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HS! That's way worse than I imagined. Who do they think they are?

Apart from anything else, Is this not this a crime? Why are the police not involved

I didn't hear the Nolan show nor do I think would I want to. there is only one reason he would get someone with that attitude on and that is to cause more outrage.

I fully agree with the sentiments above we are increasingly living in a society that is questioning traditions and beliefs that have been handed down through the generations, stood the test of time and shaped our society in the process. Turning against these tried and tested methods for living will lead to society becoming less cohesive with serious consequences some of which we are actually now seeing.

Some of the questions i have:

Why is adultery not a crime? Legal promise made but if broken...no actual big deal legally??? But serious consequences for the family in the short term and long term.

Why is gambling legal? What actual purpose does it serve?

Why is porn legal? Seriously.... how? when? why?

I'm sure there is a big temptation to paint me as some sort of political radical right winger but I am actually not. Politically I am more left wing as I believe there is more compassion and values on the left instead of the greed and prejudice on the right. However because of its openness the left is hijacked by loose morals proposing to be for freedom of expression, liberty or whatever else.

The bias against Tyrone from some is nauseating. The guy was fouled twice maybe 3 times in a manner that would warrant a black card EOS

That's correct WT4E, but also when you are face on, you are entitled to try and play the ball. In fact you are entitled to try and play the ball at any time, you're just not very likely to get it if you're reaching in from behind, and you are more likely to foul that way. That's why we coach footwork and body position as well as the near hand tackle etc.

*However* just because you are out of position and reaching in, that does not necessarily mean you are fouling, and does not entitle a lad to grab you and pull you down on top of him. It's probably bad technique, but it's not illegal technique unless you are actually fouling the man. There's no rule that says you can't tackle the ball from behind, in front, the side or anywhere else.

That's all fine and well AZ and I agree with what your saying.

Problem is in this case its irrelevant considering the fact that Hughes grabbed him and pulled him down equating to a foul

Yep.

Monaghan have never been blessed with footballing ability or brains. That's why no AIs.

But they eat a lot and train. That can be dangerous.

Think you hit the nail on the head there O'Neill

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/determined-conor-mcmanus-goes-distance-to-take-on-tyrone-30344717.html

I honestly don't understand how Mickey Harte thinks Conor is gonna play...

I think MH is trying to keep his players on their toes, the recent champo wins against Monaghan may have lulled many of his players into thinking Monaghan will be a walk in the park and with McManus out all the more so.

Problem is all of those matches with Monaghan have been tough tight affairs with us usually squeezing just about thru. Many of those matches could easily have gone the other way and that was with a weaker Monaghan team than present playing a stronger Tyrone team.

Pretty disappointing that MH has to keep his players motivated coming into a match with the reigning Ulster champions.....

For us that don't know can you explain?

Farney, is comprised of about 6 parishes in the south east of the county (where they talk with a Louth/south Armagh type accent). Farney is a misnomer when used for the whole county. It would be a bit like Inishowen in Donegal, or Ards in Down. Not that The Irish News cares, as it makes for better bylines. Gaelic Life, get it right, more often than not. The whole of the county is in the Kingdom of Oriel, so it's more accurate.

So whats the deal with the Farney army then? Inniskeen lads only need apply

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTQQa1djtF8

Cynical stuff by Monaghan around 7:35 here.

Thanks for shedding light on these offences O'Neill. We are all the wiser for it. Your forensic trawling through past matches going back to 1988 is the stuff of...a sado that seriously needs to get a life.

OK, but how do you defend the cynical laughter after this goal around 1:09?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rxrsu9ot2Q

O'Neill I don't know where u got that from but I think that's the most serious offence you have unearthed!
Monaghan folk have some serious questions to answer

BTW O'Neill David Forde could have a job for you with the HET

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTQQa1djtF8

Cynical stuff by Monaghan around 7:35 here.

Well done , had to laugh watching that clip

Stone Wall Penalty,  referee hadnt the gahunas to give it , home town decision

I remember it well, the Ref was shocking that day

McStay's a wee squirt!!!

