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GAA Discussion / Re: Ros away to Dublin 20th July 2019
« on: July 19, 2019, 11:50:00 AM »
Does Connolly see any game time tomorrow night?
He was pulled from club duties on Wednesday, so at least has a chance.

Dublin's forward subs the last day were:
Andrews, Kev Mac, O'Gara, Rock, P Small

We know Brogan is training away but can't get into the 26.

I would think that O'Gara's position would be the one that Connolly could grab. If things weren't going to plan and we needed a big man in at 14 for the last 10 minutes, then Connolly is just as good in the air as O'Gara, but has the benefit of being able to use it a helluva lot better. Plus Connolly is obviously a option elsewhere also.

Gavin made wholesale changes for the Roscommon game last year (when it was last of the 3). He'll definitely do it again, especially as we'll likely be the only team with the 6 day turnaround again for the semi-final.  So it may be Tyrone before Connolly gets a run, although there's a chance that Gavin could mix things up over 2 games this year, rather than making all the changes in Game 3.

Sure the dubs don't work. They plenty time to rest. Probably in training camp as we speak

 :D






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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: July 02, 2019, 09:37:52 AM »
Here's the promised graph:





Fantastic graph, i have to say well done, you must have a doctorate in graphic design or something.

Quick question, if the development funding started in 2005 and the beneficiaries of that funding were mainly 5-12 years olds in schools, would in not be more beneficiall to start record it from 2011? unfair on Pillars team of the noughties.

I also believe this guy and Kerry for sam are the same individuals, and the same as a person knocking around these forums a while back, name escapes me.

Can you include in the graph the 70s and 80s also? and the ealry 90s, couple of barron years there for sure, but every great football team as barron periods, included the Kerry team of the 90s.

Although i know your a WUM, but your understanding of sport and sporting history is quite poor?


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GAA Discussion / Re: Attendances
« on: July 02, 2019, 09:26:31 AM »
Population argument a non runner my friend.

Of course...

I'm sure your advocating removing all club finals from Croke Park now that they are extremely poorly attended.  ::)

Not sure about that, i have been lucky to see my club win the club twice in the last few years there, a great day out.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Attendances
« on: July 02, 2019, 09:25:23 AM »
20,116 in Castlebar yesterday.
The official attendance was 18,711.

Extremely poor attendance, where has the great Mayo support gone? Sure they even had T.Ds complaining in the Dail for people who couldnt get tickets for the All Ireland Final.

They can make themselves look good travelling, why is that, the day trip event junkie, the glamour of the away tie...

Its an interesting one.

Féile was on.
Every part time farmer working round the clock to get silage & bog sorted in the good weather.

If 15k Mayos there that's 11.5% of population.

If 40k Dubs at Leinster final out of 1,350,000 population....represents less than 3% bothering.

There are not 1.35 Million Dublin fans, just like there isnt 1.35 Million male GAA players between the ages of 18-32 who play senior club football and are good at football. Population argument a non runner my friend. Just like there isnt 550K Cork football fans or 620K Antrim hurling fans.
Cork and Antrim never had a big support in my lifetime. Dublin had.

Mayo don't have 130,000 football supporters either but have a proportionally bigger support than Dublin. You commenting on an "extremely poor" Mayo support last Saturday is quite amusing.

130k living in the county, most of them are in Dublin, something i have noticed over the last few years when they came out of the woodwork for the all ireland finals.

iv mentioned it before, Dublin footballs hardcore support is 20-25K. 25-35K with the casuals and up with the blow ins. Its a minority.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Attendances
« on: July 01, 2019, 04:40:18 PM »
20,116 in Castlebar yesterday.
The official attendance was 18,711.

Extremely poor attendance, where has the great Mayo support gone? Sure they even had T.Ds complaining in the Dail for people who couldnt get tickets for the All Ireland Final.

They can make themselves look good travelling, why is that, the day trip event junkie, the glamour of the away tie...

Its an interesting one.

Féile was on.
Every part time farmer working round the clock to get silage & bog sorted in the good weather.

If 15k Mayos there that's 11.5% of population.

If 40k Dubs at Leinster final out of 1,350,000 population....represents less than 3% bothering.

There are not 1.35 Million Dublin fans, just like there isnt 1.35 Million male GAA players between the ages of 18-32 who play senior club football and are good at football. Population argument a non runner my friend. Just like there isnt 550K Cork football fans or 620K Antrim hurling fans.



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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: July 01, 2019, 04:35:29 PM »
The games up. This is now all over the media and on the terraces. For years it was silenced but now it's common knowledge. Dublin have doped their way to a huge number of titles since 2005. The counts up to 55 titles I believe. There's an asterisk beside every single one of these titles. Everyone knows it, even the Dubs. It really was a dark period in the history of the GAA. It's coming to an end though. The split is very near.
poor snowflake.

