The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

J70 · January 19, 2021, 11:44:02 AM

Quote from: yewtree on January 18, 2021, 07:49:34 PM
Good enough result for us considering no natural centre backs .We dominated play and unlucky with Bobby's strike.
If The Mancs can't beat us with a makeshift defence they are living in Space.
With injuries cleared up and possible a centre half in the window plenty of time left for us to re-establish our top position.

FSG's record would suggest no new centre half though. Unless the past few games shake them out of Champions League qualification complacency.

Burnley up next.

If there is one thing they're good at, its sitting deep heading away aimless crosses from the corner of the area.

I hope I'm wrong, but I forsee another frustrating 0-0 or worse.

blewuporstuffed · January 19, 2021, 01:03:39 PM

My feeling would be that Klopp/ Edwards have identified a centre half they want (and can get) for the long term in the summer. Possibly FSG have said, if you go for a short term fix now, the money wont be there for the guy you really want.
Alot of chat about the possiblity of Militoa available on loan from Real. I havent seen him play at all, but he is a Brazil international and to me that would sense as a low cost short term fix at least until they get the guy they want.

brokencrossbar1 · January 19, 2021, 01:45:23 PM

Quote from: blewuporstuffed on January 19, 2021, 01:03:39 PM
My feeling would be that Klopp/ Edwards have identified a centre half they want (and can get) for the long term in the summer. Possibly FSG have said, if you go for a short term fix now, the money wont be there for the guy you really want.
Alot of chat about the possiblity of Militoa available on loan from Real. I havent seen him play at all, but he is a Brazil international and to me that would sense as a low cost short term fix at least until they get the guy they want.

Was reading an article that an issue is the possibility that VVD is well ahead of schedule with his return and to add another body to the squad would impede the possibility that he could be in the CL squad. I really don't see another one being brought in. If one was on the horizon he would have been signed the 1st January given the games that are in January.

Dire Ear · January 19, 2021, 03:03:02 PM

League was lost here.. Newcastle United 0 Liverpool 0 -- Liverpool 1 West Bromwich 1---Fulham 1 Liverpool 1--- and of course Southampton
QED

J70 · January 21, 2021, 07:05:49 PM

Salah and Firmino on the bench tonight. They can't complain.

Henderson rested. Matip back.

Surprised Minamino not starting. Maybe he wants Origi's size in there against Burnley's backs.

J70 · January 21, 2021, 09:33:20 PM

WTF is wrong with them?

Its just so sloppy and slow. And even when they do carve open a good chance, they couldn't hit a barn door.

Gabriel_Hurl · January 21, 2021, 09:43:10 PM

a shambles

Milltown Row2 · January 21, 2021, 09:53:37 PM

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 21, 2021, 09:43:10 PM
a shambles

No, they are doing fine

delgany · January 21, 2021, 09:54:36 PM

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 21, 2021, 09:43:10 PM
a shambles

Pathetic ...not a clue how to break down a 8 man blanket defence saturating the penalty box

JoG2 · January 21, 2021, 09:57:40 PM

Quote from: laoislad on January 21, 2021, 09:53:44 PM
Fair play to Burnley. Who the hell knows what's gone wrong with Liverpool.
I said after Sunday Top 4 was in danger, after that tonight they now have a massive fight for Top 4.
League is gone, forget about it. This is Roy Hodgson levels of bad.

Can't see top 4 myself tbh. Henderson had to be injured? With Matip back, not playing him if fit was a brutal decision.

bennydorano · January 21, 2021, 09:59:21 PM

Why did the penalty not go to VAR?? Never a penalty

J70 · January 21, 2021, 10:02:26 PM

Too many off-form, tired, stale players. They don't have the speed and touch to do the quick give and go's which were working so well the last couple of years at breaking down packed defenses. I honestly cannot see where a goal is coming from. How many balls did TAA clip onto the head of the first defender? Even when Origi went through unchallenged, you knew he wouldn't score!

This season is a write-off. The form of the other teams might keep them in touch with top four, IF they can get going over the next few weeks, but they won't finish within 20 points of the top.

Leipzig must be rubbing their hands in glee!

As must United for this weekend.

Just have to grind through it, hope to qualify for the Champions League, and start again next season. They've hit the wall for now.

Captain Obvious · January 21, 2021, 10:04:43 PM

Few expected Burnley to end Liverpools unbeaten run at home. 1974 since they went home with all 3 points from Anfield.

Milltown Row2 · January 21, 2021, 10:07:57 PM

While it may look depressing, Liverpool are a quality team suffering with injuries and a disjointed team, if they don't buy a CH a midfielder and an attacker to replace Origi then they'll not improve.

Unreal last two seasons, that can't just go like that. Burnley are grafters.

trileacman · January 22, 2021, 12:31:42 AM

Pundits completely missing the point again. Loss of the centre halfs has nothing to do with it. I don't even see the need to buy one unless we trade Matip out. It's not our defence that's the problem it's the attack and in particular Firmino. He's done, past it. When he's in form we're unstoppable like against Cyrstal Palace but those days are as rare as hens teeth. He's constantly butchering chances, slowing down the attack, taking the wrong option. If we'd an absolute world class centre forward it would solve a lot of our problems. A goal scorer with a very good touch who can link the play with those around him. The 2 best players in the world at it are lewandoski and Haland. Lewandoski is past it so unless anyone else knows a 9 who likes to play on the break but can also bring other players into it when holding the ball up.

The next big problem is TAA. He's bad, like so bad that I'd play anyone ahead of him at right back. His form is even worse than Firmino, everything he touches is turning to shit. His greatest assest, his passing is completely gone awry, if he doesn't get a good break from the 1st team he'll never get over this slump. I don't know if its mental or burnout or what his problem is but he needs a good break from football to clear his head.

Lastly Klopp is letting us down badly against these teams who sit back and play narrow. We're constantly trying to play through the centre and getting nowhere. The team needs to either play crosses in behind the defence from 30 yards or else run the sideline and get in behind the full backs to get in crosses. Balls delivered into the box between keeper and a backtracking defence punishes teams with a lot of men back because there's a much greater chance someone will poke the ball past their own keeper. We spent the entire last 30 mins trying to play the ball through 10 men camped on the edge of the box. It was never going to work.