The league is under way next weekend hopefully an improvement from our lot this year. This division has habit of underdogs getting promotion.
To lift the trophy (PP odds)
Meath 6/5
Monaghan 5/2
Roscommon 15/2
Sligo 15/2
Cavan 10/1
Antrim 11/1
Wicklow 18/1
Fermanagh 25/1
To be relegated
Fermanagh 4/7
Wicklow 4/5
Cavan 15/8
Antrim 15/8
Roscommon 5/2
Sligo 5/2
Monaghan 9/1
Meath 18/1
Antrim: vs Cavan (H), Sligo (A), Fermanagh (H), Wicklow (A), Roscommon (H), Meath (H), Monaghan (A)
Cavan: vs Antrim (A), Monaghan (H), Meath (A), Sligo (A), Fermanagh (H), Wicklow (A), Roscommon (H)
Fermanagh: vs Wicklow (A), Roscommon (H), Antrim (A), Monaghan (H), Cavan (A), Sligo (H), Meath (A)
Meath: vs Monaghan (A), Wicklow (A), Cavan (H), Roscommon (A), Sligo (H), Antrim (A), Fermanagh (H)
Monaghan: vs Meath (H), Cavan (A), Sligo (H), Fermanagh (A), Wicklow (H), Roscommon (A), Antrim (H)
Roscommon: vs Sligo (H), Fermanagh (A), Wicklow (H), Meath (H), Antrim (A), Monaghan (H), Cavan (A)
Sligo: vs Roscommon (A), Antrim (H), Monaghan (A), Cavan (H), Meath (A), Fermanagh (A), Wicklow (H)
Wicklow: vs Fermanagh (H), Meath (H), Roscommon (A), Antrim (H), Monaghan (A), Cavan (H), Sligo (A)
Literally any team could get hot and go on a run, even Wicklow or Fermanagh. If any panel is looking beyond their first fixture their promotion hopes could be up in smoke immediately.
For us we can very possibly have six points from our first three and if we do that confidence and momentum should get us a victory over at least one of Meath and Monaghan and that should bring us too close to the line not to be promoted when all's said. Two early losses and it'll be D3 football we're fighting for and not D2.
I would have been more confident before last night!
But anything less than promotion will be disappointing, given 2 successive relegations. We have as good a draw as possible - 4 home games and 2 of the away games in Enniskillen and Cavan - couldn't have asked for much better. The Meath game next Sunday should be a very good indication of how things will pan out - a win here would be a massive start.
Likewise for us - a win next Sunday is vital and we owe the Shliigos a NFL batin.
A loss and as even our eternal optimist admits we'll be fighting to stay up.
The last few years this has been the tightest of all the Divisions and despite Paddy Power it has all the appearances of being the same again this year.
Its a super tough div 3 this year. From a Cavan perspective I don't know what to expect. Its all about making a good start, if we can go to Belfast and win then who knows where we could go. Get bet in that game and we are really up against it.
"They seem quite optimistic to me, maybe they do want to fight ..."
Ah balls!
Just remembered we're in division 3. :(
Quote from: hardstation on January 27, 2013, 09:45:46 PM
Yip, hard to judge. A good start makes all the difference. It's been a right while since Cavan have beat us last. Hope we can take points in that with home advantage.
I'm worried about us this year. With Loughrey gone and Tomas McCann injured its hard to see where our goal chances will come from due to lack of penetration and genuine pace (although Niblock can punch holes).
Scores will be a problem though Ryan Murray may turn out to be the real deal, we'd need him to be and fast or Div 4 may beckon.
Good start vital
Fermanagh need to get off to a good start. We seem to have a very very defensive set up this year. The Seamus Quigley side show is gone this year. Whose going to get the scores in his place? If Canavan unearths somebody who can then we will stay up.
I cannot see us getting promoted tbh, is the Ross game in kiltoom or the Hyde? I've been presuming kiltoom. Will be tough to get anything either way. Not sure how we will react to yday horror show.
Everybody wants to get off to a good start :)
We (Monaghan) have previous form of getting off to a good start. I'd be confident that we can beat the Meath men, i.e. until that time the scoreboard/clock tells a different story.
Quote from: Gold on January 27, 2013, 09:55:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 27, 2013, 09:45:46 PM
Yip, hard to judge. A good start makes all the difference. It's been a right while since Cavan have beat us last. Hope we can take points in that with home advantage.
I'm worried about us this year. With Loughrey gone and Tomas McCann injured its hard to see where our goal chances will come from due to lack of penetration and genuine pace (although Niblock can punch holes).
Scores will be a problem though Ryan Murray may turn out to be the real deal, we'd need him to be and fast or Div 4 may beckon.
Good start vital
Yeah, Div 3 looks seriously competitive this year. I wouldn't expect us to be in the promotion mix.
There's nearly a whole division of teams who could take points of each other though I'd expect Monaghan to be the strongest then Meath / Roscommon.
Antrim have beat Cavan nearly every time they played over the last few years but Cavan are due to start getting better with all their u21 success. The first game is important so that'll be a tight one.
Sligo seem a bit hit and miss these days so hard to know what of them. There are some good footballers in Wicklow so they could be dangerous. Fermanagh I would say are an unknown at this kind of level. I'm not sure how strong they'd be as they lack forwards but have some good footballers no doubt.
It's a good test for Frank Dawson. I'd like to see much more positive football than under Baker but we'll see. We maybe don't have the forwards for that either.
Quote from: Jinxy on January 27, 2013, 09:54:02 PM
Ah balls!
Just remembered we're in division 3. :(
Let's just do this. OK?
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on January 28, 2013, 09:03:59 AM
is the Ross game in kiltoom or the Hyde? I've been presuming kiltoom.
Officially in the Hyde but with recent and forecasted weather I expect ye'll be heading to the home of Naomh Bríd .
Maybe we shoud play it on Friday then ( St Brigid's Day for info of the haythens among ye :D)
Where are Longford? How did they get out?
If they can do it, then we can.
Recent history of the NFL competition confirms the obvious, that a team with 4 home games will most likely top the table. The teams with 4 away games have an uphill task.
With this weather I hope to God there's no Kiltoom switch or half the crowd will die of drowning, Kiltoom is one of the most beautiful grounds in the country on a good day but the stand is tiny even for a club ground. Oh, and that stupidly tall fence on the stand side that obscures your view in the bottom two rows (of four) is a pain. If it's switched (which I still think is very unlikely) then best get there very early.
How come we don't have to go to Belfast? How did that happen????!!!!!
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 28, 2013, 02:38:57 PM
How come we don't have to go to Belfast? How did that happen????!!!!!
We let you off in case there was a fleg protest outside Casement Pk!
Quote from: Hardy on January 28, 2013, 11:45:32 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on January 27, 2013, 09:54:02 PM
Ah balls!
Just remembered we're in division 3. :(
Let's just do this. OK?
OK.
I'm not talking to any of the rest of them though.
ok lads. four draws i reckon.
Monaghan vs Meath - draw
Roscommon vs Sligo - Sligo
Wicklow vs Fermanagh - Fermanagh
Antrim vs Cavan - Cavan
Fecks sake, Meath in Division 3 :o
They must have gone into administration or something
Monaghan vs Meath - Monaghan
Roscommon vs Sligo - Roscommon
Wicklow vs Fermanagh - Wicklow
Antrim vs Cavan - Ah feck it...Antrim
Meath and Sligo will go up. Wicklow and Sheep for the drop
Rumour is they will be going to Kiltoom on Sunday anyway.
I expect this Sunday's game against Sligo to be a good indicator as to whether we'll be in contention for promotion this year. Hard to know from FBD form who'll be favourites but seeing as it's a home game for Roscommon it should(hopefully) swing it in our favour. Any word on Donal Shine's fitness and I'm guessing with this week's weather Kiltoom will be the likely venue.
Quote from: Itchy on January 29, 2013, 09:55:47 PM
Monaghan vs Meath - draw
Roscommon vs Sligo - Sligo
Wicklow vs Fermanagh - Fermanagh
Antrim vs Cavan - Cavan
Whatever about the first two, the second two are the wrong way around, IMO.
Already switched to Kiltoom. Evans is saying he'll give Shine every chance of being fit but after suffering two hamstring pulls in a week against GMIT and Mayo if he's not 100% it would be extremely dangerous playing him. I'd be happy to not see him on the teamsheet, to be honest.
Depending on the availability of Colin Compton and Cathal Shine we have plenty of options to fill in the full-forward role and Cathal Cregg could easily play that spot too. Long range frees would be the big worry, Donie Smith is a very good short range free-taker.
Now there's word the switch to Kiltoom hasn't been made and it was wrongly reported by Shannonside. This is a mess.
Hmm i wonder where Shannonside radio got that info? anyways only 4 teams named so far..
MEATH: Paddy O'Rourke; Donal Keoghan, Bryan Menton, Davy Dalton; Ciaran Lenihan, Eoghan Harrington, Stephen Crosby; Joe Sheridan, Conor Gillespie; Brian Meade, Damien Carroll, Jamie Queeney; Paddy Gilsenan, Peadar Byrne, Brian Farrell.
MONAGHAN: Mark Keogh; Colin Walshe, Fintan Kelly, Kieran Duffy; Martin McElroy, Darren Hughes, Dessie Mone; Owen Lennon, Dick Clerkin; Owen Duffy, Paul Finlay, Shane McQuillan; Kieran Hughes, Conor McManus, Dermot Malone.
ANTRIM: Chris Kerr; Kevin O'Boyle, Paul Doherty, Niall Delargy; Tony Scullion, Justin Crozier, John Carron; Michael McCann, Sean McVeigh; Conor Murray, Kevin Niblock, Brendan Herron; Michael Pollock, Michael Herron, Ryan Murray.
CAVAN: James Reilly; Oisin Minagh, Rory Dunne, Damien Barkey; Padraic O'Reilly, Alan Clarke, John McCutcheon; Gearoid McKiernan, David Givney; Cian Mackey, Martin Reilly, Damien O'Reilly; Mark McKeever, Martin Dunne, Niall McDermott.
Quote from: Syferus on February 02, 2013, 01:15:51 AM
Now there's word the switch to Kiltoom hasn't been made and it was wrongly reported by Shannonside. This is a mess.
ye rossies trying to confuse us so we dont turn up like in 2010 :o.
Even as we stand now, the mess that has occured will almost guarntee people going to wrong ground for sure. As i found out for u21s few yrs ago (was 5 mins late) Kiltoom is a fair distance from roscommon and with the walk included and getting parked if your late, therll be plenty of supporters late for this. Why couldnt they just be decisive and stick to it...
The main reason was the weather, there was heavy rain almost every day since before last weekend, he'll there was even hail last night. The board said in Thursday's paper the match was still on for the Hyde but that they'd review the pitch today and make a decision on whether to switch or not. Clearly they want to play it at the Hyde so they're giving it every chance of being ready.
I'd agree it'd have saved a lot of confusion to have just made the switch early in the week and stuck with it but word breaking of a switch on Thursday evening really made a hash of things. Kiltoom is well off the main Athlone road too so I fear for Sligo supporters actually finding it in the first place.
Confirmed for the hallowed ground of Dr. Hyde Park.
Best of luck to Meath . You wouldn't want to stay too long in D3.
Defend your house.
I know we can do it.
Another journey begins today - who knows where it leads?
Cavan 1-3 Antrim 0-4
Cavan 1-4 Antrim 0-6
Id like the roscommon supporters to shed some light on the penalty given? Fair play to ref won the game for them.
Cavan 1-5 Antrim 0-7 HT
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 03, 2013, 02:42:44 PM
Id like the roscommon supporters to shed some light on the penalty given? Fair play to ref won the game for them.
Clear push in the back on Cathal Shine by the Sligo full-back on a high ball. Ref has been terrible but Sligo have got the majority of the breaks and they have no one but themselves to blame for the goal.
Playing Donie and getting him injured yet again was one of the most motherf**king stupid things I've seen in years, he was clearly far from 100% and he's been injured in three games running now. No way on Earth he isn't shelved until Wicklow in March.
Quote from: Syferus on February 03, 2013, 02:50:38 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 03, 2013, 02:42:44 PM
Id like the roscommon supporters to shed some light on the penalty given? Fair play to ref won the game for them.
Clear push in the back on Cathal Shine by the Sligo full-back on a high ball. Ref has been terrible but Sligo have got the majority of the breaks and they have no one but themselves to blame for the goal.
Playing Donie and getting him injured yet again was one of the most motherf**king stupid things I've seen in years, he was clearly far from 100% and he's been injured in three games running now. No way on Earth he isn't shelved until Wicklow in March.
you are full of shit
Cavan 1-7 Antrim 0-7
about 10 gone in 2nd half, McKeever with goal
1-7 to 0-8 now
Cavan 1-7 Antrim 0-11
Cavan 1-7 Antrim 1-12
Peno for Cavan now!
Goal Martin Reilly Dunne
2-7 to 1-12
Monaghan 1-12
Meath 1-2
15 minutes left.
Oh God.
2-8 to 1-12 to Antrim
Quote from: Hardy on February 03, 2013, 03:17:39 PM
Monaghan 1-12
Meath 1-2
15 minutes left.
Oh God.
Bring back the Banty!
Monaghan 1-16
Meath 1-2
Eight minutes to the end of this thriller
2-8 to 1-14 in favour of Antrim, looks all over with only 2 mins left
Monaghan 1-18
Meath 2-3
Full time. A big comeback in the last two minutes.
Well lads, what do we think of Division 3 so far?
Antrim 1-14 Cavan 2-9.
Ref makes a ridiculous call at the end giving a free out to Antrim instead of a penalty to Cavan.
Very disappointing start.
Quote from: Hardy on February 03, 2013, 03:34:09 PM
Monaghan 1-18
Meath 2-3
Full time. A big comeback in the last two minutes.
Ah, you know yourself, Meath teams are never beaten! :P
At what point in our history, did we completely abandon the art of kicking points?
Quote from: Jinxy on February 03, 2013, 03:41:57 PM
At what point in our history, did we completely abandon the art of kicking points?
Some time on the evening of the 11th of July 2010! :'(
How soon should we abandon playing football, that's the question.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Not pretty but some encouraging displays. Fermanagh next week could be the pivotal tie of the first four if Meath are anywhere close to that bad.
Quote from: Itchy on February 03, 2013, 03:35:34 PM
Antrim 1-14 Cavan 2-9.
Ref makes a ridiculous call at the end giving a free out to Antrim instead of a penalty to Cavan.
Very disappointing start.
Couldn't see it from where I was in stand but ref and umpires agreed it was a dive.
Good to get off to winning start and full value for the win. Decent enough 1st half but the 2nd half was poor stuff only 7 scores and bucket load of wides kicked. Tricky assignment for us next Saturday night our last trip to Enniskillen will bring back some bad memories.
I made the trip up to Clones. Small enough Meath support there. Sign of where the team is going I think.
As for the game itself, Well and truly outplayed. We weren't prepared for Monaghan's blanket defence at all - the hopeless kicking into the FF line was pathetic, all the way from start to finish. Do we not do handpassing drills in training? Our support play seemed to fall apart once we got into Monaghan's half. Too many players seem to lose the ball in the tackle too - is this a sign of physical weakness?
Only positives: the captain Eoghan Harrington done well I thought. Good to see him back. Gillespie had a few good moments in centre field. The rest well I don't know what to say. We conceded a big score but the backs were facing wave after wave of attack. Lenehan and Dalton gave the ball away a lot and how many times was Joe blocked down? Talk about telegraphing his kicks. The Monaghan goal was embarrassing from a Meath point of view - two lads handpassing the ball between them the whole way up from their own '45. All the forwards were atricious too maybe a bit of credit to Queeney who picked up a few breaks and managed to get the goal after recieving the ball still with a bit of work to do. Surprised he was the first to go. The subs had no impact. Our day was summed up with around five minutes to go (Monaghan had eased up by now) when Tormey and Sheridan ran into each other going for a ball, then for a split second one left it for the other before running it each other again!! Eventually a cringing Monaghan defender cleared the ball.
Brilliant performance by Monaghan today - great displays in every line of the field. Difficult to pick out a few, but Kelly, Hughes, Clerkin, McAdam, Doogan and McManus had great games. McManus was deadly in full forward, but it was the hunger of the whole team that stood out - even when we were 14 points up, players were scrapping for every ball, winning posession from Meath time and time again.
There's no denying however, that Meath were woeful - half an hour without scoring at all. The 1-01 in the last couple of minutes made the score look a lot better than it might have, and the goal was fairly jammy - attempt at a point that fell under the crossbar - basic keeper error.
Anyway, great start to Division 3, considering that on paper this would have been considered our toughest game. Roll on Cavan next week.
Wondefull start to the campaign for Fermanagh. Great result and a vital 2 points. Wicklow looked a tricky test on paper and we came through with flying colours. Was not at the game but its good to see Sean Quigley hitting 6 points. Maybe he can take on the mantle of leading the Fermanagh forwards.
Quote from: ross4life on February 03, 2013, 05:27:45 PM
Good to get off to winning start and full value for the win. Decent enough 1st half but the 2nd half was poor stuff only 7 scores and bucket load of wides kicked. Tricky assignment for us next Saturday night our last trip to Enniskillen will bring back some bad memories.
I remember that game well Ross. We were awful and still somehow managed to beat you.
How many of the Brigid's boys will be missing?
Quote from: FermGael on February 03, 2013, 07:57:22 PM
Wondefull start to the campaign for Fermanagh. Great result and a vital 2 points. Wicklow looked a tricky test on paper and we came through with flying colours. Was not at the game but its good to see Sean Quigley hitting 6 points. Maybe he can take on the mantle of leading the Fermanagh forwards.
Quote from: ross4life on February 03, 2013, 05:27:45 PM
Good to get off to winning start and full value for the win. Decent enough 1st half but the 2nd half was poor stuff only 7 scores and bucket load of wides kicked. Tricky assignment for us next Saturday night our last trip to Enniskillen will bring back some bad memories.
I remember that game well Ross. We were awful and still somehow managed to beat you.
How many of the Brigid's boys will be missing?
As far as i know 7 on panel at least 5 of them will be starting come championship time. Donal Shine pulled his hamstring he's also out. Fermanagh missing anyone?
Think I might spend a bit of time getting to know the lads in the division 4 thread.
Break the ice, so to speak.
I'm sure it's the legendary Spring stamina training. Running up the dunes in Bettystown and stuff. It's only the league, sure.
Quote from: Jinxy on February 03, 2013, 08:12:32 PM
Think I might spend a bit of time getting to know the lads in the division 4 thread.
Break the ice, so to speak.
The spin down to Carlow can be pleasant enough and the sea air in Miltown Malbay can be bracing in March.
At least there are no relegation pressures in Div 4!!!
I'm sure the Waterford lads would love a jaunt to Nawvan.
Quote from: ross4life on February 03, 2013, 08:03:51 PM
Quote from: FermGael on February 03, 2013, 07:57:22 PM
Wondefull start to the campaign for Fermanagh. Great result and a vital 2 points. Wicklow looked a tricky test on paper and we came through with flying colours. Was not at the game but its good to see Sean Quigley hitting 6 points. Maybe he can take on the mantle of leading the Fermanagh forwards.
Quote from: ross4life on February 03, 2013, 05:27:45 PM
Good to get off to winning start and full value for the win. Decent enough 1st half but the 2nd half was poor stuff only 7 scores and bucket load of wides kicked. Tricky assignment for us next Saturday night our last trip to Enniskillen will bring back some bad memories.
I remember that game well Ross. We were awful and still somehow managed to beat you.
How many of the Brigid's boys will be missing?
As far as i know 7 on panel at least 5 of them will be starting come championship time. Donal Shine pulled his hamstring he's also out. Fermanagh missing anyone?
McGrath played for 20 minutes today which should mean he is in the running to start next weekend.
Owens has not played this year at all so i would assume he is still out injured. Daniel Killie and Conor Quigley as well. Seamus Quigley is not a member of this years panel. McCluskey was taken of injured today so i would assume he will be a doubt for Saturday.
Doesn't augur well for the year ahead that we cannot beat Leitrim and a Roscommon team missing the Brigids contingent and others. When will our management learn that we will not win games with 3 little fellas in the full forward line.
Quote from: Mano on February 03, 2013, 09:22:45 PM
Doesn't augur well for the year ahead that we cannot beat Leitrim and a Roscommon team missing the Brigids contingent and others. When will our management learn that we will not win games with 3 little fellas in the full forward line.
Is David Kelly out for the whole League?
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 03, 2013, 09:24:48 PM
Quote from: Mano on February 03, 2013, 09:22:45 PM
Doesn't augur well for the year ahead that we cannot beat Leitrim and a Roscommon team missing the Brigids contingent and others. When will our management learn that we will not win games with 3 little fellas in the full forward line.
Is David Kelly out for the whole League?
Think so
Quote from: ross4life on February 03, 2013, 08:03:51 PM
Quote from: FermGael on February 03, 2013, 07:57:22 PM
Wondefull start to the campaign for Fermanagh. Great result and a vital 2 points. Wicklow looked a tricky test on paper and we came through with flying colours. Was not at the game but its good to see Sean Quigley hitting 6 points. Maybe he can take on the mantle of leading the Fermanagh forwards.
Quote from: ross4life on February 03, 2013, 05:27:45 PM
Good to get off to winning start and full value for the win. Decent enough 1st half but the 2nd half was poor stuff only 7 scores and bucket load of wides kicked. Tricky assignment for us next Saturday night our last trip to Enniskillen will bring back some bad memories.
I remember that game well Ross. We were awful and still somehow managed to beat you.
How many of the Brigid's boys will be missing?
As far as i know 7 on panel at least 5 of them will be starting come championship time. Donal Shine pulled his hamstring he's also out. Fermanagh missing anyone?
5 starting come championship time me arse. Senan Kilbride will. Peter Domican will do well to make the first 15. Mannion will do well also, depends on Cathal Shines performances in midfield. Ian Kilbride is a very talented half back, however with Niall Daly, Ward, Brogan and Collins he is up against it. Who else has a hope of starting after that? These lads have serious miles up on the clock, Domo has not had a break from football since he was 17. Ros were about 8 points a better team today, shooting was very poor at times. Free taker when Donie Shine is not on the pitch is a major problem. Carthy and Colins played very well.
Quote from: Sea The Stars on February 03, 2013, 06:32:29 PM
I made the trip up to Clones. Small enough Meath support there. Sign of where the team is going I think.
As for the game itself, Well and truly outplayed. We weren't prepared for Monaghan's blanket defence at all - the hopeless kicking into the FF line was pathetic, all the way from start to finish. Do we not do handpassing drills in training? Our support play seemed to fall apart once we got into Monaghan's half. Too many players seem to lose the ball in the tackle too - is this a sign of physical weakness?
Only positives: the captain Eoghan Harrington done well I thought. Good to see him back. Gillespie had a few good moments in centre field. The rest well I don't know what to say. We conceded a big score but the backs were facing wave after wave of attack. Lenehan and Dalton gave the ball away a lot and how many times was Joe blocked down? Talk about telegraphing his kicks. The Monaghan goal was embarrassing from a Meath point of view - two lads handpassing the ball between them the whole way up from their own '45. All the forwards were atricious too maybe a bit of credit to Queeney who picked up a few breaks and managed to get the goal after recieving the ball still with a bit of work to do. Surprised he was the first to go. The subs had no impact. Our day was summed up with around five minutes to go (Monaghan had eased up by now) when Tormey and Sheridan ran into each other going for a ball, then for a split second one left it for the other before running it each other again!! Eventually a cringing Monaghan defender cleared the ball.
Seeing as you made the effort to go the game and witness it, your punishment is complete, it would be cruel to gloat.
Quote from: Rudi on February 03, 2013, 09:37:06 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 03, 2013, 08:03:51 PM
Quote from: FermGael on February 03, 2013, 07:57:22 PM
Wondefull start to the campaign for Fermanagh. Great result and a vital 2 points. Wicklow looked a tricky test on paper and we came through with flying colours. Was not at the game but its good to see Sean Quigley hitting 6 points. Maybe he can take on the mantle of leading the Fermanagh forwards.
Quote from: ross4life on February 03, 2013, 05:27:45 PM
Good to get off to winning start and full value for the win. Decent enough 1st half but the 2nd half was poor stuff only 7 scores and bucket load of wides kicked. Tricky assignment for us next Saturday night our last trip to Enniskillen will bring back some bad memories.
I remember that game well Ross. We were awful and still somehow managed to beat you.
How many of the Brigid's boys will be missing?
As far as i know 7 on panel at least 5 of them will be starting come championship time. Donal Shine pulled his hamstring he's also out. Fermanagh missing anyone?
5 starting come championship time me arse. Senan Kilbride will. Peter Domican will do well to make the first 15. Mannion will do well also, depends on Cathal Shines performances in midfield. Ian Kilbride is a very talented half back, however with Niall Daly, Ward, Brogan and Collins he is up against it. Who else has a hope of starting after that? These lads have serious miles up on the clock, Domo has not had a break from football since he was 17. Ros were about 8 points a better team today, shooting was very poor at times. Free taker when Donie Shine is not on the pitch is a major problem. Carthy and Colins played very well.
St Brigid's are the best club side in Connacht one of the best in Ireland. It's your opinion of course if you think only one Brigids player will be on the starting 15 but you'll find more often than not experience/proven quality is picked over talented potential. The young players coming through will certainly give John Evans plenty of selection headaches and competition for places is a healthy thing to have especially when it's a squad game nowadays.
Quote from: Hardy on February 03, 2013, 03:34:09 PM
Monaghan 1-18
Meath 2-3
Full time. A big comeback in the last two minutes.
It has gone all Nottingham Forest for Meath today.
Went down to this yesterday. Was gobsmacked how poor, no terrible, Meath where. They looked like they'd just met in the car park and decided to play a game for the craic. Many people cry out for the kicking game to return but if they saw how meath tried to play it yesteday they'd ban the kick pass. Long aimless balls playing in high and niss directed, short kicks going over players heads, passes not beating the opposition standing 20 yards away, blocked down half a dozen times at least. It was terrible. Scored one goal at the start, another at the end and 3 points in between. A sorry state.
Monaghan impressed, took their time getting going in first half and Meath made it hard with men behind the ball but only for poor finishing they'd have been more comfortable than they where. They stuck to the game plan and eventually broke meath and cut free in the second half. Alot of good displays with only Paul Finlay and Dessie Mone underperforming.
Good start and important to win the home games. If Meath are as bad again, they should concentrate on the hurling.
Quote from: ross4life on February 03, 2013, 10:20:45 PM
Quote from: Rudi on February 03, 2013, 09:37:06 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 03, 2013, 08:03:51 PM
Quote from: FermGael on February 03, 2013, 07:57:22 PM
Wondefull start to the campaign for Fermanagh. Great result and a vital 2 points. Wicklow looked a tricky test on paper and we came through with flying colours. Was not at the game but its good to see Sean Quigley hitting 6 points. Maybe he can take on the mantle of leading the Fermanagh forwards.
Quote from: ross4life on February 03, 2013, 05:27:45 PM
Good to get off to winning start and full value for the win. Decent enough 1st half but the 2nd half was poor stuff only 7 scores and bucket load of wides kicked. Tricky assignment for us next Saturday night our last trip to Enniskillen will bring back some bad memories.
I remember that game well Ross. We were awful and still somehow managed to beat you.
How many of the Brigid's boys will be missing?
As far as i know 7 on panel at least 5 of them will be starting come championship time. Donal Shine pulled his hamstring he's also out. Fermanagh missing anyone?
5 starting come championship time me arse. Senan Kilbride will. Peter Domican will do well to make the first 15. Mannion will do well also, depends on Cathal Shines performances in midfield. Ian Kilbride is a very talented half back, however with Niall Daly, Ward, Brogan and Collins he is up against it. Who else has a hope of starting after that? These lads have serious miles up on the clock, Domo has not had a break from football since he was 17. Ros were about 8 points a better team today, shooting was very poor at times. Free taker when Donie Shine is not on the pitch is a major problem. Carthy and Colins played very well.
St Brigid's are the best club side in Connacht one of the best in Ireland. It's your opinion of course if you think only one Brigids player will be on the starting 15 but you'll find more often than not experience/proven quality is picked over talented potential. The young players coming through will certainly give John Evans plenty of selection headaches and competition for places is a healthy thing to have especially when it's a squad game nowadays.
