Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[Armagh18]

The season ticket cap isnt overly high I don't think, what does Corrigan hold?

[SaffronSports]

As I see it, Ulster/GAA should be capping season tickets if there's a possibility that not all possible grounds can take the amount of tickets sold. Only sport in the world where this nonsense would happen. Imagine Celtic telling Dundee we have too many season tickets so you'll have to play us somewhere else.

They are capped Saffron. The anomaly of a sold out season ticket county having to play in Corrigan was just never factored in.

So is that the GAA or Ulster's fault? Clearly not Antrim's.

[93-DY-SAM]

Just right. Home advantage is home advantage, as annoying as it will be for all the supporters who miss out

I agree. But  ticket sales are more important,  it seems

Now, clearly ticket sales are valuable as revenue can be put to good use. But beyond that the GAA is a community organisation, people should be welcome to come along to games and a handful of people should not be allowed determine whether thousands of others should be allowed attend. Louth played their home games in Inniskeen last year, why should Antrim be more important than Louth?

But where do you  draw the line?

Let's say Armagh ,as current AI champions, drew Tyrone. Not sure of  capacity of Athletic grounds, but let's  say the demand was clearly more (say 40-50k). Should Armagh  lose home advantage, and play the game in Croke Park? Just  so a few more thousand could go?

And the  revenue from extra ticket sales would surely  boost  both counties, would it not?

I would say you draw the line by guaranteeing that season ticket holders ticket quantities are met.
Now, as far as I'm aware nothing stipulates that anywhere and so it'll be hard to use as an argument in this instance.
But it should set the future precedent:

Can your home venue accomodate the season ticket quantities of the teams involved?
Yes
Ok, home advantage it is, remaining tickets will be on general sale or through the clubs.

No
Sorry, home advantage must be forfeited

This is the self-entitlement I'm talking about!

[Spiderlegs]

As I see it, Ulster/GAA should be capping season tickets if there's a possibility that not all possible grounds can take the amount of tickets sold. Only sport in the world where this nonsense would happen. Imagine Celtic telling Dundee we have too many season tickets so you'll have to play us somewhere else.

They are capped Saffron. The anomaly of a sold out season ticket county having to play in Corrigan was just never factored in.

So is that the GAA or Ulster's fault? Clearly not Antrim's.

Definitely not Antrim's fault

[Spiderlegs]

Just right. Home advantage is home advantage, as annoying as it will be for all the supporters who miss out

I agree. But  ticket sales are more important,  it seems

Now, clearly ticket sales are valuable as revenue can be put to good use. But beyond that the GAA is a community organisation, people should be welcome to come along to games and a handful of people should not be allowed determine whether thousands of others should be allowed attend. Louth played their home games in Inniskeen last year, why should Antrim be more important than Louth?

But where do you  draw the line?

Let's say Armagh ,as current AI champions, drew Tyrone. Not sure of  capacity of Athletic grounds, but let's  say the demand was clearly more (say 40-50k). Should Armagh  lose home advantage, and play the game in Croke Park? Just  so a few more thousand could go?

And the  revenue from extra ticket sales would surely  boost  both counties, would it not?

I would say you draw the line by guaranteeing that season ticket holders ticket quantities are met.
Now, as far as I'm aware nothing stipulates that anywhere and so it'll be hard to use as an argument in this instance.
But it should set the future precedent:

Can your home venue accomodate the season ticket quantities of the teams involved?
Yes
Ok, home advantage it is, remaining tickets will be on general sale or through the clubs.

No
Sorry, home advantage must be forfeited

This is the self-entitlement I'm talking about!

Just to be clear here boss, although I'm Armagh, I'm siding with the Antrim players/management in this case.

But if this goes ahead in Corrigan, what I think is most likely to happen is Armagh will get most season tickets fulfilled and Antrim will get a few hundred ...For a home game!!!
That's near more unfair on Antrim supporters than anyone else.

I'm a season ticket holder and I don't feel entitled at all for this game, if I miss out so be it, I understand the reasons.
But the wider issue isn't addressed and it shouldn't be coming to this - I'm sure you would have to agree with that?

