9/11 What really happened to WT7?

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johnnycool

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Quote from: johnnycool on September 16, 2024, 05:24:09 PM911 conspiracy theories aside what I find strangest is that they went and invaded Afghanistan when all along these lads were almost to a man Saudis...Hardline Wahhabi Islamists.

Why not invade Saudi Arabia?



I guess the logic was that the hijackers were affiliated with Al Qaeda, who were hosted by the Taliban, not the Saudi government.

And then you obviously throw in the oil market and the ties between certain Saudis and certain Americans.

The Afghan war is not seen as controversial in the US.

The Iraq war now is, including, ironically, by much of the right, despite them using it as a massive electoral and cultural cudgel against the left for 15 years. Remember freedom fries, Hans Blix, "cheese-eating surrender monkeys" (the French), John Kerry "looks French" (I shit you not - Fox News was pushing this). The utter hatred directed towards the Dixie Chicks, Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan etc?

Makes you wonder if they'll look back with regret at Trump by the time we get to 2040. Although I'm not sure any of them actually "regret" their rhetoric and conduct concerning the Iraq war.

I remember all that back then. Freedom fries - absolutely nuts.

Al Qaeda where the remnants of the Mujahedeen, the US backed to the balls with guns and training during the Russian invasion of Afghanistan and were as much based in Pakistan as Afghanistan and once again heavily reliant on Saudi recruits. Guess which one has a nuclear arsenal?

If I was Iran or Iraq I'd be busting my balls to get my hands on nuclear weapons too.

Bin Laden himself is from one of the richest families in Saudi, owners of Bin Telecoms, who the likes of Bechtel (very large US Engineering firm) did a lot of work with. The Bin Ladens were and probably still are major shareholders in Lockhead Martin, purveyors of fine death instruments.

Ever think you're getting played?

Every hour  of every day we're being played

Another thing ,  didn't the US (and many others)  boycott  the Moscow Olympics because Russia invaded Afghanistan? 

Funny, I don't remember  anyone boycotting world cups or  Olympics  after the US led invasions of Afghanistan in 2001 (or Iraq in 2003)

Why did the Soviets invade Afghanistan?

There was little opposition to the US invasion of Afghanistan. After 9/11, it was mostly seen as justified as it was a safe haven for Al Qaeda. The 2002 Winter Olympics in Utah were not controversial for that reason.

Iraq... the likes of Blair went along with the weapons of mass destruction nonsense, but there was a huge amount of popular opposition and protests around the world, unlike the Afghan war.

But none of the Olympics or WC of that period were held in the US.

Because the moderate Afghani Gov of the time asked them to because of the religious nut jobs wanting to roll back on a lot of the progress they'd made and boy do the Russians/Soviets regret that!


AustinPowers

Quote from: J70 on September 17, 2024, 10:39:05 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on September 17, 2024, 10:03:51 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 17, 2024, 08:29:42 AM
Quote from: Simon OParlon on September 17, 2024, 08:18:42 AM
Quote from: J70 on September 16, 2024, 05:40:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 16, 2024, 05:24:09 PM911 conspiracy theories aside what I find strangest is that they went and invaded Afghanistan when all along these lads were almost to a man Saudis...Hardline Wahhabi Islamists.

Why not invade Saudi Arabia?



I guess the logic was that the hijackers were affiliated with Al Qaeda, who were hosted by the Taliban, not the Saudi government.

And then you obviously throw in the oil market and the ties between certain Saudis and certain Americans.

The Afghan war is not seen as controversial in the US.

The Iraq war now is, including, ironically, by much of the right, despite them using it as a massive electoral and cultural cudgel against the left for 15 years. Remember freedom fries, Hans Blix, "cheese-eating surrender monkeys" (the French), John Kerry "looks French" (I shit you not - Fox News was pushing this). The utter hatred directed towards the Dixie Chicks, Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan etc?

Makes you wonder if they'll look back with regret at Trump by the time we get to 2040. Although I'm not sure any of them actually "regret" their rhetoric and conduct concerning the Iraq war.

I remember all that back then. Freedom fries - absolutely nuts.

Al Qaeda where the remnants of the Mujahedeen, the US backed to the balls with guns and training during the Russian invasion of Afghanistan and were as much based in Pakistan as Afghanistan and once again heavily reliant on Saudi recruits. Guess which one has a nuclear arsenal?

If I was Iran or Iraq I'd be busting my balls to get my hands on nuclear weapons too.

Bin Laden himself is from one of the richest families in Saudi, owners of Bin Telecoms, who the likes of Bechtel (very large US Engineering firm) did a lot of work with. The Bin Ladens were and probably still are major shareholders in Lockhead Martin, purveyors of fine death instruments.

Ever think you're getting played?