So they should automatically have 5-7 players on the county team ::) Where did I say Brigids will have only 1 player on the starting 15? Who are the 5 or more that will start come championship time in your opinion? Only the 2 Kilbrides, Mannion and Domo are in with a shout. Frankie is top quality, but is not on the panel. The younger Dolan lad can hardly make the Brigids team.
Quote from: Bingo on February 04, 2013, 09:38:02 AM
A lot of good displays with only Paul Finlay and Dessie Mone underperforming.
I wouldn't be too worried about those two at this stage.
How is Gavin Doogan shaping up this year?
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Quote from: Bingo on February 04, 2013, 09:38:02 AM
A lot of good displays with only Paul Finlay and Dessie Mone underperforming.
I wouldn't be too worried about those two at this stage.
How is Gavin Doogan shaping up this year?
Yeah, when the ground firms up Finlay and Mone might impress more.
Gavin Doogan was excellent, kicked a point but generally just covered the ground very well and did the dirty work. In the wars a few times but never stopped, carried well and linked up play well. He got a great reception when he went off near the end. He the type of player Monaghan have missed and was good to see him finally in a county team.
Full back line was very good I thought, very disciplined and played right on the shoulder of their men. No ball was won easy off them and they very hard to shake off plus they where all willing to support the attacking when needed, not aimless running for the hell of it but clever surges forward when needed.
Thanks for that summary Bingo.
Lets hope we have that springboard effect that the Man from Strabane says is there for the taking, for the losing McKenna cup finalists.
A lot of the talk about Meath's performance after this match but I was very impressed by Monaghan too.
They were prepared for this game and executed their blanket defence tactics very well. Even when the scoreline indicated that this was still a contest, Monaghan were very disciplined in their tackling and very committed in getting the numbers back making sure Meath forwards had no space to run into. There was always pressure on the Meath man in possession. When they had possession themselves, the ball carrier always had options open to him.
They picked off the scores in the first half and continued to do that in the early stages of the second half and eventually got the goal they deserved. By then, Meath had been pounded into submission and all the things above came even easier to Monaghan.
If they continue with yesterday's effort, I expect they'll top the group and go back up to Division 2.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 03, 2013, 02:42:44 PM
Id like the roscommon supporters to shed some light on the penalty given? Fair play to ref won the game for them.
Put it this way, if a player barges into another player out the field, its a free. This happened in the square so its a penalty. Saying that 4 out of 5 times it would not have been awarded. Inconsistent refereeing is the problem, although the same referee made strange decisions to both sides all day. Your threw in the towel early on this one Sligonian, petulance of the highest order.
Quote from: Rudi on February 04, 2013, 02:56:04 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 03, 2013, 02:42:44 PM
Id like the roscommon supporters to shed some light on the penalty given? Fair play to ref won the game for them.
Put it this way, if a player barges into another player out the field, its a free. This happened in the square so its a penalty. Saying that 4 out of 5 times it would not have been awarded. Inconsistent refereeing is the problem, although the same referee made strange decisions to both sides all day. Your threw in the towel early on this one Sligonian, petulance of the highest order.
sorry headmaster but I didn't throw in any towel, if u read syferus post he says our fullback pulled a jersey and peno was given for that. How many penalties did ye see? And saying he made poor decisions for both teams to try and add weight to ur argument is nonsensical giving the penalty importance and timing. It would be nice to see a bit of honesty and integrity on this board. It's funny how none of the neutral journos saw it as clear cut as rudi and syferus. Now where is that towel.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 03, 2013, 02:42:44 PM
Id like the roscommon supporters to shed some light on the penalty given? Fair play to ref won the game for them.
Saying this at half time, 4 points down with the wind at yer backs for second half, is throwing in the towel. The penalty was of the soft variety and I would not be overly impressed if it had been the other way around. However rules are rules and in the strict sense the ref applied them accordingly. Saying the ref was bad for both sides was not trying to add weight to any argument, just saying he was ch"te, with no vendetta against either team.
For the record the better team won on the day. I would like to see Sligo go well for rest of campaign, who knows maybe both of us could sneak into Division 2 and dare I say it a repeat of the 2010 Connacht final.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 04, 2013, 03:14:27 PM
Quote from: Rudi on February 04, 2013, 02:56:04 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 03, 2013, 02:42:44 PM
Id like the roscommon supporters to shed some light on the penalty given? Fair play to ref won the game for them.
Put it this way, if a player barges into another player out the field, its a free. This happened in the square so its a penalty. Saying that 4 out of 5 times it would not have been awarded. Inconsistent refereeing is the problem, although the same referee made strange decisions to both sides all day. Your threw in the towel early on this one Sligonian, petulance of the highest order.
sorry headmaster but I didn't throw in any towel, if u read syferus post he says our fullback pulled a jersey and peno was given for that. How many penalties did ye see? And saying he made poor decisions for both teams to try and add weight to ur argument is nonsensical giving the penalty importance and timing. It would be nice to see a bit of honesty and integrity on this board. It's funny how none of the neutral journos saw it as clear cut as rudi and syferus. Now where is that towel.
Noooo. The high ball was perfectly weighted and was coming down right on top of him and that's why it was easy for the ref to give the penalty when he missed the ball completely. The ref was horrible but he was equally horrible, it was hard to say he was any advantage to either side over the course of the match. That was one of the few calls he made all day that no one should have any complaints about.
The Sligo keeper chanced his arm because he didn't trust himself to win or break the ball. He got caught. The end.
The losers always see what they want in flash-points while the media are very quick to trot out their favourite cliche and call something 'controversial', we all know that by now. I know I've been guilty of being selective when we lose but if I thought that was anything less than a clear penalty I'd say so.
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Wondefull start to the campaign for Fermanagh. Great result and a vital 2 points. Wicklow looked a tricky test on paper and we came through with flying colours. Was not at the game but its good to see Sean Quigley hitting 6 points. Maybe he can take on the mantle of leading the Fermanagh forwards.
Quote from: ross4life on February 03, 2013, 05:27:45 PM
Good to get off to winning start and full value for the win. Decent enough 1st half but the 2nd half was poor stuff only 7 scores and bucket load of wides kicked. Tricky assignment for us next Saturday night our last trip to Enniskillen will bring back some bad memories.
I remember that game well Ross. We were awful and still somehow managed to beat you.
How many of the Brigid's boys will be missing?
As far as i know 7 on panel at least 5 of them will be starting come championship time. Donal Shine pulled his hamstring he's also out. Fermanagh missing anyone?
5 starting come championship time me arse. Senan Kilbride will. Peter Domican will do well to make the first 15. Mannion will do well also, depends on Cathal Shines performances in midfield. Ian Kilbride is a very talented half back, however with Niall Daly, Ward, Brogan and Collins he is up against it. Who else has a hope of starting after that? These lads have serious miles up on the clock, Domo has not had a break from football since he was 17. Ros were about 8 points a better team today, shooting was very poor at times. Free taker when Donie Shine is not on the pitch is a major problem. Carthy and Colins played very well.
St Brigid's are the best club side in Connacht one of the best in Ireland. It's your opinion of course if you think only one Brigids player will be on the starting 15 but you'll find more often than not experience/proven quality is picked over talented potential. The young players coming through will certainly give John Evans plenty of selection headaches and competition for places is a healthy thing to have especially when it's a squad game nowadays.
So they should automatically have 5-7 players on the county team ::) Where did I say Brigids will have only 1 player on the starting 15? Who are the 5 or more that will start come championship time in your opinion? Only the 2 Kilbrides, Mannion and Domo are in with a shout. Frankie is top quality, but is not on the panel. The younger Dolan lad can hardly make the Brigids team.
My opinion is an educated guess and reading between the lines it seems you think only Senan will make the starting line up? The four Brigids players named were the only ones on the panel the last few years and when they were fit and available they were starters. Darren Dolan had a few injury problems, the year before he was Brigids player of the year he can certainly give us something different if given a chance Ronan Stack and Darragh Donnelly are another two that have impressed and it's a shame Frankie has packed it in at county level even now at 34 he remains one of the best footballers in Connacht.
John Evans has gone on record to say 7 St Brigids players will be on this years panel. From yesterdays panel Colm Compton,Scott Oates,Conor Daly,Donie Smith,Donal Keane,Cathal Shine,Niall Daly,Paddy Brogan are all 21 or under, younger players can be incredibly inconsistent and it will be another year or two before number of them become regular starters. In the meantime it would be sensible to start the more experienced players Domican,Kilbride etc.
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Quote from: FermGael on February 03, 2013, 07:57:22 PM
Wondefull start to the campaign for Fermanagh. Great result and a vital 2 points. Wicklow looked a tricky test on paper and we came through with flying colours. Was not at the game but its good to see Sean Quigley hitting 6 points. Maybe he can take on the mantle of leading the Fermanagh forwards.
Quote from: ross4life on February 03, 2013, 05:27:45 PM
Good to get off to winning start and full value for the win. Decent enough 1st half but the 2nd half was poor stuff only 7 scores and bucket load of wides kicked. Tricky assignment for us next Saturday night our last trip to Enniskillen will bring back some bad memories.
I remember that game well Ross. We were awful and still somehow managed to beat you.
How many of the Brigid's boys will be missing?
As far as i know 7 on panel at least 5 of them will be starting come championship time. Donal Shine pulled his hamstring he's also out. Fermanagh missing anyone?
5 starting come championship time me arse. Senan Kilbride will. Peter Domican will do well to make the first 15. Mannion will do well also, depends on Cathal Shines performances in midfield. Ian Kilbride is a very talented half back, however with Niall Daly, Ward, Brogan and Collins he is up against it. Who else has a hope of starting after that? These lads have serious miles up on the clock, Domo has not had a break from football since he was 17. Ros were about 8 points a better team today, shooting was very poor at times. Free taker when Donie Shine is not on the pitch is a major problem. Carthy and Colins played very well.
St Brigid's are the best club side in Connacht one of the best in Ireland. It's your opinion of course if you think only one Brigids player will be on the starting 15 but you'll find more often than not experience/proven quality is picked over talented potential. The young players coming through will certainly give John Evans plenty of selection headaches and competition for places is a healthy thing to have especially when it's a squad game nowadays.
So they should automatically have 5-7 players on the county team ::) Where did I say Brigids will have only 1 player on the starting 15? Who are the 5 or more that will start come championship time in your opinion? Only the 2 Kilbrides, Mannion and Domo are in with a shout. Frankie is top quality, but is not on the panel. The younger Dolan lad can hardly make the Brigids team.
My opinion is an educated guess and reading between the lines it seems you think only Senan will make the starting line up? The four Brigids players named were the only ones on the panel the last few years and when they were fit and available they were starters. Darren Dolan had a few injury problems, the year before he was Brigids player of the year he can certainly give us something different if given a chance Ronan Stack and Darragh Donnelly are another two that have impressed and it's a shame Frankie has packed it in at county level even now at 34 he remains one of the best footballers in Connacht.
John Evans has gone on record to say 7 St Brigids players will be on this years panel. From yesterdays panel Colm Compton,Scott Oates,Conor Daly,Donie Smith,Donal Keane,Cathal Shine,Niall Daly,Paddy Brogan are all 21 or under, younger players can be incredibly inconsistent and it will be another year or two before number of them become regular starters. In the meantime it would be sensible to start the more experienced players Domican,Kilbride etc.
Well regardless of how many Brigids players start for Roscommon, they'll certainly add some depth and much needed experience to the squad. Looking at the bench yesterday they were lacking in any experienced player to come on and impact on the game if necessary. We miss the likes of Seamus O' Neil who would always make an impact in a game whether from the bench or starting. Donal Smith really impressed yesterday and in addition to Kilbride and Shine, it has the makings of a potent full forward line (given the right service, of course). Looking at Roscommon yesterday whenever they delivered quick, quality ball into the fall forward line it caused trouble for Sligo. However their attack can be ponderous and predictable a lot of the time and they seemingly refuse to switch the ball over from one side to another when they start running into cul de sacs. I've got to admit I didn't see what the penalty was given for, did anyone clearly see what happened as the only insight I can get from reports of the match is that it was "controversial".
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Quote from: FermGael on February 03, 2013, 07:57:22 PM
Wondefull start to the campaign for Fermanagh. Great result and a vital 2 points. Wicklow looked a tricky test on paper and we came through with flying colours. Was not at the game but its good to see Sean Quigley hitting 6 points. Maybe he can take on the mantle of leading the Fermanagh forwards.
Quote from: ross4life on February 03, 2013, 05:27:45 PM
Good to get off to winning start and full value for the win. Decent enough 1st half but the 2nd half was poor stuff only 7 scores and bucket load of wides kicked. Tricky assignment for us next Saturday night our last trip to Enniskillen will bring back some bad memories.
I remember that game well Ross. We were awful and still somehow managed to beat you.
How many of the Brigid's boys will be missing?
As far as i know 7 on panel at least 5 of them will be starting come championship time. Donal Shine pulled his hamstring he's also out. Fermanagh missing anyone?
5 starting come championship time me arse. Senan Kilbride will. Peter Domican will do well to make the first 15. Mannion will do well also, depends on Cathal Shines performances in midfield. Ian Kilbride is a very talented half back, however with Niall Daly, Ward, Brogan and Collins he is up against it. Who else has a hope of starting after that? These lads have serious miles up on the clock, Domo has not had a break from football since he was 17. Ros were about 8 points a better team today, shooting was very poor at times. Free taker when Donie Shine is not on the pitch is a major problem. Carthy and Colins played very well.
St Brigid's are the best club side in Connacht one of the best in Ireland. It's your opinion of course if you think only one Brigids player will be on the starting 15 but you'll find more often than not experience/proven quality is picked over talented potential. The young players coming through will certainly give John Evans plenty of selection headaches and competition for places is a healthy thing to have especially when it's a squad game nowadays.
So they should automatically have 5-7 players on the county team ::) Where did I say Brigids will have only 1 player on the starting 15? Who are the 5 or more that will start come championship time in your opinion? Only the 2 Kilbrides, Mannion and Domo are in with a shout. Frankie is top quality, but is not on the panel. The younger Dolan lad can hardly make the Brigids team.
Haven't a clue what Brigid's team you've been watching. Darren had been nursing an injury since the Melvin Gaels game and was on crutches after that one ended. That's the only reason he didn't start the semi or final, when he did come on he has a huge impact in both games, hell he was verging on man-of-the-match again Melvin on one good leg.
The only thing stopping Darren from being in contention for Roscommon starts is that opponents always single him out for special treatment and he rises to the provocation far too often. Frankie's mellowed with age and if Darren can follow his lead and get a better handle on his emotions he's more than talented enough to be a big boost to the county panel.
Good to beat our nicest neighbours yesterday but we made heavy enough weather of it.
A good 2nd quarter and the "controversial" penalty had it sewn up for us by half time.
A middlin 3rd quarter got us a 6 point lead but failure to score in the last 20 was a worry but thankfully Sligo had enough wides to save our blushes.
Donie Smith is some player and was my man of the match ( scored 1-4). finneran when he got going eventually, Keenan, Carty, Seanie,Collins and Niall Daly also played well. Donal Ward had taken the game by the scruff of the neck and could have wreaked a lot more damage only for that injury.
Fair play to Evans for not taking off Conor Daly who hopefully will have better days ahead but I wonder why he saw the need to throw him in so soon and leave Paddy Brogan on the bench. James Connaughton wasn't the answer when he cam on either.
A tough task awaits in Enniskillen on Saturday night but the confidence generated by yesterday plus there won't be as much pressure to get a result might mean we could be more attack conscious and expansive and get the ball in fast to the forwards.
Come on John Evans - you're a Kerry man - less of the puke football :P
I hope Rossies do poorly. Bad experience in the Hyde last year with the local 'gaels.'
Quote from: Gold on February 04, 2013, 09:13:15 PM
I hope Rossies do poorly. Bad experience in the Hyde last year with the local 'gaels.'
:-*
People who judge a whole county because of a couple of yobs is beyond pathetic, they know no better, you should.
There was great banter at all the home games last year, even when Galway and Tyrone were hammering us and I didn't see or hear of a single incident.
Quote from: Syferus on February 04, 2013, 09:25:10 PM
Quote from: Gold on February 04, 2013, 09:13:15 PM
I hope Rossies do poorly. Bad experience in the Hyde last year with the local 'gaels.'
:-*
People who judge a whole county because of a couple of yobs is beyond pathetic, they know no better, you should.
There was great banter at all the home games last year, even when Galway and Tyrone were hammering us and I didn't see or hear of a single incident.
Among genuine Roscommon supporters there's none of that carry on but unfortunately your bound to get a few people like that who have little sense. Seriously though don't tar us all with the same brush just because a few were acting the maggot. :-\
I was behind the stand at half time when you were selling Ross supporters umbrellas. Tannoy announced it just before. I needed an umbrella and enquired as to the price. 4 men were standing there at stall when I asked.
Seller in his 40's said (deadpan) ' sure what would you want one of them for, would you not want some red and white to go with the blue?" cue laughter from his mates. Didn't even say only messin they're 20quid or whatever. Dickhead.
As one of about 4 Saffrons who bothered travelling I was majorly pissed off by this 'welcome' and vowed to even support mayo and Galway when they play against u forever more.
Im not even bein overly touch as he wasn't even tryin to have the Craic. Soured my first and last experience of the Hyde!
Quote from: Gold on February 04, 2013, 11:09:25 PM
I was behind the stand at half time when you were selling Ross supporters umbrellas. Tannoy announced it just before. I needed an umbrella and enquired as to the price. 4 men were standing there at stall when I asked.
Seller in his 40's said (deadpan) ' sure what would you want one of them for, would you not want some red and white to go with the blue?" cue laughter from his mates. Didn't even say only messin they're 20quid or whatever. d**khead.
As one of about 4 Saffrons who bothered travelling I was majorly pissed off by this 'welcome' and vowed to even support mayo and Galway when they play against u forever more.
Im not even bein overly touch as he wasn't even tryin to have the Craic. Soured my first and last experience of the Hyde!
Don't tar them all with the same brush Gold, that umbrella seller is one of the sounder locals.
Quote from: Gold on February 04, 2013, 11:09:25 PM
I was behind the stand at half time when you were selling Ross supporters umbrellas. Tannoy announced it just before. I needed an umbrella and enquired as to the price. 4 men were standing there at stall when I asked.
Seller in his 40's said (deadpan) ' sure what would you want one of them for, would you not want some red and white to go with the blue?" cue laughter from his mates. Didn't even say only messin they're 20quid or whatever. d**khead.
As one of about 4 Saffrons who bothered travelling I was majorly pissed off by this 'welcome' and vowed to even support mayo and Galway when they play against u forever more.
Im not even bein overly touch as he wasn't even tryin to have the Craic. Soured my first and last experience of the Hyde!
For one there was plenty of Antrim fans at that game, indeed I remember most supporters remarking how much supporting you had for a game so far away from home.
No doubt you had a bad encounter and it was in very poor taste but it is nothing short of stupid to try and group a whole county together like that. Your reaction is every bit as bad as his comment, and worse in ways because you've had plenty of time to consider it.
If I go to Casement next month and met some Antrim fella cracking ill-timed jokes and then I came on here and wished your county hell how exactly would you feel? It's easy to take a stand when you're the wronged party, much harder to see the bigger picture.
Quote from: Gold on February 04, 2013, 11:09:25 PM
I was behind the stand at half time when you were selling Ross supporters umbrellas. Tannoy announced it just before. I needed an umbrella and enquired as to the price. 4 men were standing there at stall when I asked.
Seller in his 40's said (deadpan) ' sure what would you want one of them for, would you not want some red and white to go with the blue?" cue laughter from his mates. Didn't even say only messin they're 20quid or whatever. d**khead.
As one of about 4 Saffrons who bothered travelling I was majorly pissed off by this 'welcome' and vowed to even support mayo and Galway when they play against u forever more.
Im not even bein overly touch as he wasn't even tryin to have the Craic. Soured my first and last experience of the Hyde!
Yes like everyone else we have a few d**kheads. I seem to remember you spent an enjoyable weekend in Roscommon town another time? you remind me of my dad, (also from the north) he once traveled to all the away games and occasionally got insulted because of his accent it shouldn't happen especially in the GAA but you will always have those with a low IQ. Those umbrella sellers wouldn't be hard to track down, we don't have that many in the supporters club a Garda is one of the founding members and he would be very disappointed to hear of that type of carry on.
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Quote from: Gold on February 04, 2013, 11:09:25 PM
I was behind the stand at half time when you were selling Ross supporters umbrellas. Tannoy announced it just before. I needed an umbrella and enquired as to the price. 4 men were standing there at stall when I asked.
Seller in his 40's said (deadpan) ' sure what would you want one of them for, would you not want some red and white to go with the blue?" cue laughter from his mates. Didn't even say only messin they're 20quid or whatever. d**khead.
As one of about 4 Saffrons who bothered travelling I was majorly pissed off by this 'welcome' and vowed to even support mayo and Galway when they play against u forever more.
Im not even bein overly touch as he wasn't even tryin to have the Craic. Soured my first and last experience of the Hyde!
Yes like everyone else we have a few d**kheads. I seem to remember you spent an enjoyable weekend in Roscommon town another time? you remind me of my dad, (also from the north) he once traveled to all the away games and occasionally got insulted because of his accent it shouldn't happen especially in the GAA but you will always have those with a low IQ. Those umbrella sellers wouldn't be hard to track down, we don't have that many in the supporters club a Garda is one of the founding members and he would be very disappointed to hear of that type of carry on.
Ye have a lot more than your fair share of pricks in Ros.
But there are decent fellas there as well, they're just not as loud or obnoxious as the pricks.
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I was behind the stand at half time when you were selling Ross supporters umbrellas. Tannoy announced it just before. I needed an umbrella and enquired as to the price. 4 men were standing there at stall when I asked.
Seller in his 40's said (deadpan) ' sure what would you want one of them for, would you not want some red and white to go with the blue?" cue laughter from his mates. Didn't even say only messin they're 20quid or whatever. d**khead.
As one of about 4 Saffrons who bothered travelling I was majorly pissed off by this 'welcome' and vowed to even support mayo and Galway when they play against u forever more.
Im not even bein overly touch as he wasn't even tryin to have the Craic. Soured my first and last experience of the Hyde!
Yes like everyone else we have a few d**kheads. I seem to remember you spent an enjoyable weekend in Roscommon town another time? you remind me of my dad, (also from the north) he once traveled to all the away games and occasionally got insulted because of his accent it shouldn't happen especially in the GAA but you will always have those with a low IQ. Those umbrella sellers wouldn't be hard to track down, we don't have that many in the supporters club a Garda is one of the founding members and he would be very disappointed to hear of that type of carry on.
Ye have a lot more than your fair share of pricks in Ros.
But there are decent fellas there as well, they're just not as loud or obnoxious as the pricks.
Oh ffs.
You know what the only flash-point I saw in dozens of games last year was?
A Mayo supporter that threatened to punch a Dub because he kept standing up in front of him, which in itself was due to the people in front of the Dublin support standing up and gettingin
his view. Not just any Mayo supporter - a middle-aged man with his two children and his daughter's friends. Classy.
"Ye have a lot more than your fair share of pricks in Mayo."
Anecdotes don't tell anything about any group of supporters, just that whatever colour someone is wearing it's no safe-guard against them being an insufferable idiot.
I don't even care if you're attempting an ill-timed wind-up routine; this labeling of supporters in the GAA is making the people vomiting it out look every bit as bad as the people they're bemoaning.
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I was behind the stand at half time when you were selling Ross supporters umbrellas. Tannoy announced it just before. I needed an umbrella and enquired as to the price. 4 men were standing there at stall when I asked.
Seller in his 40's said (deadpan) ' sure what would you want one of them for, would you not want some red and white to go with the blue?" cue laughter from his mates. Didn't even say only messin they're 20quid or whatever. d**khead.
As one of about 4 Saffrons who bothered travelling I was majorly pissed off by this 'welcome' and vowed to even support mayo and Galway when they play against u forever more.
Im not even bein overly touch as he wasn't even tryin to have the Craic. Soured my first and last experience of the Hyde!
Yes like everyone else we have a few d**kheads. I seem to remember you spent an enjoyable weekend in Roscommon town another time? you remind me of my dad, (also from the north) he once traveled to all the away games and occasionally got insulted because of his accent it shouldn't happen especially in the GAA but you will always have those with a low IQ. Those umbrella sellers wouldn't be hard to track down, we don't have that many in the supporters club a Garda is one of the founding members and he would be very disappointed to hear of that type of carry on.
Ye have a lot more than your fair share of pricks in Ros.
But there are decent fellas there as well, they're just not as loud or obnoxious as the pricks.
Oh ffs. More stupidity.
You know what the only flash-point I saw in dozens of games last year was?
A Mayo supporter that threatened to punch a Dub because he kept standing up in front of him, which in itself was due to the people in front of the Dublin support standing up and gettingin his view. Not just any Mayo supporter - a middle-aged man with his two children and his daughter's friends. Classy.
"Ye have a lot more than your fair share of pricks in Mayo."
Anecdotes don't tell anything about any group of supporters, just that whatever colour someone is wearing it's no safe-guard against them being an insufferable idiot.
I don't even care if you're attempting an ill-timed wind-up routine; this labeling of supporters in the GAA is making the people vomiting it out look every bit as bad as the people they're bemoaning.
I've had enough experiences to have formed an opinion - mainly at U21 games for some reason, they seem to attract a certain type of raving lunatic wearing his 747 jersey. Some of the abuse I heard roared at underage players was nothing short of disgraceful.
But as I said, I know of decent Rossies as well, they do exist, it's just that they are overshadowed by the loudmouths.
They're obviously not and anyone with an ounce of sense could see that.
You're looking incredibly small right now.
I'd say a fella could make a handy few euros selling umbrellas in Roscommon.
Quote from: Syferus on February 05, 2013, 09:41:34 AM
They're obviously not and anyone with an once of sense could see that.
You're looking incredibly small right now.
It's not a personal attack lad, don't get so offended. I'm only saying that in my experience, there's a lot of assholes in Roscommon jerseys at Mayo v Roscommon matches. I have nothing else to say on the matter, so I'll leave it at that.
Is there a new rule about soft penalties for Roscommon at home to Sligo? U21 final was the same, same time in the game too I think.
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 05, 2013, 10:38:35 AM
Is there a new rule about soft penalties for Roscommon at home to Sligo? U21 final was the same, same time in the game too I think.
Roscommon are part of the match fixing scam :( Hence the savage beatings by Mayo over the years.
Quote from: Rudi on February 05, 2013, 12:59:40 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 05, 2013, 10:38:35 AM
Is there a new rule about soft penalties for Roscommon at home to Sligo? U21 final was the same, same time in the game too I think.
Roscommon are part of the match fixing scam :( Hence the savage beatings by Mayo over the years.
If you were trying to argue it why not point out all the dodgy penalties Sligo have got against Roscommon. Oh yeah, I see why you didn't do that....
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 05, 2013, 10:38:35 AM
Is there a new rule about soft penalties for Roscommon at home to Sligo? U21 final was the same, same time in the game too I think.
Just the oul rule about not committing fouls in the square ;)
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 05, 2013, 02:15:59 PM
Quote from: Rudi on February 05, 2013, 12:59:40 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 05, 2013, 10:38:35 AM
Is there a new rule about soft penalties for Roscommon at home to Sligo? U21 final was the same, same time in the game too I think.
Roscommon are part of the match fixing scam :( Hence the savage beatings by Mayo over the years.
If you were trying to argue it why not point out all the dodgy penalties Sligo have got against Roscommon. Oh yeah, I see why you didn't do that....
roscommon is a great football county but by fck they got some rub of the green against in the matches that matter, they might of won anyway no doubt but last sun that was a serious help.
I'm glad I won't see much of them this yr again bar the minor championship which we may aswell concede now as it will have Connacht ref.
In all serious IMHO the GAA is rife with match fixing at all levels. We should really get involved and buy a few Connacht titles to start with. 8)
Quote from: Gold on February 04, 2013, 11:09:25 PM
I was behind the stand at half time when you were selling Ross supporters umbrellas. Tannoy announced it just before. I needed an umbrella and enquired as to the price. 4 men were standing there at stall when I asked.
Seller in his 40's said (deadpan) ' sure what would you want one of them for, would you not want some red and white to go with the blue?" cue laughter from his mates. Didn't even say only messin they're 20quid or whatever. d**khead.
