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Fairly sure you could round up 15 Leitrim men in New York for the game....not every year Leitrim have a chance to lift 2 trophies in the one year!

Did they make two different trophies for the same tournament? Did someone get a little drunk when they were drawing up plans for the FBD?

[The cinematography and scoring is absolutely stunning.]

Oh man. This is very literally the best final season I have ever seen. The cinematography and scoring is absolutely stunning. So many moments in Granite State alone. The bar scene with Elliott and Gretchen on the screen, it just drew you right back into Walt's world. Time for the swansong.

Maybe Walt just has the ricin as a fail-safe in case he's captured? It would almost be fitting that it's what kills him after bringing this world down on top of himself and his family. Walt can probably work out the Nazis are holding Jesse now that he knows the blue is back at such a high purity after all the trouble they were having raising it only a few months ago.

What does this mean? 

Think I may put Breaking Bad above The Wire now.

You're rolling your eyes at you own ignorance, I assume. Very common film terms. Google is your friend.

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Re: FBD Final NY13  ''in the current climate we couldn't expect the lads to take off work ''  We could at least have been asked! #fbd #joke

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The most frustrating thing is having to find out via @hoganstandgaa that the trip to NY is not going ahead!

Once again players have no say!

Shamblolic shite by the county board trying to pass it off as being worried about players' jobs and not even telling them it was cancelled. As the organisers it should be Connacht GAA funding the winners' trip, not the winning county. They make it into a punishment by shackling individual counties with the costs. It'd be a worthwhile reward for a team if they applied it correctly.

A kick in the teeth after a season that turned very bitter for Leitrim.

The two Laois lads in Carrick for the Donegal match were mad craic anyways.

GTA vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

Everything I could have hoped for from a new GTA and the spiritual successor to San Andreas. They've dispensed with the slightly staid lean towards realism in GTA IV - base jumping/parachuting is back, cars can do proper stunts when you run them off a ramp or ledge, they're willing to go crazy with the missions again (I've fought aliens with a chain-gun, sssh) and on top of it all there's much more going on around the city. The ability to switch between the three main characters at any time takes a lot of the monotony out of the game too. Even the character physics are better and being able to mis-time jumps and smack off objects results in some awesome deaths and hilarity. The attention to detail is astounding.

A love letter to GTA and as good a swansong to this console generation as is humanly possible.

From Armagh

Happy to support any ulster county bar Down. Its their arrogance that I struggle with. Tyrone we love to beat but at same time will support them when they are playing a non ulster county. Out of all the other counties the only ones that I really had a bad experience with was Laois. Go home british b**tards etc in the 1994 league final. Same thing again in 03 1/4 final. Some of the best fans I have met were the Dubs, great craic and get a bad press for some reason.

I forgot about Laois.  The 2005 All Ireland Quarter Final is long forgotten because it was such a one sided game.  Basicly Armagh (at their peak) absolutely just stuffed Laois.  It was like boys against men.  At no point in the game was it even close, and Armagh who were famed at that time for hard hitting football never really had to up the ante.

This description of the match and circumstances makes the atmosphere at the game all the more remarkable.  The Laois fans were horrible, bitter, and aggressive.  They were foul mouthed and partitionist.  I've never seen the like of it before or since.

Had one fella giving out to my (at the time) 6 year old nephew outside the hoganstand bar saying f**k off back to Britain. Seems to be a thing with them. Anyway you cant let yourself be dragged down to the their level. On a more positive note best fans I think are Roscommon. The craic out of them is deadly. Plus it helps I have some friends from the disputed territory of Ballagh and the one sided town of Loughlynn. Cork fans I like for their stoutness, its like defeat is not an option but can take it when it doesn't work out for them.
Mayo I feel for. Jesus what is it gonna take.

If you have friends from Ballagh then you have friends from Mayo.

No Ballagh is inside the Roscommon border is it not ?

Basic geography isn't Mayo GAA peoples' strongest suit, God help the poor things.

Always liked the craic out of Armagh lads, by the way. Derry and Down tend to be good too but I haven't had many occasions to see our counties play.

Athlone expanded to take in the Hyde yer? 

All in good time, Monksland first.

I usually see the maroon jerseys, pause for a second and then realise 'ah, sure it's just Westmeath'.

Excellent interview with Andy on Newstalk last nite, said he expected Horan to be back which would be great news. He sat down and watched the match again yesterday, as Wooly said with the nagover and the fear how is that even possible.

