Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[on the sideline]

Why are they getting rid off the inter-division play offs?

E.g. Proposals:
Bottom Team goes down
Next two play off. Loser goes down. Winner stays up.

Why not keep it as it currently is?
Bottom Team goes down
Next two play off. Loser goes down.
Winner plays team coming through promotion play-off from league below.

By getting rid of that third possible promotion slot from Divisions 2 and 3 there's going to be some amount of dead rubber games from half way through the league onwards...

Why would anyone think that's a good idea? That scramble to make the promotion play-offs keeps things active and very competitive in both those divisions right up until the end of the season. Stupid to do away with something that clearly works.

[W.A.G. Lover]

Why are they getting rid off the inter-division play offs?

E.g. Proposals:
Bottom Team goes down
Next two play off. Loser goes down. Winner stays up.

Why not keep it as it currently is?
Bottom Team goes down
Next two play off. Loser goes down.
Winner plays team coming through promotion play-off from league below.

By getting rid of that third possible promotion slot from Divisions 2 and 3 there's going to be some amount of dead rubber games from half way through the league onwards...

Why would anyone think that's a good idea? That scramble to make the promotion play-offs keeps things active and very competitive in both those divisions right up until the end of the season. Stupid to do away with something that clearly works.

Assuming you havent or dont play? Imagine you are sitting 3rd-6th in the table vying for promotion or 14th-15th and fighting relegation. Potentially out in the 1st round of the championship but have to wait until club championship is over to dictate who makes the playoffs, with 6th potentially not even making the cut.

Option B makes most sense as 8 teams in a league with 2 promoted and 3 in a relegation battle (With 2 down) so only 3 dead rubber positions. Like the split in division 3 it takes away the potential mis matches and creates more competitiveness.

Even option A has added that those who finish higher get more home games the following season to give you some drive to win the remainder of your games.

[on the sideline]

Why are they getting rid off the inter-division play offs?

E.g. Proposals:
Bottom Team goes down
Next two play off. Loser goes down. Winner stays up.

Why not keep it as it currently is?
Bottom Team goes down
Next two play off. Loser goes down.
Winner plays team coming through promotion play-off from league below.

By getting rid of that third possible promotion slot from Divisions 2 and 3 there's going to be some amount of dead rubber games from half way through the league onwards...

Why would anyone think that's a good idea? That scramble to make the promotion play-offs keeps things active and very competitive in both those divisions right up until the end of the season. Stupid to do away with something that clearly works.

Assuming you havent or dont play? Imagine you are sitting 3rd-6th in the table vying for promotion or 14th-15th and fighting relegation. Potentially out in the 1st round of the championship but have to wait until club championship is over to dictate who makes the playoffs, with 6th potentially not even making the cut.

Option B makes most sense as 8 teams in a league with 2 promoted and 3 in a relegation battle (With 2 down) so only 3 dead rubber positions. Like the split in division 3 it takes away the potential mis matches and creates more competitiveness.

Even option A has added that those who finish higher get more home games the following season to give you some drive to win the remainder of your games.

Lol oh don't worry I've played, been and am involved enough. And in plenty of play-off games going both ways. Why would I want my season to be over if out in first round of championship? If my goal is promotion and its gone from winning the championship and I can't win the league then I would absolutely want a chance at the play-offs rather than having any dead rubber games. Having been on the end of a relegation due to teams effectively throwing dead rubber games at the end of the year, the less possibility for those the better.

Maybe the cutting down to 8 teams will help this. Could there be an option even for 3rd and 4th positions (or 2nd v3rd if a team wins the double etc.)to play-off and the winner play the winner of the relegation play-off? Would mean less possibility of any dead rubbers. They're a crap way to end a season, and unfair on teams who suffer because some other team got a handy win that was given to them by a team with nothing to play for.

Maybe others don't though.

[Easttyrone23]

Any thoughts on the proposed league changes for div1 and 2 next year?

For anyone unaware the majority of club delegates have voted in favour of splitting both divisions into a and b. Top 8 teams in div 1 this year will qualify for 1a next year then next 5/6 plus promoted teams playing in 1b.