As one of about 4 Saffrons who bothered travelling I was majorly pissed off by this 'welcome' and vowed to even support mayo and Galway when they play against u forever more.
Im not even bein overly touch as he wasn't even tryin to have the Craic. Soured my first and last experience of the Hyde!
it goes without saying but u support sligo aswell ;) remember u go up we go up #deal
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 05, 2013, 03:22:03 PM
, they might of won anyway
Maybe if ye improved ye're grammar ye might get refs onside >:(
Quote from: Rossfan on February 05, 2013, 04:18:13 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 05, 2013, 03:22:03 PM
, they might of won anyway
Maybe if ye improved ye're grammar ye might get refs onside >:(
fck sake, I expect more from ye Rossies how disappointing. As ye well know I'm Irish and I was never meant to speak English as my first language so fck English grammar. 8)
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 05, 2013, 10:38:35 AM
Is there a new rule about soft penalties for Roscommon at home to Sligo? U21 final was the same, same time in the game too I think.
Whatever about last weekend you weren't even close to being in the u21 final no matter how many soft frees you did or didn't get.
Some thread this is turning out to be... 'Let's all gang up on the Rossies' should be the heading at this moment.
Quote from: Tubberman on February 05, 2013, 08:49:58 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 05, 2013, 12:50:56 AM
Quote from: Gold on February 04, 2013, 11:09:25 PM
I was behind the stand at half time when you were selling Ross supporters umbrellas. Tannoy announced it just before. I needed an umbrella and enquired as to the price. 4 men were standing there at stall when I asked.
Seller in his 40's said (deadpan) ' sure what would you want one of them for, would you not want some red and white to go with the blue?" cue laughter from his mates. Didn't even say only messin they're 20quid or whatever. d**khead.
As one of about 4 Saffrons who bothered travelling I was majorly pissed off by this 'welcome' and vowed to even support mayo and Galway when they play against u forever more.
Im not even bein overly touch as he wasn't even tryin to have the Craic. Soured my first and last experience of the Hyde!
Yes like everyone else we have a few d**kheads. I seem to remember you spent an enjoyable weekend in Roscommon town another time? you remind me of my dad, (also from the north) he once traveled to all the away games and occasionally got insulted because of his accent it shouldn't happen especially in the GAA but you will always have those with a low IQ. Those umbrella sellers wouldn't be hard to track down, we don't have that many in the supporters club a Garda is one of the founding members and he would be very disappointed to hear of that type of carry on.
Ye have a lot more than your fair share of pricks in Ros.
But there are decent fellas there as well, they're just not as loud or obnoxious as the pricks.
Says the Mayo man? Pot kettle black!
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 05, 2013, 03:22:03 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 05, 2013, 02:15:59 PM
Quote from: Rudi on February 05, 2013, 12:59:40 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 05, 2013, 10:38:35 AM
Is there a new rule about soft penalties for Roscommon at home to Sligo? U21 final was the same, same time in the game too I think.
Roscommon are part of the match fixing scam :( Hence the savage beatings by Mayo over the years.
If you were trying to argue it why not point out all the dodgy penalties Sligo have got against Roscommon. Oh yeah, I see why you didn't do that....
roscommon is a great football county but by fck they got some rub of the green against in the matches that matter, they might of won anyway no doubt but last sun that was a serious help.
I'm glad I won't see much of them this yr again bar the minor championship which we may aswell concede now as it will have Connacht ref.
In all serious IMHO the GAA is rife with match fixing at all levels. We should really get involved and buy a few Connacht titles to start with. 8)
Well maybe ye should start buying them soon enough as ye have only won 3 so far. To be honest I can't think of many matches where ye have got the rub of the green, especially from referees. You should really start a new thread to vent all your frustrations about Roscommon and stop clogging up this one with your rants.
It sure is an 'ordeal' to be in a thread with the 3rd division counties of Connacht ;D
However, I look upon our (Monaghan) stay here as temporary, a stint in purgatory before we get elevated to join our rightful place with the elite of Galway and praise the Lord if we get into the same division as Mayo. At least that's the immediate task at hand, get the hell out of here before the real rot sets in.
However I suspect the Meath men here are in a state of shock, stunned by the despairing thoughts of another season in div 3.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 05, 2013, 06:57:28 PM
Some thread this is turning out to be... 'Let's all gang up on the Rossies' should be the heading at this moment.
Indeed, looks like Div 3 is the place to be this year!!
I am going to attempt to put this thread back on it's tracks...
I see Mal O'Rourke has named the same starting line up for the Cavan game. Personally I think it's a good thing to infuse confidence in the team and help bring the lesser experienced players on. To me that was a big problem with Banty, he always reverted to this 'chosen fews' irrespective of how the replacements fared. Not a good way to promote competitiveness in the squad IMHO..
Personally, I don't think the Cavan game will be an easy one at all. They will be well up for it.. I was listening to the coverage of the Cavan v Antirm game last week and they seemed to play well in patches of that game. Get ahead with the home crowd behind you and they could inflict damage..
In saying that I'm not gonna sit on the fence however. Monaghan by 2! :)
Don't even know who we're playing next, and do you know what?
I don't care either.
I'm done with this bunch.
Cavan v Monaghan - Monaghan
Fermanagh v Roscommon - Fermanagh
Sligo v Antrim - Draw
Wicklow v Meath - Meath
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on February 08, 2013, 02:31:27 PM
I am going to attempt to put this thread back on it's tracks...
I see Mal O'Rourke has named the same starting line up for the Cavan game. Personally I think it's a good thing to infuse confidence in the team and help bring the lesser experienced players on. To me that was a big problem with Banty, he always reverted to this 'chosen fews' irrespective of how the replacements fared. Not a good way to promote competitiveness in the squad IMHO..
Personally, I don't think the Cavan game will be an easy one at all. They will be well up for it.. I was listening to the coverage of the Cavan v Antirm game last week and they seemed to play well in patches of that game. Get ahead with the home crowd behind you and they could inflict damage..
In saying that I'm not gonna sit on the fence however. Monaghan by 2! :)
I'll be surprised if the same Monaghan 15 start as did the previous game. One thing that is obvious is that the players believe in O'Rourke and believe that they can achieve something this year- you more or less have every player who should be on the squad actually on it. Eamon McEneaney didn't have that - players went to the states, opted out or were injured. It's very early days, so too soon to see if Monaghan have the back bone and substance to produce consistent results. The thrashing by Tyrone was a good thing and helped to settle the minds ahead of the Meath game. If a win is obtained against Cavan , I'll be more optimisitc that the right frame of mind is in the squad to gain promotion.
Quote from: Jinxy on February 08, 2013, 02:34:59 PM
Don't even know who we're playing next, and do you know what?
I don't care either.
I'm done with this bunch.
It's the jersey Jinxy, not the man in temporary possession of it.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on February 08, 2013, 03:25:31 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 08, 2013, 02:34:59 PM
Don't even know who we're playing next, and do you know what?
I don't care either.
I'm done with this bunch.
It's the jersey Jinxy, not the man in temporary possession of it.
Ah don't tell me some lad's stolen Meath's jerseys now?
First trophies, then balls, now they can't even keep the shirts on their backs..
Apparently it wasn't the real Meath who turned up at Clones, according to Darren Hughes
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hughes-defends-meaths-display-221746.html (http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hughes-defends-meaths-display-221746.html)
Darren promises
"They will never be that bad again."
Saturday night on Northern Sound, Cavan v Monaghan.
Who gets the microphone?
We've got some D3 match previews over on live gaelic if anyone's interested:
http://www.livegaelic.com/news/national-league-division-3-4-previews/
We'll be doing live scores as well if anyone is looking over the weekend.
Quote from: Main Street on February 08, 2013, 04:15:55 PM
Apparently it wasn't the real Meath who turned up at Clones, according to Darren Hughes
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hughes-defends-meaths-display-221746.html (http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hughes-defends-meaths-display-221746.html)
Darren promises
"They will never be that bad again."
Very generous of him. I expect a bounce back as well, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we were beaten again. It's all about attitude in my opinion, and the attitude is terrible at the minute. The team that lines out on Sunday is understrength in a big way again, not that I'll use that as an excuse. To think Meath are reduced to this ... whatever happens on Sunday, it couldn't possibly be worse.
Ah, cry us a river. Plenty of counties with better heritages than Meath have fell on hard times and plenty more will in the future.
QuoteAh, cry us a river. Plenty of counties with better heritages than Meath have fell on hard times and plenty more will in the future.
All the same the population of Meath is about Roscommon, Longford and Cavan put together and equal to the effective pick in Armagh and Tyrone put together. They should really be competing.
Quote from: Syferus on February 08, 2013, 05:53:47 PM
Ah, cry us a river. Plenty of counties with better heritages than Meath have fell on hard times and plenty more will in the future.
Don't care. We are not other counties. And as bad as things are, there is that.
Anyway to get back to the games - a big test for us in Brewster tomorrow night as those lads will be buzzing after their big win over the mountainy men last week.
No word of a team but the 2 Donies, Ward and Shine are out from last week's starting line up.
Hopefully Paddy Brogan will fill in for Ward while Cathal Shine will presumably take his namesakes place.
I'd like to see David Hoey getting a run for as long as possible and Devaney getting more time than last week.
This would be a nice one to win and sit pretty with full points waiting while the Students , the mighty Railway Cup ::) and our Co Champions take centre stage for a few weeks.
A defeat wouldn't be the end of the world but let's not contemplate that just yet.
Monaghan should bate cavan out the door. Even Meath should be able for that.
monaghan haven't been consistent they haven't won 2 in a row in the league since 2009. that said i think they will have too much for a very young cavan in what is described on HS as EL CLASSICO
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on February 08, 2013, 03:25:31 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 08, 2013, 02:34:59 PM
Don't even know who we're playing next, and do you know what?
I don't care either.
I'm done with this bunch.
It's the jersey Jinxy, not the man in temporary possession of it.
I'd sooner pay in to watch the jerseys drying on a washing line at this stage.
Quote from: Keane on February 08, 2013, 05:12:03 PM
We've got some D3 match previews over on live gaelic if anyone's interested:
http://www.livegaelic.com/news/national-league-division-3-4-previews/
We'll be doing live scores as well if anyone is looking over the weekend.
Certainly interested but you will have to do better as your preview of Cavan Monaghan has lots of errors at least from a Cavan perspective....
Cavan and Monaghan will face each other in Round 2 of the Allianz National League. This Division 2 tie takes place in Kingspan Breffni Park on Saturday night at 7pm and promises to be a lively encounter.
After having a decent Dr. McKenna Cup campaign reaching a semi final
(Cavan did not reach the semi's), Cavan will admit that they were below par in their two point loss to Antrim last Sunday. In a poor enough encounter Terry Hyland's men coughed up too much easy possession and conceded too many frees. As well as that Hyland will look for a lot more productivity from his forward division going into the Monaghan tie. They will certainly need to win the midfield battle against Monaghan if they are to get a result tomorrow night.
Meanwhile Malachy O'Rourke's men ought to be in a good frame of mind after last Sunday's destruction of Meath. It was easy to see that the Dr. McKenna Cup final loss to Mickey Harte's Tyrone didn't affect them in any way as they were excellent from start to finish hitting 1-18 and only conceding 1-2 from play to Meath. Confidence must surely be on a high in the Farney camp going into tomorrow evening's contest.
Sharing the load
As mentioned previously Cavan boss Hyland will demand more from his attacking unit and be anxious that they not leave all the work to star men Martin Dunne and Niall McKeever
(Mark McKeever or Niall McDermott, McKeever hit the 2nd goal so I presume thats who you mean) who hit 2-5 between them in the defeat to Antrim. The Breffni Blues are expected to line out similarly to last weekend so more than likely the midfield pairing of Givney and McKiernan
(Givney did not play midfield, he lined out at Full Forward) will start along side each other again. Their work-rate added with the amount of help they will get from the half forward and half back lines will determine how well Hyland's men will do come 8.30pm tomorrow night in Cavan.
Monaghan manager O'Rourke has been quite conservative with his team selection as he has stuck with more or less the same personnel throughout the McKenna Cup and into the league. Not surprisingly he has named an unchanged side from that which defeated the Royals so comprehensively last time out. Owen Lennon was named captain for 2013 during the week and talisman Tommy Freeman will be on the substitute's bench come tomorrow evening. The big performers like Dick Clerkin, Conor McManus and the industrious Darren Hughes are all expected to carry their good form into the Cavan clash and ensure another two league points for Monaghan.
The first half will be key tomorrow night. If Monaghan get a foothold in the game and dominate around the middle early on then one would worry for Hyland's men but if Cavan can hang in there till the latter stages then who knows. In saying that O'Rourke's troops have to be heavily fancied here.
Verdict: Monaghan
(You probably go this right but I hope not)
That expert verdict easily compensates for any mistakes in the article.
Significant for Monaghan in the long term is Tommy Freeman in amongst the subs for the first time this year. The annual 'Tommy has retired' rumour, bites the dust yet again.
Quote from: seafoid on February 08, 2013, 10:28:58 PM
Monaghan should bate cavan out the door. Even Meath should be able for that.
What on earth is going on in Cavan?? Where are all these great U.21 players?
Quote from: ck on February 09, 2013, 12:30:24 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 08, 2013, 10:28:58 PM
Monaghan should bate cavan out the door. Even Meath should be able for that.
What on earth is going on in Cavan?? Where are all these great U.21 players?
Problem is the scarcity of lads in their prime, age 27 to 32 or so. There are pretty much none so these young lads have no team to come into and are expected to go straight into key positions. They have to learn fast or we'll go down.
Quote from: Itchy on February 09, 2013, 12:44:25 PM
Quote from: ck on February 09, 2013, 12:30:24 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 08, 2013, 10:28:58 PM
Monaghan should bate cavan out the door. Even Meath should be able for that.
What on earth is going on in Cavan?? Where are all these great U.21 players?
Problem is the scarcity of lads in their prime, age 27 to 32 or so. There are pretty much none so these young lads have no team to come into and are expected to go straight into key positions. They have to learn fast or we'll go down.
The Rossies were in the same situation a few years ago - around the time of the mauling they got in McHale Park in 2009.
Was a harsh lesson for the players and manager who were all inexperienced at that level. They've made slow but steady progress since then.
Cavan v Monaghan - Monaghan
Fermanagh v Roscommon - Roscommon
Sligo v Antrim - Sligo
Wicklow v Meath - Meath
Quote from: Main Street on February 09, 2013, 11:20:03 AM
That expert verdict easily compensates for any mistakes in the article.
Significant for Monaghan in the long term is Tommy Freeman in amongst the subs for the first time this year. The annual 'Tommy has retired' rumour, bites the dust yet
He was on the bench last Sunday.
Quote from: cluaineois on February 08, 2013, 10:37:17 PM
monaghan haven't been consistent they haven't won 2 in a row in the league since 2009. that said i think they will have too much for a very young cavan in what is described on HS as EL CLASSICO
Thats no shame considering 2010 and 2011 was Division 1.
Quote from: upmonaghansayswe on February 09, 2013, 02:56:33 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 09, 2013, 11:20:03 AM
That expert verdict easily compensates for any mistakes in the article.
Significant for Monaghan in the long term is Tommy Freeman in amongst the subs for the first time this year. The annual 'Tommy has retired' rumour, bites the dust yet
He was on the bench last Sunday.
He must have been a late addition then, as he wasn't named in the list of subs when the team was announced on Feb1st.
Quote from: Main Street on February 09, 2013, 03:43:47 PM
Quote from: upmonaghansayswe on February 09, 2013, 02:56:33 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 09, 2013, 11:20:03 AM
That expert verdict easily compensates for any mistakes in the article.
Significant for Monaghan in the long term is Tommy Freeman in amongst the subs for the first time this year. The annual 'Tommy has retired' rumour, bites the dust yet
He was on the bench last Sunday.
He must have been a late addition then, as he wasn't named in the list of subs when the team was announced on Feb1st.
Yeah wasn't listed on the subs but did warm up. Think it was good not to bring him on, instead Jack McCarron got on and scored 2. Mind you if its getting hairy tonight I'd have no hesitations!.
Quote from: Itchy on February 09, 2013, 08:33:33 AM
Quote from: Keane on February 08, 2013, 05:12:03 PM
We've got some D3 match previews over on live gaelic if anyone's interested:
http://www.livegaelic.com/news/national-league-division-3-4-previews/
We'll be doing live scores as well if anyone is looking over the weekend.
Certainly interested but you will have to do better as your preview of Cavan Monaghan has lots of errors at least from a Cavan perspective....
Cavan and Monaghan will face each other in Round 2 of the Allianz National League. This Division 2 tie takes place in Kingspan Breffni Park on Saturday night at 7pm and promises to be a lively encounter.
After having a decent Dr. McKenna Cup campaign reaching a semi final (Cavan did not reach the semi's), Cavan will admit that they were below par in their two point loss to Antrim last Sunday. In a poor enough encounter Terry Hyland's men coughed up too much easy possession and conceded too many frees. As well as that Hyland will look for a lot more productivity from his forward division going into the Monaghan tie. They will certainly need to win the midfield battle against Monaghan if they are to get a result tomorrow night.
Meanwhile Malachy O'Rourke's men ought to be in a good frame of mind after last Sunday's destruction of Meath. It was easy to see that the Dr. McKenna Cup final loss to Mickey Harte's Tyrone didn't affect them in any way as they were excellent from start to finish hitting 1-18 and only conceding 1-2 from play to Meath. Confidence must surely be on a high in the Farney camp going into tomorrow evening's contest.
Sharing the load
As mentioned previously Cavan boss Hyland will demand more from his attacking unit and be anxious that they not leave all the work to star men Martin Dunne and Niall McKeever (Mark McKeever or Niall McDermott, McKeever hit the 2nd goal so I presume thats who you mean) who hit 2-5 between them in the defeat to Antrim. The Breffni Blues are expected to line out similarly to last weekend so more than likely the midfield pairing of Givney and McKiernan (Givney did not play midfield, he lined out at Full Forward) will start along side each other again. Their work-rate added with the amount of help they will get from the half forward and half back lines will determine how well Hyland's men will do come 8.30pm tomorrow night in Cavan.
Monaghan manager O'Rourke has been quite conservative with his team selection as he has stuck with more or less the same personnel throughout the McKenna Cup and into the league. Not surprisingly he has named an unchanged side from that which defeated the Royals so comprehensively last time out. Owen Lennon was named captain for 2013 during the week and talisman Tommy Freeman will be on the substitute's bench come tomorrow evening. The big performers like Dick Clerkin, Conor McManus and the industrious Darren Hughes are all expected to carry their good form into the Cavan clash and ensure another two league points for Monaghan.
The first half will be key tomorrow night. If Monaghan get a foothold in the game and dominate around the middle early on then one would worry for Hyland's men but if Cavan can hang in there till the latter stages then who knows. In saying that O'Rourke's troops have to be heavily fancied here.
Verdict: Monaghan (You probably go this right but I hope not)
Division 2?!
Not even the prediction saved that article, Cavan run out easy winners.
I think they managed to finish the game with a man extra, 13 v 12.
This game no longer makes sense. Anybody watching Cavan v Monaghan? What in the name of God happened?
Quote from: Ard-Rí on February 09, 2013, 08:42:32 PM
This game no longer makes sense. Anybody watching Cavan v Monaghan? What in the name of God happened?
You mean the red cards/ diving Cavan f'ckers/gullible ref or what Nudie Hughes says 'we picked the wrong night to turn up in Cavan'?
All of the above. How did Cavan manage to win so convincingly?
Quote from: Main Street on February 09, 2013, 08:44:45 PM
Quote from: Ard-Rí on February 09, 2013, 08:42:32 PM
This game no longer makes sense. Anybody watching Cavan v Monaghan? What in the name of God happened?
You mean the red cards/ diving Cavan f'ckers/gullible ref or what Nudie Hughes says 'we picked the wrong night to turn up in Cavan'?
From someone who was at it there was only one team diving and that was Monaghan, such a bunch of tramps I've never seen the like of. I hope ye enjoyed the medicine ye got for it.
Quote from: Main Street on February 09, 2013, 08:44:45 PM
Quote from: Ard-Rí on February 09, 2013, 08:42:32 PM
This game no longer makes sense. Anybody watching Cavan v Monaghan? What in the name of God happened?
You mean the red cards/ diving Cavan f'ckers/gullible ref or what Nudie Hughes says 'we picked the wrong night to turn up in Cavan'?
Ah yes indeed, pipped by eight last minute points, as bad as things have been over the last 50 years there remains the spectre of the whinging mushroom picker to make life appear just bearable.
(http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab56/declanrice/403_zps8818671d.jpg?t=1360443709)
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 09, 2013, 05:08:03 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 09, 2013, 08:33:33 AM
Quote from: Keane on February 08, 2013, 05:12:03 PM
We've got some D3 match previews over on live gaelic if anyone's interested:
http://www.livegaelic.com/news/national-league-division-3-4-previews/
We'll be doing live scores as well if anyone is looking over the weekend.
Certainly interested but you will have to do better as your preview of Cavan Monaghan has lots of errors at least from a Cavan perspective....
Cavan and Monaghan will face each other in Round 2 of the Allianz National League. This Division 2 tie takes place in Kingspan Breffni Park on Saturday night at 7pm and promises to be a lively encounter.
After having a decent Dr. McKenna Cup campaign reaching a semi final (Cavan did not reach the semi's), Cavan will admit that they were below par in their two point loss to Antrim last Sunday. In a poor enough encounter Terry Hyland's men coughed up too much easy possession and conceded too many frees. As well as that Hyland will look for a lot more productivity from his forward division going into the Monaghan tie. They will certainly need to win the midfield battle against Monaghan if they are to get a result tomorrow night.
Meanwhile Malachy O'Rourke's men ought to be in a good frame of mind after last Sunday's destruction of Meath. It was easy to see that the Dr. McKenna Cup final loss to Mickey Harte's Tyrone didn't affect them in any way as they were excellent from start to finish hitting 1-18 and only conceding 1-2 from play to Meath. Confidence must surely be on a high in the Farney camp going into tomorrow evening's contest.
Sharing the load
As mentioned previously Cavan boss Hyland will demand more from his attacking unit and be anxious that they not leave all the work to star men Martin Dunne and Niall McKeever (Mark McKeever or Niall McDermott, McKeever hit the 2nd goal so I presume thats who you mean) who hit 2-5 between them in the defeat to Antrim. The Breffni Blues are expected to line out similarly to last weekend so more than likely the midfield pairing of Givney and McKiernan (Givney did not play midfield, he lined out at Full Forward) will start along side each other again. Their work-rate added with the amount of help they will get from the half forward and half back lines will determine how well Hyland's men will do come 8.30pm tomorrow night in Cavan.
Monaghan manager O'Rourke has been quite conservative with his team selection as he has stuck with more or less the same personnel throughout the McKenna Cup and into the league. Not surprisingly he has named an unchanged side from that which defeated the Royals so comprehensively last time out. Owen Lennon was named captain for 2013 during the week and talisman Tommy Freeman will be on the substitute's bench come tomorrow evening. The big performers like Dick Clerkin, Conor McManus and the industrious Darren Hughes are all expected to carry their good form into the Cavan clash and ensure another two league points for Monaghan.
The first half will be key tomorrow night. If Monaghan get a foothold in the game and dominate around the middle early on then one would worry for Hyland's men but if Cavan can hang in there till the latter stages then who knows. In saying that O'Rourke's troops have to be heavily fancied here.
Verdict: Monaghan (You probably go this right but I hope not)
Division 2?!
Yeah, best of luck with that Maguire!!
ps. how did that eejet Dick Clerkin last on the field,! Always good to beat the mushroom men ;D
I was expecting more from Monaghan, but fckn hell ye are limited! Meath really did have an off day!
Its not all bad for Monaghan, most of them got home nice and early.
Brutal performance from Monaghan - cant explain it at all. Cavan could have been far further ahead by half time. Referee was terrible as well - stopping the game constantly, inconsistent... not that he made any difference to the outcome.
Div 3 opened right up now.
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 09, 2013, 09:13:00 PM
I was expecting more from Monaghan, but fckn hell ye are limited! Meath really did have an off day!
Here's a thought - maybe Monaghan had an off day today.
On that topic, feckin' God.
For Pete's sake.
Etc.
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 09, 2013, 09:16:33 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 09, 2013, 09:13:00 PM
I was expecting more from Monaghan, but fckn hell ye are limited! Meath really did have an off day!
Here's a thought - maybe Monaghan had an off day today.
Nudie says they picked the wrong day to go to Cavan according to an earlier post. Maybe Cavan are just better when the usual cynical stuff ye try doesn't work?
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 09, 2013, 09:16:33 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 09, 2013, 09:13:00 PM
I was expecting more from Monaghan, but fckn hell ye are limited! Meath really did have an off day!
Here's a thought - maybe Monaghan had an off day today.
Every second game so, hammered in the Mckenna Cup final by a half string Tyrone side. But if Monaghan go up, we'll say it was an off day...
Well done to Fermanagh a big win that should have been a lot bigger than it was. A bad night for us hopefully we can recover.. :-\
Same old sh*t no consistency cavan were hungrier. possibly we were too complacent . ref didn't help as he did his best to prevent a game breaking out . Straight red for MC manus wont help our cause for the rest of the league . That said well done cavan (ye have no idea how difficult it is to type that)
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 09, 2013, 09:22:34 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 09, 2013, 09:16:33 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 09, 2013, 09:13:00 PM
I was expecting more from Monaghan, but fckn hell ye are limited! Meath really did have an off day!
Here's a thought - maybe Monaghan had an off day today.
Every second game so, hammered in the Mckenna Cup final by a half string Tyrone side. But if Monaghan go up, we'll say it was an off day...
Fair play to Cavan . Now meath- wicklow is a relegation 4 pointer!
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 09, 2013, 09:22:34 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 09, 2013, 09:16:33 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 09, 2013, 09:13:00 PM
I was expecting more from Monaghan, but fckn hell ye are limited! Meath really did have an off day!
Here's a thought - maybe Monaghan had an off day today.
Every second game so, hammered in the Mckenna Cup final by a half string Tyrone side. But if Monaghan go up, we'll say it was an off day...
Our starting 15 should normally be very reliable, but we don't have anyone on the bench to replace McManus or Finlay.
I wouldn't read too much into the Tyrone game, given the conditions, the nature of the goals and the fact that it was the McKenna cup... although we did win 4 games in a row to reach the final.
Was it a killing match tonight lads?? How did Barry Cassidy get on reffing it??
Wtf, just in and I'm in shock. fairvplay to cavan and fermanagh. cavan beat us last yr in brefni and can on their day rattle good sides over. Good results for us if we can turn Antrim over tomorrow. Good luck sligo...
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 09, 2013, 11:11:48 PM
Was it a killing match tonight lads?? How did Barry Cassidy get on reffing it??
He was brutal.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 09, 2013, 11:11:48 PM
Was it a killing match tonight lads?? How did Barry Cassidy get on reffing it??
no it wasnt a killing match or anything close. Ref lost the run of himself with some very strange cards and if he had been consistent we might have been left with the two keepers kicking the ball out to one another.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 09, 2013, 11:11:48 PM
Was it a killing match tonight lads?? How did Barry Cassidy get on reffing it??
Far from a killing match,a lot of play acting,though i didn't see what Mc Manus or Dunne did to get their reds so maybe they deserved it. The one player that definitely should have walked was Dick Clerkin but the ref gave him countless chances despite a number of bookable offences after already receiving a yellow, one of which was identical to the challenge Mc Cutcheon got a straight red for :o
So to put it simply-the ref was awful.
Fantastic result for us tonight. Sean Quigley was excellent. Seems to be stepping up this year and developing into the forward Fermanagh really need. Defence was very sound and we have a system that is very hard for the opposition to break down. 2 wins in the first 2 games is a great start. Definitely moving in the right direction.
Ref had a stinker, martin dunne was stupid for his sending off , slap in the face in front of the ref. - off the ball incident,
Couldn't believe Clerkin lasted the match, 2 late incidents 5 yards from the ref went unnoticed. He wasn't even booked during the game ::)
You sure rodney? I was sure Clerkin was booked ??? Though it was hard to keep track
He might have been, must have been quick flashing the yellow. He is either good mates with Clerkin or he felt bad sending off 3 Monaghan lads, any other day Dick would have been getting the line.
