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"We was"....
Tut tut.

Tell you what Ross...
Suppose me and the rest of the Mayo heads club together and buy GPS systems for you and syf and shrewdness.
Then maybe you could find the way back to yeer own manager thread./
If ye don't pull out soon, ye will  miss the action. McStay won't last pissing time because when he strts up with his "shot selection" and "carrying the ball oonto the tackle" and all the other crap tems he introduced to the world, your woolly sheep will turn into rams and chase him out of the county.
I mean ye did that to Maughan who outranked McStay.
If the whole effion' lot of ye don't move soon, he'll collide with  you as you go one way and he'll be going the other with some of yer neanthardal fans in hot pursuit.

Where exactly are we chasing him to Lar? He's lived half of his life here and his daughters are die-hard Rossies.

If it's Rochford who gets your job it sounds like he's going to be looking for the same sort of set-up your CB balked at when McStay was the front-runner last year. Where's all this financial lubrication coming from? For any other county the huge debt on McHale and the heavy spending of the last five years would be a millstone around their necks.

Interesting times west of Ballagh..

The CB weren't going to appoint him no matter what as they dad their own man/men earmarked. To say that the financials to bring in Rochford are the same is plain wrong though.

Apparently, there was a very large attendance at that book launch the other night. It was the biggest gathering of Mayo people (and Ballagh sympathisers) seen in Co Roscommon since last July's Connacht Final!!

Definitely one for the bonfire.

I assume you are referring to us there?
Not quite sure where you get that idea from.
He absolutely slated Galway after the drawn Connacht final in 98.
And I recall other articles written about us late 90s/early noughties where he was less than complimentary.
Anyway I wouldn't be in the least worried what he says about you.
Total dinosaur

No a closet Ross man despite some faint criticism this year.
Never would be too bothered about journos having a go but he seems to have some sort of axe to grind with us for a long time.

["We know that largely the same Mayo panel have taken part in seven All-Ireland semi-finals in the past five years and managed to win just two. They have played in two All-Ireland finals and lost both, which means that out of nine high-grade national competition games Mayo have won TWO and failed to win SEVEN.]

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/eugene-mcgee-mayo-mutiny-prompts-the-question-of-whos-dictating-the-search-for-new-boss-31582099.html

"We know that largely the same Mayo panel have taken part in seven All-Ireland semi-finals in the past five years and managed to win just two. They have played in two All-Ireland finals and lost both, which means that out of nine high-grade national competition games Mayo have won TWO and failed to win SEVEN.

Never in the history of the GAA has a county played in as many semi-finals and finals over such a condensed period without winning even one All-Ireland. It is important to stress this fact, and the recent history of Mayo, in order to put in context what has led up to these latest developments."

On

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/eugene-mcgee-talks-to-paul-kimmage-i-find-it-hard-to-think-of-myself-as-anything-other-than-ordinary-31454305.htmle of McGee's insights I really like is the following :

EMcG: A lot of the matches are shite, but the worst of all is having to write the column in wintertime. I sit down every Saturday night and say, 'What am I going to write here?'. I'm 30 years writing columns now, for God's sake! And some of the stuff I write on Monday is pure shite."

I know that McGee is gospel with a lot of football people. But he's a gobshite of the highest order imo. Same Mayo panel my hole. It doesn t matter a damn. He was shafting us in 00s, 90s, and 80s as well. He was even 'nasty' about Mayo players that played for him and won him Sigersons back in the 70's. f**k him.

McGee has form here for sure, never had much good to say about us, he always had more time for our Connacht neighbours for some reason. What does he care he has a handy article all ready to go next year if Mayo exit, maybe he'll resurrect his god awful Larry McGann for the purpose, bile-ridden b****x.

Which neighbours because he doesn't like us much either.

Naw he loves ye guys he'll be all decked out in primrose and blue next year to see off the red and green infidels.

["We know that largely the same Mayo panel have taken part in seven All-Ireland semi-finals in the past five years and managed to win just two. They have played in two All-Ireland finals and lost both, which means that out of nine high-grade national competition games Mayo have won TWO and failed to win SEVEN.]

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/eugene-mcgee-mayo-mutiny-prompts-the-question-of-whos-dictating-the-search-for-new-boss-31582099.html

"We know that largely the same Mayo panel have taken part in seven All-Ireland semi-finals in the past five years and managed to win just two. They have played in two All-Ireland finals and lost both, which means that out of nine high-grade national competition games Mayo have won TWO and failed to win SEVEN.