Relegation will be the same with bottom team in the b league being relegated with the next 2 entering a relegation playoff. top 2 in B promoted to A and bottom 2 in A relegated to B

No more playoff for the league title with the top in A winning it. Starred games are worth 2 points for a win and non starred worth 3 for a win.

This is incorrect.
There hasn't been a vote on which option to go with yet.

Apologies I stand corrected, I'm assuming though if there's to be a vote on that option then there must have been support from multiple clubs on it.

[Talbotstephen]

Any word on fixtures coming out? I'm flying at the minute and ready to go! God love whoever I meet in that first game under the new stand of Stewartstown Harps GFC! What a club.
Dungannon for senior
Stewartsown intermediate
Brocagh junior

[Rebel84]

while the clarkes only went back training a few weeks back and despite missing a lot of starters from last season was very impressed with the fianna today. they look fitter and sharper than 2024 and big McHugh was back for them and excellent in midfield with tiernan quinn up front doing a lot of damage. he looks to have shook off the injury he was carrying end of last season and cant understand why he's not in the county setup would be a better option that 1 or 2 others possibly.

[Rebel84]

in any other year fianna would walk div2 but they've the rahillys and eglish maybe moy to contend with
will be interesting at top of div2 this season

[NotedObserver]

while the clarkes only went back training a few weeks back and despite missing a lot of starters from last season was very impressed with the fianna today. they look fitter and sharper than 2024 and big McHugh was back for them and excellent in midfield with tiernan quinn up front doing a lot of damage. he looks to have shook off the injury he was carrying end of last season and cant understand why he's not in the county setup would be a better option that 1 or 2 others possibly.

Would McHugh be on the Tyrone development panel? Hopefully gets an injury free run now

[Easttyrone23]

in any other year fianna would walk div2 but they've the rahillys and eglish maybe moy to contend with
will be interesting at top of div2 this season

Would they have walked it vs clonoe in 2023? Or in 2022 when Galbally, Eglish, edendork and Pomeroy were there? Trillick and Dungannon struggled to get promoted before going on to win the O'neill cup. Many people seem to underestimate how competitive division 2 is. I wouldn't be surprised if both Coalisland and clonoe will still be playing intermediate football next year. And with their youth teams playing grade 2/3 football they could be at that level for a while.

[on the sideline]

Anyone hear anything about Tattyreagh and Errigal Thirds being moved to 3A instead of 3B? Be fit for it in fairness. That 3B is a poor standard.

[Goals_Will_Come]

in any other year fianna would walk div2 but they've the rahillys and eglish maybe moy to contend with
will be interesting at top of div2 this season

Would they have walked it vs clonoe in 2023? Or in 2022 when Galbally, Eglish, edendork and Pomeroy were there? Trillick and Dungannon struggled to get promoted before going on to win the O'neill cup. Many people seem to underestimate how competitive division 2 is. I wouldn't be surprised if both Coalisland and clonoe will still be playing intermediate football next year. And with their youth teams playing grade 2/3 football they could be at that level for a while.

Eglish probably the favourites to go up through the league based on their past form in the Intermediate League.

[ShoresOfTyrone]

Would agree that Eglish are probably the favourites for the league before it starts, they have had a good start to the year winning the Ulster Intermediate League and will most likely have their strongest team for most of the year whereas the likes of the Fianna being down their county players in the starred rounds. However, divison 2 is a dramatic league at the best of times with quite a few teams fancying their chances of winning the league/championship.

[clarshack]

Eglish have won Division 2 four times, all in recent enough times - 2007, 2010, 2018, 2022.

Would have them favourites for the league, Clonoe 2nd then Coalisland.

Coalisland will win championship if they stay injury free.

[ClubScene13]

They finished below Clonoe and Coalisland last year and lost to both of them. Good pre season if that counts for anything but I wouldn't have them over those two.

Any word on league fixtures?

[soloandgo25]

Any updates on league fixtures being released?

Side note - some of the results in the Jim Devlin cup have been farcical or possibly worrying...