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#121
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
March 03, 2021, 12:30:17 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 03, 2021, 11:51:13 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 03, 2021, 10:34:09 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 02, 2021, 11:09:47 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 02, 2021, 10:29:48 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 02, 2021, 10:06:51 PM
Yet the Munster championship remains a 2 horse race at best. Still Tipperary won it this year so that makes it all ok. So what if it's first time in nearly 30 years Cork or Kerry didn't win it. Important to only worry about the Leinster Championship.

The sooner people realise the days of basing the football championship on a ludicrous and unfair provincial basis the better

5 out of the 6 counties in Munster are primarily hurling counties. This will never change. Four of them don't care if Dublin win the next 20 All Irelands. They have to comfort of being the Elite teams in the AI hurling Championship. The Leinster counties bar Wexford don't have that back-up.

I suppose that's one option, just don't bother trying.

What about Leitrim and Sligo who have to play in the connacht championship just to get hammered by Mayo/Galway. Should they just focus on hurling and forget about winning anything in football as well?
Ah, I'm a bit confused here... ;D ;D
Maybe it's the prolonged effects of lockdown and the closure of me local but it seems we do have a football emergency on our hands.
Fair enough, I thought that has come about because one county, Dubin, has dominated  all others for the best part of a decade and the odds are that with every passing year, the rest will fall further behind.
At least, that's what I thought..
But there seems to be a solution to the crisis - according to some Dublin heads anyway. As they see it, for the good of the game in Leitrim, Mayo should be carved up to give the poor unfortunate people of the county with the smallest population in the land, a fighting chance of winning a game whenever they meet.
Now here is where my grey cells founder a bit..
In my innocence, I thought Dublin was the problem. With a third of the country's population and with games development funding that's more than all the other 31 counties get, I'd have thought something should be done to redress the imbalance ASAP.
But, according to the said Dublin heads, Mayo, Dublin's only credible opponent for most of the past decade should be carved up instead!
This will give Leitrim a chance and this in turn will solve all problems for everyone.
At least, that's what I think is being suggested.
Yeah, but what will happen if Leitrim does beat Mayo and are then drawn against Dublin in the next round?
Am I missing something?

Well if we have to split dublin to give the likes of Mayo a chance to win the All Ireland (granted they'll still find a way to self destruct or shoot themselves in the foot) then should we not split Mayo and Galway to give Leitrim and Sligo a chance to win a provincal title?

good point sell made, what made up repsonse will come  :D same with Cork and Kerry, oh but Tipp, wont happen again another couple the decades .
#122
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
March 03, 2021, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on March 01, 2021, 03:11:52 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 28, 2021, 11:19:58 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 28, 2021, 10:48:46 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on February 28, 2021, 10:09:15 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 28, 2021, 09:14:45 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 28, 2021, 08:48:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 28, 2021, 04:26:57 PM
Quote from: macker15 on February 28, 2021, 03:30:54 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 28, 2021, 12:58:56 PM
There's hardly going to be a link to a quiet word in a corridor ;)

Have you evidence of this? Thought not 🤣🤣🤣

Are you saying that all Dublin home games in the Leinster Championship and the extra home game in the super 8 are all a coincidence.

Is it that Dublin are picked first out of the hat when the draw is made and get home venue?

Or are County boards promised extra revenue for letting Dublin have home games?
The stats support the 'facts'.
From 1993 to 2016, Dublin played one game away v Longford and scrambled a 2 point win.
The Leinster draw is GAAmandered.
It was the other Leinster counties who voted to have Dublin play in Croke Park for two decades

So blame them

I think that's the point.  Why would they have voted for something that gives their own county a competitive disadvantage?
Because they wanted to maximise the money the Dublin team could bring in order to benefit their own counties at grass roots level

So there we have it. The Dublin money power buys all the advantages year in year out. Weaker counties who have no hope of success are better served to take the money for their county. Where they play Dublin makes no difference. They'll lose anyway.

The whole thing is really funny at this stage. Thank god I don't waste my time and money going to inter-county matches anymore. Can't think of a monopoly like this in any other sport? And more and more will vote the same as time goes on as there are virtually no challengers to Dublin in inter-county presently.

