Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[AustinPowers]

What happened with Rafferty  saving the  shot late on?

Defender then  passed it back to him in the square,  but play was stopped.  Armagh got a  Free.

What was that about?

[Harold Disgracey]

What happened with Rafferty  saving the  shot late on?

Defender then  passed it back to him in the square,  but play was stopped.  Armagh got a  Free.

What was that about?

No idea, there were a few baffling decisions made by the ref tonight.

[smort]

What happened with Rafferty  saving the  shot late on?

Defender then  passed it back to him in the square,  but play was stopped.  Armagh got a  Free.

What was that about?

Didn't see the incident myself but keepers can receive a pass in their own square, if the player passing the ball is also in the square

[statto]

What happened with Rafferty  saving the  shot late on?

Defender then  passed it back to him in the square,  but play was stopped.  Armagh got a  Free.

What was that about?

Didn't see the incident myself but keepers can receive a pass in their own square, if the player passing the ball is also in the square

Rafferty seemed to be doing serious giving off about it at the time not sure what was going on.

[David McKeown]

What happened with Rafferty  saving the  shot late on?

Defender then  passed it back to him in the square,  but play was stopped.  Armagh got a  Free.

What was that about?

Didn't see the incident myself but keepers can receive a pass in their own square, if the player passing the ball is also in the square

Rafferty seemed to be doing serious giving off about it at the time not sure what was going on.

Ref initially pointed for a free in and then changed his decision. Looked like someone told him he got the rule wrong.

If that is what happened though should it have not been a hop ball even though that would have been unfair on Armagh.

Mind you winning the free was a big disadvantage anyway.

[David McKeown]

There was another incident I wanted clarification on. One of the Mayo players committed a seat belt tackle round the shoulder/neck area.

The ref allowed the solo and go. Mayo then committed a second foul and the ref went back and booked for the first foul. I thought once the play had restarted you couldn't go back?

[GTP]

If you land inside the arc after shooting by rule is it 1 or 2 points?

[David McKeown]

One foot must be on or outside the arc when you shoot and it must go directly over for 2 points

[onefineday]

What 8 meters?

The 4 steps/strides before taking the solo and the 4 after it

ow however, a player who is
fouled can solo (Toe-Tap) immediately, within 4m of where the foul occurred, and continue to attack. If
they solo & go they cannot be challenged for 4m.

You'll not get 8m I wouldn't think.

It's a very good rule but tricky to police to the letter.

We've been told by Ulster Council official and backed up by referees at meeting on Monday night that you can take the solo within 4m of where the foul occurred then have 4 more after where you can't be touched - so in essence that's 8m. Ok maybe need to solo before the 4m, but that's still 7m at least of not being able to be touched. The ulster council official and referees were put over this repeatedly and that is how it was explained.

So my questions remain:

Think thats abit much.

Imo the best rule would give 4m from where the foul actually was to allow for momentum etc if you are being fouled, take the solo immediately and then you get 4 clear metres of not being touched.

Agree with that - makes it clear to everyone what is going on.

[Milltown Row2]

What happened with Rafferty  saving the  shot late on?

Defender then  passed it back to him in the square,  but play was stopped.  Armagh got a  Free.

What was that about?

Didn't see the incident myself but keepers can receive a pass in their own square, if the player passing the ball is also in the square

Rafferty seemed to be doing serious giving off about it at the time not sure what was going on.

Ref initially pointed for a free in and then changed his decision. Looked like someone told him he got the rule wrong.

If that is what happened though should it have not been a hop ball even though that would have been unfair on Armagh.

Mind you winning the free was a big disadvantage anyway.

Ref made three mistakes, there was no foul, clearly collected pass inside square, blew whistle for foul, realised he made mistake, good, but having blown for the foul and discussed reason he can't just change it,  different if he puts arm up for free going different direction and changes straight away, the actual rules don't allow that. And thirdly after making a balls up gives Armagh a free out when there was no free in first place, hop ball on 14 was the best case scenario but he even got that wrong.

