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[I'd be happier if liberal prods could see the benefits first before asking a poll]

The partitionists can keep angling against it but it will happen in this decade despite all their efforts to prevent it.

What will happen in this decade? A poll, a referendum, a plan for a poll or a plan for a referendum?

I think there is enough groundswell of support both sides of the border for a poll to be called and the demographics are only trending more in support of it.

I'm struggling with that part, I'd thinking both sides would be up here rather than down there.

I'd be happier if liberal prods could see the benefits first before asking a poll

All 10 of them?

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I sincerely hope there's not a wait & see policy, get left behind again,
Offaly have gotten their house in order & are doing a lot more than we are, we were looking for more from our GDA's I think this is a brilliant way to maximise,
Approx 6k per year is money well spent rather than a Journy man senior manager in a lot of clubs.
I agree I think it's def a three club per gda deal for most of our clubs, splitting the hours and money, except maybe for Portlaoise who could probably use one full time .

There's a GPO In tullamore,edenderry and one shared between Drumcullen/Rath and Seir Kieran with more in the pipeline

Hopefully the willpower is here in laois for the likes of Portlaoise and Port to put in one of their own and small progressive rural clubs similar to Rath to fund a third of a GPO also.

My understanding is also that the CB will have call on these GPO also to help with development squads summer camps,Clubs won't have access to them full time.

We also need to get our GDA numbers back up as well,I think,we were given a budget by Croke Park for 5 and a games manager 

If we don't get those numbers up quickly,there's a chance given the current climate that budget not being spent might be taken off us and spent elsewhere

I'm gone away from that side of things and age groups in my club but how many GDAs do we have now?

My understanding is, and I'm open to correction here is that with Peter Hallys departure last year,we are down to 3 GDA's plus Mike Henchy the Games Manager,which leaves 2 vacant posts which are there to be filled.

I sincerely hope there's not a wait & see policy, get left behind again,
Offaly have gotten their house in order & are doing a lot more than we are, we were looking for more from our GDA's I think this is a brilliant way to maximise,
Approx 6k per year is money well spent rather than a Journy man senior manager in a lot of clubs.
I agree I think it's def a three club per gda deal for most of our clubs, splitting the hours and money, except maybe for Portlaoise who could probably use one full time .

There's a GPO In tullamore,edenderry and one shared between Drumcullen/Rath and Seir Kieran with more in the pipeline

Hopefully the willpower is here in laois for the likes of Portlaoise and Port to put in one of their own and small progressive rural clubs similar to Rath to fund a third of a GPO also.

My understanding is also that the CB will have call on these GPO also to help with development squads summer camps,Clubs won't have access to them full time.

We also need to get our GDA numbers back up as well,I think,we were given a budget by Croke Park for 5 and a games manager 

If we don't get those numbers up quickly,there's a chance given the current climate that budget not being spent might be taken off us and spent elsewhere 

Is there many clubs interested in the new GPO roles being brought forward by Leinster Gaa?
Personally think it's a brilliant idea hopefully plenty of clubs buy in,

Full details to be explained on a Laois Gaa webinar tomorrow, Monday night

On their own it would be a lot. For possibly 2-3 clubs pool together maybe more likely.

Offaly have 3 already in place with more to follow.

I think it could be a hard sell in Laois from the few I've spoken to about it ,there's an element of we will wait and see who does it

Hope I'm wrong though

In any All Ireland set up the State will be run by those elected by the voters.
That will rule out loonylefties being in any kind of power.
If Sinn Féin still exist then they will be a Centrist catch all populist party. They're already heading that way with their 2 abortion positions, not to mention their everything free but cut taxes too.
Calling the 26Cos a "failed statelet(sic)" is the language of the 1950s and is now only used by brainwashed eejits.

Poor Angelo

He has more in common with the likes of Jim Alister.

It should be done in stages with Fermanagh rejoining first  because Fermanagh had voted allegiance to Dáil Éireann pre 1921.

Throne would be next , then Derry, followed by Armagh
Maybe Down could be digested in stages.

And Antrim, with Larne at the end.

Rejoining?

This isn't about rejoining.

This is about a new and free United Ireland.

There seems to be this arrogance from free staters that they are letting us in for some reason.

You seemed to have missed the bit where we have a vote to decide if we actually want ye

If we do

There will have be a holding pen for your ilk on the border followed by a re education camp to introduce you to gainful employment and not the notion of a socialist ie Handout Republic .

No.

The problem with Free Staters like yourself is that you seem to be under the illusion that ye are going to be housing northerners.

It's about a the cessation of two failed statelets, one denigrated by sectarianism and oppression, the other by political corruption and private business interests.

Your comments say it all, you have utter contempt for nothern nationalists but this is going to happen in spite of how much you resist. The days of a FFG dominated FS are numbered, they have destroyed future generations of young people and they won't vote for those parties any more. Putting the bankers, Larry Goodman, Denis O'Brien and the property developers ahead of the citizen has brought it to this endgame.

It's the DUP/FF/FG who are actually accelerating this inevitability despite the fact none of these parties wanting it.

Socialism is great till you run out of others peoples money

I've contempt for no one on here bar you.

Actually a SF led government in the Republic would soften their cough when they  have to implement the Austerity that's coming down the tracks 

It should be done in stages with Fermanagh rejoining first  because Fermanagh had voted allegiance to Dáil Éireann pre 1921.

Throne would be next , then Derry, followed by Armagh
Maybe Down could be digested in stages.

And Antrim, with Larne at the end.

Rejoining?

This isn't about rejoining.

This is about a new and free United Ireland.

There seems to be this arrogance from free staters that they are letting us in for some reason.

