Man Utd Thread:

Boycey · July 28, 2018, 05:36:25 PM

It's looks to me as if you're equating their performances in the World Cup with how United might perform this season?

If we're going down that road how about the current champions

Ederson - sub on an average Brazil team
Stones - Absolute brainfart in World Cup semi
Walker - solid, steady, boring
Delph - little used sub
Otimendi-Part of a disaster of an Argentina team
Gudogen-Didnt stand out in Germanys worst World Cup performance ever.
Sane- Wasn't even selected for Germanys worst World cup performance ever.
Aguero - Sub on a disaster of an Argentina team.
Jesus - Piss poor
De Bruyne -played well
Sterling - hmmmm

Feck, it's definitely Liverpool's year

gawa316 · July 28, 2018, 06:49:45 PM

Quote from: Boycey on July 28, 2018, 05:36:25 PM
It's looks to me as if you're equating their performances in the World Cup with how United might perform this season?

If we're going down that road how about the current champions

Ederson - sub on an average Brazil team
Stones - Absolute brainfart in World Cup semi
Walker - solid, steady, boring
Delph - little used sub
Otimendi-Part of a disaster of an Argentina team
Gudogen-Didnt stand out in Germanys worst World Cup performance ever.
Sane- Wasn't even selected for Germanys worst World cup performance ever.
Aguero - Sub on a disaster of an Argentina team.
Jesus - Piss poor
De Bruyne -played well
Sterling - hmmmm

Feck, it's definitely Liverpool's year

Yip Lovren and Henderson will be bringing football home

mrdeeds · July 29, 2018, 01:58:51 PM

Jose joint favourite to be first manager gone.

gawa316 · July 30, 2018, 04:58:42 AM

Quote from: mrdeeds on July 29, 2018, 01:58:51 PM
Jose joint favourite to be first manager gone.

A few of his own might put a few bob on that. Threw everyone bar Sanchez and the tea lady under the bus after that loss

nrico2006 · July 30, 2018, 08:12:46 AM

At this stage I wouldn't care if he went, his attitude is terrible and his treatment of players is getting beyond a joke. The like of Sanchez has been terrible yet he gets praise, when there are others who have been good but get slated. Doesn't make sense. I don't blame Martial for wanting to go either, was having a very good season until January and was one of our best forwards yet Sanchez comes in and is played every week even though he was diabolical in every game. The like of Martial got the odd game, and if he didn't produce a clutter of goals he was benched for another month or two.

Over the Bar · July 30, 2018, 11:10:23 AM

Quote from: gawa316 on July 30, 2018, 04:58:42 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 29, 2018, 01:58:51 PM
Jose joint favourite to be first manager gone.
A few of his own might put a few bob on that. Threw everyone bar Sanchez and the tea lady under the bus after that loss

Clever enough by Jose. Send the youngsters out on a hiding to nothing v Liverpool and then bleat about the squad not being good enough to put pressure on Woodward to get transfer targets over the over line in the next 2 weeks.

awideisneverasgood · July 30, 2018, 11:30:24 AM

I would love to see Jose get the boot.
His latest tantrum on the USA tour is embarrassing.

I actually think the squad is pretty good and another manager would be able to get much more out of some of the players.

trailer · July 30, 2018, 12:17:06 PM

JM knows he's not good enough to win the league. The players are, but he's not. It typical from him, throw a tantrum and then get sacked, big payout, move on, not his fault. Utd need shot of him, but who do you get in?

magpie seanie · July 30, 2018, 01:58:48 PM

Glad to see some posters coming round to my opinion.....he never should have been considered for this job. Mourinho's comments over the course of the US tour have been disgraceful as usual. Another season is probably wasted now before it begins. Even that staunchest "wait and see" merchants must surelt be beginning to see United are heading for a meltdown. I just hope when he is sacked that the new manager can salvage something from it. Fixtures run is easy enough early on so it might prolong the agony.

A comment above mentioned about United being the best place for a young player to develop. It was, one time. Now it clearly isn't. Martial could be really special. The manager is doing everything in his power to hound him out of the club. Why? He's not a coach. He cannot develop players. He is a dictator with a plug and play "system" that he buys players to fit.

tiempo · July 30, 2018, 02:34:52 PM

Jose is a sad sad man, how he goes out and spunks a truckload of cash on players, agents and wages and then claims the world is against them is beyond me. Would agree he was a terrible selection to start with and is drawing towards its natural inevitable conclusion. I have to say I would enjoy an absolute meltdown of epic proportions just to see him squirm. It appears to me that Utd have built into the managers contract that as soon as its mathematically impossible to get top 4 they are out on a reduced package (only the Europa League saved Jose in his first season).

I wonder how long into a Moyes-esque omnishambles will Jose and the board face off before one brings an end to it before the maths. I can't see Jose leaving without squeezing every possible penny out of a payoff so he'll stay until the bitter end undermining everything around him at a whim. Any predictions for who this seasons target will be for a freeze out and any surprise entries to a regular starting berth? Could be double Belgian this year, Lukaku frozen out (Sanchez as striker), Fellaini somehow starting every game.

AZOffaly · July 30, 2018, 03:26:48 PM

The pessimism. I think United will finish top 3, and ahead of Liverpool.

Cunny Funt · July 30, 2018, 05:14:50 PM

Quote from: AZOffaly on July 30, 2018, 03:26:48 PM
The pessimism. I think United will finish top 3, and ahead of Liverpool.

I think Liverpool will put in a big effort into the league this season and just come up short while chasing Man City. Man United will do well to finish in the top 4 with Spurs and Chelsea expecting to achieve top 4 finishes. Mourinho is very moany and probably looking to get sacked mid season and what he'll leave behind is a United squad made up of too many players that are either in poor form showing no signs of improvement or players that aren't good enough for a top 5 team.

tyroneman · July 30, 2018, 06:03:20 PM

When Mourinho first came to Chelsea..a lot of people thought he was great, with the 'special one' comments and seemingly prepared to take on Ferguson and co at thier own PR / mind games

Everyone seemed to forget the absolute disgrace that was his Porto team in the Europa final v Celtic. A time wasting, diving shower who no more deserved to win that game.

No sympathy for him

Therealdonald · July 30, 2018, 06:16:45 PM

Quote from: tyroneman on July 30, 2018, 06:03:20 PM
When Mourinho first came to Chelsea..a lot of people thought he was great, with the 'special one' comments and seemingly prepared to take on Ferguson and co at thier own PR / mind games

Everyone seemed to forget the absolute disgrace that was his Porto team in the Europa final v Celtic. A time wasting, diving shower who no more deserved to win that game.

No sympathy for him

Don't understand why we think Martial is hard done by?? Too inconsistent and too much of a sulk.

Milltown Row2 · July 30, 2018, 06:41:15 PM

Quote from: tyroneman on July 30, 2018, 06:03:20 PM
When Mourinho first came to Chelsea..a lot of people thought he was great, with the 'special one' comments and seemingly prepared to take on Ferguson and co at thier own PR / mind games

Everyone seemed to forget the absolute disgrace that was his Porto team in the Europa final v Celtic. A time wasting, diving shower who no more deserved to win that game.

No sympathy for him

Same Porto team that won the CL ?