Antrim Football Thread

[Milltown Row2]

I know that was your original thought. But back then you thought the only contact allowed in GAA was shoulder to shoulder.
Surely that changes things?

You said shoulder charge was legal when's it not!

Shoulder on shoulder is.

Your post on incidental contact was challenging the keeper on blocking the ball!

Not the keeper challenging the forward coming in.

So the only contact allowed is shoulder on shoulder.

In the small square no contact is allowed on keeper, but a player can block his kicking the ball, if there is incidental contact during that play, it's ok..

That not even close to this discussion

[Milltown Row2]

"Charge" as in shoulder charge is defined in the rule book. Look it up. It is legal btw.

The rulebook also states that it is the only deliberate contact allowed. The word deliberate is there for a reason.

Incidental contact is quite obviously allowed.

Look, I get it. You ref for the same club(?) You've a bias here. I don't. I'm not even demanding that he should get it right. But having seen it back, it's clearly an error. You're trying to gaslight us that it's not.

He's a McDermotts man so again you're wrong, I've no bias, i watched it once and gave same call, it's not clearly an error. As for the gaslighting, wise up. I'm happy to stand over calls as I've seen them at the time, or in a lot of cases spoke to players when I've got it wrong..

I've this year alone overturned 2 red cards after being asked to review things.

I've no problems with that.

I've been asked to look at this, I've had a view on it.

If players started to incidentally take players out throughout the game then there'd be no frees!

[Milltown Row2]

He referees for McDermotts?
Talk me through that....

When McDermotts folded he picked a club, as you can't ref for no club. He's from McDermotts.

Why would I have bias? Talk me through that?

[Milltown Row2]

Which club did he pick to ref for?

You're like a two year old

I've asked you why are you saying I'm biased? Are you questioning my integrity?

[Milltown Row2]

Ok, let's set the record straight then.

When I said "You ref for the same club" and you replied that I was "wrong again". I was actually right, wasn't I?

Referees have a degree of loyalty to each other. Rightly too IMO. And of all refs, those who ref for the same club would be most likely to have each other's backs. Surely that makes sense?

I'm bored, you're saying I'm biased.

That's questioning my integrity, someone gets it wrong I've no problems calling it.


He'd be refereeing for McDermotts if they were up and running again..

He picked our club as his son plays for us.

But I'll say it one more time, watched it called it and moved on from it.

If your team loses in that fashion it's tough, but that's not a ref's fault

[GAABoardMod5]

Post up a link to the incident and let the board decide...

[quit yo jibbajabba]

No foul. Great tackle

[Milltown Row2]

No foul. Great tackle

Being from Derry I'll question your bias 

[AntrimRealist]

No foul. Great tackle

MR2 would agree with you except he has to back whatever decision the referee gave

[Milltown Row2]

No foul. Great tackle

MR2 would agree with you except he has to back whatever decision the referee gave

Trust me, I've no issues, there was a sending off recently and I was saying it wasn't (from what I seen) and the vast majority of ref's I spoke to said it was a red..

Goes both ways in fairness, I've had plenty of ref's question calls I've done, It's not a biggy or something to worry about.

There is only one whistle and one go at it. The players have plenty of chances to win or lose a game, this team coughed up 6 points in 2 minutes?

[GTP]

No foul. Great tackle

MR2 would agree with you except he has to back whatever decision the referee gave

Trust me, I've no issues, there was a sending off recently and I was saying it wasn't (from what I seen) and the vast majority of ref's I spoke to said it was a red..

Goes both ways in fairness, I've had plenty of ref's question calls I've done, It's not a biggy or something to worry about.

There is only one whistle and one go at it. The players have plenty of chances to win or lose a game, this team coughed up 6 points in 2 minutes?

I don't think anyone has said the referee cost Magherafelt the match and 3 of those 6 points did come as a direct result of the decision to give the penalty.
In the video the referee can briefly be seen in a good position on the edge of the D with a clear view of the ball as the attacker gains possession. The attacker moves left as the referee is looking at it and based on the video this would put 2 or 3 Magherafelt players in the referee's line of sight. He would also have the attacker's body blocking his view of the goalkeeper and his actions. So the referee was in position but and I appreciate this is speculating the play quickly moved in a direction were perhaps he was unsighted and unable to get himself a clear view. He will have seen the attacker go to strike his shot then almost immediately go over the top of the keeper and down. I am guessing but it probably did look like a foul and penalty from behind the play where the referee was, getting his one and only view of the incident.
I still think it was an incorrect decision, but perhaps an understandable one for the referee to make rather than a very poor one as stated previously.

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

No foul. Great tackle

My initial reaction too. Hasn't changed despite watching it several times.

[BelSaft]

MR2 - Haven't read back through all the comments and maybe this has been queried. But would it have been wise for the Referee to consult his umpires given such a crucial decision at an important time in the match? Although maybe the penalty only bringing it back to a 3 point game didn't seem like such a crucial decision at the time?

[Would ye whist]

I can see from Colm's position why he gave the call he did, however I cannot see why his umpires did not give him a nudge and say it seemed like a clean tackle, unless they also agree it was a penalty

MR2, can I ask what contact is allowed with a goal keeper within the small square? I always believed he could be tackled but not shouldered?

[InnocentByStander]

As I started the debate id like to weigh in. Brilliant bit of goalkeeping saves the ball between the stage of dropping the ball from hand to foot, only contact made with forward is due to the forward being in motion of kicking the ball takes him into the goalkeeper. If you pause it you can see the initial contact is with the ball and doesn't touch the man until the fella's momentum takes him into the keeper. 

Its honestly incredible goalkeeping great save/block.

I see how everyone has different opinions but your reasoning for saying its a foul MR2 is wrong as there is no contact with the man until after ball is blocked/saved.

P.S Pause the video at 16 seconds