Antrim Hurling

[imtommygunn]

The ladies football club final is in Croke Park on Sat December 16 and the ladies club camogie final the following day, also in Croke Park.

A there was a big furore about the ladies football the other year. That maybe changed it.

[johnnycool]

So age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year

Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

[NAG1]

So age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year

Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

[johnnycool]

So age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year

Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

Also, intercounty minor is staying at 17, so you'll have club minor at 18 and IC at 17.

[NAG1]

So age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year

Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Madness

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

Also, intercounty minor is staying at 17, so you'll have club minor at 18 and IC at 17.

[SaffronSports]

So age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year

Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

[johnnycool]

So age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year

Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.

[marty34]

So age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year

Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.

Yeah, all great at the time.  The times thst were in it. When you look back on it, crazy stuff altogether.

Regarding the age groups, even ages, then od ages at inter-county.  It's a bit of a mess.

Big step up after primary school now in north.  Are all counties sticking with U7.5, U9.5 and U11.5 at primary school level?

Then up to U13's at secondary school?

[johnnycool]

So age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year

Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.

Yeah, all great at the time.  The times thst were in it. When you look back on it, crazy stuff altogether.

Regarding the age groups, even ages, then od ages at inter-county.  It's a bit of a mess.

Big step up after primary school now in north.  Are all counties sticking with U7.5, U9.5 and U11.5 at primary school level?

Then up to U13's at secondary school?

Down go U12 but that's still Go Games with U14 being "two-touch" and not full rules

[marty34]

So age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year

Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.

Yeah, all great at the time.  The times thst were in it. When you look back on it, crazy stuff altogether.

Regarding the age groups, even ages, then od ages at inter-county.  It's a bit of a mess.

Big step up after primary school now in north.  Are all counties sticking with U7.5, U9.5 and U11.5 at primary school level?

Then up to U13's at secondary school?

Down go U12 but that's still Go Games with U14 being "two-touch" and not full rules

So age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year

Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.

Yeah, all great at the time.  The times thst were in it. When you look back on it, crazy stuff altogether.

Regarding the age groups, even ages, then od ages at inter-county.  It's a bit of a mess.

Big step up after primary school now in north.  Are all counties sticking with U7.5, U9.5 and U11.5 at primary school level?

Then up to U13's at secondary school?

Down go U12 but that's still Go Games with U14 being "two-touch" and not full rules

What's below U12 JC.

I understand the logic behind 2 touch but it penalises the stronger/better/more skillful players.

I think they should play full rules at U 14.

[johnnycool]

So age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year

Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.

Yeah, all great at the time.  The times thst were in it. When you look back on it, crazy stuff altogether.

Regarding the age groups, even ages, then od ages at inter-county.  It's a bit of a mess.

Big step up after primary school now in north.  Are all counties sticking with U7.5, U9.5 and U11.5 at primary school level?

Then up to U13's at secondary school?

Down go U12 but that's still Go Games with U14 being "two-touch" and not full rules

So age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year

Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.

Yeah, all great at the time.  The times thst were in it. When you look back on it, crazy stuff altogether.

Regarding the age groups, even ages, then od ages at inter-county.  It's a bit of a mess.

Big step up after primary school now in north.  Are all counties sticking with U7.5, U9.5 and U11.5 at primary school level?

Then up to U13's at secondary school?

Down go U12 but that's still Go Games with U14 being "two-touch" and not full rules

What's below U12 JC.

I understand the logic behind 2 touch but it penalises the stronger/better/more skillful players.

I think they should play full rules at U 14.

Below U12 is still to be decided, either P6, P4 or U10, U8. I'd prefer primary school ages for the simple reason it keeps class mates together for that bit longer. We pull from the one primary school so assists us more than some other clubs where it's probably not big of a deal.

As for two touch penalising stronger players, I don't really buy that as the only thing they can't do is solo run, you'd want to coaching lads at that age "heads up" hurling rather than the bigger lads putting the ball on the end of their hurl, running 20 or 30 metres and sticking the ball in the net.

[barnish oggie]

So age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year

Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.

Yeah, all great at the time.  The times thst were in it. When you look back on it, crazy stuff altogether.

Regarding the age groups, even ages, then od ages at inter-county.  It's a bit of a mess.

Big step up after primary school now in north.  Are all counties sticking with U7.5, U9.5 and U11.5 at primary school level?

Then up to U13's at secondary school?

Down go U12 but that's still Go Games with U14 being "two-touch" and not full rules

So age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year

Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.

Yeah, all great at the time.  The times thst were in it. When you look back on it, crazy stuff altogether.

Regarding the age groups, even ages, then od ages at inter-county.  It's a bit of a mess.

Big step up after primary school now in north.  Are all counties sticking with U7.5, U9.5 and U11.5 at primary school level?

Then up to U13's at secondary school?

Down go U12 but that's still Go Games with U14 being "two-touch" and not full rules

What's below U12 JC.

I understand the logic behind 2 touch but it penalises the stronger/better/more skillful players.

I think they should play full rules at U 14.

Below U12 is still to be decided, either P6, P4 or U10, U8. I'd prefer primary school ages for the simple reason it keeps class mates together for that bit longer. We pull from the one primary school so assists us more than some other clubs where it's probably not big of a deal.

As for two touch penalising stronger players, I don't really buy that as the only thing they can't do is solo run, you'd want to coaching lads at that age "heads up" hurling rather than the bigger lads putting the ball on the end of their hurl, running 20 or 30 metres and sticking the ball in the net.

Yes, Primary School should be kept as that.

P2/P3, P4/P5, P6/P7 all together.

Not fair on some P7s having to step up to playing against Secondary school children and half their class mates are still with their classmates.
 

[Oso]

I disagree regarding 2 touch at U14 level though I do think the distance one player is allowed to carry the ball should be limited or refined.

Promoting 2 touch does force players to play with more of a head up approach, however that's also part of their coaching and we shouldn't need a rule for them to see that.... Just better coaching.

I think 2 touch discourages the smaller and weaker players from carrying the ball into contact and taking an opponent on directly because they run out of steps too quickly. That's a massive part of the game that we should be coaching at a key development stage like u14, not discouraging.

[Milltown Row2]

I disagree regarding 2 touch at U14 level though I do think the distance one player is allowed to carry the ball should be limited or refined.

Promoting 2 touch does force players to play with more of a head up approach, however that's also part of their coaching and we shouldn't need a rule for them to see that.... Just better coaching.

I think 2 touch discourages the smaller and weaker players from carrying the ball into contact and taking an opponent on directly because they run out of steps too quickly. That's a massive part of the game that we should be coaching at a key development stage like u14, not discouraging.

In hurling, as a coach, I wouldn't encourage carrying the ball into contact or taking a player on.

It's about releasing the ball early into space for an attacker to run on to, diagonal balls whipped in at pace, runners collecting the ball from off the shoulder of a player who wins primary possession.

Taking a player on invites a defender to tackle, running at an opponent allows the chance of a hook or a block.

Those are (for me) the basics that juveniles should be looking at.

There is a massive investment in developing the skills that speed up the game, striking on the move left/right, one handed dips without breaking stride, heads up hurling, spacial awareness and so on.

But get the fundamentals right first and everything should follow after that.

[Oso]

Well that's your view. It's not something I agree with or Woody would agree with in his coaching sessions.

Committing the defender is often how to create the space for the runner and the overlap and how to create the space to get a shot at goal.

Don't take commit the defender as a forward you are forced away from goal and into wide areas, too easy to play against.

And u14s need to develop their movement, spacial awareness and footwork in this regard.