Really?

Lets start with wendyball

https://www.balls.ie/football/these-are-the-longest-title-winning-runs-in-european-football-460327

Cork Ladies, Crossmaglen, St Vincents, Kilkenny (11 in 15 years) loads of other examples.
#123
GAA Discussion / Re: Football All Stars 2019
February 23, 2021, 08:05:38 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 22, 2021, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 22, 2021, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 21, 2021, 06:24:03 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 21, 2021, 06:19:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 21, 2021, 06:01:22 PM
RTÉ

Making his debut in 2015, Fenton has now won six All-Ireland titles and has yet to taste defeat in the championship.

Hes a superb player and fully deserved the poty award.
He is but 6 in a row is a joke

Well.done to Cavan on getting 3 all stars

To you. 6 in a rows has been done at club level and other IC.

Fenton, Rolls Royce, the jewel in the crown.
5 in a row was never done at intercounty before Gavin.
Who cares how many in a row the Dubs win now ? It's all a joke.

Only to some.

Its a waiting game for most, when will it end...

Dublin, for eternity will always be there or there abouts from now on.
#124
GAA Discussion / Re: Football All Stars 2019
February 22, 2021, 11:14:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2021, 10:55:32 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 22, 2021, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 21, 2021, 06:24:03 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 21, 2021, 06:19:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 21, 2021, 06:01:22 PM
RTÉ

Making his debut in 2015, Fenton has now won six All-Ireland titles and has yet to taste defeat in the championship.

Hes a superb player and fully deserved the poty award.
He is but 6 in a row is a joke

Well.done to Cavan on getting 3 all stars

To you. 6 in a rows has been done at club level and other IC.

Fenton, Rolls Royce, the jewel in the crown.

He's very good and managed to change his approach in the final in the second half to power Dublin through, could have easily been replaced given the talent Dublin have in the second half but proved his worth

You cant just replace Fenton, on his bad days hes good. Closest to him as a midlfielder is Howard.
#125
GAA Discussion / Re: Football All Stars 2019
February 22, 2021, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 21, 2021, 06:24:03 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 21, 2021, 06:19:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 21, 2021, 06:01:22 PM
RTÉ

Making his debut in 2015, Fenton has now won six All-Ireland titles and has yet to taste defeat in the championship.

Hes a superb player and fully deserved the poty award.
He is but 6 in a row is a joke

Well.done to Cavan on getting 3 all stars

To you. 6 in a rows has been done at club level and other IC.

Fenton, Rolls Royce, the jewel in the crown.

#126
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
February 22, 2021, 09:43:59 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on February 19, 2021, 10:53:57 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 19, 2021, 03:37:10 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 19, 2021, 09:44:16 AM
Officialdom still on message ::)

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/dont-cut-dublin-funding-county-boards-overwhelmingly-have-their-say-in-our-exclusive-survey-40108113.html

:D

What's the begrudgers thoughts on this?

Anyone how here put any motions through their club to their country chairman about the issues you have all raised in this thread?
Do you remember the China Syndrome,the film about a nuclear reactor that overheated and threatened to burn down through the ground and surface in China?
WE got something similar or hands now as the headless chickens, aka the Croke Park mandarins, realise too late that the monster they created is overheating and is out of control.
Dublin has to be propped up and, allowing for enhanced sponsorship potential and the many clubs with large membership dues, it hasn't the grassroots support to be viable.
The future of  the Gah in Leitrim is more secure than it is in Dublin. Mayo may never win another All Ireland but as long as Knockmore lock horns with the Stephenites or Breaffy and Castlebar knock the shite outa each other, the GAA will remain the opium of the people throughout the county. 
In Dublin I'd wager that more than 50% of the population has no idea what the All Ireland Championship is, never mind who or what are the reigning champions.
All those in the inner circle may bury their heads in the sand but harsh reality will inevitably give them a right good kick up the hole.

I have always said on here, the Inter County Senior football championship is not the whole GAA, Its a cog in the wheel. GAA is club and more so outside of Dublin.
#127
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
February 22, 2021, 09:40:53 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on February 19, 2021, 07:31:32 PM
they dont want to rock the boat and piss off the boys in croke park because they're dependent on the monies that croke park grant them.

