Man Utd Thread:

NAG1 · August 15, 2023, 09:08:20 AM

Good to get off the line with a win but no doubt they rode their luck.

Definitely seem off the pace fitness wise, don't think I've ever seen them turn the ball over as easily and frequently in one single game. Against a team with a proper striker it would definitely have been a different result.

Very much like the Liverpool Chelsea game Sunday, the lack of defensive midfielders was glaring. Casimero as good as he was last season won't be able to play DMF on his on and it showed last night. Problem with that is that it will affect the dynamic of the team having to play 2 holding mid fielders.

Be interesting to see if there is any more activity in this window, I would imagine if they can get Maguire out they may go back out but looks like McTominay may have to fill the gap for another season.

trailer · August 15, 2023, 09:13:47 AM

Quote from: snoopdog on August 15, 2023, 09:00:58 AM
It was a pen from what I seen. Utd got very lucky last night. A better team would've hammerred them. 3 points in the bag a lot of work to do for spurs on sat. Mount and casemiro were very poor last night. Garnacho not yet a starter.

Garnacho lost the ball over and over again. Took the wrong option too many times. Lots to learn.
Agree on Casemiro and Mount.
Thought Fernandes had a shocker as well.

EtH has his work cut out.

statto · August 15, 2023, 09:20:28 AM

Quote from: trailer on August 15, 2023, 09:13:47 AM
Quote from: snoopdog on August 15, 2023, 09:00:58 AM
It was a pen from what I seen. Utd got very lucky last night. A better team would've hammerred them. 3 points in the bag a lot of work to do for spurs on sat. Mount and casemiro were very poor last night. Garnacho not yet a starter.

Garnacho lost the ball over and over again. Took the wrong option too many times. Lots to learn.
Agree on Casemiro and Mount.
Thought Fernandes had a shocker as well.

EtH has his work cut out.

To be fair to Fernandes he showed the only bit of quality from United in the game with the pass to AWB resulting in the goal.

Sancho looked the best of the wide players United had and that is a bad position to be in.

Milltown Row2 · August 15, 2023, 09:33:57 AM

Only watched the first 45 minutes, that's all I could bare the standard was that shite, Wolves pressed and Utd couldn't work the ball, the only chances in that half were coughed up mistakes.

Not sure if they are trying a new system and the players were unsure or that they were nervous or under pressure to get the win, but on that showing they will struggle against teams with better players who take their chances

Captain Scarlet · August 15, 2023, 11:15:40 AM

There were times when the entire midfield hid behind players when Onanna had the ball at his feet.

They literally didn't move at all. Rashford, Garnacho and Anthony were all terrible too.

An Watcher · August 15, 2023, 11:33:31 AM

Haha, must be a wind up. Forward nicks the ball past the keeper and keeper clatters him then it's a penalty. Always the way. Happened last night and no penalty. Very odd

jcpen · August 15, 2023, 11:47:28 AM

I thought it was pretty obvious that was a penalty. If you don't think it was then I guess people really do see what they want to see...

trueblue1234 · August 15, 2023, 12:34:30 PM

Think even most United fans accept it should have been a penalty. But feck it, wasn't called and they got the 3 points. I honestly can't see how it wasn't a penalty. They didn't ask the ref to re look at it or did they?

gallsman · August 15, 2023, 06:46:47 PM

Where'd Seanie's post go?

Dag Dog · August 16, 2023, 09:41:02 AM

Quote from: An Watcher on August 15, 2023, 11:33:31 AM
Haha, must be a wind up. Forward nicks the ball past the keeper and keeper clatters him then it's a penalty. Always the way. Happened last night and no penalty. Very odd

You've described a case where the forward has control of the ball.
Players regularly collide when going up for a cross. Those aren't given as penalties.

Square Ball · August 16, 2023, 10:29:06 AM

Harry going to fight for his place.

From the BBC

Harry Maguire's move to West Ham is off with the defender intent on staying at Manchester United to fight for his place in the first team.

The England international, 30, looked set to join the Hammers after a £30m fee was agreed between the clubs.

Maguire struggled for first-team opportunities last season and was stripped of the captaincy this season.

However, United have maintained they would respect his wishes and did not want to push him out of the club.

trailer · August 16, 2023, 10:47:46 AM

Quote from: Square Ball on August 16, 2023, 10:29:06 AM
Harry going to fight for his place.

From the BBC

Harry Maguire's move to West Ham is off with the defender intent on staying at Manchester United to fight for his place in the first team.

The England international, 30, looked set to join the Hammers after a £30m fee was agreed between the clubs.

Maguire struggled for first-team opportunities last season and was stripped of the captaincy this season.

However, United have maintained they would respect his wishes and did not want to push him out of the club.

He'll rot on the bench and lose his England place for the Euros. Not the smartest tool our Arry.

snoopdog · August 16, 2023, 11:48:13 AM

Quote from: trailer on August 16, 2023, 10:47:46 AM
Quote from: Square Ball on August 16, 2023, 10:29:06 AM
Harry going to fight for his place.

From the BBC

Harry Maguire's move to West Ham is off with the defender intent on staying at Manchester United to fight for his place in the first team.

The England international, 30, looked set to join the Hammers after a £30m fee was agreed between the clubs.

Maguire struggled for first-team opportunities last season and was stripped of the captaincy this season.

However, United have maintained they would respect his wishes and did not want to push him out of the club.

He'll rot on the bench and lose his England place for the Euros. Not the smartest tool our Arry.

If he moves to West ham and is as shit he def won't be going to the euros. I had a feeling he wouldn't want to go to West ham.

gallsman · August 16, 2023, 11:48:30 AM

He's going to get paid a massive amount more than he would have at West ham. Think he's smart enough.

Have to laugh at the arrogance of big clubs simply expecting players to voluntarily give up truck loads of cash that they're contractually entitled to so that the club can receive a transfer fee.

NAG1 · August 16, 2023, 11:55:53 AM

Quote from: gallsman on August 16, 2023, 11:48:30 AM
He's going to get paid a massive amount more than he would have at West ham. Think he's smart enough.

Have to laugh at the arrogance of big clubs simply expecting players to voluntarily give up truck loads of cash that they're contractually entitled to so that the club can receive a transfer fee.

He is angling for a bigger pay out, he goes now he would be entitled to 15m if the club are looking him out.

Apparently he has been offered 6m, I would imagine there is a compromise to be had there. More money to get him off the books and he wants to be playing regularly coming up to the Euros.