Antrim Football Thread

[Spike]

Does anyone know the attendance on Sunday?  The allocation for kids was sold out which bodes well for future interest

[Take the Mark]

Would anyone like to hear Ghost + Tommy review his 'clubmate' in the middle? I know I would 

[InnocentByStander]

Can say what you want about the game but the bottom line is.

Cargin know how to win, PG1 don't.

2009 apparently the last time PG1 ever beat Cargin, they will have to wait another few months to try again

[Saffron_sam20]

Quick question, are we due a New Jersey this year? Nephew looking the saffron jersey for his birthday but don't want to buy it if there's a new one coming out

[imtommygunn]

Can say what you want about the game but the bottom line is.

Cargin know how to win, PG1 don't.

2009 apparently the last time PG1 ever beat Cargin, they will have to wait another few months to try again

That is really the crux of it for me. P.S. Both teams were at the systematic fouling. There's definite Tyrone / Derry influence in both teams 

Not sure on the jersies.

[NorthAntrim]

Quick question, are we due a New Jersey this year? Nephew looking the saffron jersey for his birthday but don't want to buy it if there's a new one coming out

Yes

[Would ye whist]

I think if we are honest and hold our hands up as a club a few fair us of probably believe the ball was not out and the goal probably should have stood, saying that I still would have fancied us to win the game.

I am sorry to bang on about standard of officials, however I heard it from a good source last night that the referee in charge does not have a settled set of umpires and anytime he is out he has a gather up of men (he is not the only one from what I was told.) Surely like all teams you would expect the ref to have a set of umpires he regularly works with, they know what he likes/dislikes and they all understand the brief, not just who is available on any given day or indeed looking in free to watch a match??

[Spike]

Whether the ball was out or not is up for debate.  Thats up to the ref or umpire to make their call. maybe it was in, maybe not, difficult to see from my angle or on the Stream but a close call either way.  Certainly not clear.

Whats not up for debate is that the referee clearly blew his whistle early and the players stopped. kicking a ball into an unguarded net to me is not controversial.  Wasn't even a topic of discussion at the game.

Is there a brief required to be given to umpires other than perhaps jersey pulling? Sounds like a simple enough job with a bit of focus required for giving 45s and Square Balls 

[Hectic]

Treasa's badly beat in intermediate, 17 points. surely Dunloy, Moneyglass or St Endas won't be happy to give up a place in senior to them

No vehicle for that to happen anyway.

As it stands it looks like Dunloy will be senior again next year.

Anything else is not written into the regulations so would be up for debate.

But Intermediate this year was half way to Junior so I'd be surprised if St Teresa's even wanted to go senior next year.  Ballymena will probably struggle to make much impact on senior championship next year and they were miles ahead of St Teresa's.

[Gael-in-exile]

I haven't seen the game, but there's plenty of to and fro here to make it sound more interesting that the scoreline would suggest.

Officials get a hard time, some can be bad at their job but they volunteer a lot of time and to describe it as thankless would be an understatement as sometimes it's a calling to get abused.
I always believed that you have to work around referees, some are tight on things, others not etc. As a player and manager you learn how they operate and should be able to deal with it.
Some clubs are better than others at this.

Unless they ref is downright rude/ignorant/abusive towards players and coaches or they just fail to protect players then I have never felt the need to blame them for a loss.
That's not to say I've felt some decisions could've changed a game, but so can those made by players and managers.

However unless there is a clear error, such as we thought was the case in LD v  Creggan (and will never know as the evidence produced has never be made public) I don't think they deserve the abuse. Especially some going directly to them after games.

I would assume it is the losers in this case but all clubs have some negative history with officials so if I was to be told it was the champions I wouldn't be surprised either.

[Spike]

Treasa's badly beat in intermediate, 17 points. surely Dunloy, Moneyglass or St Endas won't be happy to give up a place in senior to them

No vehicle for that to happen anyway.

As it stands it looks like Dunloy will be senior again next year.

Anything else is not written into the regulations so would be up for debate.

But Intermediate this year was half way to Junior so I'd be surprised if St Teresa's even wanted to go senior next year.  Ballymena will probably struggle to make much impact on senior championship next year and they were miles ahead of St Teresa's.

It doesnt sound right that we still don't know clearly who is playing Senior or Intermediate Championship next season.

[Hectic]

Somebody here said there was evidence that proves the ball was not out.  Does anyone have this video?

I thought it looked tight from a central position but they always do unless you are well elevated where you might get a bit of a better view.

But the only way to truly tell is if you are looking across the line and I don't know how many had that vantage point.

[imtommygunn]

I think if we are honest and hold our hands up as a club a few fair us of probably believe the ball was not out and the goal probably should have stood, saying that I still would have fancied us to win the game.

I am sorry to bang on about standard of officials, however I heard it from a good source last night that the referee in charge does not have a settled set of umpires and anytime he is out he has a gather up of men (he is not the only one from what I was told.) Surely like all teams you would expect the ref to have a set of umpires he regularly works with, they know what he likes/dislikes and they all understand the brief, not just who is available on any given day or indeed looking in free to watch a match??

The umpire signalled wide though. I think players even stopped as spike said. No real debate about it for me. You couldn't blame the ref in any way there either. It doesn't matter if the ball was out,

FWIW I thought the ref was a bit harsh on PG1 and then kept them in it at the end of normal time so almost balanced it out.

[BigGreenField]

Can say what you want about the game but the bottom line is.

Cargin know how to win, PG1 don't.

2009 apparently the last time PG1 ever beat Cargin, they will have to wait another few months to try again

That is really the crux of it for me. P.S. Both teams were at the systematic fouling. There's definite Tyrone / Derry influence in both teams 

Not sure on the jersies.

Rotational fouling is a blight on the game , don't think it gets a card for an accumulation of offences (although some ref's do)

As the game becomes even more structured could learn from the rugby lads on dealing with it.

[imtommygunn]

I think if we are honest and hold our hands up as a club a few fair us of probably believe the ball was not out and the goal probably should have stood, saying that I still would have fancied us to win the game.

I am sorry to bang on about standard of officials, however I heard it from a good source last night that the referee in charge does not have a settled set of umpires and anytime he is out he has a gather up of men (he is not the only one from what I was told.) Surely like all teams you would expect the ref to have a set of umpires he regularly works with, they know what he likes/dislikes and they all understand the brief, not just who is available on any given day or indeed looking in free to watch a match??

The umpire signalled wide though. I think players even stopped as spike said. No real debate about it for me. You couldn't blame the ref in any way there either. It doesn't matter if the ball was out or not - the umpire said it was and that's that really.

FWIW I thought the ref was a bit harsh on PG1 and then kept them in it at the end of normal time so almost balanced it out.