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i have great admiration for someone like conor gormley

he's always developing as a player and willing to try new things even if they don't become popular - like bringing the headed clearance into gaelic football in 2004 i think...  

very good rick!
think he near knocked himself out that day!

I admire him.

You see, that's the problem, people like you who actually admire the man.

Don't you remember the good old days when no one criticised us for that type of thing? When we rained on no one's parade, so that Kerry, Meath, Dublin, Down, etc., could win without worrying about the white and red; when we were universally admired for the great sports we were; when we never tired of the fruitless pursuit; and when we never won a bloody thing.

Who says you have to resort to these antics to win All-Irelands. Surely you can win All-Irelands AND play the game in the right manner?

sorry, i'm still struggling to see the issue you have with tyrone on sunday.
the game wasnt played in a bad spirit, although it had that slight edge that all good games have.
No one commited a really bad tackle, struck or did anything else that i would deem particularly dirty.(closest thing to this was Earlys swing at ricey)
both teams were physical,but again nothing overly untoward.Is your main problem really Gormleys smirk at his opponent?

I'd be quite happy for Tyrone to continue playing in the manner they did on sunday and keep winning all irelands, just as i would have no issue with Kerry , cork mayo or meath winning the AI the same way

to be fair, its the big high-feilding midfielder, the likes of whelan or o'se ,that Hub normally excels against.
mickey usually send him out to do a spoiling job and break as much as he can and then tyrone depend on the likes of dooher, ricey,mcginley, jordan etc to pick up the majority of breaks around the middle.
was impressed with packies kickouts on sunday alright, relieved the pressure quite a few times

[A lot is being made of Cork's height, strength & athletism & was it the main factors in getting them over Kerry.]

It's been a strange season so far for Tyrone
Getting of to the usual meetings with the two aul enemies Armagh & Derry

Then onto the new ground of Antrim in an Ulster final and then Kildare in a quarterfinal.
Now Cork in a AI semi which is another first but will it end there or will we revert to a winner takes all for the decade clash with the mighty Mayo sorry I mean Kerry. 

I'd say there will be a lot of analysis and comparing of styles between Cork & Tyrone in the next few weeks.
Will be a battle of tactics with players trying to get the edge and swapping of positions all over the field or will it be a war of attrition as Brolly loves to say.

I  must say it was good to see Tyrone's reaction to going in 4 points down at half time and struggling to win much ball in the middle third.
A lot is being made of Cork's height, strength & athletism & was it the main factors in getting them over Kerry.
All year people have been saying Tyrone are just coasting and its dangerous going into big games like that but Cork haven't exactly had their necks pinned to the collar this season and so hopefully we get another cracker game like last Sunday.

makes it all the more important we get mc ginley back

Jonny Curran has no interest in football.

I'm glad MH ignored your advice about Stevie longball 

why would he defend Tyrones number 4 when the original comment was made about Connor Gormley?

Good point!

Well that should have read number 6, it was a typing error. As for the number 4 well the same things apply to him anyway. You still can't defend Gormley though.

defend Gormley for what?smiling at an opponent?
what did ricey do this time?

I can understand people taking issue with these players when they actually do something wrong(eg. the ricey/galvin incident), but when you trawl through a game to find the slightest thing so you can get a dig in , its a bit sad

[red card]

I think every neutral in the country will be willing him on in this crusade. He epitimosises all that is nasty and sneaky in gaelic football. Thinks he is a hardman but its all an act.

Learn to use the quotes properly on this board: red card - off with you!

I'm terribly sorry. I notice you didn't put up any defence of your number 4 though. I'm presuming you can't defend his antics so.

why would he defend Tyrones number 4 when the original comment was made about Connor Gormley?

Its Darren Bent not marcus!

Apologies,
Aye, I meant him

that aside, yes he is well over rated... but he's english

overpriced yes, but if he gets 15 goals for them this season (which he could) it wont be bad business for sunderland

thi is the only other place i see it, goal.com

Liverpool Sign Roma Ace Alberto Aquilani - Report
The latest reports from Spain claim the midfielder has signed for the Reds, but news emerging from Italy is more cautious in tone...