[Armagh18]

Just right. Home advantage is home advantage, as annoying as it will be for all the supporters who miss out

I agree. But  ticket sales are more important,  it seems

Now, clearly ticket sales are valuable as revenue can be put to good use. But beyond that the GAA is a community organisation, people should be welcome to come along to games and a handful of people should not be allowed determine whether thousands of others should be allowed attend. Louth played their home games in Inniskeen last year, why should Antrim be more important than Louth?

But where do you  draw the line?

Let's say Armagh ,as current AI champions, drew Tyrone. Not sure of  capacity of Athletic grounds, but let's  say the demand was clearly more (say 40-50k). Should Armagh  lose home advantage, and play the game in Croke Park? Just  so a few more thousand could go?

And the  revenue from extra ticket sales would surely  boost  both counties, would it not?

I would say you draw the line by guaranteeing that season ticket holders ticket quantities are met.
Now, as far as I'm aware nothing stipulates that anywhere and so it'll be hard to use as an argument in this instance.
But it should set the future precedent:

Can your home venue accomodate the season ticket quantities of the teams involved?
Yes
Ok, home advantage it is, remaining tickets will be on general sale or through the clubs.

No
Sorry, home advantage must be forfeited

This is the self-entitlement I'm talking about!

Just to be clear here boss, although I'm Armagh, I'm siding with the Antrim players/management in this case.

But if this goes ahead in Corrigan, what I think is most likely to happen is Armagh will get most season tickets fulfilled and Antrim will get a few hundred ...For a home game!!!
That's near more unfair on Antrim supporters than anyone else.

I'm a season ticket holder and I don't feel entitled at all for this game, if I miss out so be it, I understand the reasons.
But the wider issue isn't addressed and it shouldn't be coming to this - I'm sure you would have to agree with that?

Wider issue being build Casement?

[93-DY-SAM]

Just right. Home advantage is home advantage, as annoying as it will be for all the supporters who miss out

I agree. But  ticket sales are more important,  it seems

Now, clearly ticket sales are valuable as revenue can be put to good use. But beyond that the GAA is a community organisation, people should be welcome to come along to games and a handful of people should not be allowed determine whether thousands of others should be allowed attend. Louth played their home games in Inniskeen last year, why should Antrim be more important than Louth?

But where do you  draw the line?

Let's say Armagh ,as current AI champions, drew Tyrone. Not sure of  capacity of Athletic grounds, but let's  say the demand was clearly more (say 40-50k). Should Armagh  lose home advantage, and play the game in Croke Park? Just  so a few more thousand could go?

And the  revenue from extra ticket sales would surely  boost  both counties, would it not?

I would say you draw the line by guaranteeing that season ticket holders ticket quantities are met.
Now, as far as I'm aware nothing stipulates that anywhere and so it'll be hard to use as an argument in this instance.
But it should set the future precedent:

Can your home venue accomodate the season ticket quantities of the teams involved?
Yes
Ok, home advantage it is, remaining tickets will be on general sale or through the clubs.

No
Sorry, home advantage must be forfeited

This is the self-entitlement I'm talking about!

Just to be clear here boss, although I'm Armagh, I'm siding with the Antrim players/management in this case.

But if this goes ahead in Corrigan, what I think is most likely to happen is Armagh will get most season tickets fulfilled and Antrim will get a few hundred ...For a home game!!!
That's near more unfair on Antrim supporters than anyone else.

I'm a season ticket holder and I don't feel entitled at all for this game, if I miss out so be it, I understand the reasons.
But the wider issue isn't addressed and it shouldn't be coming to this - I'm sure you would have to agree with that?

Not sure what you mean about the wider issue. The real issue is the Ulster Council have made a complete balls of Casement and left Antrim in this position. Now they are trying to dictate to Antrim about where they can and can't play which games. That's on the Ulster Council, not Antrim.

