The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

[gawa316]

Nervy minute or so at the end. Good response after that early burnley goal which was a diabolical decision

[Capt Pat]

Just saw the first city goal on motd2. What was the ref thinking? There was no decision to be made. That could end up costing Liverpool the title.

[Milltown Row2]

Just saw the first city goal on motd2. What was the ref thinking? There was no decision to be made. That could end up costing Liverpool the title.

City won 3-1. No goal given that's still a 2-1 win

[TabClear]

Good win yesterday to keep in touch with City. Fabinho continues to impress. Hope TAA just has a niggle as we will need him against BM. Should really have scored about six or seven, Burnley were all over the shop at the back. Salah had a good assist yesterday and very busy but very few things going right for him at the minute in terms of his touch, passing and finishing. I think he was looking a penalty just before the Mane 1st goal. I may be being unfair if he just went over in the (fair) tackle, but it looked a bit theatrical. 

[Carmen Stateside]

Comfortable enough win which was needed with a big game wednesday.  Agree about Fabinho, he's been excellent since the turn of the year.  Lallana also had a good game despite my thoughts about him beforehand.  Provided energy which the others seem to feed off.
Having watched most of the top six over the weekend, the gulf between the top 2 and the rest is massive.

[laoislad]

Just saw the first city goal on motd2. What was the ref thinking? There was no decision to be made. That could end up costing Liverpool the title.

City may have went on to win anyway,  but they may not have either.That goal changed the game completely,  City's second goal was a direct result of the first been given as Watford were still all over the place from it.
Been a bad week for officials giving goals and penalties that shouldn't have been. The first Burnley goal was another joke of a goal yesterday.

[TabClear]

https://www.empireofthekop.com/2019/03/11/sean-dyche-has-cheek-to-be-angry-with-referee-after-liverpool-loss/

While Dyche might be suffering from selective amnesia he has a point on the Firmino "handball". I thought that at the time (I was actually raging at Firmino because I thought there was an opportunity to break)!  Ref definitely had not blown when Bobby caught the ball.

[J70]

Good win yesterday to keep in touch with City. Fabinho continues to impress. Hope TAA just has a niggle as we will need him against BM. Should really have scored about six or seven, Burnley were all over the shop at the back. Salah had a good assist yesterday and very busy but very few things going right for him at the minute in terms of his touch, passing and finishing. I think he was looking a penalty just before the Mane 1st goal. I may be being unfair if he just went over in the (fair) tackle, but it looked a bit theatrical.

You're being unfair. It was a good tackle and not a penalty, but the defender cleaned Salah out of it in the follow through.

The one for Firmino's second goal would have been interesting if Firmino hadn't scored from the loose ball. Didn't look too clean to me in terms of getting the ball.

But thankfully it didn't matter.

I thought Salah had a good game overall.

[David McKeown]

Just saw the first city goal on motd2. What was the ref thinking? There was no decision to be made. That could end up costing Liverpool the title.

City may have went on to win anyway,  but they may not have either.That goal changed the game completely,  City's second goal was a direct result of the first been given as Watford were still all over the place from it.
Been a bad week for officials giving goals and penalties that shouldn't have been. The first Burnley goal was another joke of a goal yesterday.

Apart from the fact that it was the correct decision based on the current stupid interpretation of the rules. Sterling doesn't interfere with play (as defined in the rules) until the defender deliberately plays the ball. At that stage the deliberate playing of the ball renders Sterling offside. Don't get me wrong I 100% agree it should be offside all day long I just think by the rules the referee was correct.

[laoislad]

Just saw the first city goal on motd2. What was the ref thinking? There was no decision to be made. That could end up costing Liverpool the title.

City may have went on to win anyway,  but they may not have either.That goal changed the game completely,  City's second goal was a direct result of the first been given as Watford were still all over the place from it.
Been a bad week for officials giving goals and penalties that shouldn't have been. The first Burnley goal was another joke of a goal yesterday.

Apart from the fact that it was the correct decision based on the current stupid interpretation of the rules. Sterling doesn't interfere with play (as defined in the rules) until the defender deliberately plays the ball. At that stage the deliberate playing of the ball renders Sterling offside. Don't get me wrong I 100% agree it should be offside all day long I just think by the rules the referee was correct.

Funny then how former referees have said it was offside. Pep admitted it was offside. Sterling himself has said he got lucky, the MoTD panel all agree it was offside and the wrong call was made.
You know better though.

[Boycey]

Pep didn't say it was offside? He said he didn't know that  some refs say it is some say and some say not. Mark Halsey who has been in the papers about it obviously has an agenda as he's trying to keep himself in the public eye and the MOTD panel are as qualified as the rest of us  .

There does seem to be confusion un what is considered as being 'active' countless times I've seen defenders play balls that they don't have because they  can't take the chance of letting it go and the lino not putting his flag up and more often than not the striker is then allowed play on. 

Just to clarify, for me definitely offside but it seems it's not cut and dried.

