Antrim Football Thread

Started by theskull1, November 09, 2006, 11:48:40 PM

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johnnycool

Quote from: BigGreenField on March 06, 2025, 06:55:04 PMAntrim need to hold firm, principles matter.

Strings will be pulled/ threats made.

I don't envy Frankie Quinns position in times like this.

groundlie

What a ridiculous decision! Another twist in the Casement debacle and an unnecessary one. I would imagine Antrim will stand firm and I don't think many GAA fans inside and outside the county would disagree with thier stance. Shame on Ulster GAA.

SaffronSports

Antrim absolutely have to hold firm. I expect they'll be offered money and/or threatened with expulsion from the Tailteann Cup but if they back down you may as well just accept Antrim will never play another Championship home match.

Hectic

Quote from: Christmas Lights on March 05, 2025, 05:38:21 PMDunloy could be pipped in the intermediate championship, wouldn't say they are miles ahead of st endas or Moneyglass on their day.  Just makes a mockery of the whole thing.  Dunloy are in division 1 this year,  if they don't give a hoot about league football,  surely it would be better for them to be in division 2 then? Championship needs to go hand in hand with the league, I don't think the current format really works.

Quote from: EOC1923 on March 05, 2025, 03:53:17 PMAn even more simple solution is keep Dunloy in the intermediate until they decide to put more effort into the league. The special treatment given here is scandalous. Our reserves were told they couldnt enter Div 2 as the league structures were set in stone until 2026, then they discover Dunloy have been parachuted into Div 1. Only in Antrim

Also, above is correct ref Dunloy.  Ref Cargin reserves, where they looking to be parachuted into D2?  Should they not start in D3? 

Are some of you saying League should trump Championship in criteria for deciding Senior teams (now that leagues and championships are to be aligned)?

Because thats certainly not the way the vast majority of clubs approach the competitions.

YoungSaff

Corrigan or nowhere , we need to stand strong and stick the fingers up to Ulster GAA

Duine Inteacht Eile

We need to do more than that. We need to strap on a pair and stop being Ulster GAA's lapdog on the Casement Park issue. They have been keeping us on the never never for far too long waiting on the non-existent money man to ride in on his white horse. And we have just accepted it.
We need to withdraw support for the never never stadium and begin campaigning that the GAA uses the substantial sum of £120 million to put right the wrongs of the last 15 years.
They've shown that they have little sympathy or loyalty for us on our stadium plight but we continue to support them like we have Stockholm syndrome.

SaffronOak

Quote from: Hectic on March 07, 2025, 12:23:58 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on March 05, 2025, 05:38:21 PMDunloy could be pipped in the intermediate championship, wouldn't say they are miles ahead of st endas or Moneyglass on their day.  Just makes a mockery of the whole thing.  Dunloy are in division 1 this year,  if they don't give a hoot about league football,  surely it would be better for them to be in division 2 then? Championship needs to go hand in hand with the league, I don't think the current format really works.

Quote from: EOC1923 on March 05, 2025, 03:53:17 PMAn even more simple solution is keep Dunloy in the intermediate until they decide to put more effort into the league. The special treatment given here is scandalous. Our reserves were told they couldnt enter Div 2 as the league structures were set in stone until 2026, then they discover Dunloy have been parachuted into Div 1. Only in Antrim

Also, above is correct ref Dunloy.  Ref Cargin reserves, where they looking to be parachuted into D2?  Should they not start in D3? 

Are some of you saying League should trump Championship in criteria for deciding Senior teams (now that leagues and championships are to be aligned)?

Because thats certainly not the way the vast majority of clubs approach the competitions.

Dunloy league and championship different due to player county commitments in hurling.  All those lads you see hurling for Antrim bar Ryan Elliott are dual players and more than handy when it comes to the big ball also.  Ryan himself was a very handy footballer (to say the least) but chose to go with hurling only.
You just have to look at Dunloy's hurling league form also - nothing spectacular but they would probably have a bit more strength in depth when it comes to hurling to never be in any danger of relegation.

To say Dunloy need to take the league more seriously is wrong.  It would make for interesting discussions if they were asked to play Intermediate - penalised for basically providing 8 if not 9 players for county hurling.  Potentially putting those players who play county into a position where they have to chose... Division 1 football or Inter County hurling?

tiempo

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 07, 2025, 09:29:53 AMWe need to do more than that. We need to strap on a pair and stop being Ulster GAA's lapdog on the Casement Park issue. They have been keeping us on the never never for far too long waiting on the non-existent money man to ride in on his white horse. And we have just accepted it.
We need to withdraw support for the never never stadium and begin campaigning that the GAA uses the substantial sum of £120 million to put right the wrongs of the last 15 years.
They've shown that they have little sympathy or loyalty for us on our stadium plight but we continue to support them like we have Stockholm syndrome.

