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Lads maybe a bit off topic but can someone tell me will Dublin get to play their home and neutral super 8 games at croke park??? Ive been getting a lot of conflicting answers on this the past few days. Thanks

Both in Croke Park.

And how is that fair??? Ive no problem with some of the advantages Dublin have but thats blatant favouritism toward one team above another

Lads maybe a bit off topic but can someone tell me will Dublin get to play their home and neutral super 8 games at croke park??? Ive been getting a lot of conflicting answers on this the past few days. Thanks

I may get a wrap on the knuckles for saying this, but Coen to me hasn't been good enough. He appears slow and I can't really remember him improving the team when he came on.
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He was very good when he came on in the 2016 replay.Id be hopeful thats the level he can get too and wait round.Anyways only one way to find out Farr.....roll on the league

[why would you put andy and boyle on the bench]

why would you put andy and boyle on the bench seamus maybe but only of some one better comes along.
I was very disappointed to see gibbons being let go last year as I thought he was really making a step up an a likely starter . wonder were there complicating factors.
as for andy age seem to the thing peole are using against him , he may or may not have 70 in him he's never been in better shapee in his career and he has improved as a footballer every year ive seen him play . While I don't rate boyle highly as a footballer and a player and a warrior he is unmatched . what he as done with his talents s remarkable
in regard to new players  I was very impressed with some of the Westport player last year and think the deserve a serious shot the like of
Colm Moran
Shane scott
Oisin McLoughlin
and pat lambert

Because id prefer to have them on the pitch for the last 20 minutes as opposed to the first 20.I just dont think Andy has a full 70/75 minutes in him at the pace needed against the Dublins Kerrys.Maybe Boyle could start hes the greatest warrior ive ever seen in a Mayo jersey but id rather have him nailing anything that moves when the game is there to be won or lost.In an ideal world both of them would be starting but to beat Dublin we have to develop a bench and if Coen and say Loftus can step up and claim a spot who better to bring in for the last 20/25 mins off a tight game than Andy and Boyler.

The game can be lost more easily in the first 50 than the last 20..

I understand that.Im not saying leave Andy and Boyle on the bench for the sake of it.Use to league to develop options and if Coen or Loftus or someone else are good enough start them

[why would you put andy and boyle on the bench]

why would you put andy and boyle on the bench seamus maybe but only of some one better comes along.
I was very disappointed to see gibbons being let go last year as I thought he was really making a step up an a likely starter . wonder were there complicating factors.
as for andy age seem to the thing peole are using against him , he may or may not have 70 in him he's never been in better shapee in his career and he has improved as a footballer every year ive seen him play . While I don't rate boyle highly as a footballer and a player and a warrior he is unmatched . what he as done with his talents s remarkable
in regard to new players  I was very impressed with some of the Westport player last year and think the deserve a serious shot the like of
Colm Moran
Shane scott
Oisin McLoughlin
and pat lambert

Because id prefer to have them on the pitch for the last 20 minutes as opposed to the first 20.I just dont think Andy has a full 70/75 minutes in him at the pace needed against the Dublins Kerrys.Maybe Boyle could start hes the greatest warrior ive ever seen in a Mayo jersey but id rather have him nailing anything that moves when the game is there to be won or lost.In an ideal world both of them would be starting but to beat Dublin we have to develop a bench and if Coen and say Loftus can step up and claim a spot who better to bring in for the last 20/25 mins off a tight game than Andy and Boyler.

[This will mean an earlier start to the football league]

Any idea when these fixture dates are normally released?

Draft plan not released yet.
Sunday April 1st for the Allianz Football League final, and Sunday April 15th for the Allianz Hurling League final. This will mean an earlier start to the football league, the intention being to free up April completely for club fixtures, with the exception of the hurling league final.

Educated guess would so the only difference from the 2017 NFL is there will be no 2 week gap between round 2 and 3.

Round 1 Feb 3rd/4th
Round 2 Feb 10th/11th
Round 3 Feb 17th/18th
Round 4 Feb 24th/25th
Round 5 March 3rd/4th
Round 6 March 10th/11th
round 7 March 24th/25th

4 football Finals March 31st/April 1st

March 17th weekend to be left free for the Club All Ireland finals

Maybe a bit off topic but does anyone know what date the all ireland football final is next year???

