Things that make you go What the F**k?

[Wildweasel74]

If the child was missing, how come the mother not on appealing for witnesses? How come she has not been interviewed  as a person of interest, seems to show no emotion to the situation at all. How she allowed to swanny around another jurisdiction undettered if there's serious questions to be answered. Who notified the child has been missing, as it does not seem to have been the mother?

[marty34]

Did a lad, who was questioned about this case, not pass away last week. I think I read that.

Strange case indeed.

I remember reading somewhere saying they told the school they were moving to Newry or something? Then, as another jurisdiction, the Dept. of Education has no follow up etc.

I suppose families do move and no one really, outside the close family,have any dealings with them again.

A very sad case.

[Armagh18]

Did a lad, who was questioned about this case, not pass away last week. I think I read that.

Strange case indeed.

I remember reading somewhere saying they told the school they were moving to Newry or something? Then, as another jurisdiction, the Dept. of Education has no follow up etc.

I suppose families do move and no one really, outside the close family,have any dealings with them again.

A very sad case.

He had been arrested, relased without charge and killed himself.

[armaghniac]

That situation with the young lad in Drogheda, situations seems extremely  vague. Who reported the child missing? Who's last seen with the child. What's the mother swanning around Ipswich undeterred or worried, was she ever arrested or interviewed about this?

The BBC NI Spotlight programme was informative and shocking.
The boys' father was trying to secure visitation and Tusla were investigating and the mother brought another child in for interview and passed him off, but suspicions remained. The mother went to England and the grandmother then reported the child missing. She then went on a local Drogheda podcast and reported her "concern" about the missing boy, from the Spotlight programme she knew the podcaster slightly and lied through her teeth to him, who was only trying to help.
I'm not sure what has happened lately. 

[AustinPowers]

Did I not hear that  it was  said  the boy went to live with his dad  in Newry?

Is there not  some sort of cross border  agency to check this  out? ie. Joe Blogs registered at a school in Drogheda , we just want to check  he's registered in a school in Newry

I remember watching a  documentary about Fred and Rose West.  Fred had a child with another woman, the child  stayed with  the Wests and Rose killed the child while Fred was inside. School authority came to house asking why the child hadn't been to school.  Rose said she'd gone  back to Scotland to live with  the  mother (Fred had earlier murdered the mother). In reality, the child was buried in  the back garden.

Anyway, the authorities were criticised for  not chasing this up. They should have checked where the child ended up, which school etc. They just  accepted Rose's explanation and nothing more was done .

Apparently this happened in early 1970's, and  if it  had have been properly investigated,  and the West's arrested, countless women wouldn't  have been murdered in the  subsequent 20 odd years

[armaghniac]

Did I not hear that  it was  said  the boy went to live with his dad  in Newry?

Is there not  some sort of cross border  agency to check this  out? ie. Joe Blogs registered at a school in Drogheda , we just want to check  he's registered in a school in Newry

I remember watching a  documentary about Fred and Rose West.  Fred had a child with another woman, the child  stayed with  the Wests and Rose killed the child while Fred was inside. School authority came to house asking why the child hadn't been to school.  Rose said she'd gone  back to Scotland to live with  the  mother (Fred had earlier murdered the mother). In reality, the child was buried in  the back garden.

Anyway, the authorities were criticised for  not chasing this up. They should have checked where the child ended up, which school etc. They just  accepted Rose's explanation and nothing more was done .

Apparently this happened in early 1970's, and  if it  had have been properly investigated,  and the West's arrested, countless women wouldn't  have been murdered in the  subsequent 20 odd years

The man he was supposed to have lived with in Newry was not the boys' father, although maybe he was the father of another child. He was interviewed and knew nothing about the arrangement.

But there should be a system across Europe to record if a child has arrived successfully in another system, it need not be too complex just a "he's here and we are responsible for him now". In the short term we should ensure that happens on this island as soon as possible and politicians of all shades need to ensure this.

[Delgany 2nds]

There is a system in place that tracks missing children, managed by Education Welfare Office, for UK & Ireland.
UK schools will contact new school directly, a receiving school will contact previous school. In this case, the little child wasn't missed by the authorities.

[Wildweasel74]

Here i ask a simple question, why have they Garda not requested the girls extradition/ arrested, to be interviewed about this, That what beats me, especially if she tried to fool authorities, with another child, theirs deception to conceal a possible crime straight off!

[Captain Obvious]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/12/24/gay-couple-raped-adopted-boys-100-years-prison-atlanta/

[Tony Baloney]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/12/24/gay-couple-raped-adopted-boys-100-years-prison-atlanta/

It's not often the criminal justice system in America deserves praise but this is one example. They'd have got a much lighter touch over here.

I could think of a quicker and less financially burdensome solution.

[From the Bunker]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/12/24/gay-couple-raped-adopted-boys-100-years-prison-atlanta/

It's not often the criminal justice system in America deserves praise but this is one example. They'd have got a much lighter touch over here.

I could think of a quicker and less financially burdensome solution.

They have done untold damage to the name of legitimate same sex couples who could offer love and support to adopted Children. A lost of trust.

[JoG2]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/12/24/gay-couple-raped-adopted-boys-100-years-prison-atlanta/

It's not often the criminal justice system in America deserves praise but this is one example. They'd have got a much lighter touch over here.

I could think of a quicker and less financially burdensome solution.

They have done untold damage to the name of legitimate same sex couples who could offer love and support to adopted Children. A lost of trust.

Eh? If this had been a heterosexual couple, would they have done untold damage to other heterosexual couples looking to adopt?

[Armagh18]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/12/24/gay-couple-raped-adopted-boys-100-years-prison-atlanta/

It's not often the criminal justice system in America deserves praise but this is one example. They'd have got a much lighter touch over here.

I could think of a quicker and less financially burdensome solution.

They have done untold damage to the name of legitimate same sex couples who could offer love and support to adopted Children. A lost of trust.

Eh? If this had been a heterosexual couple, would they have done untold damage to other heterosexual couples looking to adopt?

No, but you know the point thats being made. Clowns who would be against gay couples adopting will use it as an excuse which is vile tbh, but it will happen.

Obviously, children can be abused by gay or straight couples, gay or straight people can be evil bastards regardless.

[armaghniac]

Obviously, children can be abused by gay or straight couples, gay or straight people can be evil bastards regardless.

The character of abuse by a normal couple would not be the same. However the present woke nonsense means that there will be no proper discussion of this issue, children's interests do not get a look in.

[imtommygunn]

You kind of laid your prejudices out there by saying "normal" couple...