So he is! I Never remember him being that small

Who's behind him?

shame shame and more shame - exactly the wrong example to teach anyone - there is absolutely NO JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT DIVING - lets not pretend - that free at the end was a dive DIVE DIVE DIVE - Shame on that - defend all you want tyrone men - that was a DIVE

If the ref gives the free for blatant hauling and dragging (cynical play) then the player doesn't have to go to ground. Why shouldn't he bring fouls to the attention of the referee? Should he let himself get dragged all over Healy Park, when his team need a score to stay in the championship just because the ref is turning a blind eye and to keep faceless internet warriors happy? Sean's our go to man in these situations and Down know it, I'm happy he did what he had to do. A foul occurred, we got the free, Sean showed his class to put it over and we are still in the championship. Maybe Down will think twice before they try their cynical fouling on him next week.

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Fact is Sean was fouled multiple times and didnt get a free. He hits the deck and he gets one, who's in the wrong

The offending player? YES
The referee? YES

Sean Cav NO

End of story!

Sean Cavanagh diving out there today was embarrassing out today.His brother Colm is just as bad,There getting away with this for years

He got a tap in the midriff in the 2nd half and I thought his spleen must have exploded going by his reaction.
It was not unlike that of a goldfish that had just been tipped out of it's bowl.
Ten seconds later he was up and about again without a care in the world.
Why does he do it?

Big Sean got a vicious cowardly dig in the ribs while he was coming through at full flight. There is history there between Lavery and him and it was no accident as the replay shows.

Question is why was Lavery booked for striking? SHOULD HAVE WALKED!

No. Lads get digs all the time. The question is why Cavanagh makes a spectacle of himself by performing convulsive gyrations on the ground fifteen seconds after the event as if he was being zapped by a couple of invisible 440KV electrodes. It's embarrassing. Act like a man, ffs.

Have you ever got a dig in the ribs while in full flight? Yes well then you will know it is extremely painfull

Lets stick to the facts here.

Are you saying it was not a foul?
Are you saying that striking is not a red card offence?

Here's the facts:
It was deliberate, cowardly, dangerous and the perpertrator SHOULD HAVE WALKED

It's Laverty.

Oh Sorry

"Cowardly little runt" will do him rightly

Sean Cavanagh diving out there today was embarrassing out today.His brother Colm is just as bad,There getting away with this for years

He got a tap in the midriff in the 2nd half and I thought his spleen must have exploded going by his reaction.
It was not unlike that of a goldfish that had just been tipped out of it's bowl.
Ten seconds later he was up and about again without a care in the world.
Why does he do it?

Big Sean got a vicious cowardly dig in the ribs while he was coming through at full flight. There is history there between Lavery and him and it was no accident as the replay shows.

Question is why was Lavery booked for striking? SHOULD HAVE WALKED!

Few questions for Coldrick?
What was he thinking for the Tyrone Penalty? How was it not a black card and where was the advantage?

Why did he give Conor Lavery a yellow card for striking SeanC?

Is the black card not for a deliberate foul? If so Morgan's foul wasn't deliberate, penalty yes but he had committed to spreading himself and had been sent the wrong way by the Down player, penalty yes but black card no!

Also why wait until Big Sean goes to ground to give him his free?

I will revert to M Harte's 10 year old sermon about consistently in referring must come first!

With all that said Tyrone's defence is a shambles and probably deserved to lose

Ref got it completely wrong on penalty. Should have played advantage and/or black card. People make mistakes.

Morgan definitely appeared to be deliberate trip. Black card correct.

Big Sean goes to ground that quick that the referee doesn't have time to blow his whistle before he hits the ground.

Despite the criticism that will not be the worst refereeing performance of the year.

Thought both teams deserved to lose at one stage or other. Draw fair enough.

Appearing to be a deliberate trip I agree but after viewing the replay it defo wasn't a  penalty yes but never a black card

Coldrick's reaction time must be super slow (a possibility) if it takes him 10 secs to blow a for a foul? Big S was fouled multiple times he didnt foul himself

Also do u actually think it was a bad refereeing performance? U seem to have justified most of his mistakes