Now bring yourself to the club games when no one is 'helping' the ref, going to be carnage

[David McKeown]

What happened with Rafferty  saving the  shot late on?

Defender then  passed it back to him in the square,  but play was stopped.  Armagh got a  Free.

What was that about?

Didn't see the incident myself but keepers can receive a pass in their own square, if the player passing the ball is also in the square

Rafferty seemed to be doing serious giving off about it at the time not sure what was going on.

Ref initially pointed for a free in and then changed his decision. Looked like someone told him he got the rule wrong.

If that is what happened though should it have not been a hop ball even though that would have been unfair on Armagh.

Mind you winning the free was a big disadvantage anyway.

Ref made three mistakes, there was no foul, clearly collected pass inside square, blew whistle for foul, realised he made mistake, good, but having blown for the foul and discussed reason he can't just change it,  different if he puts arm up for free going different direction and changes straight away, the actual rules don't allow that. And thirdly after making a balls up gives Armagh a free out when there was no free in first place, hop ball on 14 was the best case scenario but he even got that wrong.

Now bring yourself to the club games when no one is 'helping' the ref, going to be carnage

Yeah there was no good answer though. Once he made the c**k up Armagh were always going to be disadvantaged to some degree.

[David McKeown]

What happened with Rafferty  saving the  shot late on?

Defender then  passed it back to him in the square,  but play was stopped.  Armagh got a  Free.

What was that about?

Didn't see the incident myself but keepers can receive a pass in their own square, if the player passing the ball is also in the square

Rafferty seemed to be doing serious giving off about it at the time not sure what was going on.

Ref initially pointed for a free in and then changed his decision. Looked like someone told him he got the rule wrong.

If that is what happened though should it have not been a hop ball even though that would have been unfair on Armagh.

Mind you winning the free was a big disadvantage anyway.

Ref made three mistakes, there was no foul, clearly collected pass inside square, blew whistle for foul, realised he made mistake, good, but having blown for the foul and discussed reason he can't just change it,  different if he puts arm up for free going different direction and changes straight away, the actual rules don't allow that. And thirdly after making a balls up gives Armagh a free out when there was no free in first place, hop ball on 14 was the best case scenario but he even got that wrong.

Now bring yourself to the club games when no one is 'helping' the ref, going to be carnage

Is that right?  In the Armagh v Down Ulster Semi last year the referee awarded Armagh a free then got talked out of it and changed his mind and decided to award an earlier free.

[Milltown Row2]

What happened with Rafferty  saving the  shot late on?

Defender then  passed it back to him in the square,  but play was stopped.  Armagh got a  Free.

What was that about?

Didn't see the incident myself but keepers can receive a pass in their own square, if the player passing the ball is also in the square

Rafferty seemed to be doing serious giving off about it at the time not sure what was going on.

Ref initially pointed for a free in and then changed his decision. Looked like someone told him he got the rule wrong.

If that is what happened though should it have not been a hop ball even though that would have been unfair on Armagh.

Mind you winning the free was a big disadvantage anyway.

Ref made three mistakes, there was no foul, clearly collected pass inside square, blew whistle for foul, realised he made mistake, good, but having blown for the foul and discussed reason he can't just change it,  different if he puts arm up for free going different direction and changes straight away, the actual rules don't allow that. And thirdly after making a balls up gives Armagh a free out when there was no free in first place, hop ball on 14 was the best case scenario but he even got that wrong.

Now bring yourself to the club games when no one is 'helping' the ref, going to be carnage

Is that right?  In the Armagh v Down Ulster Semi last year the referee awarded Armagh a free then got talked out of it and changed his mind and decided to award an earlier free.

Once the referee has given a decision and has sounded his whistle to restart play, he shall not alter that decision. This looked like that?

[David McKeown]

What happened with Rafferty  saving the  shot late on?

Defender then  passed it back to him in the square,  but play was stopped.  Armagh got a  Free.

