Antrim Football Thread

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Kidder81

Quote from: marty34 on June 04, 2024, 06:42:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 04, 2024, 06:31:23 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 04, 2024, 06:18:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 04, 2024, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 04, 2024, 02:49:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 04, 2024, 02:36:51 PMClubs that MR2 mentioned there will struggle for numbers in the near future if they already aren't. Houses in Cushendall, Waterfoot and Cushendun simply can't be bought by first time buyers and the lack of housing means people will be looking elsewhere. Sadly it is the way it is. Even renting is impossible due to holiday homes etc.

Cushendall and Glenariffe amalgamated at U-12 & U-14 this year, gives you an idea of numbers at that age.

And Oisins and Glenravel Un16 & minor. Ballymena and Ahoghill also have amalgated.

I thought Cushendall was joined with All Saints at underage?

Saw a post on the saffron Gael about a new rig out for them.

Surely they can't join with Glenariffe?

They are at U12 & U14, why could they not ? Neither would be able to field if they didn't, it's about keeping kids involved and playing

marty34

Quote from: Kidder81 on June 04, 2024, 07:44:39 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 04, 2024, 06:42:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 04, 2024, 06:31:23 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 04, 2024, 06:18:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 04, 2024, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 04, 2024, 02:49:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 04, 2024, 02:36:51 PMClubs that MR2 mentioned there will struggle for numbers in the near future if they already aren't. Houses in Cushendall, Waterfoot and Cushendun simply can't be bought by first time buyers and the lack of housing means people will be looking elsewhere. Sadly it is the way it is. Even renting is impossible due to holiday homes etc.

Cushendall and Glenariffe amalgamated at U-12 & U-14 this year, gives you an idea of numbers at that age.

And Oisins and Glenravel Un16 & minor. Ballymena and Ahoghill also have amalgated.

I thought Cushendall was joined with All Saints at underage?

Saw a post on the saffron Gael about a new rig out for them.

Surely they can't join with Glenariffe?

They are at U12 & U14, why could they not ? Neither would be able to field if they didn't, it's about keeping kids involved and playing

Why can't they?

Did they join with All Saints, Ballymena last year and then they change to Glenariffe this year?

Do you not see the problem?

Could somebody in the know explain what the story is?

Kidder81

Think Cushendall were on their own last year, at U-12 anyway

SaffronSports

Cushendall were with Ballymena at some levels last year but not totally sure which ones.

Glenariffe u12s and u14 are now with Cushendall, Gael na Glinnti or something they're called.

Glenariffe are with Glenravel at u16 and u18.


johnnycool

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2024, 02:42:17 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 04, 2024, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 04, 2024, 12:58:41 PM
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Quote from: Caesar on June 04, 2024, 11:25:25 AMIf I am correct in saying that Corrigan Park is owned by the county as opposed to St Johns, then the club should not be able to dictate in cases like this if they want to be 'stubborn'

Corrigan has been owned by the Johnnies for as long as I can remember.


Might be a bit pedantic but are all the grounds not technically owned by the GAA and that's what the Trustees of the club are for.

Bigger question is will there even be a St John's club in 20/30 years?

Each clubs has the county secretary and the Provincial secretary listed as two of their trustees, but a club can appoint three or more of their own.

FYI Down CB don't own Pairc Esler and I'd hazard a guess that Tyrone don't own Omagh either.


The biggest clubs in Belfast are evidently in County Down going by a recent GAA Social podcast by Oisin and yer man from Lavey.


Bredagh/Carryduff?

Playing membership wise? We have Ladies football at all ages, Camogie started up very recently and we have 4 teams, we have two senior teams in 2 leagues hurling and football,  juvenile teams in both hurling and football all the way down to under 10's ..



I'd know a few of the Carryduff coaches quite well, at a Down underage  Fundamentals blitz they were telling me that at P3-P4 they'd 40 kids at that age for hurling and would probably have almost 50 at the football for those same ages and this would be common all the way up to U14 where they enter two teams in the Down hurling leagues as does Bredagh who are similarly stacked with underage numbers. It brings it's own problems with coaches, pitch availability and all that, but no doubt the Gaelfast coaches are all out to help them.  ;)

I think on that podcast the lad from East Belfast said they'd 200+ adult playing members

Milltown Row2

Quote from: johnnycool on June 05, 2024, 08:29:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2024, 02:42:17 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 04, 2024, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 04, 2024, 12:58:41 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 04, 2024, 12:40:41 PM
Quote from: Caesar on June 04, 2024, 11:25:25 AMIf I am correct in saying that Corrigan Park is owned by the county as opposed to St Johns, then the club should not be able to dictate in cases like this if they want to be 'stubborn'

Corrigan has been owned by the Johnnies for as long as I can remember.