You would swear the Dubs broke up an equal field where Longford, Sligo and Antrim were pushing for national titles. 25 counties have always been rubbish at any given time. Its an odd coincidence that the rest of Leinster independently went through a phase of being cat at the same time Dublin pushed on. Not our fault.

The idea that there has been suppression of talk about Dublins funding is laughable.

The 55 titles include hurling and underage. You're clueless. Which one are you going to follow? Fingal, Dún Laoghaire/Rathdown, South Dublin or Dublin city centre?

We (Dublin) only measure success on winning All Irelands, not provincials.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Attendances
« on: July 01, 2019, 01:53:00 PM »
Leinster Football Final:  47,027

Ulster Football Final: 28,780

Munster Football Final: 18,265

Appalling attendance for a Munster final. Must be one of the lowest ever.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Attendances
« on: July 01, 2019, 01:51:27 PM »
20,116 in Castlebar yesterday.
The official attendance was 18,711.

Extremely poor attendance, where has the great Mayo support gone? Sure they even had T.Ds complaining in the Dail for people who couldnt get tickets for the All Ireland Final.

They can make themselves look good travelling, why is that, the day trip event junkie, the glamour of the away tie...

Its an interesting one.


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GAA Discussion / Re: split the dubs in 4
« on: June 28, 2019, 03:58:15 PM »
Largest participated field sport in Dublin anyone?

Il give you a hint, only the goalkeeper can handle the ball. . . . . .

In my opionion, in large parts of the city and county, its a battle for hearts and minds.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: June 27, 2019, 09:07:54 AM »

Given that the spread of jobs and population is not going to happen, why not try the split, even for a few years?

As blewuporstuffed says, what happens when the effects of the funding DOES kick in?

The likelihood is that Dublin will continue to win most, if not all, All Irelands for the next five years, at minimum. When does it become a problem?

At least with Kerry and Kilkenny and their periods of dominance, those extreme population and logistical advantages that Dublin have were not a factor. There was always going to be a period where they dropped back into the pack.

Yep, nobody wants a routine All Irelands where 30 counties think they’ve no chance.

I wrote a post earlier this week, saying that I’d have no problem if the split of Dublin was looked into. So long as at the sametime, there was also looked into the alternative of the merger of counties, so we’d have maybe 12 counties or merged counties in the championship. And people could analyze the two proposals and vote accordingly.

The benefit of the latter being that every player in every county would have a realistic ambition of playing in an All Ireland final. The splitting of Dublin wouldn’t do anything to the 15-20 counties that would still have absolutely no chance of All Ireland success, even in their children’s lifetime. And I’d say it’s closer to 25.

1. Traitor, 2. 100% correct, splitting Dublin will only benefit the big counties/Elite team, swap Dublin dominance for Kerry Dominance.

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Just a small point, 17 pages on the Dubln V Meath thread, 2 pages on this, a lot better game, more action, Kerry nearly beaten etc, it tells us about the interest in Dublin.

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Some amount of Dub bashing all over the press since yesterday, it’s become a bit embarrassing to be honest and I say that as a non Dub. It’s aimed at taking away from what is an exceptional group of players who come along once in a lifetime. The Dubs will always be competitive due to sheer numbers alone and I think most people would think it only right that money be spread equitably across all counties but the timing of the drip drip media articles in a season when they are going for 5 in a row is no coincidence. Media hacks and ex players playing the populist card.

To be fair Dublin players and fans have been the pawns in all of this! Not that they are complaining. Why would they? What annoys most is their total denial that funds have helped them prosper. And there is a must try harder for the rest of us. But don't expect financial help.

Not at all, Money is a key component but its mutiple factors that contribute to the success of this team and stated above and forever and ever, the grant money recieved, which is peoples main argument, none of the current squad benefited from that money.

Dublin have advantages absolutley, some have always been there, some are new.

Also, Gents, you cant be taking KerryforSam for real, he/she is on the wind up, best ignored.

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One in Croker ( Not Dublin) and one in Cork.

I think the bigger issue here is Dublin playing 2 super 8 games in Croker, the first 2, meaning the last away game could be dead rubber for them, depending on results and who makes its through to the group obviosuly.

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GAA Discussion / Re: We need to talk about Diarmuid
« on: June 25, 2019, 10:50:13 AM »
He retired 2 years ago, best of luck to him.

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Well done Dublin, another historical milestone, a great performance in terrible conditions and did it with honour abnd pride in the competion. Meath good in parts except for their shooting and final third play. good tackling and hard hits was done well for the majority of the game. I never get tired of winning and beating our closest neighbour and rival. Hoping for 10 in a row next year.

Stephen Cluxton is third in the most Leinster wins with 15, just behind Meath.

Great attendance of just under 50K. Majority Dublin fans.  I would say 80/20. A shockingly bad day with heavey rain.

Biggest concern is the injury to James McCarthy, irreplaceable.

Meath were doing quite well before he went off, so not exactly irreplaceable.

Thtas true but what i meant was to the Dublin team and the rest of the championship, he is a driving force behind this team.

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