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[That goal scored by bobby mccaul today is one derry wouldn't score in a million years]

Whatever happens we probably need to stick with this management and get stability which I'm fairly sure is what will happen. They have made mistakes but we have a number of players who are off form and aren't playing with confidence. The bottom line is we have a good team for the old rules and we need to rethink our game plan and selection for the new rules. That goal scored by bobby mccaul today is one derry wouldn't score in a million years even though Lachlan murray is well capable of a goal like that. I can't believe sean kearney didn't get a run out yesterday, he's looked like he'll score every time he's got a chance this year.

Said exactly the same when it was scored.

[I thought the referee was poor as well.]

I thought that was a comfortable win for Armagh who didn't get or need to get out of second gear. Will need to improve for the next day but have plenty of room and time to. Always hard to get up again after an Ulster final.

I thought the referee was poor as well.

Awful I thought. Let Derry defenders away with a lot of dirt. McCormack, McMullen, McConville super. Conaty was very good although well marshalled.

Thought he was poor. There is a big difference between letting the game flow and ignoring blatant fouls. Not giving decisions one way then, immediately blowing a foul for similar, going other way.

Does anyone really believe the woe is us nonsense from the Armagh folk on this thread?

I think everyone is expecting a comfortable win for Armagh in front of a partisan capacity crowd at their home ground against a mentally suspect Derry group lacking anything like the kind of squad depth Armagh has.

I'm already planning my trip to Killarney for the next round.

Armagh by close to double figures, pulling up.

I'm with you on that one. Although I am hoping for a home game v Kildare or Cavan in the next round.

Half Time in the second semi final. Awful stuff so far. Mostly retaining possession, and some of the basic skills have been shocking. Yet, when there is a quick attack, the score is on, but that has been few and far between.
Donegal 0-04 Derry 0-02

I'll be consistent and predict a double digit victory for Armagh. I mean Monaghan beat Derry, and then Armagh beat Monaghan by 9pts.

Realistically the only thing Derry have in their favour is the extended planning time. Though Armagh still have two weeks, plus playing in front of a partisan home crowd, buoyed by the fact they are Ulster Champions.

The match ups with Conaty and McMullan will be vital. And the bench too, Derry don't have an option like Oisin O'Neill or Ross McQuillan to enter the fray after 50mins.

Armagh are +30 for the last 3 meetings in league and Championship against Derry. Outside of the 2023 Ulster Final, Derry haven't beat Armagh in the C'ship since 2011. That probably won't change this year.

So Armagh won by 9pts, was close enough with my double figure estimation 

Armagh to win their next two fixtures by a combined total of +20pts.

Too many getting carried away by Monaghan's comeback rather than Derry's total failure keep the foot on the throat and win the game.

Armagh are a different animal and will win at a canter.

Armagh 1-28
Monaghan 0-19

Already too many wides for Derry.

No changes to the line up - though they have added 27-29 as part of the squad.

Donegal management clearly didn't watch any of the Derry/Tyrone game last week because they haven't set up any differently how Derry set up.

The Tyrone defence is extremely well organised. And Donegal haven't moved them about at all. You could hear the groans when Donegal looked like they had a good attack going and the Number 8 turned back again.

Donegal cruising against a limited Tyrone team.

And Donegal have been very wasteful in front of goals. Should be much further ahead. Only a 6pt game - Tyrone still in it.

Ethan Jordan for Mattie Donnelly
Ciaran Daly for Frank Burns - gone from the 26
Ciaran Bogue into the panel

Callum O'Neill in for Paddy Burns

It will be a nothing less than a double digit victory for Armagh.

Realistically they should be going out to try and better the 18pt hammering Tyrone give them in 2017.

Donegal 1-12 Derry 1-11
Donegal top the group and straight into the semifinals. Derry into the quarterfinals

U20
Derry and Donegal have named strong sides for this evenings game. Roarty down to start for Donegal, Max Campbell on the bench. Derry unchanged from Fermanagh game which means, no Sargent for Derry.