Might be a bit pedantic but are all the grounds not technically owned by the GAA and that's what the Trustees of the club are for.

Bigger question is will there even be a St John's club in 20/30 years?

Each clubs has the county secretary and the Provincial secretary listed as two of their trustees, but a club can appoint three or more of their own.

FYI Down CB don't own Pairc Esler and I'd hazard a guess that Tyrone don't own Omagh either.


The biggest clubs in Belfast are evidently in County Down going by a recent GAA Social podcast by Oisin and yer man from Lavey.


Bredagh/Carryduff?

Playing membership wise? We have Ladies football at all ages, Camogie started up very recently and we have 4 teams, we have two senior teams in 2 leagues hurling and football,  juvenile teams in both hurling and football all the way down to under 10's ..



I'd know a few of the Carryduff coaches quite well, at a Down underage  Fundamentals blitz they were telling me that at P3-P4 they'd 40 kids at that age for hurling and would probably have almost 50 at the football for those same ages and this would be common all the way up to U14 where they enter two teams in the Down hurling leagues as does Bredagh who are similarly stacked with underage numbers. It brings it's own problems with coaches, pitch availability and all that, but no doubt the Gaelfast coaches are all out to help them.  ;)

I think on that podcast the lad from East Belfast said they'd 200+ adult playing members

Fantastic numbers, with regards to hurling will that convert against the big three in senior? ever?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

EOC1923

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2024, 08:46:50 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 05, 2024, 08:29:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2024, 02:42:17 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 04, 2024, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 04, 2024, 12:58:41 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 04, 2024, 12:40:41 PM
Quote from: Caesar on June 04, 2024, 11:25:25 AMIf I am correct in saying that Corrigan Park is owned by the county as opposed to St Johns, then the club should not be able to dictate in cases like this if they want to be 'stubborn'

Corrigan has been owned by the Johnnies for as long as I can remember.


Might be a bit pedantic but are all the grounds not technically owned by the GAA and that's what the Trustees of the club are for.

Bigger question is will there even be a St John's club in 20/30 years?

Each clubs has the county secretary and the Provincial secretary listed as two of their trustees, but a club can appoint three or more of their own.

FYI Down CB don't own Pairc Esler and I'd hazard a guess that Tyrone don't own Omagh either.


The biggest clubs in Belfast are evidently in County Down going by a recent GAA Social podcast by Oisin and yer man from Lavey.


Bredagh/Carryduff?

Playing membership wise? We have Ladies football at all ages, Camogie started up very recently and we have 4 teams, we have two senior teams in 2 leagues hurling and football,  juvenile teams in both hurling and football all the way down to under 10's ..



I'd know a few of the Carryduff coaches quite well, at a Down underage  Fundamentals blitz they were telling me that at P3-P4 they'd 40 kids at that age for hurling and would probably have almost 50 at the football for those same ages and this would be common all the way up to U14 where they enter two teams in the Down hurling leagues as does Bredagh who are similarly stacked with underage numbers. It brings it's own problems with coaches, pitch availability and all that, but no doubt the Gaelfast coaches are all out to help them.  ;)

I think on that podcast the lad from East Belfast said they'd 200+ adult playing members

Fantastic numbers, with regards to hurling will that convert against the big three in senior? ever?
The Antrim Football thread has become the Down Hurling thread, boys a dear!

johnnycool

Quote from: EOC1923 on June 05, 2024, 10:24:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2024, 08:46:50 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 05, 2024, 08:29:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2024, 02:42:17 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 04, 2024, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 04, 2024, 12:58:41 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 04, 2024, 12:40:41 PM
Quote from: Caesar on June 04, 2024, 11:25:25 AMIf I am correct in saying that Corrigan Park is owned by the county as opposed to St Johns, then the club should not be able to dictate in cases like this if they want to be 'stubborn'

Corrigan has been owned by the Johnnies for as long as I can remember.


Might be a bit pedantic but are all the grounds not technically owned by the GAA and that's what the Trustees of the club are for.

Bigger question is will there even be a St John's club in 20/30 years?

Each clubs has the county secretary and the Provincial secretary listed as two of their trustees, but a club can appoint three or more of their own.