At least Cavan won, pity there is a 3 week break now, Cavan would be on a high going to Navan, 3 week break stops the momentum as they say.
When Cavan have everyone fit like Eugene Keating, Barry Reilly, James McEnroe, Ronan Flanagan, There is a strong look to the team.
Dunne will be a loss , for the Meath game, he had been showing well before his red card. Thought Mackey had a excellent game, picking up ball, spraying some nice balls into Jack Brady. Giveny was very good at full forward. Alan Clark was very solid and got a good score, Good all round team performance. McKeever worked hard, putting in some good tackles and ran at the Monaghan defence, used the ball well.
Rory Dunne must have picked up a knock, because i couldn't see why else he would have been taken off.
Only one win, but its a lift from the negative talk..
Quote from: beer baron on February 09, 2013, 11:31:27 PM
You sure rodney? I was sure Clerkin was booked ??? Though it was hard to keep track
He was booked. Although just about everyone, bar the keepers, was booked.
Dire performance from our boys last night as we muddled, fuddled, handpoked the ball to oblivion and let Fermanagh run through us at will.
The couple of rare occasions we let the ball go direct we got about 1-4 off it.
Finneran's late goal flattered us totally as we desrved a lot more than a 6 point reverse.
Serious work required on fitness, conditioning, game plan, tactics, players understanding the whole point of the game, learning to defend and so on and so on.
Realistically best we can hope for is to hang on to D3 status and hopefully by the time we enter the Championship - 16th June- we will have improved enough to be able to compete and produce a performance or two.
Jasus but the mountain looks very high at this point in time. :o :-\
Well done to Fermanagh who have a game plan, fitness and drive about them and a very nice crowd of people all told (maybe with the exception of those plonks who have the Butchers Aprons stuck on poles around Coleshill )
Try to make sense of this.
Sligo against the wind are 1-8 to 0-4 up at ht.
sligo are with the wind 2nd half and scrape a win against 13man Antrim by 1-12 to 0-13. Effectively lost 2nd half 9-4 with 2man advantage and wind....
The positive is we won a vital game, as we have 2tough games coming up away to Monaghan and Meath, will do well to get anything out of either...
Fermanagh well coached and drilled should have won the game by 12 points. Very good swarm defence. Roscommon with poor backwards passing were static and only times they got scores was when they played direct quick ball, beating the swarm defence. Nice venue with a great atmosphere. Fermanagh people I met were lovely decent people, fair play and best wishes for the rest of campaign. Look a good side.
Not sure how many of our lads on here are still following Meath football, but we did manage to win today. Of course the good of today's win is overshadowed a bit by the game against Monaghan, and the effective capitulation therein. Even so, we've something to look to going forward and it's nice to see the lads correct the failings of last week. I hope the lesson in complacency has been well learnt because there are games coming up that will be anything but easy, even at home. League is still there for the winning too.
(http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab56/declanrice/404_zpsd153fb44.jpg?t=1360524849)
Up the Ros, down with the Trimmers. Just about.
We've learnt almost nothing from the first two rounds besides Fermanagh being closer to to a promotion chaser than a relegation dodger. Seven teams left in the race for the two top slots.
Quote from: Syferus on February 10, 2013, 07:53:34 PM
Up the Ros, down with the Trimmers. Just about.
We've learnt almost nothing from the first two rounds besides Fermanagh being closer to to a promotion chaser than a relegation dodger. Seven teams left in the race for the two top slots.
Thought you would have learned that ye are facing the drop with Wicklow!!!
This league is wide open. Next round is on 2/3 march...
Meath v Cavan
Antrim v Fermanagh
Roscommon v Wicklow
Monaghan v Sligo
I reckon there will be 5 teams joint top on 4 points after that round
Division 3 is always the tightest Division of the NFL.
The real League begins in March as the late starters will have upped their fitness levels ( hopefully in our case :-[).
All to play for as they say.
Quote from: Itchy on February 09, 2013, 08:49:20 PM
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Quote from: Ard-Rí on February 09, 2013, 08:42:32 PM
This game no longer makes sense. Anybody watching Cavan v Monaghan? What in the name of God happened?
You mean the red cards/ diving Cavan f'ckers/gullible ref or what Nudie Hughes says 'we picked the wrong night to turn up in Cavan'?
From someone who was at it there was only one team diving and that was Monaghan, such a bunch of tramps I've never seen the like of. I hope ye enjoyed the medicine ye got for it.
Ach now Itch, you're getting a bit carried away with the tramps talk. This goes down as one of the worst matches I've ever attended. Cavan got under the Monaghan men's skin, were up for it more, blanketed the defence á la Donegal against Dublin '12 and targetted McManus and Hughes. When McManus reacted and was sent off there wasn't a Plan B. Monaghan were caught in the long grass and weren't good enough to meet the challenge, even when cleaning up in midfield in the 3rd quarter. Fair dues to Cavan, the end justifies the means and there were some very good displays, in particular from McKeever and Mackey.
And there was diving, by both sides and it's horrible to see. The weather wasn't conducive to silky skills but there were so many wides, fumbles, missed passes (mostly by Monaghan), that you'd be forgiven for thinking it was a Junior Z match.
The ref had a difficult job given the conditions but he didn't come close to being inter-county standard.
He didn't favour one side more than the other, but his calls were wrong more often than right. It was beginning to look we were going to have an early Kilmacud 7s towards the end.
Quote from: babarino on February 10, 2013, 11:35:47 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 09, 2013, 08:49:20 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 09, 2013, 08:44:45 PM
Quote from: Ard-Rí on February 09, 2013, 08:42:32 PM
This game no longer makes sense. Anybody watching Cavan v Monaghan? What in the name of God happened?
You mean the red cards/ diving Cavan f'ckers/gullible ref or what Nudie Hughes says 'we picked the wrong night to turn up in Cavan'?
From someone who was at it there was only one team diving and that was Monaghan, such a bunch of tramps I've never seen the like of. I hope ye enjoyed the medicine ye got for it.
Ach now Itch, you're getting a bit carried away with the tramps talk. This goes down as one of the worst matches I've ever attended. Cavan got under the Monaghan men's skin, were up for it more, blanketed the defence á la Donegal against Dublin '12 and targetted McManus and Hughes. When McManus reacted and was sent off there wasn't a Plan B. Monaghan were caught in the long grass and weren't good enough to meet the challenge, even when cleaning up in midfield in the 3rd quarter. Fair dues to Cavan, the end justifies the means and there were some very good displays, in particular from McKeever and Mackey.
And there was diving, by both sides and it's horrible to see. The weather wasn't conducive to silky skills but there were so many wides, fumbles, missed passes (mostly by Monaghan), that you'd be forgiven for thinking it was a Junior Z match.
The ref had a difficult job given the conditions but he didn't come close to being inter-county standard. He didn't favour one side more than the other, but his calls were wrong more often than right. It was beginning to look we were going to have an early Kilmacud 7s towards the end.
You might have a point if it were not for the fact that Monaghan have form for this sort of thing. They are the Russell Crowe of the GAA!
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 10, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
Try to make sense of this.
Sligo against the wind are 1-8 to 0-4 up at ht.
sligo are with the wind 2nd half and scrape a win against 13man Antrim by 1-12 to 0-13. Effectively lost 2nd half 9-4 with 2man advantage and wind....
The positive is we won a vital game, as we have 2tough games coming up away to Monaghan and Meath, will do well to get anything out of either...
Struggling to find any detailed report on this one. Don't suppose anyone knows the team selection, scorers, good/bad performances etc?
Did McIntyre and gilmartin start midfield? Any info would be appreciated
Cheers
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2013, 11:31:16 AM
You might have a point if it were not for the fact that Monaghan have form for this sort of thing. They are the Russell Crowe of the GAA!
Down with this sort of thing! And what sort of thing would that be Myles? Give us the facts. Has McManus ever been booked before, let alone get a straight red card?
This sort of thing...
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/derry-and-monaghan-brawl-a-disgrace-28480828.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDQoWEfeX7s
Quote from: Sligomanabroad on February 11, 2013, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 10, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
Try to make sense of this.
Sligo against the wind are 1-8 to 0-4 up at ht.
sligo are with the wind 2nd half and scrape a win against 13man Antrim by 1-12 to 0-13. Effectively lost 2nd half 9-4 with 2man advantage and wind....
The positive is we won a vital game, as we have 2tough games coming up away to Monaghan and Meath, will do well to get anything out of either...
Struggling to find any detailed report on this one. Don't suppose anyone knows the team selection, scorers, good/bad performances etc?
Did McIntyre and gilmartin start midfield? Any info would be appreciated
Cheers
From what I understand the named Sligo team (which snuffed out any remaining hope/desire for me to acutally go to the game) was considerably changed before the start. According to Sligo Weekender's report (http://sligoweekender.ie/2013/02/10/sligo-work-hard-to-overcome-antrim/) the starting lineup was: P Greene, N Ewing (0-1), J Martyn, C Harrison, M Quinn, R Donovan, B Curran (0-1), S Gilmartin, A McIntyre, S McManus, J Clarke (0-1), P Hughes (1-0), M Breheny (0-4, 2f), A Marren (0-4, 2f), N Murphy (0-1). Subs used: F Quinn for J Clarke, 50; B Egan for N Murphy, 60. Sligogaa's twitter listed the starting lineup as follows: Greene, Donovan, Martyn, Harrison, Ewing, McIntyre, Quinn, Gilmartin, McManus, Curran, Hughes, Breheny, Marren, Clarke, Murphy.
So as clear as mud then! At least we won. I think the 8 teams in this division are fighting relegation until they get to 8 points.
That's a fair and balanced assessment of the game babarino; I'd have to agree with you.
One of the worst games of football I've ever endured and both teams contributed to the farce in equal measure. Cavan were better and hungrier and deserved their win, so no complaints about the result. The ref was atrocious; he didn't favour one team or the other or affect the outcome of the game, he was just generally incompetent. Both teams were guilty of diving, fouling and play acting. I do think Cavan singled out Darren Hughes and Conor McManus for special attention and you'd have to grudgingly acknowledge that it worked for them; they had their homework done. All Darren's attempts to break forward were stopped at source (by questionable means at times). Unfortunately it seems Conor took the bait; I didn't see the incident but from what I've heard it was a watery slap, but I suppose a slap is a slap. Generally it's a game I want to erase from my mind as quickly as possible.
We're not as good as the Meath display would indicate but hopefully we're not as bad as last Saturday would indicate either. McManus will be missed; we're very short on scoring forwards. We'll need to get Tommy Freeman fit and firing as I can't see where enough scores will come from. It's turning into an interesting division.
Myles, please stop talking through your hole. What have your links got to do with the game last Saturday? By all means debate the actual events of the game; however if all you have to offer are references to the past and lazy generalisations then you really have nothing to contribute to the discussion. ::)
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 11, 2013, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: Sligomanabroad on February 11, 2013, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 10, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
Try to make sense of this.
Sligo against the wind are 1-8 to 0-4 up at ht.
sligo are with the wind 2nd half and scrape a win against 13man Antrim by 1-12 to 0-13. Effectively lost 2nd half 9-4 with 2man advantage and wind....
The positive is we won a vital game, as we have 2tough games coming up away to Monaghan and Meath, will do well to get anything out of either...
Struggling to find any detailed report on this one. Don't suppose anyone knows the team selection, scorers, good/bad performances etc?
Did McIntyre and gilmartin start midfield? Any info would be appreciated
Cheers
From what I understand the named Sligo team (which snuffed out any remaining hope/desire for me to acutally go to the game) was considerably changed before the start. According to Sligo Weekender's report (http://sligoweekender.ie/2013/02/10/sligo-work-hard-to-overcome-antrim/) the starting lineup was: P Greene, N Ewing (0-1), J Martyn, C Harrison, M Quinn, R Donovan, B Curran (0-1), S Gilmartin, A McIntyre, S McManus, J Clarke (0-1), P Hughes (1-0), M Breheny (0-4, 2f), A Marren (0-4, 2f), N Murphy (0-1). Subs used: F Quinn for J Clarke, 50; B Egan for N Murphy, 60. Sligogaa's twitter listed the starting lineup as follows: Greene, Donovan, Martyn, Harrison, Ewing, McIntyre, Quinn, Gilmartin, McManus, Curran, Hughes, Breheny, Marren, Clarke, Murphy.
So as clear as mud then! At least we won. I think the 8 teams in this division are fighting relegation until they get to 8 points.
That's it in a nutshell. All teams will be hoping to get to 8 points and be safe.
When you get there, another win or two and you could get promoted.
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 11, 2013, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: Sligomanabroad on February 11, 2013, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 10, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
Try to make sense of this.
Sligo against the wind are 1-8 to 0-4 up at ht.
sligo are with the wind 2nd half and scrape a win against 13man Antrim by 1-12 to 0-13. Effectively lost 2nd half 9-4 with 2man advantage and wind....
The positive is we won a vital game, as we have 2tough games coming up away to Monaghan and Meath, will do well to get anything out of either...
Struggling to find any detailed report on this one. Don't suppose anyone knows the team selection, scorers, good/bad performances etc?
Did McIntyre and gilmartin start midfield? Any info would be appreciated
Cheers
From what I understand the named Sligo team (which snuffed out any remaining hope/desire for me to acutally go to the game) was considerably changed before the start. According to Sligo Weekender's report (http://sligoweekender.ie/2013/02/10/sligo-work-hard-to-overcome-antrim/) the starting lineup was: P Greene, N Ewing (0-1), J Martyn, C Harrison, M Quinn, R Donovan, B Curran (0-1), S Gilmartin, A McIntyre, S McManus, J Clarke (0-1), P Hughes (1-0), M Breheny (0-4, 2f), A Marren (0-4, 2f), N Murphy (0-1). Subs used: F Quinn for J Clarke, 50; B Egan for N Murphy, 60. Sligogaa's twitter listed the starting lineup as follows: Greene, Donovan, Martyn, Harrison, Ewing, McIntyre, Quinn, Gilmartin, McManus, Curran, Hughes, Breheny, Marren, Clarke, Murphy.
So as clear as mud then! At least we won. I think the 8 teams in this division are fighting relegation until they get to 8 points.
the twitter team is right line up, 2pts what it's all about.
Give me a break, McManus was sent off inside 5 minutes. He didn't take much winding up from a lad just out of U21!!!
Cavans two straight reds were because of Monaghan men feigning injury and the ref evening things up/combined with some good diving in the case of Dunne and falling for the theatrics in the case of McCutcheon. Even Nudie Hughes on Northern Sound admitted as much.
Ye can dish it out but ye can't take it even in small measures as usual. Suck it up!
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2013, 03:23:24 PM
Give me a break, McManus was sent off inside 5 minutes. He didn't take much winding up from a lad just out of U21!!!
Cavans two straight reds were because of Monaghan men feigning injury and the ref evening things up/combined with some good diving in the case of Dunne and falling for the theatrics in the case of McCutcheon. Even Nudie Hughes on Northern Sound admitted as much.
Ye can dish it out but ye can't take it even in small measures as usual. Suck it up!
Interesting.........
Regarding the McManus incident it would appear there was a bit of handbags in front of the goal and then McManus threw a dig. I've heard since that it was a watery one. Anyway, down went the Cavan man like he'd been shot and he stayed on the ground for the duration it took the ref to run up from the other end of the field, consult with his umpires and send McManus off.
Miraculously, the Cavan man was then able to get up and continue!!!
And yet you would have us believe Monaghan were the instigators of all that was bad and Cavan were whiter than white???
FFS, quit talking shite. They were as bad as each other.
Division 3 seems to be the home of rage and depression. At least we're known for something.
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Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2013, 03:23:24 PM
Give me a break, McManus was sent off inside 5 minutes. He didn't take much winding up from a lad just out of U21!!!
Cavans two straight reds were because of Monaghan men feigning injury and the ref evening things up/combined with some good diving in the case of Dunne and falling for the theatrics in the case of McCutcheon. Even Nudie Hughes on Northern Sound admitted as much.
Ye can dish it out but ye can't take it even in small measures as usual. Suck it up!
Interesting.........
Regarding the McManus incident it would appear there was a bit of handbags in front of the goal and then McManus threw a dig. I've heard since that it was a watery one. Anyway, down went the Cavan man like he'd been shot and he stayed on the ground for the duration it took the ref to run up from the other end of the field, consult with his umpires and send McManus off.
Miraculously, the Cavan man was then able to get up and continue!!!
And yet you would have us believe Monaghan were the instigators of all that was bad and Cavan were whiter than white???
FFS, quit talking shite. They were as bad as each other.
McManus struck him infront of the umpires, easily spotted by them. If it was so watery I'm sure they would have told the ref. Cavan have no form for this sort of stuff and were so much better on Saturday than Monaghan so would have no need to be at this. At the end of the day ye benefited from the diving, feigning injury since you had a man extra for more than 20 minutes, we had an advantage for a few mins at the start and the less than 10 mins when the game was over. Like I said, the country knows the "brand" of football you boys play as per my links above. Call it shite or not.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2013, 03:23:24 PM
Give me a break, McManus was sent off inside 5 minutes.
It was 11 minutes.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2013, 03:23:24 PM
He didn't take much winding up from a lad just out of U21!!!
He turns 25 this year - how long do they play U21 in Cavan?
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2013, 05:19:07 PM
McManus struck him infront of the umpires, easily spotted by them. If it was so watery I'm sure they would have told the ref.
Ah yes, the umpires - you can always rely on them to get it right. Also, I can't remember McManus
ever getting a red card - happy to be corrected, but this was totally out of character. And you think that "Monaghan benefited from the diving, feigning injury" - if Monaghan players managed to fool the ref, then could your defender not conceivably have done likewise?
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2013, 05:19:07 PM
Cavan have no form for this sort of stuff and were so much better on Saturday than Monaghan so would have no need to be at this.
They were significantly better. But i'd like to have seen the game with McManus playing for 70 minutes to see just what impact his sending off had. I don't know the Cavan team that well, so i'm not sure if the players you lost are as critical in your team as McManus is in ours. We scored 1 point in 40 minutes - by McManus before he was sent off.
At the end of the day, Cavan were undoubtedly the better team on Saturday night and deserved to win. But some of what you're posting is rubbish.
I wasn't expecting a bad atmosphere like this down here.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2013, 03:23:24 PM
Give me a break, McManus was sent off inside 5 minutes. He didn't take much winding up from a lad just out of U21!!!
Cavans two straight reds were because of Monaghan men feigning injury and the ref evening things up/combined with some good diving in the case of Dunne and falling for the theatrics in the case of McCutcheon. Even Nudie Hughes on Northern Sound admitted as much.
Ye can dish it out but ye can't take it even in small measures as usual. Suck it up!
Jaysus Myles, get your facts right. Cavan were by far the better team, Dunne raised his hand thats an automatic red card. Why did you think McManus was out of u21, he has been playing with Monaghan seniors a few years at this stage.
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 11, 2013, 06:44:04 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2013, 03:23:24 PM
Give me a break, McManus was sent off inside 5 minutes. He didn't take much winding up from a lad just out of U21!!!
Cavans two straight reds were because of Monaghan men feigning injury and the ref evening things up/combined with some good diving in the case of Dunne and falling for the theatrics in the case of McCutcheon. Even Nudie Hughes on Northern Sound admitted as much.
Ye can dish it out but ye can't take it even in small measures as usual. Suck it up!
Jaysus Myles, get your facts right. Cavan were by far the better team, Dunne raised his hand thats an automatic red card. Why did you think McManus was out of u21, he has been playing with Monaghan seniors a few years at this stage.
He doesn't not that it has any relevance anyway, the whining on this thread is a bit childish lads.
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 11, 2013, 06:44:04 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2013, 03:23:24 PM
Give me a break, McManus was sent off inside 5 minutes. He didn't take much winding up from a lad just out of U21!!!
Cavans two straight reds were because of Monaghan men feigning injury and the ref evening things up/combined with some good diving in the case of Dunne and falling for the theatrics in the case of McCutcheon. Even Nudie Hughes on Northern Sound admitted as much.
Ye can dish it out but ye can't take it even in small measures as usual. Suck it up!
Jaysus Myles, get your facts right. Cavan were by far the better team, Dunne raised his hand thats an automatic red card. Why did you think McManus was out of u21, he has been playing with Monaghan seniors a few years at this stage.
Where does it say that in rule book, its not soccer Rodney although Monaghan lads were diving around like premier league prima donnas
Quote from: Itchy on February 11, 2013, 07:12:06 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 11, 2013, 06:44:04 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2013, 03:23:24 PM
Give me a break, McManus was sent off inside 5 minutes. He didn't take much winding up from a lad just out of U21!!!
Cavans two straight reds were because of Monaghan men feigning injury and the ref evening things up/combined with some good diving in the case of Dunne and falling for the theatrics in the case of McCutcheon. Even Nudie Hughes on Northern Sound admitted as much.
Ye can dish it out but ye can't take it even in small measures as usual. Suck it up!
Jaysus Myles, get your facts right. Cavan were by far the better team, Dunne raised his hand thats an automatic red card. Why did you think McManus was out of u21, he has been playing with Monaghan seniors a few years at this stage.
Where does it say that in rule book, its not soccer Rodney although Monaghan lads were diving around like premier league prima donnas
Huh? Dunne striked Walshe on the face, that is making contact. Ask any referee and they will tell you Itchy its a red card. Wether he dived on the ground afterwards in irrelevent, once you strike you walk the line
Quote from: tommysmith on February 11, 2013, 07:05:21 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 11, 2013, 06:44:04 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2013, 03:23:24 PM
Give me a break, McManus was sent off inside 5 minutes. He didn't take much winding up from a lad just out of U21!!!
Cavans two straight reds were because of Monaghan men feigning injury and the ref evening things up/combined with some good diving in the case of Dunne and falling for the theatrics in the case of McCutcheon. Even Nudie Hughes on Northern Sound admitted as much.
Ye can dish it out but ye can't take it even in small measures as usual. Suck it up!
Jaysus Myles, get your facts right. Cavan were by far the better team, Dunne raised his hand thats an automatic red card. Why did you think McManus was out of u21, he has been playing with Monaghan seniors a few years at this stage.
He doesn't not that it has any relevance anyway, the whining on this thread is a bit childish lads.
Yes he did - He didn't take much winding up from a lad just out of U21
McManus hit Killian Brady (at least I think it was Brady) and brady was u21 last year. Is that not what Myles said.
Yeah, think your right.
Keep this Cavan/Monaghan crap up much longer and we'll be all asking for ye to be moved to a different division >:(
Ye have to have a bit of dignity in D3 you know.
How long have Ros been in D3?
Quote from: Itchy on February 11, 2013, 08:27:00 PM
McManus hit Killian Brady (at least I think it was Brady) and brady was u21 last year. Is that not what Myles said.
Maybe - I read it another way. Although I don't understand what his age has to do with it.
Quote from: Rossfan on February 11, 2013, 08:42:33 PM
Keep this Cavan/Monaghan crap up much longer and we'll be all asking for ye to be moved to a different division >:(
Ye have to have a bit of dignity in D3 you know.
your right rossfan . hopefully we are only here on a temporary basis and will be going up this year. with any luck cavan will be going down and ye can keep division 3 nice and quiet after that :)
Quote from: Syferus on February 11, 2013, 04:16:55 PM
Division 3 seems to be the home of rage and depression. At least we're known for something.
When I read your username I always say syphilis in my head. No offence :)
Quote from: Itchy on February 11, 2013, 09:44:26 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 11, 2013, 04:16:55 PM
Division 3 seems to be the home of rage and depression. At least we're known for something.
When I read your username I always say syphilis in my head. No offence :)
When I read your username I always think 'arse' in my head. No offence
...:)
Well I often have an itchy arse so that's ok. Have you ever had syphilis?
Anyway, I do hope Cavan and Monaghan are in different leagues next year as they'd be awful miserable if he gave that hammering again.
Quote from: Rossfan on February 11, 2013, 08:42:33 PM
Keep this Cavan/Monaghan crap up much longer and we'll be all asking for ye to be moved to a different division >:(
Ye have to have a bit of dignity in D3 you know.
Its bad losers and bad winners.
Quote from: Itchy on February 11, 2013, 10:06:31 PM
Well I often have an itchy arse so that's ok. Have you ever had syphilis?
Anyway, I do hope Cavan and Monaghan are in different leagues next year as they'd be awful miserable if he gave that hammering again.
Isn't ok get some arse cream for it.
Sudocrem should do the job
I'm truly touched by all your concern about my arse but back to football and leaving our fabulous defeat of the mushroom men aside another enjoyable match awaits against the men from Meath.
Quote from: Itchy on February 11, 2013, 08:27:00 PM
McManus hit Killian Brady (at least I think it was Brady) and brady was u21 last year. Is that not what Myles said.
Correct!
Quote from: Sligomanabroad on February 11, 2013, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 10, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
Try to make sense of this.
Sligo against the wind are 1-8 to 0-4 up at ht.
sligo are with the wind 2nd half and scrape a win against 13man Antrim by 1-12 to 0-13. Effectively lost 2nd half 9-4 with 2man advantage and wind....
The positive is we won a vital game, as we have 2tough games coming up away to Monaghan and Meath, will do well to get anything out of either...
Struggling to find any detailed report on this one. Don't suppose anyone knows the team selection, scorers, good/bad performances etc?
Did McIntyre and gilmartin start midfield? Any info would be appreciated
Cheers
Sligomanabroad - based on your username you might want to check out ocean fm who usually stream the games live. However this past sunday was a nightmare as they decided to speak to some clowns at the sligo park hotel about sponge cake, biscuits, djs and wedding chair covers when Antrim were making a big comeback. I almost went off the head, hopefully they wont pull that stunt again.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 12, 2013, 02:56:32 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 11, 2013, 08:27:00 PM
McManus hit Killian Brady (at least I think it was Brady) and brady was u21 last year. Is that not what Myles said.
Correct!
So what's the significance of that?
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2013, 05:41:58 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 12, 2013, 02:56:32 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 11, 2013, 08:27:00 PM
McManus hit Killian Brady (at least I think it was Brady) and brady was u21 last year. Is that not what Myles said.
Correct!
So what's the significance of that?
None at all, McManus is only 3 years older. killian Brady will be 22 this year, not coming out of u16's. I dont know why Myles is even mentioning that.
I'm sure Myles can answer for himself but seems to me he was countering the accusation that Cavan "targeted" McManus for abuse as they were hardly going to target him for rough stuff using a 21 year old starting his first league game. Maguire and Rodney then misinterpreted the post.
Quote from: Itchy on February 12, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
I'm sure Myles can answer for himself but seems to me he was countering the accusation that Cavan "targeted" McManus for abuse as they were hardly going to target him for rough stuff using a 21 year old starting his first league game. Maguire and Rodney then misinterpreted the post.
"Myles can answer himself..." but i'll have a go answering for him too. :P
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2013, 07:37:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 12, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
I'm sure Myles can answer for himself but seems to me he was countering the accusation that Cavan "targeted" McManus for abuse as they were hardly going to target him for rough stuff using a 21 year old starting his first league game. Maguire and Rodney then misinterpreted the post.
"Myles can answer himself..." but i'll have a go answering for him too. :P
You'll just have to get over it Maguire. I'm sure you'll beat us in the u21s so you can look forward to that.
Quote from: Itchy on February 12, 2013, 08:35:40 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on February 12, 2013, 07:37:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 12, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
I'm sure Myles can answer for himself but seems to me he was countering the accusation that Cavan "targeted" McManus for abuse as they were hardly going to target him for rough stuff using a 21 year old starting his first league game. Maguire and Rodney then misinterpreted the post.
"Myles can answer himself..." but i'll have a go answering for him too. :P
You'll just have to get over it Maguire. I'm sure you'll beat us in the u21s so you can look forward to that.
Another thread to be ruined by schoolboy squabbling.
will there be any bans for the monaghan/cavan lads? neither county need banned players if they want to push for promotion.
Quote from: gwan-ye-boy-ya on February 12, 2013, 10:17:57 PM
will there be any bans for the monaghan/cavan lads? neither county need banned players if they want to push for promotion.
Two Cavan lads got straight reds as did McManus so they are getting some sort of ban. The other 2 Monaghan players got two yellows so as far as I know they are not banned.
Quote from: gwan-ye-boy-ya on February 12, 2013, 10:17:57 PM
will there be any bans for the monaghan/cavan lads? neither county need banned players if they want to push for promotion.
i think dessie moen might get a ban as he picked up 2 yellow cards in mc kenna cup final
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 12, 2013, 03:02:19 PM
Quote from: Sligomanabroad on February 11, 2013, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 10, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
Try to make sense of this.
