County Manager Merry go round

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Armagh18

Quote from: Tubberman on September 06, 2024, 08:14:09 AM
Quote from: ardtole on September 06, 2024, 05:14:13 AMSounds similar to a lot of Armagh fans after the Ulster final.

Great, if we stick with McStay for another 8 years we should see some results  ;D
Be more than yous have got in the last 70 years anyway.


Tubberman

Quote from: Armagh18 on September 06, 2024, 06:37:47 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on September 06, 2024, 08:14:09 AM
Quote from: ardtole on September 06, 2024, 05:14:13 AMSounds similar to a lot of Armagh fans after the Ulster final.

Great, if we stick with McStay for another 8 years we should see some results  ;D
Be more than yous have got in the last 70 years anyway.

He hasn't even won a Connacht yet, we've any amount of them
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

Derry Optimist

Re the appointment of a new Senior football football manager I think that the time has come for Derry County Board to break the traditional mould and go back to two of their former brilliant minors of yesteryear  who since then have become managerial champions in their own right, albeit in different codes.

In 1969 and 1970 Mickey Moran and Martin O'Neill were colleagues at both club level and County levels. In the interim Mickey coached Derry County to their only All Ireland win in 1993 in the old method of playing football and Kilcoo to the All Ireland club title in 2022 in the new method of football.

 Martin O'Neill has been a top class soccer player and an experienced manager at club and national levels. Both have remained friends for all of these years. What  are the chances of a left field joint managerial appointment!!?? ( none I would say but at the way things are going it does not appear that there is any credible candidate available. Thus I have indulged
 myself in presenting the Joint Moran/O'Neill ticket!!!) Seriously, there does not appear to be any young capable manager out there who is willing to say " I will lead a management team that will win an All Ireland for Derry just like Eamonn Coleman did. Let us forget about the Jim Gavins, Malachy O'Rourkes and Rory Gallaghers  of this world. There are only a few of them anyway. Instead there has to be some untested but brilliant manager out there. Let the CB and the players find him rather than dwell on who is not available. Their combined original attempt to chase a lost cause has only delayed matters.Now let them find a solution together sooner rather than later

Truthsayer

Quote from: Derry Optimist on September 06, 2024, 07:11:21 PMRe the appointment of a new Senior football football manager I think that the time has come for Derry County Board to break the traditional mould and go back to two of their former brilliant minors of yesteryear  who since then have become managerial champions in their own right, albeit in different codes.

In 1969 and 1970 Mickey Moran and Martin O'Neill were colleagues at both club level and County levels. In the interim Mickey coached Derry County to their only All Ireland win in 1993 in the old method of playing football and Kilcoo to the All Ireland club title in 2022 in the new method of football.

 Martin O'Neill has been a top class soccer player and an experienced manager at club and national levels. Both have remained friends for all of these years. What  are the chances of a left field joint managerial appointment!!?? ( none I would say but at the way things are going it does not appear that there is any credible candidate available. Thus I have indulged
 myself in presenting the Joint Moran/O'Neill ticket!!!) Seriously, there does not appear to be any young capable manager out there who is willing to say " I will lead a management team that will win an All Ireland for Derry just like Eamonn Coleman did. Let us forget about the Jim Gavins, Malachy O'Rourkes and Rory Gallaghers  of this world. There are only a few of them anyway. Instead there has to be some untested but brilliant manager out there. Let the CB and the players find him rather than dwell on who is not available. Their combined original attempt to chase a lost cause has only delayed matters.Now let them find a solution together sooner rather than later
Martin O'Neill's brother Gerry managed Armagh to the 1977 All Ireland final. Although there is as much chance of Dennis Taylor managing Tyrone or Carl Frampton taking Antrim (maybe youre messing!) I agree that Derry, with a great GAA tradition and former players, must have someone in the county can manage them.

shamrocker12


Blowitupref

Quote from: shamrocker12 on September 06, 2024, 08:07:57 PMJames horan to derry...⏳️