FYI Down CB don't own Pairc Esler and I'd hazard a guess that Tyrone don't own Omagh either.


The biggest clubs in Belfast are evidently in County Down going by a recent GAA Social podcast by Oisin and yer man from Lavey.


Bredagh/Carryduff?

Playing membership wise? We have Ladies football at all ages, Camogie started up very recently and we have 4 teams, we have two senior teams in 2 leagues hurling and football,  juvenile teams in both hurling and football all the way down to under 10's ..



I'd know a few of the Carryduff coaches quite well, at a Down underage  Fundamentals blitz they were telling me that at P3-P4 they'd 40 kids at that age for hurling and would probably have almost 50 at the football for those same ages and this would be common all the way up to U14 where they enter two teams in the Down hurling leagues as does Bredagh who are similarly stacked with underage numbers. It brings it's own problems with coaches, pitch availability and all that, but no doubt the Gaelfast coaches are all out to help them.  ;)

I think on that podcast the lad from East Belfast said they'd 200+ adult playing members

Fantastic numbers, with regards to hurling will that convert against the big three in senior? ever?
The Antrim Football thread has become the Down Hurling thread, boys a dear!

Down hurling is at a higher level than both Down football and Antrim football..

 ;)

I'll get me coat and move swiftly back to the Down and hurling threads

EOC1923

Have to say I don't have much interest in Hurling or Down but explain how Down hurlers operate at a higher level that Down and Antrim Footballers, the leagues aren't comparable but are they not in the Joe McDonagh cup the second tier hurling comp?

johnnycool

Quote from: EOC1923 on June 05, 2024, 01:32:18 PMHave to say I don't have much interest in Hurling or Down but explain how Down hurlers operate at a higher level that Down and Antrim Footballers, the leagues aren't comparable but are they not in the Joe McDonagh cup the second tier hurling comp?

A biter  ;D

Tier 1 counties in hurling only has 11 teams whereas tier 1 in football has 16.

Down would be one of the top 5 Joe McDonagh counties, hence inside the top 16.

It's elementary my dear man.


EOC1923

Quote from: johnnycool on June 05, 2024, 02:11:36 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 05, 2024, 01:32:18 PMHave to say I don't have much interest in Hurling or Down but explain how Down hurlers operate at a higher level that Down and Antrim Footballers, the leagues aren't comparable but are they not in the Joe McDonagh cup the second tier hurling comp?

A biter  ;D

Tier 1 counties in hurling only has 11 teams whereas tier 1 in football has 16.

Down would be one of the top 5 Joe McDonagh counties, hence inside the top 16.

It's elementary my dear man.


Haha So you are top 5 in the second tier of hurling, good stuff

Spike

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Quote from: SaffronSports on June 04, 2024, 10:18:00 PMCushendall were with Ballymena at some levels last year but not totally sure which ones.

Glenariffe u12s and u14 are now with Cushendall, Gael na Glinnti or something they're called.

Glenariffe are with Glenravel at u16 and u18.



Aren't Ahoghill and Ballymena hurlers amalgamated at u14 and u16 levels? think cushendall used to join with one of them a couple of years ago as well.    dont know if ahoghill have a football team or who they play for?

Hoof Hearted

Quote from: Spike on June 05, 2024, 04:25:06 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on June 04, 2024, 10:18:00 PMCushendall were with Ballymena at some levels last year but not totally sure which ones.

Glenariffe u12s and u14 are now with Cushendall, Gael na Glinnti or something they're called.

Glenariffe are with Glenravel at u16 and u18.



Aren't Ahoghill and Ballymena hurlers amalgamated at u14 and u16 levels? think cushendall used to join with one of them a couple of years ago as well.    dont know if ahoghill have a football team or who they play for?


they dont have an u16 or minor football team, have started again at u14 and u12. not sure if any other SW teams have any players, dont think so. I think they literally had 1 boy or something stupid in those school years. might have been a myth but who knows.
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What's the story with league football and county players in Antrim? Are there any starred games like other counties where county players are permitted to play? It seems the club scene just plays away without the county players?

bannside

If a player signs up to make himself available to play county, he is in principle saying that he will see very little club football if any at all, until the county season is over.

And that's the way it is in practically every county.

The grey area is where players are caught in the middle (numbers 20 to 28 on the county squad) who are caught in no man's land...and end up playing for neither! They can only hope the manager uses a bit of discretion  here or there...

Players will return to clubs for second half of the league and obviously championship.

That's the arrangement and everyone knows the deal.