County Manager Merry go round

Started by Rossfan, August 11, 2015, 02:39:34 PM

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tbrick18

Quote from: redzone on August 31, 2024, 08:31:41 PMHarsh reality is MOR doesn't want a bit of Derry senior team. Why would he. Even their own from within the county won't touch it. Greatest crowd of bitches within the Gaa. Look at some of the posts about him here for leaving Glen after all he's done. Meenagh had the job if he wanted it and chose to go to Down and the Tailteen cup instead.

Not what happened with Meenagh at all, so the entire post is just your opinion and based on rumour or made up info.

JoG2

Quote from: Silver hill on August 31, 2024, 07:03:21 PMDerry should have camped on MoR's doorstep last September but stupidly held out due to misplaced loyalty to Gallagher. The eventual approach was shambolic and amateurish. Man at the helm is out of his depth. We deserve better.

Eh? M O'Rourke, before now had been asked 5 odd times to manage Derry. He didn't want the job. These things happen unfortunately. How does a 'shambolic and amatuerish' approach look like BTW? Man at the helm has seen underage success, 2 x Anglo Celts, a Div 1 and a load of Croke Pk games. You're a hard man to please  ;D

JoG2

Quote from: Truthsayer on August 31, 2024, 08:05:32 PMWould Derry not chase Conleith Gilligan?... Johnny McBride.. is good men in Derry

Deets is a no. No idea re Johnny

Armagh18

Quote from: Silver hill on August 31, 2024, 07:03:21 PMDerry should have camped on MoR's doorstep last September but stupidly held out due to misplaced loyalty to Gallagher. The eventual approach was shambolic and amateurish. Man at the helm is out of his depth. We deserve better.
He was always going to see out the AI series with Glen though.

screenexile

Quote from: redzone on August 31, 2024, 08:31:41 PMHarsh reality is MOR doesn't want a bit of Derry senior team. Why would he. Even their own from within the county won't touch it. Greatest crowd of bitches within the Gaa. Look at some of the posts about him here for leaving Glen after all he's done. Meenagh had the job if he wanted it and chose to go to Down and the Tailteen cup instead.

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Silver hill

Quote from: JoG2 on August 31, 2024, 10:52:16 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on August 31, 2024, 07:03:21 PMDerry should have camped on MoR's doorstep last September but stupidly held out due to misplaced loyalty to Gallagher. The eventual approach was shambolic and amateurish. Man at the helm is out of his depth. We deserve better.

Eh? M O'Rourke, before now had been asked 5 odd times to manage Derry. He didn't want the job. These things happen unfortunately. How does a 'shambolic and amatuerish' approach look like BTW? Man at the helm has seen underage success, 2 x Anglo Celts, a Div 1 and a load of Croke Pk games. You're a hard man to please  ;D

Ok. Let me break it down for you. Last September , before the knee jerk appointment of Harte, Our CEO's words to MOR were '....if things don't work out with Gallagher, would you be interested in taking the job?'
Basically letting him know he's not their first choice. If that's not shambolic and amateurish then I don't know what is.

JoG2

Quote from: Silver hill on September 02, 2024, 09:09:46 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 31, 2024, 10:52:16 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on August 31, 2024, 07:03:21 PMDerry should have camped on MoR's doorstep last September but stupidly held out due to misplaced loyalty to Gallagher. The eventual approach was shambolic and amateurish. Man at the helm is out of his depth. We deserve better.

Eh? M O'Rourke, before now had been asked 5 odd times to manage Derry. He didn't want the job. These things happen unfortunately. How does a 'shambolic and amatuerish' approach look like BTW? Man at the helm has seen underage success, 2 x Anglo Celts, a Div 1 and a load of Croke Pk games. You're a hard man to please  ;D

Ok. Let me break it down for you. Last September , before the knee jerk appointment of Harte, Our CEO's words to MOR were '....if things don't work out with Gallagher, would you be interested in taking the job?'
Basically letting him know he's not their first choice. If that's not shambolic and amateurish then I don't know what is.

Well if it's quotes, that must have been the conversation verbatim. Wonder how the other 4 approaches to MOR went?
Explain the how Harte was 'kneejerk'...? He was the 5th or 6th man asked and it was player driven in the end, and all involved were happy with the appointment at the time. Horan, Gavin, McGuinness all contacted during this kneejerk episode. Who would you have went for?
MOR didn't want the Derry job, you can wash our dirty laundry in public all you want, but, when it boils down, he just wasn't interested in it

NAG1

Sure if MOR doesnt want the job the obvious choice would be Damian McErlain No?

Silver hill

Quote from: JoG2 on September 02, 2024, 09:25:27 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on September 02, 2024, 09:09:46 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 31, 2024, 10:52:16 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on August 31, 2024, 07:03:21 PMDerry should have camped on MoR's doorstep last September but stupidly held out due to misplaced loyalty to Gallagher. The eventual approach was shambolic and amateurish. Man at the helm is out of his depth. We deserve better.