Andy also talked about lads looking for their S&C programmes in the next four weeks

Unbelievable commitment, a credit to Mayo

It is almost October, if they weren't looking for off-season training at this stage they'd be failing behind.

We won't know what scars Sunday inflicted until May or June at the earliest. Andy's as positive a man as there is but this was the sort of blow few teams come back better from. We'll see.

Sure we might as well try it for the craic. Let Dont Matter divvy up the city and Eamonnca can get who ever designed the San Fran jersey to make some new threads in shades of blue.

Oh man. This is very literally the best final season I have ever seen. The cinematography and scoring is absolutely stunning. So many moments in Granite State alone. The bar scene with Elliott and Gretchen on the screen, it just drew you right back into Walt's world. Time for the swansong.

Maybe Walt just has the ricin as a fail-safe in case he's captured? It would almost be fitting that it's what kills him after bringing this world down on top of himself and his family. Walt can probably work out the Nazis are holding Jesse now that he knows the blue is back at such a high purity after all the trouble they were having raising it only a few months ago.

[R Hennelly]

Great to see Mayo winning an All Ireland in Croke Park - a bit of a balls that it's overshadowed by the loss in the senior final though.

Have just watched the match again and Tyrone will feel they left this one behind them - when they brought it back to 3, they had chances to close it further and missed them. Similar to the senior game, the team who were able to take their scores better won the game.

Was just looking back to the 2008 / 09 minor teams and five from each team are in or around the panel although only three started last Sunday - Hennelly, AOS & COC. It will be interesting to see how many of the 2013 crop can make it....

Mayo - R Hennelly; D Dolan, K Keane, J Broderick; S McHale, E Reilly, S Nally (0-1); J Cafferty, G McDonagh; C Freeman (0-4), A O'Shea (0-2), R Geraghty (0-1); K Charlton, A Walsh (0-4, 3f), A Corduff (0-1). Subs - D Gavin (0-1) for Charlton (39), D O'Hara for Geraghty (49).

Mayo: Michael Schlingermann; David Gavin, Keith Rogers, Michael Walsh; Ciaran Charlton, Shane McDermott, Caolan Crowe; Danny Kirby, Aidan Walsh (0-6); Andrew Farrell, Darren Coen (0-1), Fergal Durkan; Daryl Herbert, Cillian O'Connor (2-0), Alex Corduff (0-1). Subs: Ian Costello, Jack McDonnell, John Carney (0-1), Michael McCormack

Not a bad return.

Hard to know with current crop. We might get a couple of seniors.
Stephen Coen looks the most likely. I think Hall and Plunkett maybe if they get the size.
Cunniffe and Cian Hanley have another year at minor and both looked very good already this year.

Eh? From a Mayo perspective no stone should be left unturned trying to develop Conroy (probably the most complete of the three FFs), Doherty (who is like a blinkered horse with the ball in hand, but obviously a very talented scorer) and Irwin who has the size and ability to develop into a senior. The other lads baring maybe Hanley would be coming into positions with good depth already.

I m not following you??

Mayo need FFs, not backs. A wing-forward like Hanley would be nice, but secondary to a lad like Conroy in terms of importance. Lads like Hall and Coen may make the cut but they're not at positions where Mayo are crying out for help or even depth. I think Mayo's forwards carried a team that routinely was poor in the middle and a little stand-offish at back. They are where the big potential lies in this Mayo team so it was bizarre you wouldn't mention any of the FFs.

That Irish Times article is probably the poorest piece of GAA  journalism I have ever seen, and that is saying something.
Gavin Cummiskey should be ashamed of himself.
If some of the windup merchants on a forum like this had written it it could have been laughed off. Seriously disrespectful to Mayo as well as Tyrone. Mayo minors were excellent on Sunday and deserved their win.
Tyrone have overachieved with a young team and still could have won the game on Sunday with a bit of luck and a few breaks going their way.
Both teams deserve credit rather than having this rubbish published in a national newspaper.
This years minor final was a much better game in terms of both entertainment and quality of football than the really poor, negative, boring minor final served up last year by Dublin and Meath. I nearly fell asleep in Croke Park during it. I can't remember any outcry after that game?
The media campaign against Tyrone has gone too far now and needs to stop.

Trying to call other minor teams negative after Tyrone's antics this year is a little too rich for human blood. The Kildare robots might be able to handle it, though.

