Antrim Football Thread

[Spike]

Dark cloud

Are you declaring there is an Ulster in this side MR2?   Should we all be heading to the bookies at lunchtime?

[Milltown Row2]

Dark cloud

Are you declaring there is an Ulster in this side MR2?   Should we all be heading to the bookies at lunchtime?

No, but Christ the night if everyone is rowing in the same direction you'll get there quicker, some posters views are negative flat out out, proper dark clouds, miserable.

We haven't competed properly since the 50's, funny I see the last player alive regularly enough that competed on those teams, great a fella, I love his stories and always make enough time in the appointment to hear the craic.

So its possible at some point in life that we can become better, but while club is king and people prefer to row in behind that instead then we haven't got a chance, its easier to wait on the bad results to have a go, which would be typical 

[Spike]

it probably is easier as we dont have long to wait on the bad results

[Spike]

Antrim's Strategic Plan in case anyone is interested: https://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/Antrim-GAA-Strategic-Plan-Final.pdf

[Cnoc Bán]

Antrim's Strategic Plan in case anyone is interested: https://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/Antrim-GAA-Strategic-Plan-Final.pdf

I'm surprised the link even works.....

[Take the Mark]

The club is king chat is tiresome. Its no different in Down, Derry, Armagh, Tyrone so quit with using that as a bullshit excuse for Antrim failing to get its act together for the past umpteen years. There is very little to be positive about at county level for Antrim, avoid relegation = positive. Which in itself is a bit shit isnt it.

[SaffronSports]

It's definitely tiresome as an attitude. These massive club rivalries and folk not putting their all behind the county because of it when in the grand scheme of things our biggest clubs and their rivalries are the equivalent of who won the Bristol derby.

[Take the Mark]

It's definitely tiresome as an attitude. These massive club rivalries and folk not putting their all behind the county because of it when in the grand scheme of things our biggest clubs and their rivalries are the equivalent of who won the Bristol derby.

Who isn't putting their all behind their county in Antrim? What clubs havent got players up there?

[YoungSaff]

It's definitely tiresome as an attitude. These massive club rivalries and folk not putting their all behind the county because of it when in the grand scheme of things our biggest clubs and their rivalries are the equivalent of who won the Bristol derby.

Who isn't putting their all behind their county in Antrim? What clubs havent got players up there?

I think there is a real poor attitude toward the county from clubs , managers will expect players to put the club first which also is a feeding factor. However with the large commitment to play county football with minimal reward . recognition can you blame some players for not wanting to play?

[EOC1923]

It's definitely tiresome as an attitude. These massive club rivalries and folk not putting their all behind the county because of it when in the grand scheme of things our biggest clubs and their rivalries are the equivalent of who won the Bristol derby.

This is an easy way of letting Antrim and its leadership off the hook for decades of failure, blame the clubs.
Instead of fixing the u15/16/17 we plough hundreds of thousands into our senior team and still could get relegated. Work that one out. If we go into Divison 4 I would leave them there and spend the bare minimum on them. Plough the money into the underage teams, start at U12/14 if it takes 10-15  years for us to rise so be it.

[Spike]

Club rivalries has nothing to do with it. Every county has internal and heated rivalries.
 
The County cant sell the Antrim dream and they keep going for the quick fix.  Stick to a proper plan and spend the time to get it right even if it takes years

[imtommygunn]

Agree on the club rivalries part. There's much worse round the country than we have and it's an easy excuse.

The problems we have are not dissimilar to a lot of counties in the context of the senior team itself. Look at the buy in you need for county level these days. The division 3 / division 4 teams in particular will all struggle to get players to commit.

We are ploughing loads into senior without underage getting hugely better. (seems to be getting worse though I do wonder sometimes is it just under more scrutiny because more info is available).

[YoungSaff]

Club rivalries has nothing to do with it. Every county has internal and heated rivalries.
 
The County cant sell the Antrim dream and they keep going for the quick fix.  Stick to a proper plan and spend the time to get it right even if it takes years

agree spike it starts at underage and youth level , plough the money into good coaches and proper structures , the state of the county is a joke , a lad from our club was telling us they had to pay for their own gear at the county wtf wheras the seniors are treated like royalty but are going nowhere. If antrim ever want to get out of the state they are in it starts at grass routes level , a big step imo is participation at high levels young i,.e Ulster A colleges football i think plays a massive factor in player development

[Take the Mark]

Club rivalries has nothing to do with it. Every county has internal and heated rivalries.
 
The County cant sell the Antrim dream and they keep going for the quick fix.  Stick to a proper plan and spend the time to get it right even if it takes years

Correct. If you keep doing what you've always done you'll get what you always got.

Tripe about clubs not buying in and no substance to back that up. Complete lazy, ill informed tripe.

[imtommygunn]

They're not doing what they've always done though. There's gaelfast and there's more investment in senior managers. It's a different argument as to how successful they have been mind you but that's not doing what you've always done and getting what you've always got.