Antrim Football Thread

Started by theskull1, November 09, 2006, 11:48:40 PM

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Spike

Not in the slightest.  Two small country clubs doing the most with what they have. Neither bought into the Get rich quick schemes employed by others. 

Duine Inteacht Eile

I still don't get "the reason" or how it couples with your statement about schools.

I'm not saying that you are wrong btw, you just have put a very vague comment out there. A bit more meat on the bones of it would be helpful.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Spike on March 17, 2024, 07:42:42 AMNot in the slightest.  Two small country clubs doing the most with what they have. Neither bought into the Get rich quick schemes employed by others. 

I wouldn't say small clubs either. One only plays one code too which helps.

I suppose it was get rich quick back in 82 and 83 with back to back Ulster finals?

Not that college/schools football doesn't help some players grow but not the reason why you win championships.

Otherwise SW clubs would have dominated the competition since its inception

Hard work and some luck gets you over the line
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Spike

As I said before, 82 a more genuine accomplishment than the noughties gatherups.   

But 82 is a long time ago and now you're surviving in div 1 by the skin of your teeth.   You go down to div 2 you won't be coming up again


Milltown Row2

Quote from: Spike on March 17, 2024, 10:09:54 AMAs I said before, 82 a more genuine accomplishment than the noughties gatherups.   

But 82 is a long time ago and now you're surviving in div 1 by the skin of your teeth.   You go down to div 2 you won't be coming up again



Yeah we went down before and came back with two Ulster titles..

Now which club doesn't have/had players from other clubs? If you can name me one in Antrim
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Round or stuffed

Predictions for this weekend

Division 1
All Saints Ballymena v Kickhams GAC Cretan
Naomh Séamus v Tír na Nóg Randalstown
Naomh Mhuire Achadh Eochaille v O'Donavon Rossa
Naomh Eargnait Muine Glás v Roger Casements Portglenone
Naomh Gall v Con Magee's Glenravel
Lamh Dhearg v Clann na hÉireann Carraigin
Naomh Bríd v St. Mary's Aghagallon
Naomh Éanna v Naomh Eoin

Division 2
Gort na Móna v Ciceam Ard Eoin
Naomh Padraig v Naomh Treasa CLG
St. Mary's Rasharkin v Naomh Pól CLG
Pádraig Sáirseil CLG v Naomh Seasamh
Cuchullians Dun Lathaí v CLG MacDaibhéid

Division 3
St. Malachy's v Laochra Loch Lao
Naomh Comghall CLG v Na Pairsaigh
Naomh Úna CLG/St Agnes' GAC v Wolfe Tones GAC
Éire Óg v Cardinal O' Donnell's GAC

Hoof Hearted

going by the weather yesterday at 6.00, a 5.00 pm throw in time is ambitious.
Treble 6 Nations Fantasy Rugby champion 2008, 2011 & 2012

BrendanAntrim

All those games should be moved forward by at least a half hour.

imtommygunn

Were the u20s playing last night? If so how did they get on?

There was a good article in the irish news interviewing Niall Jackman. Pretty much covered what was covered here.

EOC1923

Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2024, 08:25:03 AMWere the u20s playing last night? If so how did they get on?

There was a good article in the irish news interviewing Niall Jackman. Pretty much covered what was covered here.
The game is tonight, they took a fair beating by Tyrone (who are on of the best) but by recent Antrim standards that u20 team has some real good players in it.
Most worrying aspect of the article was the reality that whats coming behind these current u20s is of a much lower standard

imtommygunn

Yeah thought that was worrying too. Ah thought it was last night - cheers.

Spike

Quote from: EOC1923 on March 20, 2024, 08:33:27 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2024, 08:25:03 AMWere the u20s playing last night? If so how did they get on?

There was a good article in the irish news interviewing Niall Jackman. Pretty much covered what was covered here.
The game is tonight, they took a fair beating by Tyrone (who are on of the best) but by recent Antrim standards that u20 team has some real good players in it.
Most worrying aspect of the article was the reality that whats coming behind these current u20s is of a much lower standard

Worrying thought.

Maybe its time for Antrim to take the lead in alternative development rather than following in the slipstream of other counties. What is working for them isn't working for us. We don't appear to be any closer to catching up with the rest of ulster despite Dunsilly and the development squads. The only good thing about being at the bottom is the only way is up.


NorthAntrim

Quote from: Spike on March 20, 2024, 10:00:10 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 20, 2024, 08:33:27 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2024, 08:25:03 AMWere the u20s playing last night? If so how did they get on?

There was a good article in the irish news interviewing Niall Jackman. Pretty much covered what was covered here.
The game is tonight, they took a fair beating by Tyrone (who are on of the best) but by recent Antrim standards that u20 team has some real good players in it.
Most worrying aspect of the article was the reality that whats coming behind these current u20s is of a much lower standard

Worrying thought.

Maybe its time for Antrim to take the lead in alternative development rather than following in the slipstream of other counties. What is working for them isn't working for us. We don't appear to be any closer to catching up with the rest of ulster despite Dunsilly and the development squads. The only good thing about being at the bottom is the only way is up.



To quote Jackaman "I make no apologies for saying it, culturally there's not the same emphasis put on it by players themselves"

There lies the problem with Antrim GAA as a whole

Milltown Row2

#33478
Here are the simple requirements of an intercounty player

Strength and conditioning
Nutrition
Endurance
Pace
Commitment
Attitude
Skill

There are more requirements and I deliberately put skill at the end cause you could have all the skill in the world but if lacking any of the above you won't cut it at intercounty level, at any grade.

We have all got those ballers who are the worst trainers. But give me 15 players with the 6 requirements above skill and I'll work with that over a lazy skillful players.

This is not a dig at any county  or player or management, these are the things a player has to bring to the table first before a manager can decide if he can use him.

The first 6 requirements are an individual thing, its called bluffing if you are not bringing that to the table.

At club level lads will, for their team, bring most of that, and that's why some teams punch above what their county as a hole are doing.

The buy in is a collective and I get that, that's from the set up all the way down to the kit man

The rowing can only be in one direction, someone rowing the other way doesn't work.

The standard needs set by player, by club, by school by parents and so on

For whatever reason, and I'm sure we could chat for another 50 years about it, Antrim does not have it in their locker  like the other Ulster teams 
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

NorthAntrim

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2024, 12:10:48 PMHere are the simple requirements of an intercounty player

Strength and conditioning
Nutrition
Endurance
Pace
Commitment
Attitude
Skill

There are more requirements and I deliberately put skill at the end cause you could have all the skill in the world but if lacking any of the above you won't cut it at intercounty level, at any grade.

We have all got those ballers who are the worst trainers. But give me 15 players with the 6 requirements above skill and I'll work with that over a lazy skillful players.

This is not a dig at any county  or player or management, these are the things a player has to bring to the table first before a manager can decide if he can use him.

The first 6 requirements are an individual thing, its called bluffing if you are not bringing that to the table.

At club level lads will, for their team, bring most of that, and that's why some teams punch above what their county as a hole are doing.

The buy in is a collective and I get that, that's from the set up all the way down to the kit man

The rowing can only be in one direction, someone rowing the other way doesn't work.

The standard needs set by player, by club, by school by parents and so on

For whatever reason, and I'm sure we could chat for another 50 years about it, Antrim does not have it in their locker  like the other Ulster teams 

I think the commitment and the attitude are the two most important. If you dont have them from an early age you're in bother