Man Utd Thread:

[Look-Up!]

Utd have bought plenty of young talent though and the academy has brought some of the current players through. It doesn't entirely fit with the narrative going around at the moment that they've gone for over the hill players. You need to buy both experienced and young players, some of them will come good, some won't. I don't think the current age profile of the squad is that bad. If the board have erred in anything it's their choice of managers, OGS being the biggest mistake.
This nonsense of going back to Utd's roots and the Fergie way. That's just sentimental crap. AF had plenty of problems to deal with. He got plenty of flak and accusations that he had let the squad deteriorate. Rooney wanted to jump ship from lack of club ambition. They won the title that year though. He bought a 30 year old striker from Arsenal. They won the title that year. He got on with it and worked with what he had to get the very best out of them. He let no one go at any cost if he didn't have cover. He was loyal to ordinary players who put in a shift. He always had goal scorers in the team. And if anyone in the media every criticized his players or squad however justified, he would go absolutely nuclear with them and always defended his players to the last. He was a crisis manager, the very best.
There seems a major reluctance at the moment to say anything against Solskjaer. He's the golden boy for now. I'd love to know what the players really think of him. People can blame the board for everything but once they sign the contract it's down to management after that. City and Liverpool are lucky at the moment with their managers. Congratulate their boards on the signings if people like but under bad management those signings may never have flourished.
Utd need a strong man in charge like what City and Liverpool have. Get a striker in and then see what tune the team plays. See what players thrive and then tweak the squad after that. 
 

[Cunny Funt]

Man Utd won't get relegated but they could really end up out of the top 6 and Europe again and in the past that was enough to sack Moyes, LVG and Maureen so why would OGS be any different?

OGS was a temporary fix who joined with a run of favourable fixtures to come, the win over PSG in Paris was fortunate but give credit where it's due.

Thereafter the ex united players in the media and supporters jumped on the OGS bus without any form of actual due diligence into what was taking place.

Where Utd are seriously going wrong is in the boardroom.

When everyone was crying for OGS to become manager there needed to be cool, critical thinking at executive level with a good understanding of the product (football) rather than revenue streams and who can sell the most jerseys and raise the profile short term.

James will prove to be a good purchase providing further good purchases are made to support the team.
The wee right back may also be a decent buy but he was bought on a whim and the jury may still be out on him.
Harry Maguire was bough purely because he was an England centre back, but he's functional enough to be the leader of the defensive unit really crying out for someone to take hold if it. Maguire may well be come that player but he doesn't show that for England and Leicester didn't exactly fall apart when he left.

Much for Ole to do but the boardroom are to blame for most of it.

I'd say the 11 league and cup fixtures he's had this season was more favourable. No away wins since that match in Paris, before it United beat Cardiff,Spurs,Newcastle,Leicester,Fulham,Palace,Chelsea,Arsenal all away playing an attacking brand of football. Nowadays two holding midfielders are chosen every game and with each poor result the confidence of the players has become lower and lower.

Defensive options are okay moving forward, Wan Bissaka,Maguire look like good signings, Shaw,Linedlof are decent and Tuanzebe,Williams have the potential to be good long term defenders.   Rojo,Jones and Young need to be offloaded ASAP.

Midfield is championship level along with Pogba who doesn't want to be there. Biggest mistake was selling Herrera who was providing leadership in the middle of the park and not replacing him. Fred signed for 50 million has become the latest Brazillian flop alongsie Anderson and Kleberson.

Striker options are Rashford who hasn't played well since that injury v Liverpool in Feb, an injury prone Martial and a teen Greenwood. Very light on options of course but you could have RVP at his peak playing in this current United team and he would struggle to score many goals as few clear cut chances are even created.

[Ed Ricketts]

Midfield is championship level along with Pogba who doesn't want to be there. Biggest mistake was selling Herrera who was providing leadership in the middle of the park and not replacing him. Fred signed for 50 million has become the latest Brazillian flop alongsie Anderson and Kleberson.

It's worse than that. At least if they'd sold him they could've gotten a bit of money out of it. They let his contract run down and he walked away for nothing. But Woodward et al. still made sure to find the time and money to offer contact extensions to Young, Smalling and Jones in the last 12 months. Nothing the club has done in the last five years makes any footballing sense. There is no vision for the future beyond sourcing the next noodle or mattress partner. It's a broken football club.

This is the only squad that really matters to those that run the show:
www.manutd.com/en/partners/global

[Ball Hopper]

Midfield is championship level along with Pogba who doesn't want to be there. Biggest mistake was selling Herrera who was providing leadership in the middle of the park and not replacing him. Fred signed for 50 million has become the latest Brazillian flop alongsie Anderson and Kleberson.

It's worse than that. At least if they'd sold him they could've gotten a bit of money out of it. They let his contract run down and he walked away for nothing. But Woodward et al. still made sure to find the time and money to offer contact extensions to Young, Smalling and Jones in the last 12 months. Nothing the club has done in the last five years makes any footballing sense. There is no vision for the future beyond sourcing the next noodle or mattress partner. It's a broken football club.

This is the only squad that really matters to those that run the show:
www.manutd.com/en/partners/global

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[Joeythelips]

Midfield is championship level along with Pogba who doesn't want to be there. Biggest mistake was selling Herrera who was providing leadership in the middle of the park and not replacing him. Fred signed for 50 million has become the latest Brazillian flop alongsie Anderson and Kleberson.