What was that about?

Didn't see the incident myself but keepers can receive a pass in their own square, if the player passing the ball is also in the square

Rafferty seemed to be doing serious giving off about it at the time not sure what was going on.

Ref initially pointed for a free in and then changed his decision. Looked like someone told him he got the rule wrong.

If that is what happened though should it have not been a hop ball even though that would have been unfair on Armagh.

Mind you winning the free was a big disadvantage anyway.

Ref made three mistakes, there was no foul, clearly collected pass inside square, blew whistle for foul, realised he made mistake, good, but having blown for the foul and discussed reason he can't just change it,  different if he puts arm up for free going different direction and changes straight away, the actual rules don't allow that. And thirdly after making a balls up gives Armagh a free out when there was no free in first place, hop ball on 14 was the best case scenario but he even got that wrong.

Now bring yourself to the club games when no one is 'helping' the ref, going to be carnage

Is that right?  In the Armagh v Down Ulster Semi last year the referee awarded Armagh a free then got talked out of it and changed his mind and decided to award an earlier free.

Once the referee has given a decision and has sounded his whistle to restart play, he shall not alter that decision. This looked like that?

Last year there looked like a foul on a Down player but the referee didn't give the play continued for several seconds and an Armagh player (Murnin I think) was fouled.  The referee awarded the free kick before Armagh could take it Sean Hurson who was the linesman called the referee over and the referee awarded a free kick to Down.  It was widely assumed at the time it was for the original foul the referee had decided was not a foul. I can't remember anyone at the time suggesting it was against the rules although it might have been said I just don't remember.

Last night looked similar in that the referee clearly blew his whistle and awarded a free in only to stop a few seconds later then change his mind and award a free out (although I couldn't see any reason why a free out should have been awarded)

[on the sideline]

What happened with Rafferty  saving the  shot late on?

Defender then  passed it back to him in the square,  but play was stopped.  Armagh got a  Free.

What was that about?

Didn't see the incident myself but keepers can receive a pass in their own square, if the player passing the ball is also in the square

Rafferty seemed to be doing serious giving off about it at the time not sure what was going on.

Ref initially pointed for a free in and then changed his decision. Looked like someone told him he got the rule wrong.

If that is what happened though should it have not been a hop ball even though that would have been unfair on Armagh.

Mind you winning the free was a big disadvantage anyway.

Ref made three mistakes, there was no foul, clearly collected pass inside square, blew whistle for foul, realised he made mistake, good, but having blown for the foul and discussed reason he can't just change it,  different if he puts arm up for free going different direction and changes straight away, the actual rules don't allow that. And thirdly after making a balls up gives Armagh a free out when there was no free in first place, hop ball on 14 was the best case scenario but he even got that wrong.

Now bring yourself to the club games when no one is 'helping' the ref, going to be carnage

Is that right?  In the Armagh v Down Ulster Semi last year the referee awarded Armagh a free then got talked out of it and changed his mind and decided to award an earlier free.

Once the referee has given a decision and has sounded his whistle to restart play, he shall not alter that decision. This looked like that?

Last year there looked like a foul on a Down player but the referee didn't give the play continued for several seconds and an Armagh player (Murnin I think) was fouled.  The referee awarded the free kick before Armagh could take it Sean Hurson who was the linesman called the referee over and the referee awarded a free kick to Down.  It was widely assumed at the time it was for the original foul the referee had decided was not a foul. I can't remember anyone at the time suggesting it was against the rules although it might have been said I just don't remember.

Last night looked similar in that the referee clearly blew his whistle and awarded a free in only to stop a few seconds later then change his mind and award a free out (although I couldn't see any reason why a free out should have been awarded)

Haven't seen the incident, but did the player who passed it to Rafferty win possession inside the penalty box and if so did he pass directly to Rafferty? If so all is fine.

He can't carry it in and then pass to the keeper or win it inside the box, give it to someone else who then gives it to gk, he must do it himself directly.