[laoislad]

Comfortable enough win which was needed with a big game wednesday.  Agree about Fabinho, he's been excellent since the turn of the year.  Lallana also had a good game despite my thoughts about him beforehand.  Provided energy which the others seem to feed off.
Having watched most of the top six over the weekend, the gulf between the top 2 and the rest is massive.

League tables don't lie as we have often been told....

[David McKeown]

Just saw the first city goal on motd2. What was the ref thinking? There was no decision to be made. That could end up costing Liverpool the title.

City may have went on to win anyway,  but they may not have either.That goal changed the game completely,  City's second goal was a direct result of the first been given as Watford were still all over the place from it.
Been a bad week for officials giving goals and penalties that shouldn't have been. The first Burnley goal was another joke of a goal yesterday.

Apart from the fact that it was the correct decision based on the current stupid interpretation of the rules. Sterling doesn't interfere with play (as defined in the rules) until the defender deliberately plays the ball. At that stage the deliberate playing of the ball renders Sterling offside. Don't get me wrong I 100% agree it should be offside all day long I just think by the rules the referee was correct.

Funny then how former referees have said it was offside. Pep admitted it was offside. Sterling himself has said he got lucky, the MoTD panel all agree it was offside and the wrong call was made.
You know better though.

Strange every referee I have seen said it was letter of the law the correct decision. Again I don't want it to have been but I've yet to see or read anyone who by reference to the rule as written and the directive on same has been able to say it was offside.

The FA have this website.

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside

From that I can't see how Sterling falls into any of the categories for offside. I should add I would far rather have Liverpool win the league than city.

[laoislad]

Just saw the first city goal on motd2. What was the ref thinking? There was no decision to be made. That could end up costing Liverpool the title.

City may have went on to win anyway,  but they may not have either.That goal changed the game completely,  City's second goal was a direct result of the first been given as Watford were still all over the place from it.
Been a bad week for officials giving goals and penalties that shouldn't have been. The first Burnley goal was another joke of a goal yesterday.

Apart from the fact that it was the correct decision based on the current stupid interpretation of the rules. Sterling doesn't interfere with play (as defined in the rules) until the defender deliberately plays the ball. At that stage the deliberate playing of the ball renders Sterling offside. Don't get me wrong I 100% agree it should be offside all day long I just think by the rules the referee was correct.

Funny then how former referees have said it was offside. Pep admitted it was offside. Sterling himself has said he got lucky, the MoTD panel all agree it was offside and the wrong call was made.
You know better though.

Strange every referee I have seen said it was letter of the law the correct decision. Again I don't want it to have been but I've yet to see or read anyone who by reference to the rule as written and the directive on same has been able to say it was offside.

The FA have this website.

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside

From that I can't see how Sterling falls into any of the categories for offside. I should add I would far rather have Liverpool win the league than city.

I couldn't care less who would rather see win the league.
Fact is it was offside, the linesman waved it as such but was bizarrely overruled.
Apparently former Ref Mark Hasley who agrees it was offside isn't  enough for some  so here's another former ref.
Not that it matters now anyway as the goal was given and the game is over. You are entitled to think what you want  I dont agree with you though. That's the end of it as far as I'm concerned.

Peter Walton believes Raheem Sterling's first goal should not have stood
Manchester City were fortunate to see Raheem Sterling's opening goal against Watford stand as the offside flag was correctly raised and the effort should have been ruled out.

That's the view of former Premier League referee Peter Walton, who explained that the defender's contact was not significant enough to overturn the fact that Sterling was offside when Sergio Aguero touched the ball into his path.

The offside flag was raised by the linesman but the referee overturned the decision after consulting his assistant, which broke the deadlock after Watford's valiant defensive showing.

In the course of the title race, Sterling's first goal could prove to be decisive and Walton ultimately argued that Watford, and City's title-rivals Liverpool , have a case to be aggrieved by the decision.

"In my opinion I don't think Sterling has influenced that defender so should have been signalled offside but clearly the match officials think it's a deliberate play by the defender and therefore has put Sterling onside."

Adding further analysis later on in the coverage, Walton went on to explain why there may have been some confusion in the decision made by the officials.

"Was Sterling in an offside position? Yes he was when the ball was passed to him by Aguero, but you'll see now that Sterling is played on because the defender has played the ball on to him and the law says he is not deemed to have gained an advantage.


"However, there is another part of the law that says Sterling makes an obvious action that impacts the ability of the opponent to play the ball then he is offside.

"In my judgement call I thought Sterling was making an obvious attempt to play the ball and therefore influencing the play, but Paul Tierney and his linesman thought differently and therefore ruled it as a goal."

Former Arsenal defender Martin Keown, on co-commentary duty for the match, then shared his view on the situation and said he was in the same boat as Walton.

"I couldn't agree more. He's only getting back to clear it because of the presence of Sterling. They've got that wrong the referee and his assistant," he added.

[Taylor]

As a City fan I thought it was offside and I couldnt have complained if it was disallowed.

However, how many 'offside' decisions have Liverpool benefited from in the last few months?