Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

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JoG2

Quote from: BigGreenField on March 01, 2025, 05:35:18 PMIf rules are having to be tweaked this later in the day possibly an argument not to thaw the change from the original rule at all.


Soli and Go and 3 men up the only 2 that properly work.


And the keeper not allowed on the ball in his own half

Armagh18

3 up well intentioned but too hard to police, get rid.

This 20 second kickout rule must be the worst thing yet.

Let kickouts go short.

Seems to be the Dubs and Kerry media mostly crying about goalkeepers, its not the Ulster teams fault that they'd the tactical brains to develop a new tactic.

AustinPowers

Is the keeper allowed to  carry the ball  back into his own half , after he receives the ball in the opposition half?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2025, 10:31:06 PMIs the keeper allowed to  carry the ball  back into his own half , after he receives the ball in the opposition half?

Maybe
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

AustinPowers

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2025, 11:06:58 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2025, 10:31:06 PMIs the keeper allowed to  carry the ball  back into his own half , after he receives the ball in the opposition half?

Maybe

Well, if you don't know...  we're frigged

Milltown Row2

Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2025, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2025, 11:06:58 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2025, 10:31:06 PMIs the keeper allowed to  carry the ball  back into his own half , after he receives the ball in the opposition half?

Maybe

Well, if you don't know...  we're frigged

Fourth game tomorrow, I'll just see how it goes
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Armagh4sam2024

Hope Jim Gavin's vanity w**k-fest project gets binned before he destroys 150 years of heritage...

statto

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2025, 11:06:58 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 01, 2025, 10:31:06 PMIs the keeper allowed to  carry the ball  back into his own half , after he receives the ball in the opposition half?

Maybe
yes as far as know apologies on behalf of attention seeker.

Armagh18

Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on March 02, 2025, 12:21:14 AMHope Jim Gavin's vanity w**k-fest project gets binned before he destroys 150 years of heritage...
Agreed.

Arrogant man.

SpeculativeEffort

I wish a longer, more gradual approach had been taken by FRC. This is an experiment. Any decent scientist will change only one thing at a time to see what works. The FRC have made 7+ changes and it's a mess.
Start with 3 v 3 in each half. See if that has an impact. Maybe go 4 v 4 if needed.
It would be a tweak rather than inventing a new game.

marty34

Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on March 02, 2025, 07:25:02 AMI wish a longer, more gradual approach had been taken by FRC. This is an experiment. Any decent scientist will change only one thing at a time to see what works. The FRC have made 7+ changes and it's a mess.
Start with 3 v 3 in each half. See if that has an impact. Maybe go 4 v 4 if needed.
It would be a tweak rather than inventing a new game.

100%.  I agree.

It's all too rushed. Like let's make as many changes as possible inside a few months. Not running pre season comps was a mess also.

Change 2 things this year. Review it and see.

Armagh18

Quote from: marty34 on March 02, 2025, 08:00:22 AM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on March 02, 2025, 07:25:02 AMI wish a longer, more gradual approach had been taken by FRC. This is an experiment. Any decent scientist will change only one thing at a time to see what works. The FRC have made 7+ changes and it's a mess.
Start with 3 v 3 in each half. See if that has an impact. Maybe go 4 v 4 if needed.
It would be a tweak rather than inventing a new game.

100%.  I agree.

It's all too rushed. Like let's make as many changes as possible inside a few months. Not running pre season comps was a mess also.

Change 2 things this year. Review it and see. 
I'd say the horse has bolted unfortunately.

on the sideline

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 02, 2025, 08:08:57 AM
Quote from: marty34 on March 02, 2025, 08:00:22 AM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on March 02, 2025, 07:25:02 AMI wish a longer, more gradual approach had been taken by FRC. This is an experiment. Any decent scientist will change only one thing at a time to see what works. The FRC have made 7+ changes and it's a mess.
Start with 3 v 3 in each half. See if that has an impact. Maybe go 4 v 4 if needed.
It would be a tweak rather than inventing a new game.

100%.  I agree.

It's all too rushed. Like let's make as many changes as possible inside a few months. Not running pre season comps was a mess also.

Change 2 things this year. Review it and see. 
I'd say the horse has bolted unfortunately.

Ego is going to play a massive part in this. They've done too much in one go as others have said. Then constant corrections and amendments. For me, it has become unnecessarily messy. Instead of people starting to get to grips with the changes, now I'd say there's even more confusion. There cannot be confusion over any of those new rules. If there's not total clarity for everyone then the rule isn't fit for purpose and needs to go.

But will the egos of those involved at the top acknowledge this? Doubt it.

It was telling last night that Canavan had no answer to Rafferty when he spoke about the kickouts for example.

Armagh18

Quote from: on the sideline on March 02, 2025, 08:16:50 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 02, 2025, 08:08:57 AM
Quote from: marty34 on March 02, 2025, 08:00:22 AM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on March 02, 2025, 07:25:02 AMI wish a longer, more gradual approach had been taken by FRC. This is an experiment. Any decent scientist will change only one thing at a time to see what works. The FRC have made 7+ changes and it's a mess.
Start with 3 v 3 in each half. See if that has an impact. Maybe go 4 v 4 if needed.
It would be a tweak rather than inventing a new game.

100%.  I agree.

It's all too rushed. Like let's make as many changes as possible inside a few months. Not running pre season comps was a mess also.

Change 2 things this year. Review it and see. 
I'd say the horse has bolted unfortunately.

Ego is going to play a massive part in this. They've done too much in one go as others have said. Then constant corrections and amendments. For me, it has become unnecessarily messy. Instead of people starting to get to grips with the changes, now I'd say there's even more confusion. There cannot be confusion over any of those new rules. If there's not total clarity for everyone then the rule isn't fit for purpose and needs to go.

But will the egos of those involved at the top acknowledge this? Doubt it.

It was telling last night that Canavan had no answer to Rafferty when he spoke about the kickouts for example.
Spot on.

We saw last night that 3 up is hard to police with umpires and linesmen so god help the man on his own at a club match.

APM

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 02, 2025, 08:08:57 AM
Quote from: marty34 on March 02, 2025, 08:00:22 AM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on March 02, 2025, 07:25:02 AMI wish a longer, more gradual approach had been taken by FRC. This is an experiment. Any decent scientist will change only one thing at a time to see what works. The FRC have made 7+ changes and it's a mess.
Start with 3 v 3 in each half. See if that has an impact. Maybe go 4 v 4 if needed.
It would be a tweak rather than inventing a new game.

100%.  I agree.

It's all too rushed. Like let's make as many changes as possible inside a few months. Not running pre season comps was a mess also.

Change 2 things this year. Review it and see. 
I'd say the horse has bolted unfortunately.

It's not far away - the game is much more entertaining. They haven't ironed out the unintended consequences and there is too much confusion from refs. I laugh at all this nonsense about kickouts turning into a lottery and being an unseemly mess - which I see as one of the successes of the new rules. This is one area where the new rules take is back to the pre-McGuinness era.