[Caolan Crowe and Shane Nally have been in the panel now for two years.]

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Caolan Crowe and Shane Nally have been in the panel now for two years. Nally made a few league appearances and kicked two enormous points v Ros when the game was done. Crowe looked to be the understudy for Full back but when it cut to the chase he wasn't involved. Coen and Drake were the "go to" subs on most occasions. Coen had a poor year and confidence looked shot but will probably come good. Drake has looked comfortable at the back but a drake out of water up front. If management don't fancy or trust the Garry boys they are as well to let them go. Otherwise they need to play constantly through the league to be properly assessed.
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I wouldnt judge them by time on the panel i believe Brendan Harrison was 2 years round the panel before he broke through and look how good he is now.I have to disagree with you about Drake.Maybe its just me but i dont see what he offers at all.Coen needs to be played at 6 for the league and let him develop in that role.He has potential but also a habit of giving the ball away needlessly at crucial stages.He gave the ball away very cheaply against Cork which led to their equaliser in normal time and he gave the ball away recklessly against Dublin which ended up with their free to win it.This needs to be worked on.The ideal situation for us is we use the league to find Coen possibly a midfielder and a forward to operate at the level required so we can have a bench including Boyle Andy and Seamus o se for the big games.

So far the only players named (not on existing Mayo Panel) are
Peter Naughton            Knockmore
Robert Molloy               Carramore/Hollymount
Conor Keane                Carramore/Hollymount
Kevin Feerick               Carramore/Hollymount
James McCormack        Claremorris
Conor Finnerty             Ballintubber
Jason  Gibbons             Ballintubber
James Durcan              Castlebar
Trevor Nally                 Garrymore
Ciaran Treacy               Ballina
No. 15 ?                       Ardnaree

Id say James Carr Fergal Boland and Shane Nally are the most likely to step up for want of a better word.Carr has the potential but may need to play at a higher level club wise.Another winter of strength and conditioning will do Boland the world of good and Nally has impressed with any chance he has got so far.Loftus needs gametime but i think he has already proved his worth.Anyone joining the panel for the first time will take 2 years minimum to get to the level of strength and conditioning required.Regan might be worth another shot but i think that ship might have sailed.

Its all about the inches.Rochford is making sure we dont lose this one fair play to him

He's your best forward so keep him on the bench for 50 minutes doesn't make sense...

Id rather have him for the last 20 minutes when the game might have opened up a bit

[Moran is still Mayo's best forward.]

Reality is setting in. Mayo cannot afford to shitehawk around with the ball for 65 minutes against any other team this year. Clare have nothing to lose imo and will throw everything at Mayo. What Mayo will turn up is another thing. Let's hope it's the one in extra time, although if Derry had the fitness levels Mayo had the last day in et it could be different.

I couldn't believe my ears last night when I was in conversation with a man who said that AOS had a bad game the last day. Then I told him that he kept Mayo in the game when the rest were falling badly. 'I suppose' was his response...

Agree about O Se Farr but how do we best use him??? I think Andys days as a starter should be over he was badly beaten to a few balls against Derry when he had a few yards on the defender.Id keep Andy and Loftus in reserve and throw them in for the last 25 minutes.Could we use O Se at ff with Cillian and Doherty playing off himor is he needed further out the field???

Moran is still Mayo's best forward. For all his failings Rochford at least realises that. If anything he should b e leaving him on longer. Probably cost them the Galway match taking him off and letting the likes of Regan on to shoot wild balls in the direction of the posts and Kirby who did absolutely nothing at all.

He is but when hes on the pitch our forward play is kick it into Andy who will win it and dish it off to runners.Im Andys biggest fan but i think we would be better to have O Se at ff for the first 50 minutes and bring a fresh Andy on for the last 20.Our critics can talk about marquee forwards till the cows come home but i believe Mayos single biggest weakness from the Horan era right up to today is the lack of respect for possesion.The amount of soft ball we give away is unreal especially for a team that works so hard to win it back

Reality is setting in. Mayo cannot afford to shitehawk around with the ball for 65 minutes against any other team this year. Clare have nothing to lose imo and will throw everything at Mayo. What Mayo will turn up is another thing. Let's hope it's the one in extra time, although if Derry had the fitness levels Mayo had the last day in et it could be different.