[Spiderlegs]

Just right. Home advantage is home advantage, as annoying as it will be for all the supporters who miss out

I agree. But  ticket sales are more important,  it seems

Now, clearly ticket sales are valuable as revenue can be put to good use. But beyond that the GAA is a community organisation, people should be welcome to come along to games and a handful of people should not be allowed determine whether thousands of others should be allowed attend. Louth played their home games in Inniskeen last year, why should Antrim be more important than Louth?

But where do you  draw the line?

Let's say Armagh ,as current AI champions, drew Tyrone. Not sure of  capacity of Athletic grounds, but let's  say the demand was clearly more (say 40-50k). Should Armagh  lose home advantage, and play the game in Croke Park? Just  so a few more thousand could go?

And the  revenue from extra ticket sales would surely  boost  both counties, would it not?

I would say you draw the line by guaranteeing that season ticket holders ticket quantities are met.
Now, as far as I'm aware nothing stipulates that anywhere and so it'll be hard to use as an argument in this instance.
But it should set the future precedent:

Can your home venue accomodate the season ticket quantities of the teams involved?
Yes
Ok, home advantage it is, remaining tickets will be on general sale or through the clubs.

No
Sorry, home advantage must be forfeited

This is the self-entitlement I'm talking about!

Just to be clear here boss, although I'm Armagh, I'm siding with the Antrim players/management in this case.

But if this goes ahead in Corrigan, what I think is most likely to happen is Armagh will get most season tickets fulfilled and Antrim will get a few hundred ...For a home game!!!
That's near more unfair on Antrim supporters than anyone else.

I'm a season ticket holder and I don't feel entitled at all for this game, if I miss out so be it, I understand the reasons.
But the wider issue isn't addressed and it shouldn't be coming to this - I'm sure you would have to agree with that?

Not sure what you mean about the wider issue. The real issue is the Ulster Council have made a complete balls of Casement and left Antrim in this position. Now they are trying to dictate to Antrim about where they can and can't play which games. That's on the Ulster Council, not Antrim.

Yes, that wider issue.
And whilst Casement remains an absolute mess, the GAA authorities should have been all over building/exteding/renovating aground in Antrim to accommodate around 10-12k, at which point you never hear a word again from any season ticket holder, or for anyone else for that matter.

There's no blame being attached to Antrim here.

[thewobbler]

I'm no fan of the GAA's endeavours to fill the country with white elephant stadia.

Nor do I suffer from the average GAA fan's obsession with marketing and continually growing the game.

But I do firmly believe that county championship is what makes GAA such a unique and wondrous association. And wanting home advantage for such an occasion is just not reason enough for tens of thousands of GAA people to miss out on attending.

[Rossfan]

Season ticket cap is 3,500 I think?

[tonto1888]

I'm no fan of the GAA's endeavours to fill the country with white elephant stadia.

Nor do I suffer from the average GAA fan's obsession with marketing and continually growing the game.

But I do firmly believe that county championship is what makes GAA such a unique and wondrous association. And wanting home advantage for such an occasion is just not reason enough for tens of thousands of GAA people to miss out on attending.

Why bother with a home and away draw in the first place then? Why not say at the outset all games will be in neutral venues

[statto]

FFS, just play out a draw and then take it back to the Athletic Grounds.

Sure it goes to extra time and penalties

Penalties is now gone under new rules. 

[Armagh18]

FFS, just play out a draw and then take it back to the Athletic Grounds.

Sure it goes to extra time and penalties

Penalties is now gone under new rules. 

Good man Jarlath lol

[statto]

Some interesting points raised here, personally as an Armagh man, I think that Antrim have every right to dig their heels in on this one they were drew out first and deserve to be at home.  The GAA have dropped the ball with the whole season ticket here as stated above. 

[statto]

FFS, just play out a draw and then take it back to the Athletic Grounds.

Sure it goes to extra time and penalties

Penalties is now gone under new rules. 

Good man Jarlath lol

The no penalties has went somewhat under the radar, I actually think the new concept there can be little or no complaints about who the best side was on day.  Regards Jim G