9/11 What really happened to WT7?

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: Seamus on September 13, 2024, 06:31:43 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 11, 2024, 08:39:28 AM
Quote from: Seamus on September 11, 2024, 03:23:26 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 09, 2024, 10:28:28 PMWT7 collapsed, because guess  what, they hadn't decided to drop half a building on it, and have internal fire rage through it, to test if it take such damage. Just like a bad fire at Grenfell highlighted a material deficient. Never understood why rainscreen cladding hadn't External fire breaks outside floor levels anyway

So half a building falling on World Trade Center 7 was the main cause of the collapse, a 10 second collapse into its own footprint. I presume you are talking about one of WTC 1 or 2 being the instigator. That is 55 floors falling on top of WTC 7, have you video evidence of this? The official lie didn't even come up with that one.

It didn't collapse onto its own footprint. Debris was spread across a wide area. The surrounding buildings all took damage, some more than others. Building 7 was damaged enough to cause a structural failure.

Go get a hobby.

Normal protective measures could not be used as with regular controlled demolitions. Have you ever witnessed a controlled demolition of a high rise building take place? Also nanotechnology was in play (my opinion Ripple Technology, not the crypto), this explains the tons of steel flying through air and tons of concrete pulverized. Massive steel beams turned to molten lasting for months. I can speak of the steel structure and the 4 inch thickness of fireproofing surrounding each beam and gilder along with the rebar reinforced tons of concrete in WTC 7. I was a first hand witness as I worked in the construction of the building from early September 1985 to the topping off in early 1987. I was one of the first people on site after the completion of the foundation. Out of curiosity I tested the fireproofing with an oxygen acetylene torch which I'm very adapt at. Barely a spark bounced off. When WTC 7 came down in 10 or so seconds I instantly know that America was attacked from within.  NIST's final conclusion was that WTC 7 collapsed due to fires, what a load of crap.

You're bonkers! Out of curiosity  ;D

So in your opinion and expertise

Were the planes hijacked by people within the US government, thus killed themselves by driving a plane into a building, to make it look like an explosion, while someone else in government set off a series of explosions that he and others planted in the building unknowingly to others.

Which other buildings were rigged? Pentagon, obviously another team of shadowy government agents rigged it and another patriot flew his plane with passengers into it, killing himself along the way to to get this act through parliament, f**k me!

Then the last plane which building was ready to be exploded before it hit the deck? The whitehouse? Was it also rigged?

All this to to create the patriot act to help prevent/reduce terrorism
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

LeoMc

Quote from: Seamus on September 13, 2024, 06:31:43 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 11, 2024, 08:39:28 AM
Quote from: Seamus on September 11, 2024, 03:23:26 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 09, 2024, 10:28:28 PMWT7 collapsed, because guess  what, they hadn't decided to drop half a building on it, and have internal fire rage through it, to test if it take such damage. Just like a bad fire at Grenfell highlighted a material deficient. Never understood why rainscreen cladding hadn't External fire breaks outside floor levels anyway

So half a building falling on World Trade Center 7 was the main cause of the collapse, a 10 second collapse into its own footprint. I presume you are talking about one of WTC 1 or 2 being the instigator. That is 55 floors falling on top of WTC 7, have you video evidence of this? The official lie didn't even come up with that one.

It didn't collapse onto its own footprint. Debris was spread across a wide area. The surrounding buildings all took damage, some more than others. Building 7 was damaged enough to cause a structural failure.

Go get a hobby.

Normal protective measures could not be used as with regular controlled demolitions. Have you ever witnessed a controlled demolition of a high rise building take place? Also nanotechnology was in play (my opinion Ripple Technology, not the crypto), this explains the tons of steel flying through air and tons of concrete pulverized. Massive steel beams turned to molten lasting for months. I can speak of the steel structure and the 4 inch thickness of fireproofing surrounding each beam and gilder along with the rebar reinforced tons of concrete in WTC 7. I was a first hand witness as I worked in the construction of the building from early September 1985 to the topping off in early 1987. I was one of the first people on site after the completion of the foundation. Out of curiosity I tested the fireproofing with an oxygen acetylene torch which I'm very adapt at. Barely a spark bounced off. When WTC 7 came down in 10 or so seconds I instantly know that America was attacked from within.  NIST's final conclusion was that WTC 7 collapsed due to fires, what a load of crap.

The conspiracy goes way back and Seamus is in on it. They deliberately weakened the steel with an acetylene torch. No wonder it collapsed.