Sligo against the wind are 1-8 to 0-4 up at ht.
sligo are with the wind 2nd half and scrape a win against 13man Antrim by 1-12 to 0-13. Effectively lost 2nd half 9-4 with 2man advantage and wind....
The positive is we won a vital game, as we have 2tough games coming up away to Monaghan and Meath, will do well to get anything out of either...
Struggling to find any detailed report on this one. Don't suppose anyone knows the team selection, scorers, good/bad performances etc?
Did McIntyre and gilmartin start midfield? Any info would be appreciated
Cheers
Sligomanabroad - based on your username you might want to check out ocean fm who usually stream the games live. However this past sunday was a nightmare as they decided to speak to some clowns at the sligo park hotel about sponge cake, biscuits, djs and wedding chair covers when Antrim were making a big comeback. I almost went off the head, hopefully they wont pull that stunt again.
There are certain players that always play well when I listen to the game on Ocean but rarely play well when I see them in the flesh. Still, it's better than nothing I suppose.
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 12, 2013, 03:02:19 PM
Quote from: Sligomanabroad on February 11, 2013, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 10, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
Try to make sense of this.
Sligo against the wind are 1-8 to 0-4 up at ht.
sligo are with the wind 2nd half and scrape a win against 13man Antrim by 1-12 to 0-13. Effectively lost 2nd half 9-4 with 2man advantage and wind....
The positive is we won a vital game, as we have 2tough games coming up away to Monaghan and Meath, will do well to get anything out of either...
Struggling to find any detailed report on this one. Don't suppose anyone knows the team selection, scorers, good/bad performances etc?
Did McIntyre and gilmartin start midfield? Any info would be appreciated
Cheers
Sligomanabroad - based on your username you might want to check out ocean fm who usually stream the games live. However this past sunday was a nightmare as they decided to speak to some clowns at the sligo park hotel about sponge cake, biscuits, djs and wedding chair covers when Antrim were making a big comeback. I almost went off the head, hopefully they wont pull that stunt again.
I sent the following to studio@oceanfm.ie last sunday when to that shower of shite, women talking about make up on the radio ffs
"Are ye serious, putting a wedding fair on ahead of sligo football. This is a disgrace. For those of us ex pats who want to listen to the game in Full, thanks a mill. A joke"Fcking disgraceful shower of c***ts
Sure they fired a man from commentary for repeating an oft used phrase about a certain club when he was commentating on a county final. They are a joke operation. When NWR were about I remember our club PRO giving live updates on club league matches! A far cry from today.
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 13, 2013, 11:53:23 AM
Sure they fired a man from commentary for repeating an oft used phrase about a certain club when he was commentating on a county final. They are a joke operation. When NWR were about I remember our club PRO giving live updates on club league matches! A far cry from today.
Everything
does work better with Rossies in charge.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 13, 2013, 11:48:40 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 12, 2013, 03:02:19 PM
Quote from: Sligomanabroad on February 11, 2013, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 10, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
Try to make sense of this.
Sligo against the wind are 1-8 to 0-4 up at ht.
sligo are with the wind 2nd half and scrape a win against 13man Antrim by 1-12 to 0-13. Effectively lost 2nd half 9-4 with 2man advantage and wind....
The positive is we won a vital game, as we have 2tough games coming up away to Monaghan and Meath, will do well to get anything out of either...
Struggling to find any detailed report on this one. Don't suppose anyone knows the team selection, scorers, good/bad performances etc?
Did McIntyre and gilmartin start midfield? Any info would be appreciated
Cheers
Sligomanabroad - based on your username you might want to check out ocean fm who usually stream the games live. However this past sunday was a nightmare as they decided to speak to some clowns at the sligo park hotel about sponge cake, biscuits, djs and wedding chair covers when Antrim were making a big comeback. I almost went off the head, hopefully they wont pull that stunt again.
I sent the following to studio@oceanfm.ie last sunday when to that shower of shite, women talking about make up on the radio ffs
"Are ye serious, putting a wedding fair on ahead of sligo football. This is a disgrace. For those of us ex pats who want to listen to the game in Full, thanks a mill. A joke"
Fcking disgraceful shower of c***ts
Did you get a response to that measured comment? :D
Maybe a load of old women are the people who tune in most to Ocean FM. You are lucky, northern sound have the match on alright but you might as well be listening to the the women in Sligo as you'll have no idea what is going on.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 13, 2013, 02:47:58 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 13, 2013, 11:48:40 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 12, 2013, 03:02:19 PM
Quote from: Sligomanabroad on February 11, 2013, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 10, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
Try to make sense of this.
Sligo against the wind are 1-8 to 0-4 up at ht.
sligo are with the wind 2nd half and scrape a win against 13man Antrim by 1-12 to 0-13. Effectively lost 2nd half 9-4 with 2man advantage and wind....
The positive is we won a vital game, as we have 2tough games coming up away to Monaghan and Meath, will do well to get anything out of either...
Struggling to find any detailed report on this one. Don't suppose anyone knows the team selection, scorers, good/bad performances etc?
Did McIntyre and gilmartin start midfield? Any info would be appreciated
Cheers
Sligomanabroad - based on your username you might want to check out ocean fm who usually stream the games live. However this past sunday was a nightmare as they decided to speak to some clowns at the sligo park hotel about sponge cake, biscuits, djs and wedding chair covers when Antrim were making a big comeback. I almost went off the head, hopefully they wont pull that stunt again.
I sent the following to studio@oceanfm.ie last sunday when to that shower of shite, women talking about make up on the radio ffs
"Are ye serious, putting a wedding fair on ahead of sligo football. This is a disgrace. For those of us ex pats who want to listen to the game in Full, thanks a mill. A joke"
Fcking disgraceful shower of c***ts
Did you get a response to that measured comment? :D
Maybe a load of old women are the people who tune in most to Ocean FM. You are lucky, northern sound have the match on alright but you might as well be listening to the the women in Sligo as you'll have no idea what is going on.
the bit in bold was my email and no they did not reply,, :D
Good man sligonian - thanks for letting them know how we feel.
I couldnt believe it when they did this each time for about 10 or 15 minutes.
There should ne a law against that......
Sounds like Cavan will set out to try and target our scoring forwards.
Good luck finding them.
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 12, 2013, 03:02:19 PM
Quote from: Sligomanabroad on February 11, 2013, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 10, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
Try to make sense of this.
Sligo against the wind are 1-8 to 0-4 up at ht.
sligo are with the wind 2nd half and scrape a win against 13man Antrim by 1-12 to 0-13. Effectively lost 2nd half 9-4 with 2man advantage and wind....
The positive is we won a vital game, as we have 2tough games coming up away to Monaghan and Meath, will do well to get anything out of either...
Struggling to find any detailed report on this one. Don't suppose anyone knows the team selection, scorers, good/bad performances etc?
Did McIntyre and gilmartin start midfield? Any info would be appreciated
Cheers
Sligomanabroad - based on your username you might want to check out ocean fm who usually stream the games live. However this past sunday was a nightmare as they decided to speak to some clowns at the sligo park hotel about sponge cake, biscuits, djs and wedding chair covers when Antrim were making a big comeback. I almost went off the head, hopefully they wont pull that stunt again.
thanks lads,
I have some experience with Ocean FM alright - what a disaster! Mid Wesht was the only job!
An important 2 points gained which keeps us in the hunt for promotion I guess. Realistically though I think Promotion will always be difficult with 4 games on the road this year. If we were to get a total of 2 points out of the next two games against Meath and Monaghan I would be delighted - a big ask but not beyond us by any means.
One general point - Everyone seems to point to a weak Sligo Mid-field and poor catch rate on Kickouts... while we may not have two all star mid-fielders surly the problem is with Greens Kickouts? From the few televised games I have seen over the last few years his kickouts are shocking! Who is the current second choice keeper? Is the Guy from Owenmore Gales still in the mix? Farrell maybe?
Am I correct in thinking Kilcullen hasn't featured yet?
I think he could do a real job for Mayo Sligo in the middle, he'd certainly add some physicality to the sector.
Quote from: Syferus on February 14, 2013, 09:14:44 PM
Am I correct in thinking Kilcullen hasn't featured yet?
I think he could do a real job for Mayo in the middle, he'd certainly add some physicality to the sector.
Have the rhubarbs been relegated to Div 3 Syfeen ?
Quote from: Rossfan on February 14, 2013, 09:23:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 14, 2013, 09:14:44 PM
Am I correct in thinking Kilcullen hasn't featured yet?
I think he could do a real job for Mayo in the middle, he'd certainly add some physicality to the sector.
Have the rhubarbs been relegated to Div 3 Syfeen ?
Sure I'd be awful conflicted if that happened, right?
Quote from: Syferus on February 14, 2013, 09:30:03 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 14, 2013, 09:23:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 14, 2013, 09:14:44 PM
Am I correct in thinking Kilcullen hasn't featured yet?
I think he could do a real job for Mayo in the middle, he'd certainly add some physicality to the sector.
Have the rhubarbs been relegated to Div 3 Syfeen ?
Sure I'd be awful conflicted if that happened, right?
Bad enough having Meath down here imagine having to share division with that crowd as well.
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5508873216/hA606BC98/)
Quote from: ross4life on February 14, 2013, 09:52:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 14, 2013, 09:30:03 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 14, 2013, 09:23:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 14, 2013, 09:14:44 PM
Am I correct in thinking Kilcullen hasn't featured yet?
I think he could do a real job for Mayo in the middle, he'd certainly add some physicality to the sector.
Have the rhubarbs been relegated to Div 3 Syfeen ?
Sure I'd be awful conflicted if that happened, right?
Bad enough having Meath down here imagine having to share division with that crowd as well.
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5508873216/hA606BC98/)
There'd be a good lot more posts too I'd imagine! :P
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 14, 2013, 10:01:15 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 14, 2013, 09:52:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 14, 2013, 09:30:03 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 14, 2013, 09:23:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 14, 2013, 09:14:44 PM
Am I correct in thinking Kilcullen hasn't featured yet?
I think he could do a real job for Mayo in the middle, he'd certainly add some physicality to the sector.
Have the rhubarbs been relegated to Div 3 Syfeen ?
Sure I'd be awful conflicted if that happened, right?
Bad enough having Meath down here imagine having to share division with that crowd as well.
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5508873216/hA606BC98/)
There'd be a good lot more posts too I'd imagine! :P
This is what i see and hear when the mayofans on here post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSKQ3ZNQ_O8
Fairly accurate i would say ;)
Sligomanabroad - you're 100% on Green's kickouts. I just can't understand how he keeps getting picked. Vinny Cadden from my club would be in there except he fcuked up his ankle playing mickey mouse hurling (he should have known better) and will be out for a while yet. Excellent shot stopper and a great kickout - regularly scores 45's too. From what I hear of the other 2 keepers on the panel one has a great kickout but mightn't be great under the high ball and the other is a super shot stopper and commanding but hasn't a great kickout.
The big scandal though is how Eamonn O'Hara has been treated. I personally find it disgusting. Walsh would have been ran out of any other county in Ireland by this stage and to do what he is doing to arguably our greatest servant ever is outrageous.
After a three week break NFL div 3 restarts with 4 games in 4 weeks. (fantastic scheduling as ever ::) ) Fermanagh out in front but has the long break hit their momentum? some teams will have injured players returning for ourselves no St Brigids players for the next 3 games (maybe more games if they decide to take a break) & our injury list remains long saying all that anything other than win v Wicklow at home will be a big disappointed.
This weekend match PP odds.
Saturday 7pm
Meath 4/9 draw 15/2 Cavan 9/4
Antrim 8/11 draw 15/2 Fermanagh 11/8
Sunday 2pm
Roscommon 4/11 draw 15/2 Wicklow 11/4
Monaghan 4/9 draw 15/2 Sligo 9/4
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 15, 2013, 09:33:28 AM
Sligomanabroad - you're 100% on Green's kickouts. I just can't understand how he keeps getting picked. Vinny Cadden from my club would be in there except he fcuked up his ankle playing mickey mouse hurling (he should have known better) and will be out for a while yet. Excellent shot stopper and a great kickout - regularly scores 45's too. From what I hear of the other 2 keepers on the panel one has a great kickout but mightn't be great under the high ball and the other is a super shot stopper and commanding but hasn't a great kickout.
The big scandal though is how Eamonn O'Hara has been treated. I personally find it disgusting. Walsh would have been ran out of any other county in Ireland by this stage and to do what he is doing to arguably our greatest servant ever is outrageous.
Micky Mouse hurling? Seriously?
A lot of the players here in the District soccer league are GAA club players and a huge number of players at the hurling clubs play football for other clubs to boot. It's almost surely similar in other football-first counties.
So you'd prefer a player stops playing an entire sport he obviously enjoys in the hope he's picked to be the county keeper in one sport?
Quote from: Gold on February 04, 2013, 11:09:25 PM
I was behind the stand at half time when you were selling Ross supporters umbrellas. Tannoy announced it just before. I needed an umbrella and enquired as to the price. 4 men were standing there at stall when I asked.
Seller in his 40's said (deadpan) ' sure what would you want one of them for, would you not want some red and white to go with the blue?" cue laughter from his mates. Didn't even say only messin they're 20quid or whatever. d**khead.
As one of about 4 Saffrons who bothered travelling I was majorly pissed off by this 'welcome' and vowed to even support mayo and Galway when they play against u forever more.
Im not even bein overly touch as he wasn't even tryin to have the Craic. Soured my first and last experience of the Hyde!
Match on Saturday 16th of March now at 2-30pm in Casement in an attempt to avert crowd trouble over the umbrella issue.
Quote from: drici on February 27, 2013, 11:44:55 AM
Quote from: Gold on February 04, 2013, 11:09:25 PM
I was behind the stand at half time when you were selling Ross supporters umbrellas. Tannoy announced it just before. I needed an umbrella and enquired as to the price. 4 men were standing there at stall when I asked.
Seller in his 40's said (deadpan) ' sure what would you want one of them for, would you not want some red and white to go with the blue?" cue laughter from his mates. Didn't even say only messin they're 20quid or whatever. d**khead.
As one of about 4 Saffrons who bothered travelling I was majorly pissed off by this 'welcome' and vowed to even support mayo and Galway when they play against u forever more.
Im not even bein overly touch as he wasn't even tryin to have the Craic. Soured my first and last experience of the Hyde!
Match on Saturday 16th of March now at 2-30pm in Casement in an attempt to avert crowd trouble over the umbrella issue.
Umbrellagate!
To clarify, i've nothing against the landlocked primrose and blue men. Rochfords is a serious niteclub.
But that fat bollix who thought he'd get a great laugh out of his mates at the expense of my County and our colonialisation that he's done or cares f all about was step too far that wet day.
Its funny but since I've been living in the west I detected a huge hatred for Roscommon from every county - Sligo, Leitrim, Mayo and Galway. Its strange, it even extends a long way from any borders. Like if poor wee Leitrim can't stand Ros there most be something wrong with them?
Ros asked for the game to be brought forward as our County champions have a very important date in Croke Park the following day.
A lot of the "woolly hatted" regular followers will be travelling to both games.
As for fat bollixes and umbrellas - There's always one ::)
As for our neighbours - I could say that all of them except Sligo are nasty evil smelly inbred jealous good for nothing annoyances put on earth to give us some pain to balance the fact that the Lord gave us Paradise to live in...... but I won't as that might be sinking to their levels :-*
Quote from: ross4life on February 26, 2013, 08:48:29 PM
After a three week break NFL div 3 restarts with 4 games in 4 weeks. (fantastic scheduling as ever ::) ) Fermanagh out in front but has the long break hit their momentum? some teams will have injured players returning for ourselves no St Brigids players for the next 3 games (maybe more games if they decide to take a break) & our injury list remains long saying all that anything other than win v Wicklow at home will be a big disappointed.
This weekend match PP odds.
Saturday 7pm
Meath 4/9 draw 15/2 Cavan 9/4
Antrim 8/11 draw 15/2 Fermanagh 11/8
Sunday 2pm
Roscommon 4/11 draw 15/2 Wicklow 11/4
Monaghan 4/9 draw 15/2 Sligo 9/4
If I were to go by the whispers coming out of the Fermanagh camp, I'd snap up 11/8.
Quote from: Syferus on February 26, 2013, 09:33:47 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 15, 2013, 09:33:28 AM
Sligomanabroad - you're 100% on Green's kickouts. I just can't understand how he keeps getting picked. Vinny Cadden from my club would be in there except he fcuked up his ankle playing mickey mouse hurling (he should have known better) and will be out for a while yet. Excellent shot stopper and a great kickout - regularly scores 45's too. From what I hear of the other 2 keepers on the panel one has a great kickout but mightn't be great under the high ball and the other is a super shot stopper and commanding but hasn't a great kickout.
The big scandal though is how Eamonn O'Hara has been treated. I personally find it disgusting. Walsh would have been ran out of any other county in Ireland by this stage and to do what he is doing to arguably our greatest servant ever is outrageous.
Micky Mouse hurling? Seriously?
A lot of the players here in the District soccer league are GAA club players and a huge number of players at the hurling clubs play football for other clubs to boot. It's almost surely similar in other football-first counties.
So you'd prefer a player stops playing an entire sport he obviously enjoys in the hope he's picked to be the county keeper in one sport?
You don't know what you're talking about.
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 27, 2013, 02:07:42 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 26, 2013, 09:33:47 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 15, 2013, 09:33:28 AM
Sligomanabroad - you're 100% on Green's kickouts. I just can't understand how he keeps getting picked. Vinny Cadden from my club would be in there except he fcuked up his ankle playing mickey mouse hurling (he should have known better) and will be out for a while yet. Excellent shot stopper and a great kickout - regularly scores 45's too. From what I hear of the other 2 keepers on the panel one has a great kickout but mightn't be great under the high ball and the other is a super shot stopper and commanding but hasn't a great kickout.
The big scandal though is how Eamonn O'Hara has been treated. I personally find it disgusting. Walsh would have been ran out of any other county in Ireland by this stage and to do what he is doing to arguably our greatest servant ever is outrageous.
Micky Mouse hurling? Seriously?
A lot of the players here in the District soccer league are GAA club players and a huge number of players at the hurling clubs play football for other clubs to boot. It's almost surely similar in other football-first counties.
So you'd prefer a player stops playing an entire sport he obviously enjoys in the hope he's picked to be the county keeper in one sport?
You don't know what you're talking about.
I think that's fairly well established at this stage Seanie ;D
Quote from: Rossfan on February 27, 2013, 01:43:03 PM
Ros asked for the game to be brought forward as our County champions have a very important date in Croke Park the following day.
A lot of the "woolly hatted" regular followers will be travelling to both games.
As for fat bollixes and umbrellas - There's always one ::)
As for our neighbours - I could say that all of them except Sligo are nasty evil smelly inbred jealous good for nothing annoyances put on earth to give us some pain to balance the fact that the Lord gave us Paradise to live in...... but I won't as that might be sinking to their levels :-*
Count yourself lucky you don't have a border with the mongoloids from Meath or the smelly mushroom men of Monaghan.
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 27, 2013, 02:07:42 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 26, 2013, 09:33:47 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 15, 2013, 09:33:28 AM
Sligomanabroad - you're 100% on Green's kickouts. I just can't understand how he keeps getting picked. Vinny Cadden from my club would be in there except he fcuked up his ankle playing mickey mouse hurling (he should have known better) and will be out for a while yet. Excellent shot stopper and a great kickout - regularly scores 45's too. From what I hear of the other 2 keepers on the panel one has a great kickout but mightn't be great under the high ball and the other is a super shot stopper and commanding but hasn't a great kickout.
The big scandal though is how Eamonn O'Hara has been treated. I personally find it disgusting. Walsh would have been ran out of any other county in Ireland by this stage and to do what he is doing to arguably our greatest servant ever is outrageous.
Micky Mouse hurling? Seriously?
A lot of the players here in the District soccer league are GAA club players and a huge number of players at the hurling clubs play football for other clubs to boot. It's almost surely similar in other football-first counties.
So you'd prefer a player stops playing an entire sport he obviously enjoys in the hope he's picked to be the county keeper in one sport?
You don't know what you're talking about.
Then please explain what you meant because the sum total of what you did was call a lower grade of hurling 'Micky Mouse' and opine that the player should have minded himself in the hopes he'd be the county senior football goalkeeper.
Making a definitive statement without any support does nothing to refute the points I raised or answer the questions I asked.
Quotethe player should have minded himself in the hopes he'd be the county senior football goalkeeper.
The lad himself would agree with me. Probably cost the club a county U-20 football championship too which would have been our 3rd ever. So don't talk about things you don't know about.
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 27, 2013, 07:44:03 PM
Quotethe player should have minded himself in the hopes he'd be the county senior football goalkeeper.
The lad himself would agree with me. Probably cost the club a county U-20 football championship too which would have been our 3rd ever. So don't talk about things you don't know about.
Again you've ignored the points. You called the hurling 'Micky Mouse', as blatant an insult as you could make towards hurlers who don't have the good fortune to be born in a hurling-first county or happen to play at lower grades.
How far should 'minding' yourself extend? Should no player ever be dual with another sport if they have even a possibility of being a senior county football starter? For example show Keith Higgins stop playing hurling for Mayo even though his home club is a hurling club at its heart?
I'm asking you to extrapolate your opinion, not for intimate knowledge of this particular player who I never professed to know any more about than was said - that's pretty much irrelevant to the larger issue I questioned you o.
If we could avoid letting Syfeen ruin another thread with gobshitery and get back to the subject matter -
Have we any chance against the wild mountainy Wicklamen?
Evans is talking about how hard the lads have worked since the Fermanagh game. However the problem is we've fallen so far behind the levels necessary for Senior Inter County that we probably need to work twice as long and hard just to get to where everyone else was a month ago.
We simply HAVE to win this one to not alone keep our Promotion hopes alive but to avoid the dreaded drop to D4.
Mind you Wicklow will be saying the same so a right battle should ensue with us hopefully being ahead on the scoreboard at the final whistle.
Quote from: Rossfan on February 28, 2013, 09:32:11 PM
If we could avoid letting Syfeen ruin another thread with gobshitery and get back to the subject matter -
Have we any chance against the wild mountainy Wicklamen?
Evans is talking about how hard the lads have worked since the Fermanagh game. However the problem is we've fallen so far behind the levels necessary for Senior Inter County that we probably need to work twice as long and hard just to get to where everyone else was a month ago.
We simply HAVE to win this one to not alone keep our Promotion hopes alive but to avoid the dreaded drop to D4.
Mind you Wicklow will be saying the same so a right battle should ensue with us hopefully being ahead on the scoreboard at the final whistle.
If you can't discuss something, insult the person. I guess that's your favourite tact.
If we can't beat Cavan we may as well jack it in altogether.
Quote from: Jinxy on February 28, 2013, 09:48:12 PM
If we can't beat Cavan we may as well jack it in altogether.
That would be nice if yis jacked it in and we never heard from any of yis again.
This lad will be in goals for Cavan Saturday, he will be watching the Cavan forwards run riot
http://joe.ie/home/pic-of-the-day/this-is-how-you-keep-goal-in-a-junior-b-match-in-cavan-0034757-1
I think I'll wander into Naaaavan of a Saturday, those Cavan boys take their football seriously enough.
We'll not keep it kicked out to these Meath lads. Givney won't get a sniff. Can see it coming a mile away.
Quote from: Ard-Rí on March 01, 2013, 12:05:35 AM
I think I'll wander into Naaaavan of a Sunday, those Cavan boys take their football seriously enough.
Yeah, the fans do alright.
Antrim team to play Fermanagh on Sat
1. Chris Kerr Naomh Gall
2. Kevin O Boyle Clann na hEireann
3. Paul Doherty Ros Earcain
4. Nial Delargy Mhic Asmaint
5. Tony Scullion Clann na hEireann
6. Justin Crozier Clann na hEireann
7. John Carron Clann na hEireann
8. Michael Mc Cann Clann na hEireann
9. Sean Mc Veigh Naomh Uile
10. Conor Murray Lamh Dhearg
11. Kevin Niblock Naomh Gall
12. Brendan Herron Lamh Dhearg
13. Paddy Cunningham Lamh Dhearg
14. Michael Pollock Naomh Gall
15. Ryan Murray Lamh Dhearg
16 John Finucane Lamh Dhearg
17 Sean Finch Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa
18 James Laverty Clann na hEireann
19 Anto Healy Naomh Gall
20 Andy McClean Naomh Gall
21 Michael Herron Lamh Dhearg
22 Conal Kelly Naomh Eoin
23 Dermot Mc Cann Ciceam Creagan
24 Liam Carland Naomh Pol
25 Tomas McCann Clann na hEireann
26 Paddy Kelly Mhic Asmaint
Quote from: Syferus on February 28, 2013, 09:41:28 PM
If you can't discuss something, insult the person. I guess that's your favourite tact.
That's very crypt.
I am so confident we will take the uncivilised stone-throwers apart tonight, I will take a one year ban from the board(without re-registering under another name obviously) ,if by some miracle we were to lose tommorow night. If there were power rankings at Inter-County level, Meath would be about number 31,behind London and only slightly ahead of Kilkenny,only because the Cats don't with the big ball . Cavan by about 19 tonight.
Now that's what I call putting your head in the chopping block. Go ballyhaise man go.
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 02, 2013, 01:24:51 AM
I am so confident we will take the uncivilised stone-throwers apart tonight, I will take a one year ban from the board(without re-registering under another name obviously) ,if by some miracle we were to lose tommorow night. If there were power rankings at Inter-County level, Meath would be about number 31,behind London and only slightly ahead of Kilkenny,only because the Cats don't with the big ball . Cavan by about 19 tonight.
Cavan men might talk shite, but they don't take any. (http://www.tubechop.com/watch/982607)
Ballyhaise man. See you in a year.
Jesus Hardy - that's one cross man. He probably was a handy full back in his day.
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 02, 2013, 01:24:51 AM
I am so confident we will take the uncivilised stone-throwers apart tonight, I will take a one year ban from the board(without re-registering under another name obviously) ,if by some miracle we were to lose tommorow night. If there were power rankings at Inter-County level, Meath would be about number 31,behind London and only slightly ahead of Kilkenny,only because the Cats don't with the big ball . Cavan by about 19 tonight.
just to clarify things here, is the self imposed ban dependant on Cavan simply losing or does it come into effect if they fail to win by 19 points
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 02, 2013, 01:24:51 AM
I am so confident we will take the uncivilised stone-throwers apart tonight, I will take a one year ban from the board(without re-registering under another name obviously) ,if by some miracle we were to lose tommorow night. If there were power rankings at Inter-County level, Meath would be about number 31,behind London and only slightly ahead of Kilkenny,only because the Cats don't with the big ball . Cavan by about 19 tonight.
(http://cdn.mos.photoradar.com/files/imagecache/home_potd_thumb/articles/news/february2011/World%20Press%20Photos%20-%20In%20Pictures%20-%2003Corentin%20Fohlen.jpg)
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 02, 2013, 12:01:36 PM
Ballyhaise man. See you in a year.
Jesus Hardy - that's one cross man. He probably was a handy full back in his day.
I thought BHM was a midfilder.
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 02, 2013, 01:14:37 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 02, 2013, 12:01:36 PM
Ballyhaise man. See you in a year.
Jesus Hardy - that's one cross man. He probably was a handy full back in his day.
I thought BHM was a midfilder.
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 02, 2013, 01:14:37 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 02, 2013, 12:01:36 PM
Ballyhaise man. See you in a year.
Jesus Hardy - that's one cross man. He probably was a handy full back in his day.
I thought BHM was a midfilder.
He is referring to the taxi driver in the clip.
Quote from: Hardy on March 02, 2013, 12:00:53 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 02, 2013, 01:24:51 AM
I am so confident we will take the uncivilised stone-throwers apart tonight, I will take a one year ban from the board(without re-registering under another name obviously) ,if by some miracle we were to lose tommorow night. If there were power rankings at Inter-County level, Meath would be about number 31,behind London and only slightly ahead of Kilkenny,only because the Cats don't with the big ball . Cavan by about 19 tonight.
Cavan men might talk shite, but they don't take any. (http://www.tubechop.com/watch/982607)
:D :D
Brilliant!
