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I meant what Cavan did to a much fancied Armagh team last year.

Its nice to see ye being nice.

Does anyone fear a Monaghan ambush? I do and I'm never at ease when I hear we expect to do well.

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Might tell you what it is worth too!

If a man was to stalk Seanie I'd say its a fair bet you wouldnt go to Kildare.

Itchy you're so right, am surprised Scullion wasn't lynched as Tyronies would be very protective over St Mickey!

No one talks to my Mickey like that! Scullion better watch out.

Ziggy I think he was fine, but wasn't really watching him too closely, and unless a new one does something very good or very bad, I orob wouldn't remark too much.

Mickey was close to the ref when he gave a dubious free against Tyrone and said something to the ref about it, but Scullion, obv very frustrated at the time, shouted "fcuk up will ye" no less than 4 times amd even turned back to shout it again. Ach it was nothing really, he just looked like a dick as the crowd didn't hear a word from Mickey but then heard Scullion roar back.

How dare he speak to Mickey Harte like that the bastard.

Givney said it himself on Twitter, I hope its a joke as that would be a disaster.

So did anyone make it up to the game yesterday evening? I'd be interested to hear their views on the performance. It was hard enough to see what was happening on the stream as the camera was often very close up to the action. Anyway, for what its worth I thought our performance wasn't as good as against Down. We got some soft goals and that was the difference in the end. The Armagh lads seemed to be a lot stronger than us and we struggled to break tackles when hand passing the ball out which really slowed us up. A lot of the problem is that lads are not taking passes on the run or at speed, its all flat passing to almost static players. Only mackey was really able to come out and leave Armagh players in his wake. I also thought our handling wasn't great and we made a lot of unforced errors. Niall McD seems to be struggling to make the ball stick and then to use it quickly and so again Dunne was the only man winning ball inside (although he was quieter than last time, despite his two goals). James Reilly needs to lose a "few" pounds. So just like a defeat last week doesn't mean we are crap a win this week doesn't mean we are great.

The positives are that we got three goal chances and buried them all, McKiernans points were outstanding especially the one where he took a pass with his back to goal turned and fired over without look at the posts. His point scoring reminded me of big mccabe last night. Dunne has to be full of confidence hitting 17 points in 2 games. I thought defensively we frustrated armagh who were looking to put in long balls but could not easily find a way through. Our work rate again was very good and we did look fairly fit for this time of the year. Big positive is the confidence gained, winning in Armagh is not an easy thing and winning is a habit. If Armagh beat Down by less than 4 points then I think we win the group and it would be good to get a run out against another team.

I think the Antrim game will be a step up and really think we could do badly with the strength of Dunne, Givney and Keating but we should be going all out for a good start and a win in Belfast.

Cavan win 3-09 to 1-11.

Didn't think we played that well and our goals were more bad defending than great forward play but still going to Armagh with such a young inexperienced team and winning should be a boost to our lads heading to the national league.

Enjoyable game Cavan corner forward ( the flame haired guy) was pick of the pkayers on show,
Armagh kickouts very poor as was the defending but all in all some decent performances ,
Both forkers played well, Harold was decent enough/ won't be two despondent .

Yeah Martin Dunne, seems to be in good form. Someone mentioned Stefan Forker made his first appearance since 2010 , thats obviously in the McKenna Cup as he was playing Championship last year and the year before aswell. Very good player.

How many lads were Cross missing besides the Cross players?

Did he not mean Mackey, wearing 13 but not playing there? I thought he was man of match for us with Gearoid for the 4 "McCabe-like" points

Doing Sterling work over on Hoganstand Fred, you must have a bit more free time lately.

Some sensible debate required over there, its depressing reading it some times. However - its only 3/4 wums doing the damage. However, its a better spot on here.

[On Panel over 12 years]

2 years experience of losing. Since when is 2 years experienced anyway?

I said at least two years.  Our team was alot more experienced than Armagh.

James Reilly.  On Panel over 12 years
Oisin Minagh, Killian Brady, Damian Barkey.  Pretty inexperienced here
Padraic Reilly, Alan Clarke, John McCutcheon.  A lot of experience on this line.
Tomas Corr, Gearoid McKiernan.  Corr has been on and off panel over last 7 years, Mckeirnan U-21 winning captin and on senior panel 3/4 years.
Damien O'Reilly, Declan McKiernan, (Mark McKeever. On panel donkeys years) 
Cian Mackey, Martin Dunne, Niall McDermott  Mackey on panel since 2005, Dunne is most inexperienced in this line.  McDermott has been about senior panel a few years.

Now we are nit picking but I say if you are talking truely experienced players you only have Reilly (a keeper), Podge, mackey, McKeever and maybe McCutcheon. How many yrs has Clarke played - not too many I reckon. Tomas Corr was a fringe player for 7 years. The rest are new or 1-2 yrs on the panel, many of which were fringe players too. I don't see a lot of experience in there.

2 years experience of losing. Since when is 2 years experienced anyway?

Cavan win 3-09 to 1-11.

Didn't think we played that well and our goals were more bad defending than great forward play but still going to Armagh with such a young inexperienced team and winning should be a boost to our lads heading to the national league.

im over 3mb speed so should be ok for streaming, no problems last weekend.

Armagh v Cavan live stream:

http://www.armaghgaa.net/armaghtv/

Stream is shite

Ahh jaysus it's not bad at all. Fair play to them for being innovative and doing something like this

Maybe its just me but the video freezes and then goes into fast forward to catch up all the time + camera is not following the ball. Simple enough things that could be fixed. We are not playing well but still ahead by a goal. Giving away possession too easily and too slow to work the ball into scoring positions. I fancy Armagh will win it in the end unless we buck up.