If you tolerate this
Then your children will be next

EOC1923

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 07, 2025, 09:29:53 AMWe need to do more than that. We need to strap on a pair and stop being Ulster GAA's lapdog on the Casement Park issue. They have been keeping us on the never never for far too long waiting on the non-existent money man to ride in on his white horse. And we have just accepted it.
We need to withdraw support for the never never stadium and begin campaigning that the GAA uses the substantial sum of £120 million to put right the wrongs of the last 15 years.
They've shown that they have little sympathy or loyalty for us on our stadium plight but we continue to support them like we have Stockholm syndrome.
What he said

Dash83

What's going to happen about tickets for the match? If it's true that there's more Armagh season ticket holders which guarantees a championship ticket then it's a complete farce if Antrim have a home game and it's full of Armagh fans

naka

Reality is Antrim are entitled to stand their ground
As an Armagh fan happy to forfeit my ticket , indeed not sure if we are entitled to one simply are entitled to purchase one .

thegladiator

Quote from: SaffronOak on March 07, 2025, 09:33:46 AM
Quote from: Hectic on March 07, 2025, 12:23:58 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on March 05, 2025, 05:38:21 PMDunloy could be pipped in the intermediate championship, wouldn't say they are miles ahead of st endas or Moneyglass on their day.  Just makes a mockery of the whole thing.  Dunloy are in division 1 this year,  if they don't give a hoot about league football,  surely it would be better for them to be in division 2 then? Championship needs to go hand in hand with the league, I don't think the current format really works.

Quote from: EOC1923 on March 05, 2025, 03:53:17 PMAn even more simple solution is keep Dunloy in the intermediate until they decide to put more effort into the league. The special treatment given here is scandalous. Our reserves were told they couldnt enter Div 2 as the league structures were set in stone until 2026, then they discover Dunloy have been parachuted into Div 1. Only in Antrim

Also, above is correct ref Dunloy.  Ref Cargin reserves, where they looking to be parachuted into D2?  Should they not start in D3? 

Are some of you saying League should trump Championship in criteria for deciding Senior teams (now that leagues and championships are to be aligned)?

Because thats certainly not the way the vast majority of clubs approach the competitions.

Dunloy league and championship different due to player county commitments in hurling.  All those lads you see hurling for Antrim bar Ryan Elliott are dual players and more than handy when it comes to the big ball also.  Ryan himself was a very handy footballer (to say the least) but chose to go with hurling only.
You just have to look at Dunloy's hurling league form also - nothing spectacular but they would probably have a bit more strength in depth when it comes to hurling to never be in any danger of relegation.

To say Dunloy need to take the league more seriously is wrong.  It would make for interesting discussions if they were asked to play Intermediate - penalised for basically providing 8 if not 9 players for county hurling.  Potentially putting those players who play county into a position where they have to chose... Division 1 football or Inter County hurling?
I think you answered your own question there. If their league results are bad due to county commitments- surely putting them at a higher division will not help matters as they will still be missing those  players?
It's done now but  this fiasco just ensures that we are going to be in The same situation next season and probably the season after until someone comes up with another mental way of doing things. Rinse and repeat!

SaffronOak

Problem comes from this link between league and championship - madness when county players arent available for league.  In an ideal world it's perfect and all players are available.  But it's not and to have them linked is wrong!

paddyjohn

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 07, 2025, 09:29:53 AMWe need to do more than that. We need to strap on a pair and stop being Ulster GAA's lapdog on the Casement Park issue. They have been keeping us on the never never for far too long waiting on the non-existent money man to ride in on his white horse. And we have just accepted it.
We need to withdraw support for the never never stadium and begin campaigning that the GAA uses the substantial sum of £120 million to put right the wrongs of the last 15 years.
They've shown that they have little sympathy or loyalty for us on our stadium plight but we continue to support them like we have Stockholm syndrome.

Bingo.

SaffronSports

Quote from: SaffronOak on March 07, 2025, 11:25:28 AMProblem comes from this link between league and championship - madness when county players arent available for league.  In an ideal world it's perfect and all players are available.  But it's not and to have them linked is wrong!

Nailed it. It's two different competitions with different personnel and should be treated as such.