I'd like to issue a word of warning to the travelling Cavan support and players. Be careful what you drink from. Meath men have developed the odd habit of sticking their genitals in any vessels they get their hands on these days.
http://ballsdot.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/nestortweet.jpg
I would reiterate that westside. Don't drink anything, don't eat anything, don't touch the natives or even get too close to the natives. These are a disease infested breed we only should only associate with when two points are on offer. When the game is over get out of there asap, the county board are setting up quarantine zones at Maghera.
The stone throwers were usually in full flight around the Kells area. Thank Christ for the n3, an awful place to have to drive into.
No online streams available for the armchair fans tonight..
Due to lack of transport I will be one of the armchair fans tonight, barring a late offer. Mind yourselves lads. Drive in convoy if needs be.
There's a panel beater in Cavan doing a special offer on Monday morning I hear, just in case.
Come on now westside, get on the blower and you'll get a lift!
Meath gaa break the bank with entrance ticket design :D
There are 6 other teams in this Division besides the incestuous Cavan/Meath gang and to prove it we've neamed a team -
Geoffrey Claffey Naomh Caoimhin Cáislean Riabhach
Neil Collins Naomh Caoimhin Cáislean Riabhach
Niall Carty (C) Na Piarsaigh
Seán McDermott Gaeil an Iarthair
David Keenan Naomh Bearraí
Niall Daly Na Piarsaigh
Conor Daly Na Piarsaigh
Michael Finneran Naomh Dominic
Kevin Higgins Gaeil an Iarthair
Fintan Cregg Ail Finn
David O'Gara Gaeil Ros Comáin
Donal Keane Fingallians
Donie Smith Mainistir na Búille
Cathal Shine Clann na nGael
Conor Devaney Cill Bhríde
Hopefully a more direct delivery to the Full Forward Line will be utilised but someone else needs to start getting scores besides young Smith.
Cavan 0.10 Meath 0.1. HT
Should be more. Mackey running riot.
antrim 1-02 fermanagh 0-05 @ HT
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 02, 2013, 01:24:51 AM
I am so confident we will take the uncivilised stone-throwers apart tonight, I will take a one year ban from the board(without re-registering under another name obviously) ,if by some miracle we were to lose tommorow night. If there were power rankings at Inter-County level, Meath would be about number 31,behind London and only slightly ahead of Kilkenny,only because the Cats don't with the big ball . Cavan by about 19 tonight.
Looks like Meath need a miracle at the moment but who knows might be one of those games of two halves.
There's worse to come next week, royalers.
Quote from: Syferus on March 02, 2013, 08:01:39 PM
There's worse to come next week, royalers.
Syferus, in the honour of god, will you stop making a show of us..
Quote from: commonman on March 02, 2013, 08:06:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 02, 2013, 08:01:39 PM
There's worse to come next week, royalers.
Syferus, in the honour of god, will you stop making a show of us..
;D
Quote from: commonman on March 02, 2013, 08:06:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 02, 2013, 08:01:39 PM
There's worse to come next week, royalers.
Syferus, in the honour of god, will you stop making a show of us..
You really don't quite grasped the concept of humour or the general light-hearted, tongue-in-cheek tone of discussion on this site,
have you?
Maybe if you contributed more than ad hominem nonsense you wouldn't be making such mistakes.
Antrim 2-7 Fermanagh 1-10
Quote from: Syferus on March 02, 2013, 08:15:32 PM
Maybe if you contributed more than ad hominem nonsense you wouldn't be making such mistakes.
Jasus if ever there was a " POT KETTLE BLACK" comment ........ :-[
Great win. Should have been more, gearoid missed great goal chance and Meath did their party piece of lying on the ground in the small box and throwing the ball into the goals. Bhm can rest easy.
Meath won the 2nd half fair play to them! wounded animal against us next weekend :-\ two big wins in a row for Cavan & looking at their remaining fixtures they must fancy their chances for promotion now.
Everyone ended up getting their moneys worth at Casement. Two well matched teams went right to the wire. Canavan has done some job with Fermanagh to be fair. But Antrim came back from 4 down and in the end a draw a fair result.
Hard to beat Sat night under the lights - big crowd there too.
Quote from: ross4life on March 02, 2013, 09:05:05 PM
Meath won the 2nd half fair play to them! wounded animal against us next weekend :-\ two big wins in a row for Cavan & looking at their remaining fixtures they must fancy their chances for promotion now.
Remember that footage of the poor cow with BSE they used to show on the news?
Staggering and lurching all over the yard?
That's not us.
We're the cow that couldn't even make it out of the shed.
Great game in casement, think we just edged it but a draw is fair enough.
From a fermanagh point view, it was very encouraging considering we were missing both our starting midfielders. Work rate and effort could not be faulted.
It was worth every penny of the entrance fee!!
Quote from: Thastheball on March 02, 2013, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 02, 2013, 09:37:08 PM
Everyone ended up getting their moneys worth at Casement. Two well matched teams went right to the wire. Canavan has done some job with Fermanagh to be fair. But Antrim came back from 4 down and in the end a draw a fair result.
Hard to beat Sat night under the lights - big crowd there too.
Yip he's done some job getting Fermanagh up to Antrims level
Remind me again of why ye Meath men wanted Banty to go?
Because we needed a manager and Meath had most of them contracted or working in herb shops.
Not feeling particularly wounded to be honest. There were a lot of bad performances, Mick O'Dowd showed his hand a little bit in the second half. Young lads are working hard, it's not happening for them yet but it will. Championship team will be quite different. Problems all over the pitch. Also, a serious lack of strong tough men.
The manager is not the problem.
Not now.
Not last year.
Not when O'Brien was there.
Or Coyle.
We have too many soft, mediocre players who think they're legends.
YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW ;D
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 03, 2013, 01:12:58 AM
YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW ;D
steady on Haise Man it was only a 6 point baytin ;)
Fermanagh will be the team to beat in this years league. Anyone claiming points off them will be doing well. PC has got a good run out of them and they are full of football. Dont rule out back to back promotions from them.
Canavan proving he cuts it at managerial level - not that anyone should have doubted his ability to do so. Class prevails.
Quote from: anglocelt39 on March 03, 2013, 01:22:26 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 03, 2013, 01:12:58 AM
YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW ;D
steady on Haise Man it was only a 6 point baytin ;)
BHM went in hard and came out on top. A braver man than I am!
Quote from: Jinxy on March 01, 2013, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: Ard-Rí on March 01, 2013, 12:05:35 AM
I think I'll wander into Naaaavan of a Sunday, those Cavan boys take their football seriously enough.
Yeah, the fans do alright.
Seems the players take it seriously now too. I expect ye'll be packng it in now?
We packed it in a while ago.
Hope the ideal conditions today make for a good match. Up, up, up Roscommon!
Sligo 6-2 down to Monaghan at ht, could be a lot worse with our fb line plugging the dyke according to the radio. We are not a threat going forward at all (bar the genius of Marren) and a lot unforced turnovers from both teams. As everyone knows I don't rate Walsh and I could see us struggle big time this yr although I hope I'm wrong. Meath struggles are not good news for us point being us having to go to Navan as a relegation match is a big ask. We have in form Cavan next up.
Monaghan 1-8 to 3 PTs up >:( 20 mins to go
Ros 0-13 Wicklow 1-10
Last minute goal by Wicklow.
Urgh. Meath can't come soon enough to wash this down. Real meeting of titans in prospect.
The pity about this league is that we only play Meath once.
Poor game, two poor teams, atrocious result. Relegation dogfight fight on the cards for us now & on todays evidence ourselves and Wicklow will be playing each other again next year in div 4.
Quote from: ross4life on March 03, 2013, 04:52:40 PM
Poor game, two poor teams, atrocious result. Relegation dogfight fight on the cards for us now & on todays evidence ourselves and Wicklow will be playing each other again next year in div 4.
still without brigids players though so theres some hope for ye, Roscommon for me is an enigma in the sense that ye tick 2very important boxes for underage success and club success but are way off at senior. Yere not even coming close to filtering through on all that talent. Quite baffling tbh. Sport is just not logical and there are no guarantees of course. Must be frustrating for ye as ye must had high expectations from all the successes.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 03, 2013, 05:36:03 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 03, 2013, 04:52:40 PM
Poor game, two poor teams, atrocious result. Relegation dogfight fight on the cards for us now & on todays evidence ourselves and Wicklow will be playing each other again next year in div 4.
still without brigids players though so theres some hope for ye, Roscommon for me is an enigma in the sense that ye tick 2very important boxes for underage success and club success but are way off at senior. Yere not even coming close to filtering through on all that talent. Quite baffling tbh. Sport is just not logical and there are no guarantees of course. Must be frustrating for ye as ye must had high expectations from all the successes.
It's simple really. Our underage teams & St Brigids are well organised teams that know where they are going & are willing to fight for the cause. Until the same happens at senior level we will continue to underachieve/disappoint. Bad defeat for Sligo putting all your effort into the championship again?
In all fairness players are coming enough. Most of our best performers today were Donie Smith (who was spectacular in limited opportunities), Conor Daly (who put on the best point scoring display by a half-back we've seen in years) and Cathal Shine and all were or are u21s last year and two are this year as well.
Cathal Shine to midfield permanently is the only way forward, let Higgins play half-forward because we're just wasting him at 9. Midfield continues to torment us and everyone from the management to the half-backs and half-forwards and goalkeeper need to accept that the same old ways aren't working. I think we're drilling the ball too hard and too low from kick-outs and it's making it even harder to get effective possession in the middle. Ball out of the middle is sludge most of the time and contributes greatly to all the backwards passing that's on show. David Hoey wasn't even named on the subs and yet is the only other midfielder on the panel that wasn't starting. Amazing.
A fine day in Hyde Park, a poor crowd, no atmosphere, two bad teams and us playing the worst of bad puke sh1teball going round in bloody rings and totally incapable of hitting long or quick or forward ball.
We and Wicklow had the look of Division 4 today and no amount of Syferian nonsense will change that.
The 2006 minors are now all past their sell by date and need to move on going on today's evidence.
Other than that I wonder is there any sense in the GAa persisting with rubbish like today for 3 months every year dressed up as National League D3 - and what must D 4 be like.? ??? :-[
Make 4 groups of 4 and let the top 2 in each play knock put for the D3 title and let the ther 8 gat match practice in some shield or go mountain climbing or anything that would keep them away from a football field.
Seriously depressing and depressed.
Good night.
Good win for Monaghan but unlike after the Meath win I don't think too many will get carried away. Sligo were poor and Monaghan should have wrapped up the game by half time but missed chance after chance. Good performances by Dessie Mone in particular but all of the defence played well and Kieran Hughes caused plenty of problems in attack. Tough game next Sat in Fermanagh but hopefully McManus and Darren Hughes will be back for that one.
Monaghan totally outclassed us today. Best team in division. Fermanagh a close 2nd.
Good result for Monaghan, particularly after the Cavan game. It's turning into a very interesting division - whilst there are a few teams struggling, it'll still probably require 6 points to avoid the drop.
From Monaghan's point of view, the couple of draws this weekend were a result, especially Fermanagh's. The game in Enniskillen next weekend is likely to be the toughest ahead of us - having said that, the Meath and Cavan games didn't quite pan out as expected, so who knows. It's unlikely however, that any one team is going to break into a significant lead at the top of the table.
Walsh out.
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 04, 2013, 09:51:26 AM
Walsh out.
+1
This is his fifth year in the job. First 2 years the team gained promotion and got to Connacht final in 2010 beating Mayo and Galway along the way. The team has been in decline ever since. His behavior this year has been disgraceful forcing some great servants into retirement (Davey, O'Hara, Maguire) and Greene until he realised the backup keeper had a longtime injury. This added to injuries, emigration has left a squad short on leaders, experience and scoring power.
Time for a change
This division is looking very interesting. Sligo looked like relegation material yesterday. You couldn't see where their scores were going to come from. Monaghan , well, were simply okay, nothing more. Without Darren Hughes and Conor McManus I was worried , but Neil McAdam was solid at CHB, but the attack was not on the same wavelength at all. Some absolutely woeful ball was hit into the full forward line. Kieran Hughes is an engima; physcially powerful and a decent targetman, but he presists in coming out the field and trying to sell unnecessary dummies. He slowed down the play numerous times and hit blind passes behind his intended targets frequently. Yet when he was told to stay on the square he was very effective.
Monaghan haven't won two games in a row for a very long time, so the game against Fermanagh in Enniskillen is a crucial game. That will decide who is going to be in the mix come the end. Moanaghan will need to improve hugely for the Fermanagh game.
That's why it's so depressing because Monaghan weren't really good.
Division 4 and championship humiliation to London or Leitrim beckon.
Quote from: Mano on March 04, 2013, 10:47:34 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 04, 2013, 09:51:26 AM
Walsh out.
+1
This is his fifth year in the job. First 2 years the team gained promotion and got to Connacht final in 2010 beating Mayo and Galway along the way. The team has been in decline ever since. His behavior this year has been disgraceful forcing some great servants into retirement (Davey, O'Hara, Maguire) and Greene until he realised the backup keeper had a longtime injury. This added to injuries, emigration has left a squad short on leaders, experience and scoring power.
Time for a change
+2 get Rory Gallagher from Donegal. 6 months I've been saying this...we are only heading one if there is no change.
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Hmmm...3-36 scored, only Fermanagh have scored more...4-33 conceded, only Wicklow have conceded more. Not promotion stats?
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 04, 2013, 03:52:37 PM
Quote from: Mano on March 04, 2013, 10:47:34 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 04, 2013, 09:51:26 AM
Walsh out.
+1
This is his fifth year in the job. First 2 years the team gained promotion and got to Connacht final in 2010 beating Mayo and Galway along the way. The team has been in decline ever since. His behavior this year has been disgraceful forcing some great servants into retirement (Davey, O'Hara, Maguire) and Greene until he realised the backup keeper had a longtime injury. This added to injuries, emigration has left a squad short on leaders, experience and scoring power.
Time for a change
+2 get Rory Gallagher from Donegal. 6 months I've been saying this...we are only heading one if there is no change.
Walsh had a great first couple of seasons and was really going in the right direction. The 2010 loss to Roscommon after beating Galway and Mayo hit team morale hard. Heavy defeats to Kildare and Down after Connacht finals seems to point in the direction that the team want to win a connacht title and are not really interested in the back door. Last year, I thought Sligo put it well up to Mayo in the Connacht Final, Mayo even needed a dodgy point to help them over the line. He should have quit last year after the loss to Kildare.
Only positive from yesterday was that Kilcullen came on in the 2nd half and played well according to the radio.
We have struggled at midfield for yeArs so i think he will be a great addition.
We were desperate end of story - no attacking plan, and too small.
We need a miracle
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 04, 2013, 10:38:07 PM
Only positive from yesterday was that Kilcullen came on in the 2nd half and played well according to the radio.
We have struggled at midfield for yeArs so i think he will be a great addition.
We were desperate end of story - no attacking plan, and too small.
We need a miracle
Is that Killcullen the big lad that was minor last year? Cavan will likely be favourites now, not sure how that will sit with us. Its a huge opportunity for us to take a big step towards promotion.
Quote from: Itchy on March 04, 2013, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 04, 2013, 10:38:07 PM
Only positive from yesterday was that Kilcullen came on in the 2nd half and played well according to the radio.
We have struggled at midfield for yeArs so i think he will be a great addition.
We were desperate end of story - no attacking plan, and too small.
We need a miracle
Is that Killcullen the big lad that was minor last year? Cavan will likely be favourites now, not sure how that will sit with us. Its a huge opportunity for us to take a big step towards promotion.
Ahhhh.
James Kilcullen is the reigning Mayo club player of the year from Ballaghaddreen. He's the nephew of Mickey Keirns and his parents are Sligo so that's how you've got him. Wouldn't have minded if he declared for his home county, he's a talented lad.
Quote from: Itchy on March 04, 2013, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 04, 2013, 10:38:07 PM
Only positive from yesterday was that Kilcullen came on in the 2nd half and played well according to the radio.
We have struggled at midfield for yeArs so i think he will be a great addition.
We were desperate end of story - no attacking plan, and too small.
We need a miracle
Is that Killcullen the big lad that was minor last year? Cavan will likely be favourites now, not sure how that will sit with us. Its a huge opportunity for us to take a big step towards promotion.
No, I think you're thinking of Kevin McDonnell who is on the senior panel alright but is minor again this year which is crazy in my book. Let him play his minor and U-21 (rather than warm the seniors bench) and if he's going well draft him in in June/July (if the seniors are still alive).
Lads, so far we have Rossfan saying Roscommon will go down, a few Sligo lads saying Sligo are going down, a couple if Meath bucks claiming they will go down, while most of the rest of us expect Wicklow to go down. Who's the poorest out of those 4 that actually will go down?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 05, 2013, 11:22:40 PM
Lads, so far we have Rossfan saying Roscommon will go down, a few Sligo lads saying Sligo are going down, a couple if Meath bucks claiming they will go down, while most of the rest of us expect Wicklow to go down. Who's the poorest out of those 4 that actually will go down?
Everyone likes to down their sorrows in more sorrow. The world is always ending after a loss and rainbows are shooting out of peoples' eyes when you win.
Ask us after Roscommon play Meath and Sligo play Cavan next Sunday. Wicklow are the only ones that seriously look a team unlikely to survive so there really only appears to be one of the much-coveted relegation spots up for grabs unless two other teams make truly spectacular attempts at being terrible.
Fermanagh are topping the division with five points so it's hardly a case of anyone blazing through everyone else, there's so many possibilities where teams have great chances of dropping points it's impossible to get a proper read on the league. If I was pushed I'd say Cavan are the best bet to be promoted because they've beat two boey teams in Meath and, much more importantly, Monaghan so if they end up level on points with either come the end of the league they hold the tie-breaker.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 05, 2013, 11:22:40 PM
Lads, so far we have Rossfan saying Roscommon will go down, a few Sligo lads saying Sligo are going down, a couple if Meath bucks claiming they will go down, while most of the rest of us expect Wicklow to go down. Who's the poorest out of those 4 that actually will go down?
It's all about the remaining fixtures
Meath - Roscommon (A), Sligo (H), Antrim (A), Fermanagh (H)
Sligo - Cavan (H), Meath (A), Fermanagh (A), Wicklow (H)
Roscommon - Meath (H), Antrim (A), Monaghan (H), Cavan (A)
TBH i think we have the toughest fixtures our form is poor & are missing a number of players. Who do you think will go down?
Quote from: Syferus on March 05, 2013, 11:59:15 PM
If I was pushed I'd say Cavan are the best bet to be promoted because they've beat two boey teams in Meath and, much more importantly, Monaghan so if they end up level on points with either come the end of the league they hold the tie-breaker.
That ridiculous scenario where someone below you in the table can be promoted ahead of you. If I recall correctly, we were relegated from division 1 on this basis, despite finishing in 6th place.
Antrim have a potentially nice "run" on the cards. Wicklow away winnable. We then get Roscommon and Meath (home advantage in both a bonus) so we could possibly be sitting on 9 points with one game left. If we finish level on points with Cavan, we have beaten them, so we will get the nod there.
Our last match, away to Monaghan looks a tough assignment, but hoping to be going there in the hunt for promotion!
Turning out to be a very interesting league - no match can be taken for granted the way things have gone so far! My guess is eleven points will win the league, and possibly two or three teams could end up on ten fighting it out for the second spot.
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 06, 2013, 09:13:41 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 05, 2013, 11:59:15 PM
If I was pushed I'd say Cavan are the best bet to be promoted because they've beat two boey teams in Meath and, much more importantly, Monaghan so if they end up level on points with either come the end of the league they hold the tie-breaker.
That ridiculous scenario where someone below you in the table can be promoted ahead of you. If I recall correctly, we were relegated from division 1 on this basis, despite finishing in 6th place.
Sure they wouldn't be below you in the table, they'd be above you on account that the rules divide teams on head to head and not score difference. What are you whinging about now?
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 06, 2013, 11:04:28 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 06, 2013, 09:13:41 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 05, 2013, 11:59:15 PM
If I was pushed I'd say Cavan are the best bet to be promoted because they've beat two boey teams in Meath and, much more importantly, Monaghan so if they end up level on points with either come the end of the league they hold the tie-breaker.
That ridiculous scenario where someone below you in the table can be promoted ahead of you. If I recall correctly, we were relegated from division 1 on this basis, despite finishing in 6th place.
Sure they wouldn't be below you in the table, they'd be above you on account that the rules divide teams on head to head and not score difference. What are you whinging about now?
My point is that up until the last game, the table is ordered in terms of points and then scoring difference. After the last game, this changes to 'head to head'. This rule makes little sense, especially given that you don't play each team both home and away.
Similarly stupid is that in Division 1, the team finishing 4th after 7 games can win the division via a semi final and final.
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 06, 2013, 11:30:29 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 06, 2013, 11:04:28 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 06, 2013, 09:13:41 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 05, 2013, 11:59:15 PM
If I was pushed I'd say Cavan are the best bet to be promoted because they've beat two boey teams in Meath and, much more importantly, Monaghan so if they end up level on points with either come the end of the league they hold the tie-breaker.
That ridiculous scenario where someone below you in the table can be promoted ahead of you. If I recall correctly, we were relegated from division 1 on this basis, despite finishing in 6th place.
Sure they wouldn't be below you in the table, they'd be above you on account that the rules divide teams on head to head and not score difference. What are you whinging about now?
My point is that up until the last game, the table is ordered in terms of points and then scoring difference. After the last game, this changes to 'head to head'. This rule makes little sense, especially given that you don't play each team both home and away.
Similarly stupid is that in Division 1, the team finishing 4th after 7 games can win the division via a semi final and final.
Sure you can't use head to head until the end as you may be level with a team you haven't played yet. Personally I prefer head to head as it rules out freak results where one teams hammers another. Anyway, they are the rules.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 06, 2013, 11:46:02 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 06, 2013, 11:30:29 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 06, 2013, 11:04:28 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 06, 2013, 09:13:41 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 05, 2013, 11:59:15 PM
If I was pushed I'd say Cavan are the best bet to be promoted because they've beat two boey teams in Meath and, much more importantly, Monaghan so if they end up level on points with either come the end of the league they hold the tie-breaker.
That ridiculous scenario where someone below you in the table can be promoted ahead of you. If I recall correctly, we were relegated from division 1 on this basis, despite finishing in 6th place.
Sure they wouldn't be below you in the table, they'd be above you on account that the rules divide teams on head to head and not score difference. What are you whinging about now?
My point is that up until the last game, the table is ordered in terms of points and then scoring difference. After the last game, this changes to 'head to head'. This rule makes little sense, especially given that you don't play each team both home and away.
Similarly stupid is that in Division 1, the team finishing 4th after 7 games can win the division via a semi final and final.
Sure you can't use head to head until the end as you may be level with a team you haven't played yet. Personally I prefer head to head as it rules out freak results where one teams hammers another. Anyway, they are the rules.
Of course if more than two teams end up on the same points that's exactly the criteria that'll be used.
Actually, I wonder does the points scored rule apply when a team finishes level on points with two teams it's beat?
Quote from: Syferus on March 06, 2013, 01:30:48 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 06, 2013, 11:46:02 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 06, 2013, 11:30:29 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 06, 2013, 11:04:28 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 06, 2013, 09:13:41 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 05, 2013, 11:59:15 PM
If I was pushed I'd say Cavan are the best bet to be promoted because they've beat two boey teams in Meath and, much more importantly, Monaghan so if they end up level on points with either come the end of the league they hold the tie-breaker.
That ridiculous scenario where someone below you in the table can be promoted ahead of you. If I recall correctly, we were relegated from division 1 on this basis, despite finishing in 6th place.
Sure they wouldn't be below you in the table, they'd be above you on account that the rules divide teams on head to head and not score difference. What are you whinging about now?
My point is that up until the last game, the table is ordered in terms of points and then scoring difference. After the last game, this changes to 'head to head'. This rule makes little sense, especially given that you don't play each team both home and away.
Similarly stupid is that in Division 1, the team finishing 4th after 7 games can win the division via a semi final and final.
Sure you can't use head to head until the end as you may be level with a team you haven't played yet. Personally I prefer head to head as it rules out freak results where one teams hammers another. Anyway, they are the rules.
Of course if more than two teams end up on the same points that's exactly the criteria that'll be used.
Actually, I wonder does the points scored rule apply when a team finishes level on points with two teams it's beat?
Yeah it still applies. In 2010 we finished joint bottom with Tyrone and Derry on 4 points. Our 2 wins were against both of them but we still only stayed up by virtue of the scoring difference. I might be wrong but I think we were even level on scoring difference with one of them and it was points scored that it went down to!.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 06, 2013, 11:46:02 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 06, 2013, 11:30:29 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 06, 2013, 11:04:28 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 06, 2013, 09:13:41 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 05, 2013, 11:59:15 PM
If I was pushed I'd say Cavan are the best bet to be promoted because they've beat two boey teams in Meath and, much more importantly, Monaghan so if they end up level on points with either come the end of the league they hold the tie-breaker.
That ridiculous scenario where someone below you in the table can be promoted ahead of you. If I recall correctly, we were relegated from division 1 on this basis, despite finishing in 6th place.
Sure they wouldn't be below you in the table, they'd be above you on account that the rules divide teams on head to head and not score difference. What are you whinging about now?
My point is that up until the last game, the table is ordered in terms of points and then scoring difference. After the last game, this changes to 'head to head'. This rule makes little sense, especially given that you don't play each team both home and away.
Similarly stupid is that in Division 1, the team finishing 4th after 7 games can win the division via a semi final and final.
Sure you can't use head to head until the end as you may be level with a team you haven't played yet. Personally I prefer head to head as it rules out freak results where one teams hammers another. Anyway, they are the rules.
Surely a head to head, based on one game (which could be home or away) is more likely to produce a freak result than scoring difference over 7 games?
Just because they're the rules doesn't mean they can't be discussed. We have our knockout Championship - I think the league should be properly based on performance over a large number of games - that's why I'd argue against any knockout type element, be that finals or head to head to decide promotions and relegations.
QuoteSurely a head to head, based on one game (which could be home or away) is more likely to produce a freak result than scoring difference over 7 games?
I think the danger of score differences etc is a game at the end against a team already promoted/relegated where you get a cricket score.
Tough game for us this weekend away to wicklow, if we have any chance of promotion we must pick up 2 points.
Quote from: ross4life on March 06, 2013, 12:57:47 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 05, 2013, 11:22:40 PM
Lads, so far we have Rossfan saying Roscommon will go down, a few Sligo lads saying Sligo are going down, a couple if Meath bucks claiming they will go down, while most of the rest of us expect Wicklow to go down. Who's the poorest out of those 4 that actually will go down?
It's all about the remaining fixtures
Meath - Roscommon (A), Sligo (H), Antrim (A), Fermanagh (H)
Sligo - Cavan (H), Meath (A), Fermanagh (A), Wicklow (H)
Roscommon - Meath (H), Antrim (A), Monaghan (H), Cavan (A)
TBH i think we have the toughest fixtures our form is poor & are missing a number of players. Who do you think will go down?
Don't know. Looking at the fixtures, Sligo seem to have the most difficult of the three. I think Roscommon will stay up anyway.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 06, 2013, 07:07:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 06, 2013, 12:57:47 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 05, 2013, 11:22:40 PM
Lads, so far we have Rossfan saying Roscommon will go down, a few Sligo lads saying Sligo are going down, a couple if Meath bucks claiming they will go down, while most of the rest of us expect Wicklow to go down. Who's the poorest out of those 4 that actually will go down?
It's all about the remaining fixtures
Meath - Roscommon (A), Sligo (H), Antrim (A), Fermanagh (H)
Sligo - Cavan (H), Meath (A), Fermanagh (A), Wicklow (H)
Roscommon - Meath (H), Antrim (A), Monaghan (H), Cavan (A)
TBH i think we have the toughest fixtures our form is poor & are missing a number of players. Who do you think will go down?
Don't know. Looking at the fixtures, Sligo seem to have the most difficult of the three. I think Roscommon will stay up anyway.
any team in the div have the potential to go down yet.
Quote from: gwan-ye-boy-ya on March 06, 2013, 10:44:45 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 06, 2013, 07:07:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 06, 2013, 12:57:47 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 05, 2013, 11:22:40 PM
Lads, so far we have Rossfan saying Roscommon will go down, a few Sligo lads saying Sligo are going down, a couple if Meath bucks claiming they will go down, while most of the rest of us expect Wicklow to go down. Who's the poorest out of those 4 that actually will go down?
