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General discussion / Re: Films and TV shows which will be banned
« on: June 11, 2020, 07:07:37 PM »
Surely Gladiator is way worse than GWTW?

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O'Duffy was a leading GAA figure in his day.
Heard tales when he was Ulster Secretary he wouldn't accept Referees' reports if Monaghan lost but would find some technicality to order a replay or award the game to Monaghan.
He got booted from Ulster GAA but also has the terrace named after him. That has to go IMO

Your hardly in a position to be rearing your head at this time!

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Couldn't they just say they are named after Joni instead of John? ???

Or Frank. Keep it local

Haha-or Phil from Eastenders

Or Charles from RTE back in the day...
surprised there’s not a George Mitchell’s somewhere

Careful now... allegations there too

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Couldn't they just say they are named after Joni instead of John? ???

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Now the BLM has gained a bit of momentum in the UK and the pulling down of that slave trader statue in Bristol the establishment there are now having to look at their wrongdoings in the past and face up to them of sorts except Winston, he's an all round good guy and off bounds for critical analysis of his various misdeeds.

This is a great wee website tracing those involved in the slave trade and were paid off by the British taxpayer to stop their evil deeds.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/

Prentices in Newry and Armagh feature.............

Oh he'll get his historical comeuppance too. WWII is sacred in the UK, but that might not last forever. Peter Hitchens, hardly a pinko leftie, has written about how the UK went into WWII not to save the world (and certainly not to save the Jews, if anything they did nothing to stop the holocaust when they could have) but to preserve Britain's status as a great power. Germany was bemused when the Brits joined in. They were like "WTF has this got to do with you?" WWII was originally an eastward-looking conflict. Hitler wanted to conquer lands to his east in order to feed the German industrial machine. Knocking France out of action was a prerequisite for his main objective which was capturing Eastern Europe.

The Western campaign was a distraction for the Nazis, and it ended up costing Britain it's great power status rather than securing it. It took Suez to get it into their heads that they'd lost it, although I'm not sure if it ever fully sunk in.

Every country in the world exists for one reason and that is to further its own interests, any other consequences of that are only consequences, positive ones are  only propaganda. Any middlin decent political analyst can decipher that.

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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« on: June 05, 2020, 11:11:20 PM »
Are we sure this isnt some sort of largescale artwork thing?

I find the behaviour of one of the buildings very metaphorical.....


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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: June 05, 2020, 05:05:36 AM »
What "mob"?
White polismen who kill black suspects?

https://www.latimes.com/visuals/graphics/la-me-g-lapd-race-20150319-htmlstory.html

Sometimes I truly get the impression that Irish (and most other european nationalities tbf) people are truly out of touch with reality in America despite having very strong opinions on how America should do things. I do understand this I was that person
Perhaps you should consider it may be yourself who is truly out of touch with reality.

I have considered that... but then I also consider the homogeneous simplistic way that I used to view the states vs the recognition of the complex diverse 50 states that I am actually living in and you can see which version I'd prob trust more.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: June 05, 2020, 02:25:58 AM »
What "mob"?
White polismen who kill black suspects?

https://www.latimes.com/visuals/graphics/la-me-g-lapd-race-20150319-htmlstory.html

Sometimes I truly get the impression that Irish (and most other european nationalities tbf) people are truly out of touch with reality in America despite having very strong opinions on how America should do things. I do understand this I was that person

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GAA Discussion / Re: East Belfast GAA
« on: June 05, 2020, 12:31:31 AM »
And even though I think that it should be a source of embarrassment that 1/6th of the population of Ireland is excluded - or feels itself excluded - from playing particular sports, I might add that I'm not "offended" by this.

Are you embarrassed because  you exclude yourself from normal life in Ireland because you identify with the 17th century?
If my sport excluded 48%(?) of the population of NI I'd certainly be embarrassed.

That's because I try to live my life in the 21st century, where what "foot you dig with" shouldn't determine what foot you kick with.

And yet you are embarrassed by GSTQ

Fully in the 21st century despite waving a 20th century flag?

