Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[ONeill]

I take it the linesmen have responsibility for monitoring the 3 forwards rule?

[Lucifer]

It is the referees responsibility however I am sure the linesmen will have a role to play also.

MR2 did you find much issue in dealing with this?  Initially I think it will be relatively straightforward as teams will largely stick to a set 3 players inside the half (i.e. not neccesarily the same 3 all the time, but 3 will be nominated in any given period of the game and any deviance will require clear communication that will be relatively obvious.)  The risk of a 20m free in front of the posts for an infraction is just too much for anyone to try to dupe a referee or gain an intentional advantage. 

What could be difficult for a referee is when a player is "carrying, receiving or intercepting" right at the halfway line and you've simultaneously got to see if the player is crossing the line and whether other players have moved into the space to facilitate that or not.  It will be infrequent but marginal calls will be difficult to get right.  At least the punishment for this is not as severe and only a free from the position of the infraction (or a throw up if both foul simultaneously.)  I don't think people should get too hung up on that either, it will be a rare occurrence and referees will become savvier with experience. 

Referees need to be given some discretion in terms of the intention of the player. If they cross the halfway line but have not effected the play and return back into position asap then why penalise them?  I think there is some allowance given for this, or at least it was considered?  A very strict application of the rule might appear a good idea to help embed the rule, however I believe over time this will only lead to more problems.  Teams will start to develop strategies to try to dupe an infraction from the defending team and this would become a game in itself! 

[Milltown Row2]

I'd only one occasion of a player leaving the halfway line, but it was made aware to me, by the time I looked round, as I was following the play, all 6 were back in position.

Linesmen can't call frees, they can only help when asked, and during club games it'll be the ref on his own to work out.

Never got to bring the ball 50 meters though, no doubt that'll happen more when the games have more to them than just challenge games

Was confused more on what the keeper can and can't do, that will catch teams out at the start of the year

[DuffleKing]

I'd only one occasion of a player leaving the halfway line, but it was made aware to me, by the time I looked round, as I was following the play, all 6 were back in position.

Linesmen can't call frees, they can only help when asked, and during club games it'll be the ref on his own to work out.

Never got to bring the ball 50 meters though, no doubt that'll happen more when the games have more to them than just challenge games

Was confused more on what the keeper can and can't do, that will catch teams out at the start of the year

The bit in bold is out of date. It is very clear that linesmen have responsibiluty for managing 3 up and will be shouting for the whistle in a ref's ear at IC level.

[Milltown Row2]

I'd only one occasion of a player leaving the halfway line, but it was made aware to me, by the time I looked round, as I was following the play, all 6 were back in position.

Linesmen can't call frees, they can only help when asked, and during club games it'll be the ref on his own to work out.

Never got to bring the ball 50 meters though, no doubt that'll happen more when the games have more to them than just challenge games

Was confused more on what the keeper can and can't do, that will catch teams out at the start of the year

The bit in bold is out of date. It is very clear that linesmen have responsibiluty for managing 3 up and will be shouting for the whistle in a ref's ear at IC level.

Yes that 1% of our games will probably be best looked after, the 99% of our games though will barely have the pitch up to standards

[Rossfan]

Lines might be hard to see as well especially the silly 40m arc.

[Captain Obvious]

Well be some craic with the new rules with fog.  Glen v Kilmacud Crokes last January springs to mind.

[DuffleKing]

I'd only one occasion of a player leaving the halfway line, but it was made aware to me, by the time I looked round, as I was following the play, all 6 were back in position.

Linesmen can't call frees, they can only help when asked, and during club games it'll be the ref on his own to work out.

Never got to bring the ball 50 meters though, no doubt that'll happen more when the games have more to them than just challenge games

Was confused more on what the keeper can and can't do, that will catch teams out at the start of the year

The bit in bold is out of date. It is very clear that linesmen have responsibiluty for managing 3 up and will be shouting for the whistle in a ref's ear at IC level.

Yes that 1% of our games will probably be best looked after, the 99% of our games though will barely have the pitch up to standards

I don't see anyone disagreeing with you there boss

[ONeill]

Bit confused here. So you're saying linesmen can't tell you it's a free?

[Milltown Row2]

Bit confused here. So you're saying linesmen can't tell you it's a free?

Never could

[ONeill]

So if you're dealing with play in and around the square, and there are 1-3 of the designated players over the halfway line, the linesman can't tell you?

[Milltown Row2]

So if you're dealing with play in and around the square, and there are 1-3 of the designated players over the halfway line, the linesman can't tell you?

Unless that's changed in the new rules, the linesman has to stay with play, also he might not get to see that situation

Also 99% of our games we don't have linesmen

Ref's would need to be mic'd up for every game to have use of a linesman helping out. Just not possible

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Excuse me but can we please start calling them by their proper title - line umpires.

[Saffron_sam20]

So if you're dealing with play in and around the square, and there are 1-3 of the designated players over the halfway line, the linesman can't tell you?

Unless that's changed in the new rules, the linesman has to stay with play, also he might not get to see that situation

Also 99% of our games we don't have linesmen

Ref's would need to be mic'd up for every game to have use of a linesman helping out. Just not possible

This really is going to be a disaster at club level isn't it? Who'd be a ref eh

[Milltown Row2]

Excuse me but can we please start calling them by their proper title - line umpires.

Something I'm hearing more and more of is Lino! Is that a soccer thing?