It's all about the remaining fixtures
Meath - Roscommon (A), Sligo (H), Antrim (A), Fermanagh (H)
Sligo - Cavan (H), Meath (A), Fermanagh (A), Wicklow (H)
Roscommon - Meath (H), Antrim (A), Monaghan (H), Cavan (A)
TBH i think we have the toughest fixtures our form is poor & are missing a number of players. Who do you think will go down?
Don't know. Looking at the fixtures, Sligo seem to have the most difficult of the three. I think Roscommon will stay up anyway.
any team in the div have the potential to go down yet.
Any team could go up yet. We should know who is in serious trouble and who is in the race for promotion after this weekend, barring a spate of draws.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 06, 2013, 07:07:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 06, 2013, 12:57:47 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 05, 2013, 11:22:40 PM
Lads, so far we have Rossfan saying Roscommon will go down, a few Sligo lads saying Sligo are going down, a couple if Meath bucks claiming they will go down, while most of the rest of us expect Wicklow to go down. Who's the poorest out of those 4 that actually will go down?
It's all about the remaining fixtures
Meath - Roscommon (A), Sligo (H), Antrim (A), Fermanagh (H)
Sligo - Cavan (H), Meath (A), Fermanagh (A), Wicklow (H)
Roscommon - Meath (H), Antrim (A), Monaghan (H), Cavan (A)
TBH i think we have the toughest fixtures our form is poor & are missing a number of players. Who do you think will go down?
Don't know. Looking at the fixtures, Sligo seem to have the most difficult of the three. I think Roscommon will stay up anyway.
Agreed
It's very hard to see a way out of it for us. Ros have head to head on us. We play Meath in Navan. Don't see us beating Cavan or Fermanagh. Meath in Navan will be a relegation head to head and I wouldn't be exactly confident we'd win.
That said if Ros lose to Meath this weekend they could be in awful trouble. Their last 3 fixtures look very tough so we could escape with a win against Wicklow.
Of course the likelyhood is that we'll get a few surprise results along the way. Hopefully Sligo provide a couple of them but honestly can't see it.
For roscommon the Meath game is pivotal, a defeat and its difficult to see us getting anything from the three games remaining against ulster opposition. On that basis a win for sligo over wicklow will see them junp us.
Its looking like 6 pts to safety?
I cannot see us beating Cavan at home. Meath are so poor that i think we have a chance, i mean it will be tight and that for me is relegation decider. Fermanagh who normaly i wouldnt fear are flying so away to them seems tougher than usual as canavan has finally got them singing from his hymsheet. Wicklow last game is not as easy for us as its sounds but if we need to win i could see us scrapping over the line. There are no guarntees but it boils down to Meath away for me.
Glad im home for that one tbh as its the most important one.
6 points or even 5 should be safe but a team could survive on 4 (not us though).
@Farney men and women: what's the story with Vinny Corey, notionally he's been 'pushing for a place' this past few games? I know McManus is back for this one so FF would not be the place for him but he's the type of player that I would have I the team...
Sean Quigley is out for us on Saturday Night which will be a big blow. He is our highest scorer so far in the league and has been very accurate from free's and 45's. Apparently he broke the ankle playing for the U-21's so will be out for a while. Pity because he was flying and really looked like the man who could lead our forward line this year. Hopefully he will be back for the championship.
Important game for us on Saturday.
Monaghan( on paper) are a step up from any of the other teams we have faced this year and Malachy would know most of our current squad well.
We will be set up to play counter attack football. Cannot see Monaghan pushing up and playing man to man so it could be quite a defensive game with alot of men behind the ball.
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on March 08, 2013, 09:59:14 AM
@Farney men and women: what's the story with Vinny Corey, notionally he's been 'pushing for a place' this past few games? I know McManus is back for this one so FF would not be the place for him but he's the type of player that I would have I the team...
who would you suggest should make way to accommodate vinny? While i am a fan of his i cant see where he would fit in . His lack of pace was seriously exposed against down in last years championship collapse and kelly has been doing well at FB. Has he even appeared on the panel this year ?
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 07, 2013, 10:55:23 AM
It's very hard to see a way out of it for us. Ros have head to head on us. We play Meath in Navan. Don't see us beating Cavan or Fermanagh. Meath in Navan will be a relegation head to head and I wouldn't be exactly confident we'd win.
That said if Ros lose to Meath this weekend they could be in awful trouble. Their last 3 fixtures look very tough so we could escape with a win against Wicklow.
Of course the likelyhood is that we'll get a few surprise results along the way. Hopefully Sligo provide a couple of them but honestly can't see it.
I reckon Sligo will stay up.... maybe Im over optomistic but i think we will win both home games and might even get something in meath - considering Meaths recent form. I know Cavan are going well at present but we usually do well at home and I fancy us to catch them on the hop this weekend. If it does comes down to a survival battle at home to Wicklow we should just do enough. Any chance James Kilcullan will start on Sunday? Hopefully his additional to the squad will be the timely boost we need to stay up. (no pressure on the poor lad then!!)
3 changes for Monaghan. Keogh back in goals even though Beggan played well last week. Hughes back in for McAdam who again did ok on Sunday. Finally McManus for McGuinness who was quiet enough on sunday yet still hit 1-1. Will be a tough game.
Quote from: cluaineois on March 08, 2013, 11:16:12 AMwho would you suggest should make way to accommodate vinny? While i am a fan of his i cant see where he would fit in . His lack of pace was seriously exposed against down in last years championship collapse and kelly has been doing well at FB. Has he even appeared on the panel this year ?
I am from outside Clones (Killeevan to be exact, much to your horror I'm sure.. ;)) myself so I don't for a second think that Fintan (Kelly) should make way.. In fact I would say he has grown into the role compared to his first McKenna cup outing. It's probably a bit ideological of me to be honest but a fully fit Vinny Corey I believe is still a valuable asset. He's a great man to run at the heart of the opposition defense, a good ploy in my book and especially so in this encounter as that's exactly what Fermanagh will do i.e. running at the Monaghan defense and getting men forward in support of the man on the ball. Vinny has been a solid defender too and doesn't forget his primary duty, if played as a defender..
As you rightly say though, has he even made the panel this year? I don't know.. If fit though then he should be pushing Karl O'Connell or Kieran Duffy for a starting berth..
Quote from: FermGael on March 08, 2013, 10:43:45 AM(on paper)
Paper and wet heavy Fermanagh soil are two different things FermGael.. :) I would imagine this local derby will rip up the so-called paper.. It'll be tight..
Division 3 is a lot like Division 2 if you ask me.
Everyone keeps beating us.
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on March 08, 2013, 01:27:55 PM
Quote from: cluaineois on March 08, 2013, 11:16:12 AMwho would you suggest should make way to accommodate vinny? While i am a fan of his i cant see where he would fit in . His lack of pace was seriously exposed against down in last years championship collapse and kelly has been doing well at FB. Has he even appeared on the panel this year ?
I am from outside Clones (Killeevan to be exact, much to your horror I'm sure.. ;)) myself so I don't for a second think that Fintan (Kelly) should make way.. In fact I would say he has grown into the role compared to his first McKenna cup outing. It's probably a bit ideological of me to be honest but a fully fit Vinny Corey I believe is still a valuable asset. He's a great man to run at the heart of the opposition defense, a good ploy in my book and especially so in this encounter as that's exactly what Fermanagh will do i.e. running at the Monaghan defense and getting men forward in support of the man on the ball. Vinny has been a solid defender too and doesn't forget his primary duty, if played as a defender..
As you rightly say though, has he even made the panel this year? I don't know.. If fit though then he should be pushing Karl O'Connell or Kieran Duffy for a starting berth..
I haven't seen vinny togged out yet this year. As you say if he's fully fit its a good decision to have to make. I wouldn't be pushed on moving Kelly yet either, think he deserves to stay put for the time being. In fact I wouldn't touch the full back line at all, which only leaves 7 up for grabs. with O Connell, McAdam Wylie (I'd like to see more of him) the front runners for it at the moment.
That really only leaves the edge of the square for him, with Finlay at 11. Never thought the half forward line suited vinny. Anyway it's easy saying all this after a win and when things are looking middling but another Cavan performance at the weekend could rewrite it all!.
Quote from: Jinxy on March 08, 2013, 01:32:00 PM
Division 3 is a lot like Division 2 if you ask me.
Everyone keeps beating us.
Nobody really cares.
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Quote from: cluaineois on March 08, 2013, 11:16:12 AMwho would you suggest should make way to accommodate vinny? While i am a fan of his i cant see where he would fit in . His lack of pace was seriously exposed against down in last years championship collapse and kelly has been doing well at FB. Has he even appeared on the panel this year ?
I am from outside Clones (Killeevan to be exact, much to your horror I'm sure.. ;)) myself so I don't for a second think that Fintan (Kelly) should make way.. In fact I would say he has grown into the role compared to his first McKenna cup outing. It's probably a bit ideological of me to be honest but a fully fit Vinny Corey I believe is still a valuable asset. He's a great man to run at the heart of the opposition defense, a good ploy in my book and especially so in this encounter as that's exactly what Fermanagh will do i.e. running at the Monaghan defense and getting men forward in support of the man on the ball. Vinny has been a solid defender too and doesn't forget his primary duty, if played as a defender..
As you rightly say though, has he even made the panel this year? I don't know.. If fit though then he should be pushing Karl O'Connell or Kieran Duffy for a starting berth..
I haven't seen vinny togged out yet this year. As you say if he's fully fit its a good decision to have to make. I wouldn't be pushed on moving Kelly yet either, think he deserves to stay put for the time being. In fact I wouldn't touch the full back line at all, which only leaves 7 up for grabs. with O Connell, McAdam Wylie (I'd like to see more of him) the front runners for it at the moment.
That really only leaves the edge of the square for him, with Finlay at 11. Never thought the half forward line suited vinny. Anyway it's easy saying all this after a win and when things are looking middling but another Cavan performance at the weekend could rewrite it all!.
Totally agree with everything there, especially the difference in perception between another Cavan show and a win... :-)
Good to have a much needed away win under our belts. That's a monkey off our backs and we should be looking to continue it from here. Couldn't make it tonight, but by the sounds of Northern Sound, Monaghan should have won by more. Fermanagh were down a few key players, so we shouldn't get carried away with this one.
Delighted with the win first and foremost as Fermanagh are always a tricky assignment for Monaghan. I thought we'd rue the missed penalty and subsequent point scoring chances. Fermanagh were much quicker out of the blocks and had 4pts on the board before Monaghan got their hands on the ball.. Monaghan then got to grips around the middle and Dessie Mone tightened up on Paul Ward mitigating the threat of Fermanagh. It sounded like there were some fantastic points scored.. Tommy Freeman seems to be a bit rusty (understandably) so the game time will have done him good. McAdam made a big difference when we was introduced as Fermanagh were definitely winning the mid-field battle at that point.
Hopefully Monaghan can push on from this..
Good win tonight. Struggled for long periods in midfield but Mc Adam made a big difference when he came on good to see malone back.
Disappointed with tonight's result. Same old story with Fermanagh but it's a different manager. We just do not have a forward who can put it over from outside the 40. Monaghan worked that out after 10 minutes. When they got the ball they moved it early. Too much lateral and backward movement by Fermanagh which usually ended up going nowhere. Monaghan also made some telling substitutions in the second half while the Fermanagh substitutes did not really work.
Huge game next week against Cavan. Lose and we will be looking ever our shoulders. Win and we are right in the hunt for promotion.
Monaghan winning reduced the maximum possible points total even further so that helps everyone bar Fermanagh.
If Cavan beat Sligo at Mark. Park tomorrow then themselves and Monaghan are the clear favourites for promotion. Wouldn't be surprised by Sligo winning that one, it may be against the form book but this division is sure to throw up more unexpected results.
Good win for Monaghan tonight and very hard earned. A terrible start conceding 4 points without reply. But with Duffy, McManus and Finlay kicking some super scores we managed to turn things around. McAdam did very well when introduced for Clerkin. Fermanagh will be disappointed with some of the scoreable chances missed throughout.
Since their win over us injuries have hit Fermanagh hard. I think they would have beaten Monaghan,Antrim if James Sherry,Sean Quigley etc were fit. If Cavan win tomorrow (won't be easy away to Sligo) i would fancy them for promotion along side Monaghan.
Monaghan will be a threat this year in ulster
Quote from: ck on March 10, 2013, 12:59:47 AM
Monaghan will be a threat this year in ulster
Wouldn't get too carried away yet CK . while it was good to get our first away win in the league since 2009 a two point win over an understrength Fermanagh wont have scared Donegal or Tyrone too much.
Quote from: ck on March 10, 2013, 12:59:47 AM
Monaghan will be a threat this year in ulster
When Cavan beat them it was relegation they were set for, now they beat Fermanagh and they'll be a threat in Ulster? Neither I reckon, although they should be favourites for promotion as they have a strong team on paper. Todays game for Cavan will tell if we are truly in the promotion hunt. A win and I think we have a great chance. Weather is stormy in Sligo today so that will be a great leveler.
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Quote from: ck on March 10, 2013, 12:59:47 AM
Monaghan will be a threat this year in ulster
When Cavan beat them it was relegation they were set for, now they beat Fermanagh and they'll be a threat in Ulster? Neither I reckon, although they should be favourites for promotion as they have a strong team on paper. Todays game for Cavan will tell if we are truly in the promotion hunt...
Hopefully Cavan do get promoted, along with Monaghan, if for no other reason than to meet in a Division 3 final in Croker. Monaghan wouldn't get caught off the hop in that one and a certain know-all would be put back in his horsebox ;)
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Quote from: ck on March 10, 2013, 12:59:47 AM
Monaghan will be a threat this year in ulster
When Cavan beat them it was relegation they were set for, now they beat Fermanagh and they'll be a threat in Ulster? Neither I reckon, although they should be favourites for promotion as they have a strong team on paper. Todays game for Cavan will tell if we are truly in the promotion hunt...
Hopefully Cavan do get promoted, along with Monaghan, if for no other reason than to meet in a Division 3 final in Croker. Monaghan wouldn't get caught off the hop in that one and a certain know-all would be put you back in his horsebox ;)
I'm sure the know all would be impressed if he could understand what you were saying in that last line?
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 10, 2013, 09:22:48 AM
Quote from: ck on March 10, 2013, 12:59:47 AM
Monaghan will be a threat this year in ulster
When Cavan beat them it was relegation they were set for, now they beat Fermanagh and they'll be a threat in Ulster? Neither I reckon, although they should be favourites for promotion as they have a strong team on paper. Todays game for Cavan will tell if we are truly in the promotion hunt. A win and I think we have a great chance. Weather is stormy in Sligo today so that will be a great leveler.
Neither relegation nor a threat in Ulster but promotion (should)... Thanks for the vote of confidence anyhow Myles, it makes a change from your unrelenting bias towards Monaghan.
Enjoy your day out in the inclement (levelling) conditions today in Sligo and let's hope we meet again this year..
We made a 1 point donation to Cavan today.
5 pts up with a couple of mins left - 2 desperate turnovers by cawley and mcintyre and a lucky goal gave cavan a drawthey didnot deservein my opinion.
On the positive side, a very much improved performance from the spineless outing in clones and. I think we now have solid midfield choices and Hughes might be the ff we have lacked for years.
Pride restored, pity we didnt get the two pts we deserved.
Tight group - that point might cost us dearly but i think we will survive
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 10, 2013, 03:55:13 PM
We made a 1 point donation to Cavan today.
5 pts up with a couple of mins left - 2 desperate turnovers by cawley and mcintyre and a lucky goal gave cavan a drawthey didnot deservein my opinion.
On the positive side, a very much improved performance from the spineless outing in clones and. I think we now have solid midfield choices and Hughes might be the ff we have lacked for years.
Pride restored, pity we didnt get the two pts we deserved.
Tight group - that point might cost us dearly but i think we will survive
What was lucky about the goal, it was a brilliant ball in fisted to the net? The Sligo goal was the gift me boy. Draw was a fair result in my opinion (even if we did need a late goal to get it) given you probably only got 3/4 points from play the entire match. Sligo are not the crap team some of their "fans" would have us believe on here. It was a hard hitting, physical game. We would be a bit disappointed we made so many terrible unforced errors and didn't bag a goal or two from very promising positions. Like I said, fair result, Fermanagh next.
Promotion race is wide open even Meath will fancy their changes after today results. Will be a big shock if ourselves & Wicklow are not relegated now.
I expected a Cavan win today but would be delighted with the draw considering how the game panned out. Great to see such fight and determination from our lads. The management deserve credit too, the two subs arguably won the point for Cavan
Fair point it was a good goal i meant we were unlucky to concede a goal at the end of thr game.
Trust me we were total crap in clones, lucky to score at all.
I think you were very lucky to get a draw and am not convinced a draw was a fair result but it is the result.
Good luck with the rest od the campaign, now we travel to Navan to face a meath team have finally woke up.
We need to get some points from our away games
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Quote from: sligoman2 on March 10, 2013, 03:55:13 PM
We made a 1 point donation to Cavan today.
5 pts up with a couple of mins left - 2 desperate turnovers by cawley and mcintyre and a lucky goal gave cavan a drawthey didnot deservein my opinion.
On the positive side, a very much improved performance from the spineless outing in clones and. I think we now have solid midfield choices and Hughes might be the ff we have lacked for years.
Pride restored, pity we didnt get the two pts we deserved.
Tight group - that point might cost us dearly but i think we will survive
What was lucky about the goal, it was a brilliant ball in fisted to the net? The Sligo goal was the gift me boy. Draw was a fair result in my opinion (even if we did need a late goal to get it) given you probably only got 3/4 points from play the entire match. Sligo are not the crap team some of their "fans" would have us believe on here. It was a hard hitting, physical game. We would be a bit disappointed we made so many terrible unforced errors and didn't bag a goal or two from very promising positions. Like I said, fair result, Fermanagh next.
what does "fans" mean exactly? You clearly don't read our posts and we can speak for ourselves. Whilst we've played crap consistently over the last 2yrs, there have been a few outstanding wins. However I and others have said consistently said our management is crap. We did well today but let's see if we can repeat it and where was this work rate last week, no guarntee we will get next week either? Maybe you can tell us seems as your such an expert on Sligo football now.
Before today's game I would taken a point, but we should of held on clearly and closed the game out and slowed it down. Looking forward to coming next weekend for Meath away, defo the biggest game of the league.
Where were all the sligo fans today sligonian. We seemed to out number ye. Last time I was in sligo it was much better crowd.
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I'm worried about Div 4. Point in Aughrim is usually not too bad but we had numerical advantage (Wicklow finished with 13) and shouldve won that today.
Game v Ros, Meath, then Monaghan to come.
Need to beat Ros or its Div 4 i fear
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Looks decent for Monaghan at this stage, especially given that Fermanagh and Cavan have still to meet, so one or both of them will drop points there.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 10, 2013, 06:28:03 PM
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Quote from: sligoman2 on March 10, 2013, 03:55:13 PM
We made a 1 point donation to Cavan today.
5 pts up with a couple of mins left - 2 desperate turnovers by cawley and mcintyre and a lucky goal gave cavan a drawthey didnot deservein my opinion.
On the positive side, a very much improved performance from the spineless outing in clones and. I think we now have solid midfield choices and Hughes might be the ff we have lacked for years.
Pride restored, pity we didnt get the two pts we deserved.
Tight group - that point might cost us dearly but i think we will survive
What was lucky about the goal, it was a brilliant ball in fisted to the net? The Sligo goal was the gift me boy. Draw was a fair result in my opinion (even if we did need a late goal to get it) given you probably only got 3/4 points from play the entire match. Sligo are not the crap team some of their "fans" would have us believe on here. It was a hard hitting, physical game. We would be a bit disappointed we made so many terrible unforced errors and didn't bag a goal or two from very promising positions. Like I said, fair result, Fermanagh next.
what does "fans" mean exactly? You clearly don't read our posts and we can speak for ourselves. Whilst we've played crap consistently over the last 2yrs, there have been a few outstanding wins. However I and others have said consistently said our management is crap. We did well today but let's see if we can repeat it and where was this work rate last week, no guarntee we will get next week either? Maybe you can tell us seems as your such an expert on Sligo football now.
Before today's game I would taken a point, but we should of held on clearly and closed the game out and slowed it down. Looking forward to coming next weekend for Meath away, defo the biggest game of the league.
Well since you asked my opinion on Sligo football here it is. You have no underage success, you have won a handful of provincial titles, you have made no in roads in club football in Connacht. You are from a county that is split between soccer and GAA. You have many GAA clubs that are struggling for numbers. That is where you are - am i wrong? That is why personally I think Walsh has done a good job to win provincial title, to be contesting provincial finals and I knew that today, with Sligo with their backs against the walls, they would be tough bet. I don't personally understand what make you and others think that another manager would do so much better. That's what I think.
I think Sligonion will go into melt down after reading that last post.
Why would anyone go into meltdown over that post. Its mostly factual to the best of my limited knowledge with a difference of opinion on whether the current sligo management is getting the best of what is at their disposal. That's how I read it anyway.
Good man myles ;D. The only thing you omitted was their deep dislike for Mayo teams.
This just in...... Myles hates Sligo.
Quote from: Jinxy on March 10, 2013, 10:50:58 PM
This just in...... Myles hates Sligo.
I would never use the word "hate" about any team. Even for big thick Meath muckers. I have a lot of time for Sligo and I enjoyed seeing them raise their stock of recent times. I just don't see why some think Sligo would be better with different management.
Quote from: hardstation on March 10, 2013, 07:45:56 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 10, 2013, 07:23:10 PM
I'm worried about Div 4. Point in Aughrim is usually not too bad but we had numerical advantage (Wicklow finished with 13) and shouldve won that today.
Game v Ros, Meath, then Monaghan to come.
Need to beat Ros or its Div 4 i fear
Funny, I reckon we have a fair shout for promotion. Next two are very winnable.
Cant believe your an Antrim fan and optimistic!
We're giving away stupid goals and scores. Should have held the ball v Fermanagh to see out the game (when point up in injury time) but Murray took ball into contact when didnt have to , lost ball and Ferm scored. Same today with Tony Scullion when we were a point up.
Awful 1st goal given away too. Dropped uncontested ball in full back line
R Murray and Tomas played well so ok up front but need to tighten up at back
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 10, 2013, 08:37:41 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 10, 2013, 06:28:03 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 10, 2013, 04:59:22 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 10, 2013, 03:55:13 PM
We made a 1 point donation to Cavan today.
5 pts up with a couple of mins left - 2 desperate turnovers by cawley and mcintyre and a lucky goal gave cavan a drawthey didnot deservein my opinion.
On the positive side, a very much improved performance from the spineless outing in clones and. I think we now have solid midfield choices and Hughes might be the ff we have lacked for years.
Pride restored, pity we didnt get the two pts we deserved.
Tight group - that point might cost us dearly but i think we will survive
What was lucky about the goal, it was a brilliant ball in fisted to the net? The Sligo goal was the gift me boy. Draw was a fair result in my opinion (even if we did need a late goal to get it) given you probably only got 3/4 points from play the entire match. Sligo are not the crap team some of their "fans" would have us believe on here. It was a hard hitting, physical game. We would be a bit disappointed we made so many terrible unforced errors and didn't bag a goal or two from very promising positions. Like I said, fair result, Fermanagh next.
what does "fans" mean exactly? You clearly don't read our posts and we can speak for ourselves. Whilst we've played crap consistently over the last 2yrs, there have been a few outstanding wins. However I and others have said consistently said our management is crap. We did well today but let's see if we can repeat it and where was this work rate last week, no guarntee we will get next week either? Maybe you can tell us seems as your such an expert on Sligo football now.
Before today's game I would taken a point, but we should of held on clearly and closed the game out and slowed it down. Looking forward to coming next weekend for Meath away, defo the biggest game of the league.
Well since you asked my opinion on Sligo football here it is. You have no underage success, you have won a handful of provincial titles, you have made no in roads in club football in Connacht. You are from a county that is split between soccer and GAA. You have many GAA clubs that are struggling for numbers. That is where you are - am i wrong? That is why personally I think Walsh has done a good job to win provincial title, to be contesting provincial finals and I knew that today, with Sligo with their backs against the walls, they would be tough bet. I don't personally understand what make you and others think that another manager would do so much better. That's what I think.
lol ya you are wrong, Tommy brehony was manager when we won Connacht in 07 you numpty (fact), we are all way more familar with our club scene than any of ye on here, your view is very generalised to be fair, you dont talk about tactics, gameplan, consistency, player man management, team selection, players available but not selected, gk selection, etc...these are things i judge a manager on not the usual excuses you list above. Add in our record in 2011 of 23 games 4 wins 1 competitve, hes had 5yrs, we want to win connacht again, i believe the players are there and a fresh approach is needed, to much loyalty to inconsistent players who are in there comfort zone, ya we got a reaction yday to the farce in clones but its not enough for me 1 game, i want to see it every game.
The advantage about being in d3 for meath is that none of the other teams are particularly efficient. So even if they lost 2 matches they are only one win away from the promotion spots. But can they be arsed to win again ?
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 11, 2013, 04:50:08 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 10, 2013, 08:37:41 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 10, 2013, 06:28:03 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 10, 2013, 04:59:22 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 10, 2013, 03:55:13 PM
We made a 1 point donation to Cavan today.
5 pts up with a couple of mins left - 2 desperate turnovers by cawley and mcintyre and a lucky goal gave cavan a drawthey didnot deservein my opinion.
On the positive side, a very much improved performance from the spineless outing in clones and. I think we now have solid midfield choices and Hughes might be the ff we have lacked for years.
Pride restored, pity we didnt get the two pts we deserved.
Tight group - that point might cost us dearly but i think we will survive
What was lucky about the goal, it was a brilliant ball in fisted to the net? The Sligo goal was the gift me boy. Draw was a fair result in my opinion (even if we did need a late goal to get it) given you probably only got 3/4 points from play the entire match. Sligo are not the crap team some of their "fans" would have us believe on here. It was a hard hitting, physical game. We would be a bit disappointed we made so many terrible unforced errors and didn't bag a goal or two from very promising positions. Like I said, fair result, Fermanagh next.
what does "fans" mean exactly? You clearly don't read our posts and we can speak for ourselves. Whilst we've played crap consistently over the last 2yrs, there have been a few outstanding wins. However I and others have said consistently said our management is crap. We did well today but let's see if we can repeat it and where was this work rate last week, no guarntee we will get next week either? Maybe you can tell us seems as your such an expert on Sligo football now.
Before today's game I would taken a point, but we should of held on clearly and closed the game out and slowed it down. Looking forward to coming next weekend for Meath away, defo the biggest game of the league.
Well since you asked my opinion on Sligo football here it is. You have no underage success, you have won a handful of provincial titles, you have made no in roads in club football in Connacht. You are from a county that is split between soccer and GAA. You have many GAA clubs that are struggling for numbers. That is where you are - am i wrong? That is why personally I think Walsh has done a good job to win provincial title, to be contesting provincial finals and I knew that today, with Sligo with their backs against the walls, they would be tough bet. I don't personally understand what make you and others think that another manager would do so much better. That's what I think.
lol ya you are wrong, Tommy brehony was manager when we won Connacht in 07 you numpty (fact), we are all way more familar with our club scene than any of ye on here, your view is very generalised to be fair, you dont talk about tactics, gameplan, consistency, player man management, team selection, players available but not selected, gk selection, etc...these are things i judge a manager on not the usual excuses you list above. Add in our record in 2011 of 23 games 4 wins 1 competitve, hes had 5yrs, we want to win connacht again, i believe the players are there and a fresh approach is needed, to much loyalty to inconsistent players who are in there comfort zone, ya we got a reaction yday to the farce in clones but its not enough for me 1 game, i want to see it every game.
Yes sorry my bad RE: Tommy Brehony. However, and I don't want to get into a slagging match, I still believe my post is relevant. I don't claim to know sligo club football inside out but I know where I live in West Sligo the teams in my area (Enniscrone, Easkey and Farnans) are really struggling for numbers and only Castleconnor seem to be a threat to anyone. I think, with the club football level you have and the lack of underage success that ye are actually doing very well in the provincial championship. Good luck in the rest of the league anyway.
*Comes in, has a look around, looks for a comfy chair near the fire*
See ye next year lads, I missed ye.
