Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

Started by BennyCake, September 09, 2014, 12:47:26 PM

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Ball Hopper

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2025, 12:37:46 AM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on March 01, 2025, 12:21:24 AMMy reading is that if a player is fouled and his momentum takes him a bit away from the foul, or he's a bit away from the exact spot of the foul when the ball is returned to him, then he can solo and go as long he is within 4m of the exact foul location.  He can travel 4m after the solo before being tackled.

If he is more than 4m from the exact foul location, a conventional free is taken, with no solo and go option - if he solos beyond the 4m of the exact foul location, hop ball.



Are we giving people permission to take the 'free' 4 meters from the actual spot of foul?

As long as the player is within 4m of the foul and his first action is solo, then play continues.

That sentence explains everything clearly in my head.  Outside 4m, bring it back for conventional free.  Steps before solo, hop ball.

Cavan19

20 seconds for free kicks? Is that the end off keepers strolling up to kick them?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Cavan19 on March 01, 2025, 06:51:28 AM20 seconds for free kicks? Is that the end off keepers strolling up to kick them?

Most keepers will be out field anyways.. with the automatic free instead of a hop ball for taking more than 20 seconds for a kick out it should speed things up
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

pbat

Quote from: Cavan19 on March 01, 2025, 06:51:28 AM20 seconds for free kicks? Is that the end off keepers strolling up to kick them?

If Dublin Joe had of had the guts he would have hopped the ball at the end of the 2011 final rather than allowing Cluxton 20 minutes to amble up the field and take the free that probably changed the course of GAA.

on the sideline




APM

Why have we not seen a big target man on the edge of the square being used more?  Between the mark rule, tap & go and the backs having to guard the 2 pointers I'm surprised we haven't seen more of it. Given the job Walsh is doing for Galway on the 2 pointers, does a fit Comer not become the perfect combination?

on the sideline

#2198
Quote from: JoG2 on March 01, 2025, 09:52:58 AM
Quote from: on the sideline on March 01, 2025, 09:47:06 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 28, 2025, 11:13:33 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 28, 2025, 11:05:22 AMhttps://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/335292
On the advanced mark- if thr player has a clear advantage but puts the ball wide/shot is saved/blocked, is it still taken back for the mark?

Yes

No
It is. If the shot is missed, he's tackled or blocked or no advantage accrues it goes back to the mark position. And at that stage anyone can take the kick. They're going to play it for up to 20 seconds.

Unless this has changed since the 18th February, the rule is as above.

Which I now see it has🙈lol Ah jeez lads this is going to be messy, you bring players in and go through rules, they start to get to grips with them and then they're changed as we go. That one is now as clear as mud - the more they change these rules the messier it's getting. What is the right answer to it now?

Was clear originally, but now if he misses after a 'clear advantage' is that advantage over or go back to mark? It doesn't state either clearly. So how's a referee, coach or player supposed to be clear on that? Mess


DuffleKing

Quote from: on the sideline on March 01, 2025, 12:44:22 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 01, 2025, 09:52:58 AM
Quote from: on the sideline on March 01, 2025, 09:47:06 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 28, 2025, 11:13:33 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 28, 2025, 11:05:22 AMhttps://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/335292
On the advanced mark- if thr player has a clear advantage but puts the ball wide/shot is saved/blocked, is it still taken back for the mark?

Yes

No
It is. If the shot is missed, he's tackled or blocked or no advantage accrues it goes back to the mark position. And at that stage anyone can take the kick. They're going to play it for up to 20 seconds.

Unless this has changed since the 18th February, the rule is as above.

Which I now see it has🙈lol Ah jeez lads this is going to be messy, you bring players in and go through rules, they start to get to grips with them and then they're changed as we go.

No time limit - ref's discretion

on the sideline

Quote from: DuffleKing on March 01, 2025, 12:58:36 PM
Quote from: on the sideline on March 01, 2025, 12:44:22 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 01, 2025, 09:52:58 AM
Quote from: on the sideline on March 01, 2025, 09:47:06 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 28, 2025, 11:13:33 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 28, 2025, 11:05:22 AMhttps://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/335292
On the advanced mark- if thr player has a clear advantage but puts the ball wide/shot is saved/blocked, is it still taken back for the mark?

Yes

No
It is. If the shot is missed, he's tackled or blocked or no advantage accrues it goes back to the mark position. And at that stage anyone can take the kick. They're going to play it for up to 20 seconds.

Unless this has changed since the 18th February, the rule is as above.

Which I now see it has🙈lol Ah jeez lads this is going to be messy, you bring players in and go through rules, they start to get to grips with them and then they're changed as we go.

No time limit - ref's discretion

Yea you're right it's refs discretion, but the refs who were at our seminar said that 20 seconds was the rough timeframe they'd been given

twohands!!!

https://www.gaa.ie/article/football-review-committee-update

The review process will continue early next week when the FRC reconvenes and factors in the findings from round five of the competition.

At that juncture the committee will present its findings and any recommendations to the Standing Committee on Playing Rules who will in turn liaise with both Coiste Bainistíochta and Ard Chomhairlewho are seheduled to meet on Thursday 13th Marchto determine the future implementation of the enhancements before the commencement of the football championship.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: twohands!!! on March 01, 2025, 02:39:27 PMhttps://www.gaa.ie/article/football-review-committee-update

The review process will continue early next week when the FRC reconvenes and factors in the findings from round five of the competition.

At that juncture the committee will present its findings and any recommendations to the Standing Committee on Playing Rules who will in turn liaise with both Coiste Bainistíochta and Ard Chomhairlewho are seheduled to meet on Thursday 13th Marchto determine the future implementation of the enhancements before the commencement of the football championship.

So which rules are we playing with this weekend?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

BigGreenField

If rules are having to be tweaked this later in the day possibly an argument not to thaw the change from the original rule at all.


Soli and Go and 3 men up the only 2 that properly work.