Not true, they will get their money, Has anyone on here, put a motion through their clubs to do anything about all the issues you all raise here?

#128
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
February 19, 2021, 03:37:10 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 19, 2021, 09:44:16 AM
Officialdom still on message ::)

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/dont-cut-dublin-funding-county-boards-overwhelmingly-have-their-say-in-our-exclusive-survey-40108113.html

:D

What's the begrudgers thoughts on this?

Anyone how here put any motions through their club to their country chairman about the issues you have all raised in this thread?
#129
GAA Discussion / Re: GAA finances and Amazon Prime
February 19, 2021, 03:33:22 PM
A bit off topic, why dont they have or use the background crowd noise for the soccer matches? Is it cost or what?
#130
GAA Discussion / Re: GAA finances and Amazon Prime
February 19, 2021, 07:11:39 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 18, 2021, 07:25:56 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 18, 2021, 03:46:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 18, 2021, 03:38:59 PM
Dublin 4 rugger types who have no interest in "Gah, bogball or stickball"

Yep.

Ryle Nugent was head of sport for years, wanted to promote the " team of us" " Irelands main sport" to his friends and ilk. Now its a guy from Monaghan who has a GAA background and played it but you have to get by these guys first:

https://about.rte.ie/inside-rte/rte-executive-board/

You also have Simon Coveneys brother on the board.

I think all sports are pissed off with RTE. There is no rugby on RTE of any description so thats not it

True, Nugent was there for years though and his focus was Rugby, that has changed now tbf. Anyway point still stands. Its a clique and near enough family style business.

As for rugby, Women's, team of shes...
#131
GAA Discussion / Re: GAA finances and Amazon Prime
February 18, 2021, 03:46:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 18, 2021, 03:38:59 PM
Dublin 4 rugger types who have no interest in "Gah, bogball or stickball"

Yep.

Ryle Nugent was head of sport for years, wanted to promote the " team of us" " Irelands main sport" to his friends and ilk. Now its a guy from Monaghan who has a GAA background and played it but you have to get by these guys first:

https://about.rte.ie/inside-rte/rte-executive-board/

You also have Simon Coveneys brother on the board.
#132
GAA Discussion / GAA finances and Amazon Prime
February 17, 2021, 12:00:21 PM
Referring to recent comments by Peter McKenna, GAA Commercial director.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-reveal-34m-loss-in-2020-following-worst-financial-year-in-association-history-40098230.html

I would say the same this year, i would say that another year or two of no gate receipts will be harmful.


https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-name-amazon-prime-among-new-players-in-mix-to-screen-games-as-34m-losses-revealed-40101115.html 

Potentially, we will need subscriptions to Sky Sport, EIR and Amazon Prime to watch games . . . . .
#133
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
February 15, 2021, 04:14:15 PM
Not to go over old ground, a lot of good points made above, but the development money is not just per head registered club player.
#134
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
February 09, 2021, 11:46:43 AM
Quote from: five points on February 09, 2021, 11:15:17 AM
Dublin hurling has already been split though, albeit for leagues.

Yeah Dublin Fingal, didnt work out.

Questions still there for you all to answer.
#135
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
February 09, 2021, 11:10:59 AM
Sorry, if it is your opinion and others that the greatest problem facing the GAA today is the Dublin senior football team only and because they are winning and dominating (remains to be seen what happens over the next few years) and the  solution offered is to split them in 4 (county council areas), what you would also be creating and diminishing and punishing is Dublin hurling who are just about competing at senior level and miles away from an all Ireland, splitting them in 4 you will end up with 3 teams probably competing in division 3 and 4 and maybe south Dublin might scrape 1.B or 2. Even a 2 way split would be decremental.

Based on the above point, Should Dublin be allowed to compete for an All Ireland Hurling championship as a whole county? Should the Hurling players be punished for the success of the Footballers? is the Senior Hurling championship a better place with Dublin in it considering that a lot of counties are only interested in Football and in some counties couldn't care less about it, do nothing to promote it and look down there noses at it?