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@Priceyreilly

In answer to your question,

Hard work by thousands of volunteers, good coaching structures put in place, a long term plan by visionaries, more of the population playing GAA , at underage anyway, a good recruitment drive from clubs, clubs bettering themselves with structures and facilities,  Good corporate governance, good club Community spirit, historical competing and in regards specifically to the senior footballers, Jim Gavin and the structures and mindset he put in place along with some of the naturally gifted footballers the country has produced and some of the hardworking group of footballers every produced in the country.

There you go, have a great day.

 ;D We have an answer!!! One that can be ripped apart but an answer at least. Here we go:

Hard work by thousands of volunteers - Every county has hard working volunteers
good coaching structures put in place - Highly financed coaching structures. Paid regional development officers overseeing the work by paid coaches under elite pathway programs
a long term plan by visionaries - A plan devised by the GAA Review Committee and impossible without Bertie support
more of the population playing GAA - Dublin have always had more population playing GAA
at underage anyway - Underage and senior
a good recruitment drive from clubs - This was apart of the plan overseen by the highly paid officers
clubs bettering themselves with structures and facilities - Again, the money provided paid coaches which pushed this
Good corporate governance - The increased success off the back of the financial doping attracted numerous new sponsors worth millions more
good club Community spirit - Same in every county
historical competing and in regards specifically to the senior footballers - Senior footballers moved from a top 8 team to unbeatable, hurlers went from minnows to provincial champions and All Ireland contenders, underage results went from hopeless to dominant, again all bought
Jim Gavin and the structures and mindset he put in place along with some of the naturally gifted footballers the country has produced and some of the hardworking group of footballers every produced in the country - Gaelic Games first professional team! Players created through the multi million euro development system and then coached and prepared by an extensive backroom team consisting of some highly paid coaches. 

So fair play for actually attempting an answer but unfortunately for you, I just batted it out of the park.  :)

Alternative Universe response and not worth a reply. Enjoy your ignorance.






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GAA Discussion / Re: Why are Posters obsessed about Dublin GAA??
« on: September 20, 2018, 02:49:53 PM »
The usual troll accounts out in full force I see. Then sad part is seperating the shallow, one note WUM accounts from the actual opinion of the average Dublin supporter has become less and less obvious as the years have went by.

I agree, I think GAA-Board should start banning some of the anti Dub brigade WUM's.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Why are Posters obsessed about Dublin GAA??
« on: September 20, 2018, 02:47:31 PM »
Would only question one phrase there TheGreatest , " some of the naturally gifted footballers the country"  They are highly trained in Gavins system, but I really think if most counties had the same "opportunities", time ,etc, they may do the same.  There may be more " naturally gifted footballers" in other counties --and no I'm not anti-Dub ......( runs for cover )

Maybe.

Connolly and Fenton would be natural.

Cluxton had to work hard and mastered it over a very long playing career.

I don't think Jack Mc Pace can be coached?

Etc.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Why are Posters obsessed about Dublin GAA??
« on: September 20, 2018, 02:11:09 PM »
@Priceyreilly

In answer to your question,

Hard work by thousands of volunteers, good coaching structures put in place, a long term plan by visionaries, more of the population playing GAA , at underage anyway, a good recruitment drive from clubs, clubs bettering themselves with structures and facilities,  Good corporate governance, good club Community spirit, historical competing and in regards specifically to the senior footballers, Jim Gavin and the structures and mindset he put in place along with some of the naturally gifted footballers the country has produced and some of the hardworking group of footballers every produced in the country.

There you go, have a great day. 


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GAA Discussion / Re: Why are Posters obsessed about Dublin GAA??
« on: September 20, 2018, 09:22:13 AM »
Because hard work and talent has nothing to do with it

54 titles since 2005 in all grades and levels. 14 in the previous 13 years. And it just so happened that the enormous funding disparity begun 13 years ago. Some sort of freak coincidence or instringently linked? Let's get real here. It's all bought. I haven't even added in the club titles for clubs in Dublin, it's gone up from 4 to 17 in the past 13 years compared to the 13 before.
I'd like a good laugh so can anyone come up with a reasonable explanation for the huge increase in titles since 2005 which coincided with the huge increase in funding for Dublin GAA?