A piece from him in the Irish Examiner podcast a few days ago


Quote'There is madness at the minute. There are so many reviews. There is so much unrest'


There is so much noise. It is not a settled time at all. I think it is getting crazier every year. I remember when I started after coming in 2011, it was brilliant. Social media wasn't what it was. Expectation wasn't what it was, the demands weren't there.
"It was a brilliant time. A privilege and honour to be involved. I got a second chance then and in those four years, the difference was phenomenal. I don't know if pressure is the right word but the intensity around it, the noise around players, the system, the setup.
"It was a completely different vibe. Different and more difficult.
"The intercounty manager is a tough gig now. I sense there are fewer people willing to put themselves forward. Because of time, the impact on family, yourself, your mental well-being, your job, the impact is total.
"There are fewer people who meet that profile now. It is getting tougher for managers."
The all-consuming nature of the gig is apparent. Horan was asked if it is currently possible to work a full-time job and be an intercounty manager.
"I don't think it is. What is needed now, the coordination, the time, the prep, the one-on-ones, the backroom team, the key stakeholders that need to be part of it, it is an industry now. You as manager are central to it.
"You are dealing with 40 players or with academies with a player pathway to make it sustainable, to do all of that properly with expectations players rightfully have, they are ambitious and want the right setup and the best chance to be successful.
"For an intercounty manager starting out his work career, the impact on that would be huge."
He continued: "To answer your question, the commitment and time needed, it is absolutely full-time. That is why you've seen retired people go into intercounty management."

Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Armagh18

Quote from: Tubberman on September 06, 2024, 07:03:50 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 06, 2024, 06:37:47 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on September 06, 2024, 08:14:09 AM
Quote from: ardtole on September 06, 2024, 05:14:13 AMSounds similar to a lot of Armagh fans after the Ulster final.

Great, if we stick with McStay for another 8 years we should see some results  ;D
Be more than yous have got in the last 70 years anyway.

He hasn't even won a Connacht yet, we've any amount of them
Sure we still haven't an Ulster

Rossfan

#2843
I spose the AI was some bit of consolation  ;D
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Dunneroyal

The Meath situation is getting ridiculous. Nominations closed last week. No word on who was nominated (supposed to be Brennan and wall ). Now cb looking at those not nominated if they would be interested in letting their names go forward (ballymagash stuff ) and then those same people will make a decision, so let me put it this way I'm a outside manager, I'm asked by Meath cb would I be interested in in taking over job, I say yeah. I do interview and then they come back and say no we went with the lad that was nominated by the clubs prior to us going asking you to take over. Flip it for those nominated by clubs. Sorry lads while we go and seek out others.  Comical and embarrassing at the same time.
Hon the royal

LC

Is Malachy O'Rourke still teaching?

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Derry Optimist

Yes, Malachy O'Rourke, after  having taught for 33 years in the one school in Fermanagh,  decided to take early retirement in 2023. Perhaps, one of the supposed candidates for the Derry managerial vacancy will do likewise!!!

shamrocker12

Quote from: Derry Optimist on September 08, 2024, 01:18:08 PMYes, Malachy O'Rourke, after  having taught for 33 years in the one school in Fermanagh,  decided to take early retirement in 2023. Perhaps, one of the supposed candidates for the Derry managerial vacancy will do likewise!!!

Who would that be? One minute it's peter keane, next it's horan, next it's rory gallagher, next it's andy moran and now the latest is eamon fitzmaurice. 🤣 I wish the county board would just put an end to the soap opera and make an announcement

Derry Optimist

Derry County Board deserve top marks for keeping  all of us in suspense re the identity  of the new Derry football manager! Their sense of omerta is really watertight. RTE Radio went a step further yesterday  to really confuse us, in their weekly Sunday Sports programme, by naming a candidate whom we know will not get the job!! Hopefully the County Board do know!!