Liverpool have signed Roma midfielder Alberto Aquilani, according to the latest reports from Spain.

Marca claims Roma have accepted an €18million bid for the Italian midfielder. Reds manager Rafael Benitez is said to be keen on the Italian.

The report suggests the Spanish coach has moved in quickly in an attempt to have an alternative to Xabi Alonso. Voices in Spain claim Alonso is on the verge of joining Real Madrid, and it appears Liverpool have wasted no time in signing his replacement.

It is said Liverpool are still trying to negotiate a deal with Real Madrid for Alonso. According to Marca, the Reds want nothing less than  €35m for the Spanish international.

Sky Sport Italia are speculating that Aquilani has agreed to a four year deal worth €4m per season with the Reds, but the move is hinging on Alonso's passage to the Bernabeu.

Despite the reports in Spain, there has been no official confirmation from Roma regarding the news that Aquilani has signed for the Anfield-based club.

Salvatore Landolina, Goal.com

1204 BST: Liverpool have signed Roma midfielder Alberto Aquilani for £15.3m. (Spanish newspaper Marca)

From BBC Sport Gossip

Can't see it anywhere else though.

link?

Went in to get an 18 game this morning, and was asked for ID!!           

What game?

I was asked because I was going to get the Godfather, the first one, had it on the ps2 years ago and was going to get it for the xbox as I've just finished Godfather II (fantastic game).  As it turned out they hadnt the manual for it so I got GRAW 2 instead.  It had only a 16 age limit so he was happy to let me have it after studying by driving licence for 5 minutes (and querying it if came from the Isle of Man??!)

went to buy a carry out from a supermarket in newzealand and was asked for ID (im 27!)by a young girl who was 18 max.
laughed and fished out my drivers license, she looked at it and  says, i cant except that cause its not a new zealand drivers licence!!
was getting a bit pissed off at that stage so asked to see some one who actually was over 18, she went and got the manager( who was a real bitch), and she also wouldnt accept the UK license, even though it was obviously a genuine ID and I was obviously well over 18!!

Quick  question... When driving to croker has anyone taken the port tunnel and then the east wall rd up to clonliffe rd? Just looking at  google maps an it appears to be very direct. What's the parking like round that side of croke? I would usually come down the drumcondra rd but I doubt it'll be right an busy with Donegal and Tyrone traffic coming from the same direction.

You could have something there all right og, if you're coming down the motorway you'll know how the volume of traffic is by the time you reach the tunnel entrance. But as you say, it's a straight run up the East Wall to Clonliffe Road if you do take the tunnel, and I believe it would be €4.00 on a Sunday.

went that way  for the first time going to U2 on monday night, would be easier to find somewere to park alright and if its really busy at the port tunnel end it prob is a bit quicker

like oneils say, when SON scored at the end of the 2003 final,but for me final whistle 2005 just about topped it.
95 ulster semi has to get a mention aswell

start the thread longballs

[I've seen the Chillis live twice, 1 good, 1 poor (Phoenix Park).]

Bowie in the point a few years ago was top quality.
The Stunning came on after Brian Adams in Féile in 1992 and blew the place apart.
Been to Radiohead and loved them live.
I've seen the Chillis live twice, 1 good, 1 poor (Phoenix Park).
Agree about the Frames live but Vicar Street isn't Croker.
Saw Oasis in Lansdowne 1999 (?) very good also.


U2 Saturday night is up there with anything I've seen (that may fade with time).

agree with that, seen them at slane and though tthey were first class, coulnt wait to see them again, then at the phoenix park gig and they were very poor and sound was a bit off

Ed Norton was brilliant in Prime Evi, the one where he plays the split personality guy.  Even better than the book.

really ?
i thought the book was much better, although norton was good, was  a bit disappointed  in the film