Never in the history of the GAA has a county played in as many semi-finals and finals over such a condensed period without winning even one All-Ireland. It is important to stress this fact, and the recent history of Mayo, in order to put in context what has led up to these latest developments."

On

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/eugene-mcgee-talks-to-paul-kimmage-i-find-it-hard-to-think-of-myself-as-anything-other-than-ordinary-31454305.htmle of McGee's insights I really like is the following :

EMcG: A lot of the matches are shite, but the worst of all is having to write the column in wintertime. I sit down every Saturday night and say, 'What am I going to write here?'. I'm 30 years writing columns now, for God's sake! And some of the stuff I write on Monday is pure shite."

I know that McGee is gospel with a lot of football people. But he's a gobshite of the highest order imo. Same Mayo panel my hole. It doesn t matter a damn. He was shafting us in 00s, 90s, and 80s as well. He was even 'nasty' about Mayo players that played for him and won him Sigersons back in the 70's. f**k him.

McGee has form here for sure, never had much good to say about us, he always had more time for our Connacht neighbours for some reason. What does he care he has a handy article all ready to go next year if Mayo exit, maybe he'll resurrect his god awful Larry McGann for the purpose, bile-ridden b****x.

If Horan steps back into this gig it's going to reek even more than it does already.

I'm assuming that the Mayo players had someone in mind as a manager when they made this move. Surely they wouldn't have taken this step without having a good idea of who would come in instead? Could they have already made contact with Horan and got some reassurances that if the way was clear, he would come back?

When a manager loses the dressing room, e.g. in English soccer, is it always incumbent on the players to have a new manager 'in mind'?

No but then again in soccer, players don't generally take a vote and present it to the owners of the club demanding that the management be removed. At least if it has happened I've never heard of it.

In this case they didn't present it to the owners, the CB might think they own Mayo football but they don't.

I'm getting worried now. Players only in the meeting for 10 mins. Not looking good. 

Jesus H Christ on a unicycle. TEN minutes!  What processes and mechanisms could they have possibly gone through in those 10 minutes?

Smart move by players to turn up in such numbers. I suspect that Mike was going to play hard-ball with Keith and Cillian and try and to bully/appease them into accepting a few cosmetic tweaks so that Pateen and Nole could continue. This was a show of strength to show that there was going to be no messing about. There's been too much bullshit already.
Looks like this has put the matter to bed. It s bottle of brandy and pistol time.

Don't agree brandy's too good for them, poteen maybe.

Some of the calls were calamitous alright and we keep doing it which always leaves us wondering what if.
These 2 boys are not going to become master tacticians overnight so the best we can hope for is that we do as much prep as possible so that when the hard questions are asked the answer might be readymade instead of having to figure it out.

So Moysider seriously you think our defence doesn't need work then?
For one thing do you not think we lack physicality back there?
I mean take Dublin's second goal, Brogan should have been on his hole over the end-line.
I think there's a lot of stuff we can work on over the league and we probably need to take a few risks as well.
I'm not sure about going all out to win it, maybe a few guys need a rest, give others a run.
Do we persist with AOS at FF and if so do we need COC out at CHF to give him the type of ball needs?
Who hangs off him then, Regan maybe?
Is McLoughlin best used as a sweeper because he's not cutting it as an out and out forward, neither is Doherty. No shortage of stuff to be trying.

[both got up and made nothing]

Why should Connolly get off?

Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.

And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.

Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week

I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense

Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run

It's all coming out now, crying to the media.

Ye're the ones crying baby

If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.

Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA

I don't recognise that sport but not even in the same radius as Keegan's/Connolly, both got up and made nothing of it until o Connor influenced the linesman. He won't get off because of that alone but video evidence plus the CCCC have no choice ala Keane who struck twice to the face , Connolly/ Keegan's is a much lesser offence, handbags.

More nonsense. Connolly was intent on continuing his assault when O Connor arrived. O Connor behaved with the utmost restraint in the circumstances - especially by calling the linesman attention. If he hadn t Keegan would have been opened and Connolly facing a lengthy ban indeed.

You should be writing short stories for the ufc website .......... Utter drivel, What of the upstanding OConnors forearm smash to OCarrolls head ....? Nothing, ah sure he was pulling out of him and deserved it

Christ ye're like a pinball machine jumping from incident to incident and trying to link them up.