So you think hard work and talent have no bearing on this at all? And cut the bought titles shite will ye

Wasting your breath on these guys Tonto, multiple threads on the Dubs, they are more obsessed with Dublin than their own team or clubs.

I stated before, people always hated the Dubs, now its gone up 10 fold since the senior footballers have  a good team, which is only a small part of Dublin GAA.

Could you imagine if or when the  Hurlers win an All Ireland, there will be marches through the streets, or fields in some cases.

Long may it continue.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: September 19, 2018, 12:58:37 PM »
It's the recent All Ireland final losses by a point each time that is annoying me. And the 'let's-all-belittle-Mayo' element of their support base which annoys me so much, and there's a good lot out there.
As without doubt the biggest rivals of the Dublin team, of course the fans are going to take the most joy out of beating our biggest rivals. We've two very painful defeats in recent memory also to add to that and plenty say they have memories of Mayo fans shoving it to them in the aftermath of those games. (Not me, I might add).

But "belittling" is nonsense in my opinion. Plenty of other fans from other counties seem to take great joy in belittling Mayo's achievements when they lose a final but Dubs fans know exactly how good Mayo have been in recent years.

Oh, spare us all the magnanimous winners nonsense. Dublin GAA executed a coordinated hit job on Lee Keegan before one of those finals ffs.

A couple of pundits is Dublin GAA.

Swings and rounds..... Horan 2012 springs to mind.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
« on: September 19, 2018, 12:54:18 PM »
Horan nominated .

Hopefully so.....

 :D

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GAA Discussion / Re: Time to Split Dublin
« on: September 19, 2018, 11:23:29 AM »
A couple of questions - what’s a “normal” county and are you saying that the likes of Kerry, Mayo, Tyrone etc will never be able to compete with Dublin again?

A normal county is one within striking distance of the average population and where football is fairly popular, rather than only hurling.
Some of these counties will compete with Dublin some years, but that doesn't change the unfairness of the situation.

If you’re a county that can compete then compete. Otherwise amalgamate.

100%, talks of slitting teams up because of success is cheap talk, loser talk, defeatist. Sligo, Leitrim could be a good example and could work.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Why are Posters obsessed about Dublin GAA??
« on: September 19, 2018, 11:21:13 AM »
Well let's see this table.

Thats one serious injustice you habe taken on considering you could be putting all your energy into tackling something trivial like homelessness in the country

This is the biggest issue in Gaelic Games. We can't have one county continuing to compete at a professional level while the sport is amatuer. Because it's obvious what will happen and we see it already. The only way to keep up with a professional outfit is to become professional yourself, to invest as much as they do. That will mean that only counties with money can compete. This will kill Gaelic Games in many counties. We see it with the increased calls for a B championship. This isn't what the GAA is about. We need to claim our games back.
The establishment are all about money and are neglecting the games in many counties. This can't continue and we can't let one counties greed get in the way. The monster must be slain. Once this is done we can look at repairing Gaelic Games.

Oh and here's the 54 titles, it's a comparison of the 13 years post funding to the 13 years pre funding.:





Thank you for that table, makes great viewing, well done Dublin, put the work in and paying dividends, long may it continue.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Why are Posters obsessed about Dublin GAA??
« on: September 13, 2018, 09:07:07 AM »
Because they are winning.

People always sneered and hated the Dubs, its just gone up a notch now since the winning.

I enjoy it and prefer not to be liked. Makes winning and wiping the floor with teams all that sweater.

I don't think you fully understand the problem.  Unless something changes, you won't have any teams to wipe the floor with.  You are killing the goose, so-to-speak.  And that affects everyone, including the Dubs. 