Seamus

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2024, 07:17:12 AM
Quote from: Seamus on September 13, 2024, 04:48:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2024, 01:03:15 PM
Quote from: Seamus on September 11, 2024, 03:23:26 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 09, 2024, 10:28:28 PMWT7 collapsed, because guess  what, they hadn't decided to drop half a building on it, and have internal fire rage through it, to test if it take such damage. Just like a bad fire at Grenfell highlighted a material deficient. Never understood why rainscreen cladding hadn't External fire breaks outside floor levels anyway

So half a building falling on World Trade Center 7 was the main cause of the collapse, a 10 second collapse into its own footprint. I presume you are talking about one of WTC 1 or 2 being the instigator. That is 55 floors falling on top of WTC 7, have you video evidence of this? The official lie didn't even come up with that one.

What is the Why in your theory?

You didn't witness it in the immediate and long term aftermath? You must have slept through all that also. No Patriot Act written beforehand and ready to be unveiled, no massive loss of freedoms, no Homeland Insecurity no wars etc, etc, etc?

If you've nothing to hide what's the problem? What freedom have you lost?

And to get that they wiped out 3000 people?

Ok



Did you even read the Patriot Act? No freedoms lost, are you kidding me, surely you are not that much of a zombie.

3,000 people, what planet are you living on? How about the thousands more who died of cancers who worked at ground zero and the millions due to wars? Those criminals don't give a dam about any number of deaths.
"I wish I could inspire the same confidence in the truth which is so readily accorded to lies".

Seamus

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2024, 07:33:21 AM
Quote from: Seamus on September 13, 2024, 06:31:43 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 11, 2024, 08:39:28 AM
Quote from: Seamus on September 11, 2024, 03:23:26 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 09, 2024, 10:28:28 PMWT7 collapsed, because guess  what, they hadn't decided to drop half a building on it, and have internal fire rage through it, to test if it take such damage. Just like a bad fire at Grenfell highlighted a material deficient. Never understood why rainscreen cladding hadn't External fire breaks outside floor levels anyway

So half a building falling on World Trade Center 7 was the main cause of the collapse, a 10 second collapse into its own footprint. I presume you are talking about one of WTC 1 or 2 being the instigator. That is 55 floors falling on top of WTC 7, have you video evidence of this? The official lie didn't even come up with that one.

It didn't collapse onto its own footprint. Debris was spread across a wide area. The surrounding buildings all took damage, some more than others. Building 7 was damaged enough to cause a structural failure.

Go get a hobby.

Normal protective measures could not be used as with regular controlled demolitions. Have you ever witnessed a controlled demolition of a high rise building take place? Also nanotechnology was in play (my opinion Ripple Technology, not the crypto), this explains the tons of steel flying through air and tons of concrete pulverized. Massive steel beams turned to molten lasting for months. I can speak of the steel structure and the 4 inch thickness of fireproofing surrounding each beam and gilder along with the rebar reinforced tons of concrete in WTC 7. I was a first hand witness as I worked in the construction of the building from early September 1985 to the topping off in early 1987. I was one of the first people on site after the completion of the foundation. Out of curiosity I tested the fireproofing with an oxygen acetylene torch which I'm very adapt at. Barely a spark bounced off. When WTC 7 came down in 10 or so seconds I instantly know that America was attacked from within.  NIST's final conclusion was that WTC 7 collapsed due to fires, what a load of crap.

You're bonkers! Out of curiosity  ;D

So in your opinion and expertise

Were the planes hijacked by people within the US government, thus killed themselves by driving a plane into a building, to make it look like an explosion, while someone else in government set off a series of explosions that he and others planted in the building unknowingly to others.

Which other buildings were rigged? Pentagon, obviously another team of shadowy government agents rigged it and another patriot flew his plane with passengers into it, killing himself along the way to to get this act through parliament, f**k me!

Then the last plane which building was ready to be exploded before it hit the deck? The whitehouse? Was it also rigged?

All this to to create the patriot act to help prevent/reduce terrorism

What a load of stupid uniformed questions. Mohamed Atta, who's passport was found on the streets of New York. give me a break. None of those "hijackers" could even navigate a simulator on the ground. Watch Mohamed Atta's Flying Circus. Strip clubs, drinking and incompetence, some devoted Muslims they are.  All "hijackers" must have live resembling cats.

Plane hit the Pentagon, show me the evidence. Video evidence shows a missile.