You seemed to have missed the bit where we have a vote to decide if we actually want ye

If we do

There will have be a holding pen for your ilk on the border followed by a re education camp to introduce you to gainful employment and not the notion of a socialist ie Handout Republic .

This is a fantastic piece and sums up the Free State attitude to northern nationalists.

if that's the free state attitude to northern nationalists

Why would northern nationalists want to join with us in a United Ireland ?

Such a sweeping statement when there was a civil war fought in the south over the terms of the treaty which left the 6 counties behind and in the present day opinion polls have shown a consistent desire for a UI in the 26

That's a typical entitled free state Ireland viewpoint

We don't want to leave our rotten state to join your rotten state.

We need a new Ireland, that consigns the bigotry of unionism of the political gangsterism of FFG to the dustbin.

That's why partitionists like you just don't get it.

You hate us

That's fairly obvious

I really don't understand then why you want to join us in a UI

Are there many more like you up there?

Because if there are,you are doing the job of preventing a UI better than any DUPer or Loyalist could ever do

Completely self defeating in your attitude of hectoring and insulting those of us in the south who might vote for a UI

This is a fantastic piece and sums up the Free State attitude to northern nationalists.

if that's the free state attitude to northern nationalists

Why would northern nationalists want to join with us in a United Ireland ?

Such a sweeping statement when there was a civil war fought in the south over the terms of the treaty which left the 6 counties behind and in the present day opinion polls have shown a consistent desire for a UI in the 26

Working a) from the criteria in the OP and b) that 16 locations are needed, currently it would stand at:

London (Wembley)
London (Spurs)
Birmingham (villa)
Manchester (United)
Liverpool (Anfield)
Newcastle (United)

Cardiff (Principality)
Glasgow (Hampden)
Edinburgh (Murrayfield)
Dublin (Croke)

Sunderland makes all of the criteria - but is it really a different city to Newcastle?

With small extensions to capacity or minor exclusions you'd also get:
Leeds
Sheffield

That's 13.

From what I can gather the only major stadium project afoot in the UK is Everton. So 3 locations would have to be found and created.

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Casement might yet be built to host 40k soccer matches. Pairc ui Coaimh is bound to come under the spotlight too - converting it to an all seater would surely have less golden elephants about it than most potential projects.

Would it take much to get the likes of Nottingham Forest ground up to standard? I'm sure there's also a good few others that they could potentially renovate and meet the criteria. Lot of countries build multiple stadiums to host it.

Would imagine the likes of Glasgow and Manchester will have two stadiums while London likely to have three.

2 stadia per city limit

[the Economic self harm argument remains exactly the same.]

Shows the difference some really poor Politicing makes, the Economic self harm argument remains exactly the same.

Has the EU's vaccination nightmare not punctured a large hole in that argument?

Ni Fully vaccinated 31,000

Republic Fully vaccinated 113,291

I know maths don't tend to be a strong point of Unionism or suit the narrative the likes of Paisley are peddling

But it looks like NI is lagging behind in the number of Fully vaccinated in comparison to the Republic

That's the point. Ulster had this figured out in the 50's and 60's, where the Ulster final rotated between the three venues. Ulster needs a Munster solution where the finals can move about. Clones for northern half of Ulster is a bad location, so the vision for Casement is correct. The management of this has been an absolute disaster

It isn't a solution to have several enormous great stadiums only used every 4 or 5 years.
Belfast is not only offside in Ulster but offside in Ireland, there are few neutral games that it would suit.
However, a stadium in Belfast and an somewhat improved Clones for games that it suited would be OK, if they get it done.

An inflatable roof would be a game changer at Casement.

Complains about Stadia in Munster and then wants one with a retractable stadium in Belfast?

You need to go back and do your sums on that one

There is a difference between complaining about multiple stadiums infrequently used and suggesting a way to make one stadium more useful and so used more.
I am not an expert on the cost of the economics of such roofs. But the fact that the Connacht training centre has one suggests that perhaps this technology might be now becoming more affordable.

I see you did a bit of editing and changed it from retractable to inflatable

Still wouldn't be a runner

That's the point. Ulster had this figured out in the 50's and 60's, where the Ulster final rotated between the three venues. Ulster needs a Munster solution where the finals can move about. Clones for northern half of Ulster is a bad location, so the vision for Casement is correct. The management of this has been an absolute disaster

It isn't a solution to have several enormous great stadiums only used every 4 or 5 years.
Belfast is not only offside in Ulster but offside in Ireland, there are few neutral games that it would suit.
However, a stadium in Belfast and an somewhat improved Clones for games that it suited would be OK, if they get it done.

An inflatable roof would be a game changer at Casement.

Complains about Stadia in Munster and then wants one with a retractable stadium in Belfast?

You need to go back and do your sums on that one

It's essentially a subcommittee. It's years since it was a board. Croke Park scrapped those years ago.
It will be interesting to see how much influence he can have.

I think you'll find a lot of counties still have boards in place for both codes or in particular the weaker code in the county.

That's a moot point regardless.

If he can't effect change even on a revenue neutral basis for hurling,who does.

It's interesting to compare and contrast with our friends in Offaly what's going on under Duignans albeit full CB Chairmanship

Hundreds of thousands raised with the help of Shane Lowry for the Faithfull Fields

Planning in place for another 4 GDA's

6 GPO positions being laid out,2 attaches to clubs already with another one to be shared between 2 clubs shortly

I don't think the argument is whether these things should happen.
It's whether it falls under the remit of this position. It's open to interpretation.

You appeared to disagree with my suggestion that it was an improvement?

I think anything would be an improvement as to what's gone before tbh

I presume the hurling board chairman would be responsible for all hurling in the county and act as a catalyst for change and improvements

Your saying the role is limited

How limited is it?

What can he do?

And more importantly what can't he do?