2040 AIF - Dublin beat Kerry by thirteen points in front of 11,500 in Parnell Park to complete the 26 in a row.  (Croke Park was unavailable due to the One Direction revival concert)  David Clifford's son retires after the game, aged 22, declaring that he has signed a professional contract with current LoI champions Glentoran.  FM104 carry a full match report but it's a bit-part story on RTE Sport.  There are extended highlights on TG4 at 11.45pm though.  Incidentally, their hurlers have just won their third in a row, and eighth in the past ten years, having beaten Limerick in a dour affair in a dilapidated Thurles. *

*This may be a bit far fetched, but hopefully you get the point.

Id take that.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Why are Posters obsessed about Dublin GAA??
« on: September 13, 2018, 07:53:19 AM »
Because they are winning.

People always sneered and hated the Dubs, its just gone up a notch now since the winning.

I enjoy it and prefer not to be liked. Makes winning and wiping the floor with teams all that sweater.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Why are Posters obsessed about Dublin GAA??
« on: September 12, 2018, 04:58:04 PM »
 ;)  ;D


Hilarious.

That reminds me, I need open the Kerry 5 in a row at minor ruining gaelic games thread

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: September 12, 2018, 02:37:55 PM »
This is a bit of a narrative destroyer.

Given some of the stuff we've heard from Ewan and Parky etc. over the last while, one would surely have expected Dublin to be way out in front at the top of this list, but they aren't even top of it.

Remember much of Dublin's spending goes on hurling too, whereas several counties near the top of this list pay no more than lip sevice to whichever is the weaker game in their county.




This is pure dross in the context of these numbers being totally cooked in many cases given the salaries of management team members are not included among many other types of under the table payments and inducements and freebies, let alone the fact most counties outside of Dublin pay exorbitant mileage expenses just to assemble their panel for training.

Nevermind the fact that to believe your line you have to assume that the millions upon millions of grant money to Dublin did not benefit player and coach development in the county in any manner whatsoever. Since you have to then be of the opinion that money is an incredible waste in Dublin, why not give it to the rest and see what happens, eh?

Poor attempt, Sid. That exact same .jpg has been rubbished multiple times in this thread alone.

If other counties are cooking the books as you say, then their expenditure in this graph is being underestimated, which makes it look even worse for them and better for Dublin.

Trying to take one aspect (and out of context at that) because you know well my post rubbishes the ‘narrative destoryer’ that you billed that old .jpg as. My post stands well enough as is.
The fact is that the Dublin football team work harder than any other team in Ireland. Only Mayo come anywhere close.

Alan Brogan is 100% correct on this.

How do you know they don't, do you measure different categories in training and how many sessions and spare time used to practice etc. ! :) he said its a contributing factor, not the main factor, he's entitled to his opinion and expert opinions of being involved under 4 different managements and teams including the current one.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: September 12, 2018, 02:36:04 PM »
I have seen that Graph before but nobody could answer this, is this per team (football) or both the Adult Male senior teams in Football and Hurling combined?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Attendances
« on: September 12, 2018, 01:56:06 PM »
SFC attendances
2016 -  947,000 (65 games)
Loss of Revenue € 2m ??
2017 - 973,000 (63)
2018 - c.850,000 (68 games)


2000 drop on average or 14% between 2016 and 2018. That will have them worried but we know one thing for sure that will be said it's not Dublin's fault. Other county supporters need to get their act together.

Show me the drop in attendances per county or county ground?

Dublin are on team out of 34 that play championship football annually.

The semi final happened before, 1995, only time will tell if its a once off occurrence and Mayo exiting early, in fairness to them bring large numbers everywhere, especially last year.

A lot less replays this year also but then you have the super 8s.

If you add the 30k absent from the semi final in football in which the Galway fans didn't attend, that's till only 880,000, a 90K drop elsewhere

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