'forearm smash to O Carrolls head' is the ultimate drivel, suggesting intent and wrecking ball force. Cop on and stop muddying the waters. O Carroll got caught with an arm outstretched in a gesture of frustration after being continuously held and checked. The tissue around the eye socket splits easily and its not nice to see anybody having injuries. Surprised he got stitches. Usually cuts like that are glued or stapled these days.
Cooper wrestled McLoughlin to ground in first minuted and didn t get digged like Keegan did.
If my neighbour Ger Cafferkey was acting the pup like O Carroll and Cooper and got cut in a gesture like that from Brogan or whoever I wouldn t be making a show of myself crying and trying to turn the tables and getting a player suspended that went out to play the game, like your friend The Aristocrat is.

Just to say, the reason O Carroll didn't come back on is his eye closed up and with his history of concussion also v Mayo it was the right call. A wild swing back but look what goes around comes around, maybe not this year but it will.

Secondly, I understand Connolly is not liked to say the least, yeah we know, t**ker, dub sc**bag, etc, but they targeted him and Keegan grappled him to the ground and Connolly tried his utmost to break free from him. O Connor acting like a Chelsea soccer player  to the linesman. Poor form, thought better of Mayo, master of the dark arts who need 2 ( laughs) managers to try and get them over the line.

Have a good night all , good discussion.

More nonsense. I doubt you give us a second thought and I don t mind if you do or don t. Like Kerry ye don t care what ye need to do to win and like Kerry ye have a massive since of entitlement and a huge sense of resentment when ye don t always get ye're way - which ye usually do of course. In effect ye are spoiled and some of ye're players are spoiled as well. Others of course are top lads. Jack McCafferty and the Brogans are classy in every way.bloke too. What I was dismayed by Flynn's dismissive gesture to the tv camera at the end. Thought he was a quality  was that about? Yer ould spin these last couple of day's Aristocrat has done nothing for your credibility.

Ah come on Moysider, in a thread that has gotten a bit out of hand , that comment about Flynn takes the biscuit.

His comment is pretty innocuous given some of the others. Donal Vaughan 'shoe shine boy' comes to mind.

Will try and steer this back to the football if that's possible.
If Mayo have a half like that the next day it'll certainly be curtains, Dublin should've been out of sight. H&C were trying to be too clever by half drafting in Drake, it didn't work, we need one of the Morans starting the next day and get more support for O'Shea. Kilkenny and Andrews were lethal and Brogan always looks like he could rattle the net if he gets the right ball. The Dublin forwards are just more accurate and whether we press up or not they'll still get enough ball to do damage. They'll hardly cough up as many frees either so it's obvious we need more from play, forwards need to step up and knock a few over particularly Doherty and McLoughlin.

I Understand that gents but just look at the Fermanagh game, not one yellow or black card issued, not sure about previous games but that backs up my point, first 5 mins Mayo throwing their weight around, got it back twice as hard, Dubs bad guys, Mayo angels. I understand we would all love to see Mayo win it but not at the expense of their cynical tactics they use.

If ever there was projection at work this is it, even Brolly who had his head up Gavin's hole with his credit to the GAA comments had to admit ye were cynical. Then you talk about media agenda, Brogan got his run the papers earlier in the year about how Dublin never feign injury, never sledge just get on with it, are you seriously trying to posit that Mayo brought the devil out of them with a few shoulders?

The question is whether Barry Moran will have be quick enough to play that role against a Dublin side that's far pacier than Donegal were. We need a sweeper for sure, Brogan has run riot that last few times we've met.

the only team that can beat us is ourselves.

It's for insights like this that I read this board.

too
Took me a few hours to come up with that line.

You re wrong there boss. The worrying thing from our point of view is that a ref will believe that as well and go with that script. That and the home venue is massive. It means that we - or any other team - have to be considerably better to win v Dublin in CP.

In a composite team I would actually have more Mayo players than Dublin player (8/7) without being biased at all. There was a doubt about our management before Donegal but they got that game spot on. So we ll see.

I still think that location/ referring will decide this one. Dublin get a huge boost and fearlessness in CP where they can punch above themselves and when it goes for them you re fucked.

If this was in McHale Park I would be expecting to win it all day long.

If Mayo don't win in Croker it will be for one reason only - they are not good enough.

Facetious. To win in CP Mayo have to be much better than the home team. That's the way it is unfortunately for us.
Maybe you are right. We re probably not good enough to be that much better on the day.
But I can understand why Dublin supporters can afford to be glib. Circumstances are stacked in Dublin's favour.

Is this to become our latest excuse now Croke Park, Jesus wept. Have you ever thought that it can also work against the Dubs when things go against them on the pitch. Lets just play the game and stop the moaning.