Last plane heading for the White House, no such thing, no plane ever heading in that direction. "Lets Roll", what a joke, never happened. Again show me the evidence of such a plane. "Oh. I heard it on tv and read it in the newspapers and the government told me so it must be true".  None of that carries any weight. "all this to create a Patriot Act" did you not see the what else I mentioned plus etc, etc, etc?

If I remember rightly you are in the medical field and love treating illnesses with toxic chemicals. That little world of yours is also about to come crumbling down, mainly due to what happened over the last four or five years. The US will be one of the last countries to give in.
"I wish I could inspire the same confidence in the truth which is so readily accorded to lies".

Seamus

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Quote from: LeoMc on September 13, 2024, 07:53:38 AM
Quote from: Seamus on September 13, 2024, 06:31:43 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 11, 2024, 08:39:28 AM
Quote from: Seamus on September 11, 2024, 03:23:26 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 09, 2024, 10:28:28 PMWT7 collapsed, because guess  what, they hadn't decided to drop half a building on it, and have internal fire rage through it, to test if it take such damage. Just like a bad fire at Grenfell highlighted a material deficient. Never understood why rainscreen cladding hadn't External fire breaks outside floor levels anyway

So half a building falling on World Trade Center 7 was the main cause of the collapse, a 10 second collapse into its own footprint. I presume you are talking about one of WTC 1 or 2 being the instigator. That is 55 floors falling on top of WTC 7, have you video evidence of this? The official lie didn't even come up with that one.

It didn't collapse onto its own footprint. Debris was spread across a wide area. The surrounding buildings all took damage, some more than others. Building 7 was damaged enough to cause a structural failure.

Go get a hobby.

Normal protective measures could not be used as with regular controlled demolitions. Have you ever witnessed a controlled demolition of a high rise building take place? Also nanotechnology was in play (my opinion Ripple Technology, not the crypto), this explains the tons of steel flying through air and tons of concrete pulverized. Massive steel beams turned to molten lasting for months. I can speak of the steel structure and the 4 inch thickness of fireproofing surrounding each beam and gilder along with the rebar reinforced tons of concrete in WTC 7. I was a first hand witness as I worked in the construction of the building from early September 1985 to the topping off in early 1987. I was one of the first people on site after the completion of the foundation. Out of curiosity I tested the fireproofing with an oxygen acetylene torch which I'm very adapt at. Barely a spark bounced off. When WTC 7 came down in 10 or so seconds I instantly know that America was attacked from within.  NIST's final conclusion was that WTC 7 collapsed due to fires, what a load of crap.

The conspiracy goes way back and Seamus is in on it. They deliberately weakened the steel with an acetylene torch. No wonder it collapsed.

The Q Deck ceilings were also fireproofed. What a nonsensical response. The steel was not weakened by fire as per the official report. Do you know the difference between office fires and the cutting power of an oxygen acetylene torch? Yet another person clueless about construction
"I wish I could inspire the same confidence in the truth which is so readily accorded to lies".

Milltown Row2

So was it a remote control plane that went into the towers or was it some and mirrors?

In your search for facts, how many people are involved and who was at the head of this?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

JoG2

Quote from: Seamus on September 13, 2024, 08:02:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2024, 07:17:12 AM
Quote from: Seamus on September 13, 2024, 04:48:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2024, 01:03:15 PM
Quote from: Seamus on September 11, 2024, 03:23:26 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 09, 2024, 10:28:28 PMWT7 collapsed, because guess  what, they hadn't decided to drop half a building on it, and have internal fire rage through it, to test if it take such damage. Just like a bad fire at Grenfell highlighted a material deficient. Never understood why rainscreen cladding hadn't External fire breaks outside floor levels anyway

So half a building falling on World Trade Center 7 was the main cause of the collapse, a 10 second collapse into its own footprint. I presume you are talking about one of WTC 1 or 2 being the instigator. That is 55 floors falling on top of WTC 7, have you video evidence of this? The official lie didn't even come up with that one.

What is the Why in your theory?

You didn't witness it in the immediate and long term aftermath? You must have slept through all that also. No Patriot Act written beforehand and ready to be unveiled, no massive loss of freedoms, no Homeland Insecurity no wars etc, etc, etc?

If you've nothing to hide what's the problem? What freedom have you lost?

And to get that they wiped out 3000 people?

Ok



Did you even read the Patriot Act? No freedoms lost, are you kidding me, surely you are not that much of a zombie.

3,000 people, what planet are you living on? How about the thousands more who died of cancers who worked at ground zero and the millions due to wars? Those criminals don't give a dam about any number of deaths.