It's worse than that. At least if they'd sold him they could've gotten a bit of money out of it. They let his contract run down and he walked away for nothing. But Woodward et al. still made sure to find the time and money to offer contact extensions to Young, Smalling and Jones in the last 12 months. Nothing the club has done in the last five years makes any footballing sense. There is no vision for the future beyond sourcing the next noodle or mattress partner. It's a broken football club.

This is the only squad that really matters to those that run the show:
www.manutd.com/en/partners/global

Also I would love to see a list of united players wages, it seems every player is on silly wages including young players like Rashford and poor players like Phil Jones something that did not happen under Ferguson era, it seems to be a really bad run club on the football side of things that is for sure.

[Farrandeelin]

Hmmm I'm sure this thread will be bumped up top on Sunday evening. Pogba and De Gea out. It'll probably end up 0-4 being optimistic about it.

[HiMucker]

Midfield is championship level along with Pogba who doesn't want to be there. Biggest mistake was selling Herrera who was providing leadership in the middle of the park and not replacing him. Fred signed for 50 million has become the latest Brazillian flop alongsie Anderson and Kleberson.

It's worse than that. At least if they'd sold him they could've gotten a bit of money out of it. They let his contract run down and he walked away for nothing. But Woodward et al. still made sure to find the time and money to offer contact extensions to Young, Smalling and Jones in the last 12 months. Nothing the club has done in the last five years makes any footballing sense. There is no vision for the future beyond sourcing the next noodle or mattress partner. It's a broken football club.

This is the only squad that really matters to those that run the show:
www.manutd.com/en/partners/global

Also I would love to see a list of united players wages, it seems every player is on silly wages including young players like Rashford and poor players like Phil Jones something that did not happen under Ferguson era, it seems to be a really bad run club on the football side of things that is for sure.

Ferguson signed Jones for what was big money at the time, and he was on big wages from the get go. The wages are always going to be massive if players are signed for 20,30,40 mil

[Boycey]

Midfield is championship level along with Pogba who doesn't want to be there. Biggest mistake was selling Herrera who was providing leadership in the middle of the park and not replacing him. Fred signed for 50 million has become the latest Brazillian flop alongsie Anderson and Kleberson.

It's worse than that. At least if they'd sold him they could've gotten a bit of money out of it. They let his contract run down and he walked away for nothing. But Woodward et al. still made sure to find the time and money to offer contact extensions to Young, Smalling and Jones in the last 12 months. Nothing the club has done in the last five years makes any footballing sense. There is no vision for the future beyond sourcing the next noodle or mattress partner. It's a broken football club.

This is the only squad that really matters to those that run the show:
www.manutd.com/en/partners/global

Also I would love to see a list of united players wages, it seems every player is on silly wages including young players like Rashford and poor players like Phil Jones something that did not happen under Ferguson era, it seems to be a really bad run club on the football side of things that is for sure.

Ferguson signed Jones for what was big money at the time, and he was on big wages from the get go. The wages are always going to be massive if players are signed for 20,30,40 mil

Just not true...

[Geoff Tipps]

Midfield is championship level along with Pogba who doesn't want to be there. Biggest mistake was selling Herrera who was providing leadership in the middle of the park and not replacing him. Fred signed for 50 million has become the latest Brazillian flop alongsie Anderson and Kleberson.

It's worse than that. At least if they'd sold him they could've gotten a bit of money out of it. They let his contract run down and he walked away for nothing. But Woodward et al. still made sure to find the time and money to offer contact extensions to Young, Smalling and Jones in the last 12 months. Nothing the club has done in the last five years makes any footballing sense. There is no vision for the future beyond sourcing the next noodle or mattress partner. It's a broken football club.

This is the only squad that really matters to those that run the show:
www.manutd.com/en/partners/global

Also I would love to see a list of united players wages, it seems every player is on silly wages including young players like Rashford and poor players like Phil Jones something that did not happen under Ferguson era, it seems to be a really bad run club on the football side of things that is for sure.

Ferguson signed Jones for what was big money at the time, and he was on big wages from the get go. The wages are always going to be massive if players are signed for 20,30,40 mil

Just not true...

Which part?

[Boycey]

Which part would ya think?

[Geoff Tipps]

Which part would ya think?

No idea. You've highlighted both so you're suggesting both are false.

[Boycey]

I didnt, I highlighted the untrue one, the other one is a matter of opinion.

[Ed Ricketts]

Jones was signed for big money. £16.5 million up front, with talk that went past £20 million with add-ons. That was very big money for a teenage defender in 2011. Probably only 5 or 6 clubs in the world paying those sorts of fees around then.

It seems his wages were relatively modest originally, though. It's only in recent years that the club have been doling out stupid money.

[NAG1]

So whats the likely line up for Sunday then.

DeGea out, Pogba out and AWB a doubt, Martial not match fit.

Romero
Young
Maguire
Lindelof
Dalot
McTominay
Matic
Pereira
James
Rashford
Linegard

Not much left after this really?

[GetOverTheBar]

So whats the likely line up for Sunday then.

DeGea out, Pogba out and AWB a doubt, Martial not match fit.

Romero
Young
Maguire
Lindelof
Dalot
McTominay
Matic
Pereira
James
Rashford
Linegard

Not much left after this really?

That side gets slaughtered by Liverpool. Solskjear will be under immense pressure come Monday morning if so.