffronOak]

Some of the stuff I have read on here this morning calling out the young fellas involved in last nights game is disgraceful. Of course it's easy to point the finger at the lads on the pitch last night but the damage was already done a long time ago through our horrible promotion of youth across the whole county.

Until that is changed this will unfortunately be the same outcome every year until every so often we have a team which can put up a fight in games.

If we look at Derry for example were in a very similar situation not so long ago and they took a measured approach putting heavy emphasis on the youth and they are now reaping the rewards.

Derry were never in this situation, thats just simply not trued.  The raw infrastructure was always there in Derry with the strong schools.  It took some fine tuning before they started to reap the rewards i.e. full time coaches employed at schools and a direct working partnership between county management and schools coaching.  Antrim schools arent even close to the level of Derry but I would agree, it should be mirrored. 

[YoungSaff]

Some of the stuff I have read on here this morning calling out the young fellas involved in last nights game is disgraceful. Of course it's easy to point the finger at the lads on the pitch last night but the damage was already done a long time ago through our horrible promotion of youth across the whole county.

Until that is changed this will unfortunately be the same outcome every year until every so often we have a team which can put up a fight in games.

If we look at Derry for example were in a very similar situation not so long ago and they took a measured approach putting heavy emphasis on the youth and they are now reaping the rewards.

The first reasonable thing you've came out with SS!! Agreed the finger is not to be pointed at the lads the damage is done in our youth set ups etc as you said. Again a good point not so long ago Derry were in this situation and look at them now inning minor All Irelands and U20s not so long ago. You wonder when the penny will drop with the higher ups !!!

[YoungSaff]

Some of the stuff I have read on here this morning calling out the young fellas involved in last nights game is disgraceful. Of course it's easy to point the finger at the lads on the pitch last night but the damage was already done a long time ago through our horrible promotion of youth across the whole county.

Until that is changed this will unfortunately be the same outcome every year until every so often we have a team which can put up a fight in games.

If we look at Derry for example were in a very similar situation not so long ago and they took a measured approach putting heavy emphasis on the youth and they are now reaping the rewards.

Derry were never in this situation, thats just simply not trued.  The raw infrastructure was always there in Derry with the strong schools.  It took some fine tuning before they started to reap the rewards i.e. full time coaches employed at schools and a direct working partnership between county management and schools coaching.  Antrim schools arent even close to the level of Derry but I would agree, it should be mirrored.

In my time of playing around 20-25 years ago the gap was certainly a lot lesser between Antrim and Derry than it currently is , we would always have put up at least a fight against them and they had not the dominance they now have but agreed their infrastructure would be on a lot higher level , if I wanted my child to excel in football they would definitely be attending school in derry if it suited geographically