Not bizarre at all Sy. it s just that I ve seen it all before. If there is anything Mayo produce it s knacky minor corner forwards. Hope these lads go back to Club, College and U21s and make it as senior. Not dismissing them at all. And I m not going to scrutinise 17 yr olds on here. 

But you have to factor in that some of the lads that were playing against our forwards will never play senior. Some may not even play senior club. Some of the Mayo minor teams listed above that played in AI finals dont even play any more. That s the reality. You know that when Ros won minor in 06 that a lot of fans would have anticipated that bunch to mature into serious  senior players that would be back in Croke Park as a serious team. But that is not the way it works. As we ve found out often enough it takes a rare enough player to be able to compete when it comes to last 8 and AI final day is a different galaxy.

We've got plenty from that team and there's more to come from a lot of those lads. This is the lazy punditry that's applied to them a lot by outsiders but if the 2006 Mayo U21s walked into a team in free-fall where would they be? Certainly not competing in back-to-back AI finals.

Free-fall doesn't mean a couple championship shocks to minnows, it means the team panel collapsing, once-in-a-lifetime players retiring with years left on their careers, management openly attacking supporters and vice versa. We ended up in D4 heading into the 2010 championship.

Mayo lost to Sligo and Longford in 2010. Big friggin' deal. You've been hanging in D1 for donkey's years. You'd made AI finals four times in the previous decade or so. We didn't have those luxuries so of course progress is going to be judged by a very different graph. A lot of those 2006 players have made serious strides, particularly under Fergie and again this year under Evans. They certainly have not been a failure and their application and dedication has been a clear break from the tumultuous decade of mis-adventures that had preceded them. Roscommon supporters were far more circumspect about the speed progress was likely to happen at than outsiders were. The fooling around last season was another unnecessary set-back.

For Mayo they've got a team coming off two AI finals, two league semis and one league final to integrate players like Adam Gallagher, Conroy, Irwin or Hanley into. You have the luxury of letting the existing team help carry the youngsters on their first few steps. Our lads had no such luck.

Haven' t read the rest but that is bullshit Sy. In 2006 young Mayo players came into a crap management - and that 4 years of crap has possibly cost us an AI. Top players like Boyle and Parsons were destroyed. Players with a bit of balls like Harte were treated like shite. Cop yerself on. Now I ll read the rest of your post.

Crap management or no crap management, what was the general standard of play, funding and expectation in the county? All those crap management teams didn't manage to get ye to drop for D1 once which must be a serious black mark in their quest for crapness.

[R Hennelly]

Great to see Mayo winning an All Ireland in Croke Park - a bit of a balls that it's overshadowed by the loss in the senior final though.

Have just watched the match again and Tyrone will feel they left this one behind them - when they brought it back to 3, they had chances to close it further and missed them. Similar to the senior game, the team who were able to take their scores better won the game.

Was just looking back to the 2008 / 09 minor teams and five from each team are in or around the panel although only three started last Sunday - Hennelly, AOS & COC. It will be interesting to see how many of the 2013 crop can make it....

Mayo - R Hennelly; D Dolan, K Keane, J Broderick; S McHale, E Reilly, S Nally (0-1); J Cafferty, G McDonagh; C Freeman (0-4), A O'Shea (0-2), R Geraghty (0-1); K Charlton, A Walsh (0-4, 3f), A Corduff (0-1). Subs - D Gavin (0-1) for Charlton (39), D O'Hara for Geraghty (49).

Mayo: Michael Schlingermann; David Gavin, Keith Rogers, Michael Walsh; Ciaran Charlton, Shane McDermott, Caolan Crowe; Danny Kirby, Aidan Walsh (0-6); Andrew Farrell, Darren Coen (0-1), Fergal Durkan; Daryl Herbert, Cillian O'Connor (2-0), Alex Corduff (0-1). Subs: Ian Costello, Jack McDonnell, John Carney (0-1), Michael McCormack

Not a bad return.

Hard to know with current crop. We might get a couple of seniors.
Stephen Coen looks the most likely. I think Hall and Plunkett maybe if they get the size.
Cunniffe and Cian Hanley have another year at minor and both looked very good already this year.

Eh? From a Mayo perspective no stone should be left unturned trying to develop Conroy (probably the most complete of the three FFs), Doherty (who is like a blinkered horse with the ball in hand, but obviously a very talented scorer) and Irwin who has the size and ability to develop into a senior. The other lads baring maybe Hanley would be coming into positions with good depth already.

I m not following you??