Every hour  of every day we're being played

Another thing ,  didn't the US (and many others)  boycott  the Moscow Olympics because Russia invaded Afghanistan? 

Funny, I don't remember  anyone boycotting world cups or  Olympics  after the US led invasions of Afghanistan in 2001 (or Iraq in 2003)

Why did the Soviets invade Afghanistan?

There was little opposition to the US invasion of Afghanistan. After 9/11, it was mostly seen as justified as it was a safe haven for Al Qaeda. The 2002 Winter Olympics in Utah were not controversial for that reason.

Iraq... the likes of Blair went along with the weapons of mass destruction nonsense, but there was a huge amount of popular opposition and protests around the world, unlike the Afghan war.

But none of the Olympics or WC of that period were held in the US.

True, the big events  weren't in the US, but  they  should have been threw out of Eurovision at least  ;)

I remember  a while after the Afghanistan invasion thinking,  if this was the IRA who attacked  London, it would be like the British army bombing the shit out of Ireland, from Malin to Mizen,  to take out a  few dozen men, who could have been  on  the Skelligs or Tory island, or anywhere in the world. The Brits were dirty filthy hoors  in Ireland, but the Afghanistan invasion made  the  Brits look like pussycats in comparison.

But, as I said earlier, we are being  played everyday

Eamonnca1

Quote from: AustinPowers on September 17, 2024, 05:31:12 PMTrue, the big events  weren't in the US, but  they  should have been threw out of Eurovision at least  ;)

I remember  a while after the Afghanistan invasion thinking,  if this was the IRA who attacked  London, it would be like the British army bombing the shit out of Ireland, from Malin to Mizen,  to take out a  few dozen men, who could have been  on  the Skelligs or Tory island, or anywhere in the world. The Brits were dirty filthy hoors  in Ireland, but the Afghanistan invasion made  the  Brits look like pussycats in comparison.

But, as I said earlier, we are being  played everyday

Yeah but the Irish look like the English and even speak the same language. Even drive on the same side of the road. Not so easy to de-humanise them.

Seamus


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Quote from: samuel maguire on September 13, 2024, 03:29:59 PMOnly one possible solution.

Rebuild a replica tower

Fly a plane full of passengers into said tower

Analysis results and come to conclusion

Happy Seamus??

You need to go back to the drawing board Sammy, No plane hit World Trade Center 7
"I wish I could inspire the same confidence in the truth which is so readily accorded to lies".

Milltown Row2

No, it was an illusion, in fact if you look hard enough those buildings are still standing
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Seamus

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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 09, 2024, 10:28:28 PMWT7 collapsed, because guess  what, they hadn't decided to drop half a building on it, and have internal fire rage through it, to test if it take such damage. Just like a bad fire at Grenfell highlighted a material deficient. Never understood why rainscreen cladding hadn't External fire breaks outside floor levels anyway

So half a building falling on World Trade Center 7 was the main cause of the collapse, a 10 second collapse into its own footprint. I presume you are talking about one of WTC 1 or 2 being the instigator. That is 55 floors falling on top of WTC 7, have you video evidence of this? The official lie didn't even come up with that one.

It didn't collapse onto its own footprint. Debris was spread across a wide area. The surrounding buildings all took damage, some more than others. Building 7 was damaged enough to cause a structural failure.

Go get a hobby.

Normal protective measures could not be used as with regular controlled demolitions. Have you ever witnessed a controlled demolition of a high rise building take place? Also nanotechnology was in play (my opinion Ripple Technology, not the crypto), this explains the tons of steel flying through air and tons of concrete pulverized. Massive steel beams turned to molten lasting for months. I can speak of the steel structure and the 4 inch thickness of fireproofing surrounding each beam and gilder along with the rebar reinforced tons of concrete in WTC 7. I was a first hand witness as I worked in the construction of the building from early September 1985 to the topping off in early 1987. I was one of the first people on site after the completion of the foundation. Out of curiosity I tested the fireproofing with an oxygen acetylene torch which I'm very adapt at. Barely a spark bounced off. When WTC 7 came down in 10 or so seconds I instantly know that America was attacked from within.  NIST's final conclusion was that WTC 7 collapsed due to fires, what a load of crap.

The conspiracy goes way back and Seamus is in on it. They deliberately weakened the steel with an acetylene torch. No wonder it collapsed.

The Q Deck ceilings were also fireproofed. What a nonsensical response. The steel was not weakened by fire as per the official report. Do you know the difference between office fires and the cutting power of an oxygen acetylene torch? Yet another person clueless about construction

I would know as little about construction aa you know about reality.