Would you recommend?

samuel maguire

Lads we have a live one. Seamus son you are nuts. I get it that theres cover ups and jiggery pokery in all walks of life- but f**k me. Get a grip.

samuel maguire

Who flew the planes into the towers then. There is video evidence of planes hitting the towers. How di they choose what planes to take and people to sacrifice? They would have to been able pilots to fly a plane. Or where these people trained as pilots beforehand knowing what they were to carry out?

Was it a remote control plane. Was it an illusion? So many questions

RedHand88

Seamus I categorically refuse to believe you were testing the WTC foundations in 1985 with an oxygen acetylene torch. You have completely made that up in order to lend false evidence to your deluded conspiracy theory.

theskull1

It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera


thebigfella

Quote from: JoG2 on September 13, 2024, 09:21:57 AM
Quote from: Seamus on September 13, 2024, 08:02:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2024, 07:17:12 AM
Quote from: Seamus on September 13, 2024, 04:48:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2024, 01:03:15 PM
Quote from: Seamus on September 11, 2024, 03:23:26 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 09, 2024, 10:28:28 PMWT7 collapsed, because guess  what, they hadn't decided to drop half a building on it, and have internal fire rage through it, to test if it take such damage. Just like a bad fire at Grenfell highlighted a material deficient. Never understood why rainscreen cladding hadn't External fire breaks outside floor levels anyway

So half a building falling on World Trade Center 7 was the main cause of the collapse, a 10 second collapse into its own footprint. I presume you are talking about one of WTC 1 or 2 being the instigator. That is 55 floors falling on top of WTC 7, have you video evidence of this? The official lie didn't even come up with that one.

What is the Why in your theory?

You didn't witness it in the immediate and long term aftermath? You must have slept through all that also. No Patriot Act written beforehand and ready to be unveiled, no massive loss of freedoms, no Homeland Insecurity no wars etc, etc, etc?

If you've nothing to hide what's the problem? What freedom have you lost?

And to get that they wiped out 3000 people?

Ok



Did you even read the Patriot Act? No freedoms lost, are you kidding me, surely you are not that much of a zombie.

3,000 people, what planet are you living on? How about the thousands more who died of cancers who worked at ground zero and the millions due to wars? Those criminals don't give a dam about any number of deaths.

Would you recommend?

Watch the movie instead. Harrison Ford is excellent in it.

JoG2

Quote from: thebigfella on September 13, 2024, 11:04:45 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on September 13, 2024, 09:21:57 AM
Quote from: Seamus on September 13, 2024, 08:02:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2024, 07:17:12 AM
Quote from: Seamus on September 13, 2024, 04:48:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2024, 01:03:15 PM
Quote from: Seamus on September 11, 2024, 03:23:26 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 09, 2024, 10:28:28 PMWT7 collapsed, because guess  what, they hadn't decided to drop half a building on it, and have internal fire rage through it, to test if it take such damage. Just like a bad fire at Grenfell highlighted a material deficient. Never understood why rainscreen cladding hadn't External fire breaks outside floor levels anyway

So half a building falling on World Trade Center 7 was the main cause of the collapse, a 10 second collapse into its own footprint. I presume you are talking about one of WTC 1 or 2 being the instigator. That is 55 floors falling on top of WTC 7, have you video evidence of this? The official lie didn't even come up with that one.

What is the Why in your theory?

You didn't witness it in the immediate and long term aftermath? You must have slept through all that also. No Patriot Act written beforehand and ready to be unveiled, no massive loss of freedoms, no Homeland Insecurity no wars etc, etc, etc?

If you've nothing to hide what's the problem? What freedom have you lost?

And to get that they wiped out 3000 people?

Ok



Did you even read the Patriot Act? No freedoms lost, are you kidding me, surely you are not that much of a zombie.

3,000 people, what planet are you living on? How about the thousands more who died of cancers who worked at ground zero and the millions due to wars? Those criminals don't give a dam about any number of deaths.

Would you recommend?

Watch the movie instead. Harrison Ford is excellent in it.

😁

Milltown Row2

Quote from: RedHand88 on September 13, 2024, 10:14:56 AMSeamus I categorically refuse to believe you were testing the WTC foundations in 1985 with an oxygen acetylene torch. You have completely made that up in order to lend false evidence to your deluded conspiracy theory.

I've used Oxy Acetylene burning equipment for many years and I can say (from experience) you can cut through any metal  up to at least 6"

as for it being fireproofed well I'm not sure on how long that stuff lasts or depending on damage/impact of the imaginary planes/rockets had on it.

But Redhand is right, you are talking keek
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.