Mayo need FFs, not backs. A wing-forward like Hanley would be nice, but secondary to a lad like Conroy in terms of importance. Lads like Hall and Coen may make the cut but they're not at positions where Mayo are crying out for help or even depth. I think Mayo's forwards carried a team that routinely was poor in the middle and a little stand-offish at back. They are where the big potential lies in this Mayo team so it was bizarre you wouldn't mention any of the FFs.

That Irish Times article is probably the poorest piece of GAA  journalism I have ever seen, and that is saying something.
Gavin Cummiskey should be ashamed of himself.
If some of the windup merchants on a forum like this had written it it could have been laughed off. Seriously disrespectful to Mayo as well as Tyrone. Mayo minors were excellent on Sunday and deserved their win.
Tyrone have overachieved with a young team and still could have won the game on Sunday with a bit of luck and a few breaks going their way.
Both teams deserve credit rather than having this rubbish published in a national newspaper.
This years minor final was a much better game in terms of both entertainment and quality of football than the really poor, negative, boring minor final served up last year by Dublin and Meath. I nearly fell asleep in Croke Park during it. I can't remember any outcry after that game?
The media campaign against Tyrone has gone too far now and needs to stop.

Trying to call other minor teams negative after Tyrone's antics this year is a little too rich for human blood. The Kildare robots might be able to handle it, though.

Not bizarre at all Sy. it s just that I ve seen it all before. If there is anything Mayo produce it s knacky minor corner forwards. Hope these lads go back to Club, College and U21s and make it as senior. Not dismissing them at all. And I m not going to scrutinise 17 yr olds on here. 

But you have to factor in that some of the lads that were playing against our forwards will never play senior. Some may not even play senior club. Some of the Mayo minor teams listed above that played in AI finals dont even play any more. That s the reality. You know that when Ros won minor in 06 that a lot of fans would have anticipated that bunch to mature into serious  senior players that would be back in Croke Park as a serious team. But that is not the way it works. As we ve found out often enough it takes a rare enough player to be able to compete when it comes to last 8 and AI final day is a different galaxy.

We've got plenty from that team and there's more to come from a lot of those lads. This is the lazy punditry that's applied to them a lot by outsiders but if the 2006 Mayo U21s walked into a team in free-fall where would they be? Certainly not competing in back-to-back AI finals.

Free-fall doesn't mean a couple championship shocks to minnows, it means the team panel collapsing, once-in-a-lifetime players retiring with years left on their careers, management openly attacking supporters and vice versa. We ended up in D4 heading into the 2010 championship.

Mayo lost to Sligo and Longford in 2010. Big friggin' deal. You've been hanging in D1 for donkey's years. You'd made AI finals four times in the previous decade or so. We didn't have those luxuries so of course progress is going to be judged by a very different graph. A lot of those 2006 players have made serious strides, particularly under Fergie and again this year under Evans. They certainly have not been a failure and their application and dedication has been a clear break from the tumultuous decade of mis-adventures that had preceded them. Roscommon supporters were far more circumspect about the speed progress was likely to happen at than outsiders were. The fooling around last season was another unnecessary set-back.

For Mayo they've got a team coming off two AI finals, two league semis and one league final to integrate players like Adam Gallagher, Conroy, Irwin or Hanley into. You have the luxury of letting the existing team help carry the youngsters on their first few steps. Our lads had no such luck.

[R Hennelly]

Great to see Mayo winning an All Ireland in Croke Park - a bit of a balls that it's overshadowed by the loss in the senior final though.

Have just watched the match again and Tyrone will feel they left this one behind them - when they brought it back to 3, they had chances to close it further and missed them. Similar to the senior game, the team who were able to take their scores better won the game.

Was just looking back to the 2008 / 09 minor teams and five from each team are in or around the panel although only three started last Sunday - Hennelly, AOS & COC. It will be interesting to see how many of the 2013 crop can make it....

Mayo - R Hennelly; D Dolan, K Keane, J Broderick; S McHale, E Reilly, S Nally (0-1); J Cafferty, G McDonagh; C Freeman (0-4), A O'Shea (0-2), R Geraghty (0-1); K Charlton, A Walsh (0-4, 3f), A Corduff (0-1). Subs - D Gavin (0-1) for Charlton (39), D O'Hara for Geraghty (49).