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GAA Discussion / Re: East Belfast GAA
« on: June 05, 2020, 12:28:31 AM »
Justin case your not feeling free to explain why GSTQ gets an airing at NI matches and not in Wales or Scotland? Danny Boy is widely recognized as a neutral alternative.
I, and a whole lot of fans I know, would greatly prefer something like Danny Boy.

But the IFA is not going to change GSTQ anytime soon, at least while England retain it, not because of some inalienable attachment, but because it would just raise another shit-storm from DUP types who don't even follow the game. Meaning it's easier just to play it for 8 or 10 internationals, out of the thousands of games played up and down the country every season. Meaning they're craven rather than dogmatic.

But it's interesting that you call for a "neutral" anthem. Would the GAA be willing to adopt a neutral anthem too, at least for games played in NI?

And should the IRFU drop the SS completely and just make do with Ireland's Call, for the sake of consistency?

And if the whole Nationalism thing is just a formality maybe you could explain why Windsor Park is decked out Union Jacks from pillar to post, then there is the sectarian chanting, booing of Catholic players. I think its fair to say most Catholics prob just put up with it as its a commercial opportunity.
It isn't "decked out with UJ's from pillar to post". A few fans bring them - it's hardly illegal - but they're only a small minority of the flags and banners on display.
Nor is there "sectarian chanting" and Catholic players do not get booed.

I suppose you might be forgiven for believing that, since you've clearly never been to an NI international, yet certain people with an agenda perpetuate these outdated myths which (presumably) suit your own perspective.

Meanwhile, those who do take the trouble to attend, know that the reality is far different these days eg:
https://www.northernslant.com/son-first-northern-ireland-match/

Then again, you might already have known this, since didn't your very own Jerome Quinn go to a game at Windsor in his GAA top looking for a "story" and the best he could come up with is that some people "looked at him" (Er, you're "that fella from the telly", Jerome); a fanzine seller gave him  a free copy ("How dare he"); oh and the fans hummed the theme from "The Great Escape" (the very essence of sectarianism...).

I suspect that if you attended, you'd be similarly disappointed ("Disabused" rather than "Abused"?  ;) )

On another note.... is that your Linda?
Oh my aching sides.

Now Now Linda dont get so upset

I do apologise for my lack of knowledge on soccer and the comings and goings of NI soccer team and its supporters I am only going on what I hear and see on the news.

So basically your saying GSTQ is only still getting an outing because the DUP types (who are easily the majority of the supporters) would be in uproar.

I also apologise on the UJ, I forgot about that the defunct sectarian statelet flag is the flag of preference for NI supporters

I'll give Windsor a pass tho, unless there was some decent sports played there

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GAA Discussion / Re: East Belfast GAA
« on: June 04, 2020, 11:38:35 PM »

Does your flag and anthem mean there’s no room for fenians in your team?
Why not ask them?

As I said in my earlier Edit, the flag and anthem in GAA fairly reflect the whole ethos of the sport(s), at every level, in every corner.

Whereas with football, the NI flag and anthem only appears because it is a requirement of the world governing body, FIFA, that for internationals (only) they be included in the pre-match protocol.

And while some people get teary-eyed etc for 90 seconds before kick-off, most appreciate that it's just a formality, we're really there to play the Germans (or whomever).

Meanwhile, for 99% of matches in NI, none of this applies. And nobody cares.

(For myself, I find the playing of the anthems is the perfect time to go for one last pre-match piss, the queue for the bogs having died down by then)

 ;D ;D ;D What?? ;D ;D ;D Your joking for the craic right?

Justin case your not feeling free to explain why GSTQ gets an airing at NI matches and not in Wales or Scotland? Danny Boy is widely recognized as a neutral alternative.
And if the whole Nationalism thing is just a formality maybe you could explain why Windsor Park is decked out Union Jacks from pillar to post, then there is the sectarian chanting, booing of Catholic players. I think its fair to say most Catholics prob just put up with it as its a commercial opportunity.

On another note.... is that your Linda?