Eh? M O'Rourke, before now had been asked 5 odd times to manage Derry. He didn't want the job. These things happen unfortunately. How does a 'shambolic and amatuerish' approach look like BTW? Man at the helm has seen underage success, 2 x Anglo Celts, a Div 1 and a load of Croke Pk games. You're a hard man to please  ;D

Ok. Let me break it down for you. Last September , before the knee jerk appointment of Harte, Our CEO's words to MOR were '....if things don't work out with Gallagher, would you be interested in taking the job?'
Basically letting him know he's not their first choice. If that's not shambolic and amateurish then I don't know what is.

Well if it's quotes, that must have been the conversation verbatim. Wonder how the other 4 approaches to MOR went?
Explain the how Harte was 'kneejerk'...? He was the 5th or 6th man asked and it was player driven in the end, and all involved were happy with the appointment at the time. Horan, Gavin, McGuinness all contacted during this kneejerk episode. Who would you have went for?
MOR didn't want the Derry job, you can wash our dirty laundry in public all you want, but, when it boils down, he just wasn't interested in it

Those 3 men may well have been contacted but it's not credible to count them as realistic candidates. Whole country knows Gavin has no interest or desire in managing anyone after Dublin. Horan, from a logistical perspective is also a non starter.
Donegal repeatedly returned to MCGuinness (players as well) until they landed the man they wanted.
The Harte appointment was knee jerk because after the shambolic approach to Malachy, there was no other credible candidate. The whole debacle can be traced back to Derry's misguided faith that they could reinstate Gallagher. Tried to argue that there had been nothing proven and it was trial by social media. Didn't read the room and took no cognisance of the sentiment out there with the clubs and fans. Haters appointment was wrong on so many levels. My point is, O'rourke was the perfect fit to appease the players and fans. The approach by Derry should have reflected that and at the very least, made him feel that he was our first choice. Unfortunately, it was doomed once that opening line was uttered.

oakleaflad

Quote from: NAG1 on September 02, 2024, 09:39:51 AMSure if MOR doesnt want the job the obvious choice would be Damian McErlain No?
Already been there and didn't set the world alight.

JoG2

Quote from: oakleaflad on September 02, 2024, 12:40:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 02, 2024, 09:39:51 AMSure if MOR doesnt want the job the obvious choice would be Damian McErlain No?
Already been there and didn't set the world alight.

Damian is taking the u20s next year

NAG1

Quote from: JoG2 on September 02, 2024, 02:13:34 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on September 02, 2024, 12:40:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 02, 2024, 09:39:51 AMSure if MOR doesnt want the job the obvious choice would be Damian McErlain No?
Already been there and didn't set the world alight.

Damian is taking the u20s next year

Makes sense then, I take it there is a bit of succession planning there in place rather than the scramble that is going on currently.

Rossfan

#2817
Alan O'Mara New York stepping down.

I see Malachy O'Rourke is the only candidate nominated for the Tyrone job.
Good chance he'll get it so ....??🤔
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Blowitupref

From MayoNews.ie

A review into the 2024 season between the Mayo GAA county board and the senior management team is ongoing and due to be completed in the next couple of weeks.

A discussion around the ongoing review was initiated at Wednesday's county board meeting by Garrymore delegate John Farragher, who claimed that players and supporters are 'not happy' with the current state of the Mayo senior team.

"A lot of people are not happy, they want change,"

"And questionnaires sent out to players, I'm hearing players are not happy. This sends out alarm bells. What I'm saying, if you lose a dressing room...you can forget about it.

"I can tell you, I go to a lot of games and the supporters, the genuine people going through the turnstiles are not happy," he added.

Louisburgh delegate, John Gibbons, echoed his sentiments, saying: "People are not happy with our selectors, our coaches, people are not happy. And that's out there and it's out there big time."


Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

JoG2

Quote from: Blowitupref on September 05, 2024, 05:49:01 PMFrom MayoNews.ie

A review into the 2024 season between the Mayo GAA county board and the senior management team is ongoing and due to be completed in the next couple of weeks.

A discussion around the ongoing review was initiated at Wednesday's county board meeting by Garrymore delegate John Farragher, who claimed that players and supporters are 'not happy' with the current state of the Mayo senior team.

"A lot of people are not happy, they want change,"

"And questionnaires sent out to players, I'm hearing players are not happy. This sends out alarm bells. What I'm saying, if you lose a dressing room...you can forget about it.

"I can tell you, I go to a lot of games and the supporters, the genuine people going through the turnstiles are not happy," he added.

Louisburgh delegate, John Gibbons, echoed his sentiments, saying: "People are not happy with our selectors, our coaches, people are not happy. And that's out there and it's out there big time."




Is it not down to the fact that Mayo do not have the same calibre of players atm? You can whoop and wail all you want, but if the players aren't there to compete at the very top level, you're wasting your time? Or show the county how much it means to you by throwing the present management team under the bus...