Mayo: Michael Schlingermann; David Gavin, Keith Rogers, Michael Walsh; Ciaran Charlton, Shane McDermott, Caolan Crowe; Danny Kirby, Aidan Walsh (0-6); Andrew Farrell, Darren Coen (0-1), Fergal Durkan; Daryl Herbert, Cillian O'Connor (2-0), Alex Corduff (0-1). Subs: Ian Costello, Jack McDonnell, John Carney (0-1), Michael McCormack

Not a bad return.

Hard to know with current crop. We might get a couple of seniors.
Stephen Coen looks the most likely. I think Hall and Plunkett maybe if they get the size.
Cunniffe and Cian Hanley have another year at minor and both looked very good already this year.

Eh? From a Mayo perspective no stone should be left unturned trying to develop Conroy (probably the most complete of the three FFs), Doherty (who is like a blinkered horse with the ball in hand, but obviously a very talented scorer) and Irwin who has the size and ability to develop into a senior. The other lads baring maybe Hanley would be coming into positions with good depth already.

I m not following you??

Mayo need FFs, not backs. A wing-forward like Hanley would be nice, but secondary to a lad like Conroy in terms of importance. Lads like Hall and Coen may make the cut but they're not at positions where Mayo are crying out for help or even depth. I think Mayo's forwards carried a team that routinely was poor in the middle and a little stand-offish at back. They are where the big potential lies in this Mayo team so it was bizarre you wouldn't mention any of the FFs.

That Irish Times article is probably the poorest piece of GAA  journalism I have ever seen, and that is saying something.
Gavin Cummiskey should be ashamed of himself.
If some of the windup merchants on a forum like this had written it it could have been laughed off. Seriously disrespectful to Mayo as well as Tyrone. Mayo minors were excellent on Sunday and deserved their win.
Tyrone have overachieved with a young team and still could have won the game on Sunday with a bit of luck and a few breaks going their way.
Both teams deserve credit rather than having this rubbish published in a national newspaper.
This years minor final was a much better game in terms of both entertainment and quality of football than the really poor, negative, boring minor final served up last year by Dublin and Meath. I nearly fell asleep in Croke Park during it. I can't remember any outcry after that game?
The media campaign against Tyrone has gone too far now and needs to stop.

Trying to call other minor teams negative after Tyrone's antics this year is a little too rich for human blood. The Kildare robots might be able to handle it, though.

FIFA 14 free on the play store from today.

Thx Laoisbeast.

Looks a good update on last year's mobile edition too. Don't think Ultimate Team was on it either? That'll be a big micro-transaction spinner for EA.

From Armagh

Happy to support any ulster county bar Down. Its their arrogance that I struggle with. Tyrone we love to beat but at same time will support them when they are playing a non ulster county. Out of all the other counties the only ones that I really had a bad experience with was Laois. Go home british b**tards etc in the 1994 league final. Same thing again in 03 1/4 final. Some of the best fans I have met were the Dubs, great craic and get a bad press for some reason.

I forgot about Laois.  The 2005 All Ireland Quarter Final is long forgotten because it was such a one sided game.  Basicly Armagh (at their peak) absolutely just stuffed Laois.  It was like boys against men.  At no point in the game was it even close, and Armagh who were famed at that time for hard hitting football never really had to up the ante.

This description of the match and circumstances makes the atmosphere at the game all the more remarkable.  The Laois fans were horrible, bitter, and aggressive.  They were foul mouthed and partitionist.  I've never seen the like of it before or since.

Had one fella giving out to my (at the time) 6 year old nephew outside the hoganstand bar saying f**k off back to Britain. Seems to be a thing with them. Anyway you cant let yourself be dragged down to the their level. On a more positive note best fans I think are Roscommon. The craic out of them is deadly. Plus it helps I have some friends from the disputed territory of Ballagh and the one sided town of Loughlynn. Cork fans I like for their stoutness, its like defeat is not an option but can take it when it doesn't work out for them.
Mayo I feel for. Jesus what is it gonna take.

If you have friends from Ballagh then you have friends from Mayo.

No Ballagh is inside the Roscommon border is it not ?

Mayo, the GAA and Ballagh true natives to not recognise this British imposed occupation.

If it wasn't for the British would we even have counties? When I was in Ballagh last it felt Rossie to me anyway and the locals up in Bolands in ferrymount defo felt that way. By the way that is one of the wildest spots I ever set foot in. Some craic.

Fairymount! I got confirmed there.

In the church, not the pub. That was afterwards.

Shane O'Neill or Steven O'Neill? It would explain his form this season.