Boxing Thread

Started by bennydorano, November 04, 2007, 09:00:01 PM

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omaghjoe

Quote from: DuffleKing on November 20, 2016, 09:59:26 AM

He didn't win the 3rd, 4th or 5th and very few after that.

Contrary to previous opinion, I love watching ward work. His movement is so fluid and defence tactically excellent.

I had ward by a round overall.

Despite what compubox says....

Ward Fluid??? What are you on about??? Have you actually watched him box? He's a case of counter with a rush and grab and then wrestle.
How does he expect to score with those tactics? And more to the point how could anyway could any judge deem him to be scoring


gallsman

You're talking out of your hole.

Lomachenko-Walters this weekend. Should be good.

omaghjoe

Quote from: gallsman on November 22, 2016, 06:08:41 AM
You're talking out of your hole.

Lomachenko-Walters this weekend. Should be good.

Ah well then, I wish you could have explained it so simply earlier, I therefore must be wrong.

Tho that should be a good fight yes

gallsman

You asked about Compubox. Compubox doesn't score rounds, judges do. It's not amateur boxing. The decision came about as a result of the the fine margins of boxing. Nothing to do with a homer decision. I had kovalev by one with two drawn rounds. Anyone sees those two rounds for ward and you have ward by one. If you see them for kovalev, he wins by three.

BennyHarp

Quote from: omaghjoe on November 22, 2016, 05:36:26 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on November 20, 2016, 09:59:26 AM

He didn't win the 3rd, 4th or 5th and very few after that.

Contrary to previous opinion, I love watching ward work. His movement is so fluid and defence tactically excellent.

I had ward by a round overall.

Despite what compubox says....

Ward Fluid??? What are you on about??? Have you actually watched him box? He's a case of counter with a rush and grab and then wrestle.
How does he expect to score with those tactics? And more to the point how could anyway could any judge deem him to be scoring

Ah come on. I can see how someone might score it to Kovalev as I had a few rounds very close and I understand you may not like Wards style but your analysis of Ward there is utter nonsense. Boxing is more than just letting off big shots. Ward forced Kovalev to miss time and again whilst picking him off to the body. Did you expect him to stand toe to toe with Kovalev?? He worked out the most effective way to win the fight and carried it out.

Paulie Malinaggi is someone who I think normally calls thing pretty well and he actually had Ward up by 4.
That was never a square ball!!

DuffleKing

Quote from: gallsman on November 20, 2016, 01:23:12 PM
Have just watched without knowing result and had it 115-114 to kovalev. Scored the 4th and 5th a 10-10.

I gave ward the 4th and 5th but had the last round 10-10

DuffleKing

Quote from: omaghjoe on November 22, 2016, 06:16:56 AM
Quote from: gallsman on November 22, 2016, 06:08:41 AM
You're talking out of your hole.

Lomachenko-Walters this weekend. Should be good.

Ah well then, I wish you could have explained it so simply earlier, I therefore must be wrong.

Tho that should be a good fight yes

You haven't seen much boxing and definitely haven't boxed

nrico2006

There were a lot of 10/10 rounds in that fight to be honest.  Hopefully Kovalevs management use their head for the rematch and get three neutral judges this time.  At best for Ward, that fight was a draw.
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Medic

#4823
Roy Jones Junior: I love ward but kovalev won https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWdNZcvGXuU

Andre Ward vs Sergey Kovalev | Review by Antonio Tarver  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwbUDOHdMsI

Larry Merchant - Kovalev Won Fight Easy Ward Did Not Win EsNews Boxing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx78p6bS3uk

Jim Lampley: 'MY INSTINCT says Kovalev won it!!' | Z-BoxingNews https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gQgL0MXLF0

Vasil Lomachenko - Kovalev Beat Andre Ward https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4og2P5TJDv0

Ward Vs Kovalev opinion/review  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q282_cS2jsQ

Sergey Kovalev gets screwed by 3 bias American Judges!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KM47glDU2o

The latest robbery! Ward vs Kovalev https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLEawWzNWzk

GOLOVKIN'S TRAINER ABEL SANCHEZ REACTS TO ANDRE WARD'S WIN OVER KOVALEV; HAD IT 1 POINT FOR KOVALEV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnPN8SXgMTw

Kovalev vs. Ward Robbery JUSTIFIED By BOXINGSCENE??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhlmo96XC9Y

Kovalev vs Ward Full Fight!!!! POST FIGHT thoughts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UniZX_6LfM
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BennyHarp

#4824
Quote from: Medic on November 24, 2016, 11:16:32 AM
Roy Jones Junior: I love ward but kovalev won https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWdNZcvGXuU

Andre Ward vs Sergey Kovalev | Review by Antonio Tarver  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwbUDOHdMsI

Larry Merchant - Kovalev Won Fight Easy Ward Did Not Win EsNews Boxing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx78p6bS3uk

Jim Lampley: 'MY INSTINCT says Kovalev won it!!' | Z-BoxingNews https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gQgL0MXLF0

Vasil Lomachenko - Kovalev Beat Andre Ward https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4og2P5TJDv0

Ward Vs Kovalev opinion/review  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q282_cS2jsQ

Sergey Kovalev gets screwed by 3 bias American Judges!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KM47glDU2o

The latest robbery! Ward vs Kovalev https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLEawWzNWzk

GOLOVKIN'S TRAINER ABEL SANCHEZ REACTS TO ANDRE WARD'S WIN OVER KOVALEV; HAD IT 1 POINT FOR KOVALEV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnPN8SXgMTw

Kovalev vs. Ward Robbery JUSTIFIED By BOXINGSCENE??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhlmo96XC9Y

Kovalev vs Ward Full Fight!!!! POST FIGHT thoughts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UniZX_6LfM

Ward isn't very well liked by the US media and rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way with regards his contract dispute and legal action against his former promoter. But that aside, the comments range from ROBBERY!!!! to Ward lost by one round to Kovalev won "easy" to "my instinct says". Now, I understand none of the chosen clips suggest Ward won, and you chose the clips well to serve your point, but the reality is that the fight was very close - it was not a robbery and Kovalev did not win easily - that analysis is biased! It was one or two rounds either way and in my view it was Ward who did the most in the latter half of the fight. Paulie Malinaggi, Matthew Macklin, Kostyra Tszyu and quite a few others agree - but I cant be bothered looking for youtube clips.
That was never a square ball!!

gallsman

Haye vs Bellew announced for March 4th.

JoG2

Quote from: gallsman on November 25, 2016, 03:32:11 PM
Haye vs Bellew announced for March 4th.

@ heavyweight apparently. Be a decent enough scrap I'd say. Haye probably the classier (boxing wise) than Bellew, but if Bellew hits him flush, could be game over

bridgegael

Haye wins this all day long. Would be surprised if it goes past three rounds. Bellew will come to the same fate as maccerinelli.
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DuffleKing

Quote from: JoG2 on November 25, 2016, 03:36:44 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 25, 2016, 03:32:11 PM
Haye vs Bellew announced for March 4th.

@ heavyweight apparently. Be a decent enough scrap I'd say. Haye probably the classier (boxing wise) than Bellew, but if Bellew hits him flush, could be game over

Easy fight for Haye. I'm not sure why you think Bellew has the capacity to knock him out - Haye has been in with much bigger and more powerful men

Boycey

PPV ;D.  any man that pays to watch that should be beat with balls of his own dung...