I couldn't believe my ears last night when I was in conversation with a man who said that AOS had a bad game the last day. Then I told him that he kept Mayo in the game when the rest were falling badly. 'I suppose' was his response...

Agree about O Se Farr but how do we best use him??? I think Andys days as a starter should be over he was badly beaten to a few balls against Derry when he had a few yards on the defender.Id keep Andy and Loftus in reserve and throw them in for the last 25 minutes.Could we use O Se at ff with Cillian and Doherty playing off himor is he needed further out the field???

Rochford is trying to be too smart and over complicating things.Keegan has to go back to 5 and Boyle has to come back in.We spent a full summer trying to turn Mc Loughlin into a sweeper and when he gets good at it we abandon it completley.Andy has to finish the games not start them.Loftus has to be given a go his pace alone is badly needed.Aido at ff if nothing else other teams are forced to double team him which would leave us with a free man.This shite of having Cillian around our half back line needs to stop aswell hes our best forward ffs.
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so just the 6 changes require to make up for a  point  loss.
Mayo need very few changes they just need to do what they do but do it better though training and good coaching .
there are reasons that mayo have been at the top table for the last several years despite perhaps not having the  best individuals and not making huge over reaction to a loss is one of them
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The amount of changes is irrelevant.Mayo were at the top table last year because of unbelievable good luck in the qualifier draw and Tyrones lack of a cutting edge to put us away in the quarter final.The amount of chances Tyrone missed was criminal.I can see the logic in moving Mc Loughlin even if i dont agree with it.Loftus is a gamble but its one Kerry or Dublin would have no fears of making.Dropping Boyle playing Keegan out of position and wasting cillian round the middle of the field is madness and no amount of training or good coaching is going to rectify that

[Our goose is cooked unless SR has the balls to completely change things around (if he is let) in the next game. Dropping SOS (use him as an impact rather than starting) and starting Coen in midfield is a start. Keeping Moran in reserve and starting either Loftus or COS (if fit). Dropping Donie (Donie might be needed for Higgins), starting Kirby. Dropping Dillion (is the medium term plan to use Dillion this year?) from the panel and bringing in Akram or Cuniffe or some other speedy U21 from last years team. Starting Lee in his position and bringing in Boyle. Putting midfielders into midfield for the throw-ins. If some (not all) of these changes aren't made then the first Div1 team we face will knock us out. My faith is gone so I don't believe these changes will be made. In fact the cynic in me predicts Hennelly will be back the next day and that will be the only unenforced change.We can start planning for the electric picnic this year. [/quote]]

Our goose is cooked unless SR has the balls to completely change things around (if he is let) in the next game.

Dropping SOS (use him as an impact rather than starting) and starting Coen in midfield is a start. Keeping Moran in reserve and starting either Loftus or COS (if fit). Dropping Donie (Donie might be needed for Higgins), starting Kirby.  Dropping Dillion (is the medium term plan to use Dillion this year?) from the panel and bringing in Akram or Cuniffe or some other speedy U21 from last years team. Starting Lee in his position and bringing in Boyle. Putting midfielders into midfield for the throw-ins.

If some (not all) of these changes aren't made then the first Div1 team we face will knock us out. My faith is gone so I don't believe these changes will be made. In fact the cynic in me predicts Hennelly will be back the next day and that will be the only unenforced change.

We can start planning for the electric picnic this year.
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Rochford is trying to be too smart and over complicating things.Keegan has to go back to 5 and Boyle has to come back in.We spent a full summer trying to turn Mc Loughlin into a sweeper and when he gets good at it we abandon it completley.Andy has to finish the games not start them.Loftus has to be given a go his pace alone is badly needed.Aido at ff if nothing else other teams are forced to double team him which would leave us with a free man.This shite of having Cillian around our half back line needs to stop aswell hes our best forward ffs.

[Rochford has been null and void]

Congrats to galway , deserving winners.  We were poor mostly in the second half, we have absolutely no forward plan . Rochford has been null and void . pointless appointment. Added nothing to the set up.

I have been one of Rochfords biggest fans even after the goalkeeper fiasco last year but its getting harder and harder to see what hes doing.Forward play is non existant.It looks like theres no plan at all up there.Its hard to see us getting out of the qualifiers if we play like we played again today.Well done to Galway Comer and Walsh are 2 fantastic players