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GAA Discussion / Re: East Belfast GAA
« on: June 04, 2020, 11:23:22 PM »
I think those who heard her on the radio did listen to her. They decided they didn’t want what she was asking for. Which is fair enough, I think.
The wannabe types from our side don’t go asking Ulster Rugby to change their traditions to suit us.They just go along and pretend they are like them.Linda Ervine either joins up under our traditions or else just keep getting the coin for what is her admirable work in the promotion of the Irish language.We are what we are!
What 'traditions' at Ulster Rugby need to be changed?

That werid WWF Easter Egg hunt thing

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GAA Discussion / Re: East Belfast GAA
« on: June 04, 2020, 10:02:13 PM »

Fantastic. Just shows you the pent-up demand there is for GAA activity in places you'd least expect.

There's two CCMS schools & parishes on the Newtonards Road St Matthews and St Jospeh's both with 300+ pupils attending. I imagine they both go to St Malachy's and Bredagh respectively at the minute. Plenty of appetite there for a club in my opinion Linda Irvine or not

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GAA Discussion / Re: East Belfast GAA
« on: June 04, 2020, 09:45:55 PM »


A bit to go before Portavogie and Donaghadee are challenging for hurling honours.

I can a dual club in North Down.... Millsle Mary Lous

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General discussion / Re: 11-Plus Proposal
« on: June 04, 2020, 07:18:59 PM »
Why are you comparing the results to England?

Because it supports the argument that the system in NI is superior and that no change is needed. However that is a very flawed argument, as it involves essentially a "creaming" of students, particularly at A-Level, against one single country that while itself has a mostly comprehensive public education system, still has three geographic areas where the 11+ still essentially exists (Kent, Buckinghamshire & Lincolnshire). No measure is taken of academic & vocational achievements outside of GCSE's & A-Levels with this thinking - different policies by schools as to wherever what children should be entered into exams e.g. keeping weaker students out of taking GCSEs often to improve "league table" results.

FTR, there's decades of research written about the overall academic outcomes between the parts of England still using academic selection, and those that don't. The general consensus is that on an overall basis, those English counties still using academic selection are achieving no better overall outcomes compared to elsewhere in the country.

A good "fit for purpose" (sorry for using such a cliche) education system helps rise all the boats in a convoy - scuttling the smaller/less powerful ones to make yourself look better is not a nominal public education strategy that is beneficial in the longer term.

I would be more interested in looking at Finland.  Been widely acknowledged as the best education system in the world.

If your stronger evidence is results of English schools then you are setting the bar fairly low internationally.
But don't look at the number of pupils leaving schools here compared to England with no GCSE's or less than 5 GCSE's or less than 5 GCSE's including Math's and English. 

Now if you can send me evidence that setting produces better results for all pupils I will be happy to have a look....

Finland has been scoring highly in recent PISA tests that compare educational outcomes around the world, as has its neighbour across the water, Estonia. Funnily enough, Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian have similar language roots - I understand those speaking Finnish can somewhat understand Estonian and vice versa, not sure where Hungarian lies, but Hungary has been ranking a lot lower than Finland & Estonia. Anyway, the Finnish language is one of the easiest Indo-European languages to understand between its vocal & written form which helps when it comes to obtaining high scores in reading/literacy. However, what also helps is that teachers in Finland have to obtain a masters degree to teach, they have a lot of autonomy as to how they teach their pupils, have a comprehensive system for students up until 16 y.o., and that the profession is very highly respected in Finnish society - you don't get the begrudgery of teachers that you often see on these isles.

This quote from a lecturer at a teacher training school in Helsinki was a bit of a punch to the guts... “When we got the results, we were thinking, if we are that good, how bad are the others? We were taken by surprise”  :o

Final tidbit - funny how you rarely, if ever, see northern nationalists compare the NI school system to that in the south.

Interesting... also heard that the teachers stay with pupils for multiple years.
On a side note I find it interesting that their language is considered very "simple" as they hoors never speak... Kimi Raikkonen is very reflected of my experience with finns

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