Don't underestimate yourself, don't confine your lack of knowledge to just construction. You live in a false reality of lies and deception. You have plenty of company here. Most members login daily to pat each other on the back and go about their ignorant ways. When the Plandemic couldn't bring them to their senses there is little hope. The same members dancing to the same tune for years. Herd mentality is the enemy of a free society.
"I wish I could inspire the same confidence in the truth which is so readily accorded to lies".

AustinPowers

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2024, 07:14:52 PMNo, it was an illusion, in fact if you look hard enough those buildings are still standing

Dill Dandin' surely?

Seamus

Quote from: RedHand88 on September 13, 2024, 10:14:56 AMSeamus I categorically refuse to believe you were testing the WTC foundations in 1985 with an oxygen acetylene torch. You have completely made that up in order to lend false evidence to your deluded conspiracy theory.

So you are saying that I'm a liar. Everything I wrote is 100% true. There are tons of evidence available proving that 9/11 was an inside job without I having to give my first hand experience with regards the construction of the building. 

Where did I say that I was testing WTC foundations? I was on one of the upper floors, there was steel structures and fireproofing throughout that building.

Stick with your fake news for all I care 
"I wish I could inspire the same confidence in the truth which is so readily accorded to lies".

Seamus

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2024, 07:14:52 PMNo, it was an illusion, in fact if you look hard enough those buildings are still standing

It's amazing how the mind works, how did you get convinced that a plane hit WTC 7? Those false flag perpetrators know that the vast majority of the people are dumbed down and will believe everything they are spoon fed without questioning.   
"I wish I could inspire the same confidence in the truth which is so readily accorded to lies".

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Seamus on October 13, 2024, 08:08:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2024, 07:14:52 PMNo, it was an illusion, in fact if you look hard enough those buildings are still standing

It's amazing how the mind works, how did you get convinced that a plane hit WTC 7? Those false flag perpetrators know that the vast majority of the people are dumbed down and will believe everything they are spoon fed without questioning.   

Oh the irony
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Seamus

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Quote from: Seamus on October 13, 2024, 08:08:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2024, 07:14:52 PMNo, it was an illusion, in fact if you look hard enough those buildings are still standing

It's amazing how the mind works, how did you get convinced that a plane hit WTC 7? Those false flag perpetrators know that the vast majority of the people are dumbed down and will believe everything they are spoon fed without questioning.   

Oh the irony

You never question any official fary tale, fall for them hook line and sinker. So the planes that hit WTC 1 and 2 knocked off the fireproofing in WTC 7 going by one of your deluded theories. 
"I wish I could inspire the same confidence in the truth which is so readily accorded to lies".

Milltown Row2

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Seamus

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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2024, 08:33:14 PMhttps://peimpact.com/the-collapse-of-world-trade-center-building-7/

If you believe that garbage then you don't have one ounce of common sense. The only truth in that report is the location, everything else is a big lie. Every sentence a lie. NIST, just like The Warren Commission in the sixties are the gatekeepers of the crime. 

Going by their report WTC 7 was built over a Con Edison building.

"The structural design of WTC 7 was unique. It was built over an existing Con Edison substation, which required the use of long-span beams and girders to transfer loads from the building's columns to the foundations. This design made the building more vulnerable to the effects of uncontrolled fires"

Big lie #1, I was one of the first personal on the site after the completion of the foundation on August 1985. There was no Con Edison Building in sight. The building site comprised of one full block of 42,000 square feet. The only structure in place at the time was one floor underground. Again no sight of a Con Edison building there either. Maybe if I dug down I may have found it.

It is possible that a Con Edison building was on that site previously and got demolished for the building of WTC 7.

They know well that they can get away with such nonsense as the majority will believe everything.

I could debate every sentence but lets conclude here with the issue of fireproofing which I have visited earlier.  NIST mentioned that office furniture was one of the main reasons why the building collapsed. They are really taking the mickey now but they know their audience.

Quote with regards the fireproofing and they had to throw in the long span steel which is of course a lie.

"The collapse of WTC 7 provides valuable lessons for engineers and architects. It highlights the potential vulnerability of long-span steel structures to uncontrolled fires and the risk of progressive collapse. It also underscores the importance of fireproofing and the need for robust fire protection systems in tall buildings"

I have never witnessed more fireproofing before or since and of the highest quality. This is a steel framed Q Deck building we are talking about.  Office furniture, what a joke, again they know their audience. Firefighters I know said the small fires were completely under control but they were ordered to vacate the building because Silverstein decided to 'pull" it. "Pull" means controlled demolition in the industry.


Now I will post evidence of what really happened on 9/11. 
"I wish I could inspire the same confidence in the truth which is so readily accorded to lies".

Seamus

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Irrefutable evidence that the Official 9/11 fairy tale is just that, a fairy tale. This is just the tip of the iceberg
 
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Milltown Row2

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If you believe that garbage.... See how it works?
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