Quote from: seafoid on March 11, 2013, 07:17:37 AM
The advantage about being in d3 for meath is that none of the other teams are particularly efficient. So even if they lost 2 matches they are only one win away from the promotion spots. But can they be arsed to win again ?
No, I'd imagine they want to be relegated for the second consecutive year.. And work their way up from Division 4. ::)
Why do people think you have to win things at underage to be successful at adult level? I don't understand that. You need to be competitive and bring a decent ratio of players through and we have been doing that by and large. Mismanagement and mental frailty have meant we haven't put underage titles on the board but we have plenty of decent players in Sligo. There is a strong feeling in Sligo that the manager has made mistakes in the past with team selection, tactics, motivation and continues to do so. Add to that the way he has treated arguably our greatest ever player (who just last summer almost turned the Connacht final in our favour) and several others who have given great service over the years. Perhaps there is and argument that you have to move on from older players at some stage but if that is the case (and I don't agree that it is) then do it in an honest way, not the sleeveen way it was done. He has treated club football in the county with utter contempt also. Filling wheelie bins with sand and dragging them round sand dunes is something our top young forward had to do the day before a county U-20 A championship final last November.
On a seperate note, the West Sligo clubs problems aren't simply down to population. How can Castleconnor be competitive when they're a smaller parish than some of the others?
Myles - you might hear a bit out in West Sligo but I reckon you don't know the half of it. None of us said our team was crap. I don't like criticising anyone and I'm of the opinion there are some brilliant guys involved in the management setup but I am firmly of the opinion that the manager is not improving matters. The opinion held by Sligonian and I on this is shared by large numbers of GAA people in Sligo. Perhaps we're all wrong and Myles is right.
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 11, 2013, 10:10:01 AM
Why do people think you have to win things at underage to be successful at adult level? I don't understand that. You need to be competitive and bring a decent ratio of players through and we have been doing that by and large. Mismanagement and mental frailty have meant we haven't put underage titles on the board but we have plenty of decent players in Sligo. There is a strong feeling in Sligo that the manager has made mistakes in the past with team selection, tactics, motivation and continues to do so. Add to that the way he has treated arguably our greatest ever player (who just last summer almost turned the Connacht final in our favour) and several others who have given great service over the years. Perhaps there is and argument that you have to move on from older players at some stage but if that is the case (and I don't agree that it is) then do it in an honest way, not the sleeveen way it was done. He has treated club football in the county with utter contempt also. Filling wheelie bins with sand and dragging them round sand dunes is something our top young forward had to do the day before a county U-20 A championship final last November.
On a seperate note, the West Sligo clubs problems aren't simply down to population. How can Castleconnor be competitive when they're a smaller parish than some of the others?
Myles - you might hear a bit out in West Sligo but I reckon you don't know the half of it. None of us said our team was crap. I don't like criticising anyone and I'm of the opinion there are some brilliant guys involved in the management setup but I am firmly of the opinion that the manager is not improving matters. The opinion held by Sligonian and I on this is shared by large numbers of GAA people in Sligo. Perhaps we're all wrong and Myles is right.
Well said Seanie and the other side Myles is look at Roscommon with all their underage success, it doesnt guarntee anything, as said you only need a few to develop after minor, u21 to keep you ticking.
In Sligo i have found we'd have 3/4 top class underage players in most underage teams and the rest noticable average which means we dont win anything although managers are an issue at that level too. We'd bring through the 3/4 simple as that really.
Walsh has long overstayed his welcome.
Underage might not mean success but I believe it is an indication of how well the GAA affairs of a county are being run. Again, thats just my opinion.
If ye think getting rid of Walsh is the way to go then fair enough. I'm not convinced.
One question. Where do you think Sligos level is with the talent available to them. Div 2, Connacht champions, top 8 in the country? Just wondering.
I certainly think we are good enough to be challenging for promotion rather than facing relegation. I think we should have a couple of more Connacht titles under our belt in Walsh's time. I don't think we should be getting well beaten by Leitrim in Markievicz Park or absolutely eviscerated by Down and Kildare in the qualifiers. I don't think we should be beating Mayo and Galway and then losing a Connacht final to Roscommon (no offense Rossies). I'm not sure how you quantify top 8 in the country in a knock out sport but I think we should be able to hold our own with all but the very best. You do realise Mayo beat us by 2 points in the Connacht final last year and we have a keeper who cannot kick the ball out? Did they improve immeasurably in the few weeks that followed?
In terms of how GAA affairs are run in the county there are clear problems at county board level. However coaching and player development, development squads is actually quite good. Schools football is much improved. Our underage team might not be winningtitles but are generally competitive when not long ago big beatings were the norm.
I can imagine some of the stuff you'd hear where you are located. I hear it back too. I'd just caution that all of it might not be true. One of the clubs you mention is lucky to be in existence with their carry on and you'd swear they were the victims of some great injustice!
I know full well some of the eejits running those clubs, believe me!
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 11, 2013, 12:11:23 PM
I know full well some of the eejits running those clubs, believe me!
We're on the same page there so!
It's not just those clubs mind - there are problems with other clubs and the county board has failed to provide what I would think to be a decent level of assistance.
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 11, 2013, 10:10:01 AM
Why do people think you have to win things at underage to be successful at adult level?
Because no team in the last 10 years has won an All-Ireland without underage success
Donegal 2012- u-21 AI final 2010
Dublin 2011 - u21 2010
Cork 2010- u21 2007/09
Kerry 2004/06/07/09 - u21 1998/2008
Tyrone 2003/5/8 - Minor 1998/2001/2004/2008, u21 2000/01
Few teams have managed to make any big breakthrough without doing something at underage
Down 2010 AI Final - Minor 2005
Laois 2003 Leinster- Minor 1996/97, 2003
Trying to diminish the importance of winning at underage isn't a good tact, particularly for smaller counties like Sligo where it's even more important so you drill into players that they should have not inferiority complex when they play their local rivals.
It's no garentee of success at the next stage but it has been a huge help for many counties in achieving at senior level.
Sligo have some good colleges sides - Tubbercurry alone completed a treple of back-to-back Connacht B titles with a league title inbetween just last Saturday. Sligo should focus on translating that into being competitive at minor level before they worry about anything else.
Sligo have been quite competitive at minor/u-21 recently without managing to win a title. Personally feel we should have won a fair deal in the last 20 years but a combination of things has prevented that. There is a psychological aspect - I will accept that - but it didn't stop the senior team in 2007. These things can be worked on. Of course I'd love underage trophies but take it from someone who won a scatter of underage medals - it doesn't mean much when you get to senior.
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 11, 2013, 11:25:38 PM
Sligo have been quite competitive at minor/u-21 recently without managing to win a title. Personally feel we should have won a fair deal in the last 20 years but a combination of things has prevented that. There is a psychological aspect - I will accept that - but it didn't stop the senior team in 2007. These things can be worked on. Of course I'd love underage trophies but take it from someone who won a scatter of underage medals - it doesn't mean much when you get to senior.
Well by competitive I did mean winning a title or two, Sligo have been a danger at underage for quite a while now. Mayo, Galway and ourselves having a near-monopoly on underage inter-county titles does a county with three senior Connacht titles (and just two minor titles) to its name no good. For counties our size underage success does more than just help the players feel good about themselves, it energises supporters and coaches to come to more games, to do that little more to help players develop, it just adds a new level of enthusiasm for the sport. Hope can be a powerful force in counties that don't have an abundance of it.
I don't think it's much good at adult level unless you've got a manager capable of turning a winning mentality at underage into something useful at senior but obviously a lot of you guys don't seem to think you even have that right now.
Back to the subject in hand...
Next weekends fixtures are..
Monaghan v Wicklow
Antrim v Roscommon
Meath v Sligo
Cavan v Fermanagh
I am going to go for wins for Monaghan, Antrim, Sligo & Cavan.
If that comes to pass it would leave
Monaghan - 8
Cavan - 7
Antrim - 6
Fermanagh - 5
Sligo - 5
Meath - 4
Roscommon - 3
Wicklow - 2
That means anyone in the top 5 could still get promoted with 2 games left and anyone in the bottom 5 could still get relegated. Its as tight as a ducks arse!
Think Meath will have enough to beat Sligo. Not sure about Fermanagh/Cavan - wouldn't rule out a draw there.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 12, 2013, 10:07:33 AM
Back to the subject in hand...
Next weekends fixtures are..
Monaghan v Wicklow
Antrim v Roscommon
Meath v Sligo
Cavan v Fermanagh
I am going to go for wins for Monaghan, Antrim, Sligo & Cavan.
If that comes to pass it would leave
Monaghan - 8
Cavan - 7
Antrim - 6
Fermanagh - 5
Sligo - 5
Meath - 4
Roscommon - 3
Wicklow - 2
That means anyone in the top 5 could still get promoted with 2 games left and anyone in the bottom 5 could still get relegated. Its as tight as a ducks arse!
I really hope your right but its a huge task for us......
All I can tell you is that Sligo played us with 10 times the intensity that Meath did. I think if Sligo are up for then they will win.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 12, 2013, 11:00:08 AM
All I can tell you is that Sligo played us with 10 times the intensity that Meath did. I think if Sligo are up for then they will win.
There's a school of thought that says Meath would be under more pressure at home in Navan than away. I'm hoping that that's the case. Sunday was better for us, I hope it's a turning point and not aonther false dawn.
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 12, 2013, 11:09:16 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 12, 2013, 11:00:08 AM
All I can tell you is that Sligo played us with 10 times the intensity that Meath did. I think if Sligo are up for then they will win.
There's a school of thought that says Meath would be under more pressure at home in Navan than away. I'm hoping that that's the case. Sunday was better for us, I hope it's a turning point and not aonther false dawn.
False dawn is the word, we are the king of false dawns. Myles we only usually get intensity like that after the players get criticised heavily and they react in a good way dont get me wrong.
But heres the point why does it take that to get a performance in the first place. It will be interesting to see what we get on Saturday but id say it will be somewhere inbetween the intensity of cavan game and monaghan one. Sad really but sligofans have seen it too many times in the past and player are experts in repeating old mistakes and habits.
QuoteThere's a school of thought that says Meath would be under more pressure at home in Navan than away.
Before the present campaign, all the evidence was in favour of better performance at home than away so this school of thought is relatively recent. Even so, you may be right given recent collapses. I think we may have enough to overcome the Sligo challenge if we bring intensity to it, and play the right team of course! I cautiously predict Meath by three in that fixture. I'll go for Monaghan, Antrim and a draw in the Cavan - Fermanagh game as well.
Quote from: Syferus on March 12, 2013, 12:19:50 AM
unless you've got a manager capable of turning a winning mentality at underage into something useful at senior
We've been failing spectacularly at turning underage success into anything consistent at Senior level and it can't be all down to managers ( Mind you your favourite Des N. didn't help :-[)
We seem to be producing decent teams of useful underage players from our Development squad system but few if any seem to be able to do anything worthwhile at Senior.
So are we producing the wrong kind of player? Seems like it.
If we continue to plough along in the lower reaches of the NFL and do damn all at Championship level for a few more years all that underage success will be long forgotten.
Who can name the 4 Provincial minor and U 21 winners from 2009 for example without looking it up?
Monaghan Antrim Meath and Cavan to win at the weekend
Quote from: Rossfan on March 12, 2013, 02:05:54 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 12, 2013, 12:19:50 AM
unless you've got a manager capable of turning a winning mentality at underage into something useful at senior
We've been failing spectacularly at turning underage success into anything consistent at Senior level and it can't be all down to managers ( Mind you your favourite Des N. didn't help :-[)
We seem to be producing decent teams of useful underage players from our Development squad system but few if any seem to be able to do anything worthwhile at Senior.
So are we producing the wrong kind of player? Seems like it.
If we continue to plough along in the lower reaches of the NFL and do damn all at Championship level for a few more years all that underage success will be long forgotten.
Who can name the 4 Provincial minor and U 21 winners from 2009 for example without looking it up?
Monaghan Antrim Meath and Cavan to win at the weekend
Mayo won the Connacht u21 and minor in 2009 ( well the rossies threw away that title in the drawn match in galway!)
Down won the Ulster U21 and Armagh won the minor.
Dublin won the Leinster U21 and the minor?
Cork won the Munster U21 and Kerry the minor.
If you are bothered Rossfan you can check if I'm right. I think I got all the U21's right but the only minor I am sure off is Connacht because I was at the drawn game in Pearse park and Ulster because Armagh bet us in the All Ireland final. I could be wrong an all counts though but that's what the internet is for ;).
Point I was making is that no matter how successful you might be at underage people generally only remember Senior success.
I recall 2009 too bloody well - Minor -we should have won by a cricket score in Salthill but were brutal in the replay
U21 the BIG comeback v Rhubarbs in Charlestown only to be haeld to a draw by conceding a last minute goal.
Quote from: Ard-Rí on March 12, 2013, 01:50:07 PM
QuoteThere's a school of thought that says Meath would be under more pressure at home in Navan than away.
Before the present campaign, all the evidence was in favour of better performance at home than away so this school of thought is relatively recent. Even so, you may be right given recent collapses. I think we may have enough to overcome the Sligo challenge if we bring intensity to it, and play the right team of course! I cautiously predict Meath by three in that fixture. I'll go for Monaghan, Antrim and a draw in the Cavan - Fermanagh game as well.
Not claiming for one second to be an expert on Meath but I've heard that theory floated about recently.
You'll not make much money betting on Div3 this season.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 12, 2013, 03:29:58 PM
Point I was making is that no matter how successful you might be at underage people generally only remember Senior success.
I recall 2009 too bloody well - Minor -we should have won by a cricket score in Salthill but were brutal in the replay
U21 the BIG comeback v Rhubarbs in Charlestown only to be haeld to a draw by conceding a last minute goal.
Ah now rosfan you could have said 1999 where some wouldn't remember. I'm trying my best to forget 2009 and you had to bring it up again :( You can have some of the best underage talents around but it won't matter much if the senior setup is as disorganised as ours currently is.
In regards to the Meath, they needed two lucky goals against us to get themselves on their way, the 11 points they scored came from 15 attempts we scored 0-12 for 27 attempts (yes 15 wides) Sligo were within seconds of defeating Cavan (a better side than Meath) IMO Sligo are more than capable of winning in Navan & win for them plus a defeat for us in Casement park will more or less confirm div 4 football for us next year.
Quote from: ross4life on March 12, 2013, 04:46:43 PM
Ah now rosfan you could have said 1999 where some wouldn't remember. I'm trying my best to forget 2009
I just typed in whatever figures my fingers were near at the time ;D
Our best hope is for Sligo to remain on the same points as us - at least if it comes to the head to head then we'll survive.
Fermanaghs injury list keeps growing . Donnelly seemingly broke leg last saturday night v monaghan . That added to Sherry (broken hand) Quigley (broken foot) will leave them stretched for the rest of the year.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 12, 2013, 02:05:54 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 12, 2013, 12:19:50 AM
unless you've got a manager capable of turning a winning mentality at underage into something useful at senior
We've been failing spectacularly at turning underage success into anything consistent at Senior level and it can't be all down to managers ( Mind you your favourite Des N. didn't help :-[)
We seem to be producing decent teams of useful underage players from our Development squad system but few if any seem to be able to do anything worthwhile at Senior.
So are we producing the wrong kind of player? Seems like it.
If we continue to plough along in the lower reaches of the NFL and do damn all at Championship level for a few more years all that underage success will be long forgotten.
Who can name the 4 Provincial minor and U 21 winners from 2009 for example without looking it up?
Monaghan Antrim Meath and Cavan to win at the weekend
It's about how you fund managers too. If they don't have good facilities and resources you're starting at the back of the pack every time.
We need a few decently bank-rolled gyms in the county (no need for huge building work, maybe even just choose a few suitable clubhouses to become regional centres in the county and look at what machines and building work their already existenting facilities need) to make the sort of training players need to do in the off-season easier and given how many members of the panel are in Dublin it's worth focussing on how we can streamline things for them too. I don't think we have a bad bunch of lads I terms of their dedication or passion for the county but until we get more ambitious on an operations level we'll probably continue to preform bellow what we could realistically achieve.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 12, 2013, 03:29:58 PM
Point I was making is that no matter how successful you might be at underage people generally only remember Senior success.
I recall 2009 too bloody well - Minor -we should have won by a cricket score in Salthill but were brutal in the replay
U21 the BIG comeback v Rhubarbs in Charlestown only to be held to a draw by conceding a last minute goal.
Yeah we certainly had all the luck at underage against you that year alright and I do take your point about underage success not being remembered unless there is some transfer to senior. I think Rosscommon will benefit from the solid underage structures in place now and what I have seen of Sligo at minor and U21 lately is much improved too and both counties should improve at senior in the next couple of years with the right management. The Rossies suffered from having to promote Fergal O' Donnell too soon and I think Sligo might have kept Walsh a year too long but barring disaster I think both teams will over the next decade be much more consistent albeit maybe suffering some setbacks like relegation in the short term.Tthis is going to happen when building a solid base because that doesn't happen overnight with the restricted numbers both counties have to deal with.
Just take Meath and Cavan for example, Meath have begun to turn it around at minor level with a few good teams over the last 5 or 6 years but are still nowhere at u21 and will struggle in the short to medium term at senior and Cavan on the back of consistent minor and U21 performances are only beginning to turn the corner this season so it's a long hard road but if Sligo and Rosscommon stay the course it could lead to a more sustained period at the business end of championship football ala the Rossies in the 70's and 80's rather than one off results like Meath in 2010 or Offaly and Cavan in 97 etc...
For us the maddening thing was that it looked to be coming together two years ago but after Fergie left it set the senior team back a bit. Fergie's back managing the minors now, though, and assembled the same management team he had in 2006 (including Ballagh's Mayo winning manager Mark O'Dowd) so he might get his shot at the U21s yet!
It can't be overstated that the loss of the Brigids players severely hamper preparations for the league each year and that any injuries you suffer when you're starting at that point just hurt you even more. Armagh know what it's like more than any county, I'd really wish the counties with recent experience of suffering from club-tied players because of an artificially elongated club championship would band together and improve the system for everyone by forcing change but then you'd wonder why the AI ever end up in March to begin with
Quote from: Syferus on March 13, 2013, 02:41:02 PM
it looked to be coming together two years ago but after Fergie left it set the senior team back a bit.
Fergie himself said he felt he had gone as far as he could with the lads in 2011.
The man Syf was praising to the Heavens last year ( Des N.) might have had something to do with "setting the senior team back a bit". ::)
Back about 4 years and an awful lot more than "a bit" it looks like.
Anyway to the future - 2 points badly needed in Casement but I can't see it happening unfortunately.
I fear we may have our smallest ever crowd at an away game due to the Brids in Croker the next day, the weekend that's in it, our poor form and also the distance, time and place.
The joys of Division 3 :-[ :-[
Quote from: Rossfan on March 14, 2013, 04:38:24 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 13, 2013, 02:41:02 PM
it looked to be coming together two years ago but after Fergie left it set the senior team back a bit.
Fergie himself said he felt he had gone as far as he could with the lads in 2011.
The man Syf was praising to the Heavens last year ( Des N.) might have had something to do with "setting the senior team back a bit". ::)
Back about 4 years and an awful lot more than "a bit" it looks like.
Anyway to the future - 2 points badly needed in Casement but I can't see it happening unfortunately.
I fear we may have our smallest ever crowd at an away game due to the Brids in Croker the next day, the weekend that's in it, our poor form and also the distance, time and place.
The joys of Division 3 :-[ :-[
Des will be looking like a genius in a few weeks if we're relegated to Division 4.
I think Fergie's always been too harsh on himself, he's almost too humble as a manager. He's a talented and likeable home-grown coach and if he had the time to continue in the senior job we would probably be in a better spot right now. Maybe not even in Division 2, but the stability he would have offered would certainly have helped last year. Glad he's back with the minors at least.
Monaghan (NFL V Wicklow) - Mark Keogh; Dessie Mone, Fintan Kelly, Kieran Duffy; Colin Walshe, Darren Hughes, Karl O'Connell; Owen Lennon, Dick Clerkin; Gavin Doogan, Kieran Hughes, Owen Duffy; Conor McManus, Paul Finlay, Christopher McGuinness.
Subs: Rory Beggan, Ronan McNally, Conor Galligan, Vincent Corey, Drew Wylie, Neil McAdam, Tommy Freeman, Dermot Malone, Stephen Gollogly, Stephen Smyth, Pádraig Donaghy.
decent starting 15 and good bench.
confident enough.
Is there any chance the GAA could put our game back to 7 like the rest... Flight got cancelled so now I have get taxi to Trabzon 3hrs then fly to Istanbul 2hrs then get taxi to other Istanbul airport then sleep on floor of airport for 5hrs then fly to London gat then get bus to heathrow 1.5hrs then get flight to dublin 1,5 hrs then dad picks me up and we drive to Navan....it's a bit mad...isn't it. I have about 20mins float time. should be fine. Be pretty annoying if Sligo put in poor display. :o
Best of Luck Sligonian.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 15, 2013, 07:25:08 PM
Is there any chance the GAA could put our game back to 7 like the rest... Flight got cancelled so now I have get taxi to Trabzon 3hrs then fly to Istanbul 2hrs then get taxi to other Istanbul airport then sleep on floor of airport for 5hrs then fly to London gat then get bus to heathrow 1.5hrs then get flight to dublin 1,5 hrs then dad picks me up and we drive to Navan....it's a bit mad...isn't it. I have about 20mins float time. should be fine. Be pretty annoying if Sligo put in poor display. :o
That's great dedication, hope your players aren't feeling the same!
Best of luck with making the game.
Please god we beat the Rossies
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 15, 2013, 07:25:08 PM
Is there any chance the GAA could put our game back to 7 like the rest... Flight got cancelled so now I have get taxi to Trabzon 3hrs then fly to Istanbul 2hrs then get taxi to other Istanbul airport then sleep on floor of airport for 5hrs then fly to London gat then get bus to heathrow 1.5hrs then get flight to dublin 1,5 hrs then dad picks me up and we drive to Navan....it's a bit mad...isn't it. I have about 20mins float time. should be fine. Be pretty annoying if Sligo put in poor display. :o
Best of luck lad.. I hope ye get the result in Navan and that Ryaniar don't feature in your elaborate return home.. ;-)
Quote from: Gold on March 15, 2013, 10:27:44 PM
Please god we beat the Rossies
Please God we beat you. Nevermind about Antrim, that's just a proxy to beat
you.
Imagine that horrid umbrella salesman, the remnant of last night's kebab still dripping off his discoloured tank top, his pot belly gyrating uncontrollably as he's laughing heartily while watching the 'Tans' be dejectedly carted off the field suffering the physical and mental effects of yet another capitulation at the hands of Connacht's guardians. We'll probably pull a few bus toilet levers on our way out for good measure.
Afterwards we're all going to have a late night meeting in Copper Face Jacks (we'd never be willing to stay in Antrim, of course) and talk until dawn about plotting to return the Andy Merigan Cup to the Republic for the first time since your fellow B Specials St. Gall's so unjustly removed it from the 'motherland'.
Proper b**tards, us.
::)
Hey Syfillis - that's some rant you`re having there. Full of shit if you ask me.
Trying to be smart with a post like that - I`d say that you can fcuk off to Copper Jacks or wherever you want after the game.
Where we come from we try to treat fellow Gaels with some respect but your post is distasteful to say the least. Probably best to delete it altogether and cite delusion or something - but don't mention either the B specials or the Tans whenever/if you walk through the gates of Casement Park tomorrow. Trust me on that. Proper Roscommon Gaels will be welcomed all day long - but you or your type wont ever be. That's the way is in these parts.
Quote from: bannside on March 16, 2013, 02:12:26 AM
Hey Syfillis - that's some rant you`re having there. Full of shit if you ask me.
Trying to be smart with a post like that - I`d say that you can fcuk off to Copper Jacks or wherever you want after the game.
Where we come from we try to treat fellow Gaels with some respect but your post is distasteful to say the least. Probably best to delete it altogether and cite delusion or something - but don't mention either the B specials or the Tans whenever/if you walk through the gates of Casement Park tomorrow. Trust me on that. Proper Roscommon Gaels will be welcomed all day long - but you or your type wont ever be. That's the way is in these parts.
You clearly don't know the background to Gold's comment, or the context or tone my comment is meant in.
Search for it in this thread if you want, but don't feign ignorance and continue to claim the high ground.
I go back seven or eight pages to see what you`re on about Syferus. Cant see anything from Gold or anyone that would entice you come out with any type of reference to either Tans or B Specials. Not doing yourself or Roscommon Gaels any favours at all coming out with this crap!
Quote from: bannside on March 16, 2013, 02:47:29 AM
I go back seven or eight pages to see what you`re on about Syferus. Cant see anything from Gold or anyone that would entice you come out with any type of reference to either Tans or B Specials. Not doing yourself or Roscommon Gaels any favours at all coming out with this crap!
For your perusal, sir: http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=22659.msg1196891#msg1196891
At least I was
mocking idiotic prejudices. I can't say the same for Gold.
Quote from: Syferus on March 16, 2013, 02:54:57 AM
At least I was mocking idiotic prejudices. I can't say the same for Gold.
Those
idiotic prejudices may not seem idiotic for someone who grew up on the Falls Road, say. It's all about perception.
Anyways, I'm sure there's other forums to discuss the perception of idiotic prejudices or not. Let's keep this one within scope.
This thread must be one of the argumentative threads ever. Its all these Monaghan and Meath feckers causing trouble as usual.
Quote from: Syferus on March 16, 2013, 01:32:08 AM
Quote from: Gold on March 15, 2013, 10:27:44 PM
Please god we beat the Rossies
Please God we beat you. Nevermind about Antrim, that's just a proxy to beat you.
Imagine that horrid umbrella salesman, the remnant of last night's kebab still dripping off his discoloured tank top, his pot belly gyrating uncontrollably as he's laughing heartily while watching the 'Tans' be dejectedly carted off the field suffering the physical and mental effects of yet another capitulation at the hands of Connacht's guardians. We'll probably pull a few bus toilet levers on our way out for good measure.
Afterwards we're all going to have a late night meeting in Copper Face Jacks (we'd never be willing to stay in Antrim, of course) and talk until dawn about plotting to return the Andy Merigan Cup to the Republic for the first time since your fellow B Specials St. Gall's so unjustly removed it from the 'motherland'.
Proper b**tards, us.
::)
Listen we don't all generalise. If so we would assume everyone in roscommon were a one man / boy drivel producing machine.
Looking forward to the game today. Two points required but won't be easy. Very important in promotion and relegation stakes.
Quote from: Itchy on March 16, 2013, 08:35:46 AM
This thread must be one of the argumentative threads ever. Its all these Monaghan and Meath feckers causing trouble as usual.
:)
Can't wait for this game now!! Things are escalating nicely!
Quote from: Gold on March 16, 2013, 10:34:46 AM
Things are escalating nicely!
Aye, heard it's lashing in Belfast.
A day for an umbrella at Casement.
7-1 to the Ros. Should be way more. Antrim worse than they were at the Hyde last year.
We lead by 6 It really should be 12 hopefully we can keep it going for 2nd half but you never know with us
8-1. 40 mins gone. C'mon, see this one out.
FT: Monaghan 5-13 v Wicklow 3-10
Keeps us top of the table.
FT: Roscommon 0-11 Antrim 1-6
As usual we made an easy game hard on ourselves but the win is great, it should go a long way to staving off relegation. Antrim in trouble with Meath and Monaghan left.
Poor 2nd half by us but we still won 1-6 0-11 antrim without a doubt the worst side we have played this year
Antrim absolutely woeful. More like a 12 point game than a 2 point one.
What is that guy compton like for roscommon? Gave mclean some roasting.
Roscommon i wouldn't say are brilliant however with a few to come back i would expect they'll give connacht a rattle.
Antrim going nowhere fast. I'd say we'll go down :-[
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 16, 2013, 04:56:24 PM
Antrim absolutely woeful. More like a 12 point game than a 2 point one.
What is that guy compton like for roscommon? Gave mclean some roasting.
Roscommon i wouldn't say are brilliant however with a few to come back i would expect they'll give connacht a rattle.
Compton, Smith and Conor Daly are all U21 players, we're working off an incredibly young panel right now. They'll be playing Leitrim in the first round of the U21 championship next Saturday so all three will be out for the Monaghan game. With injuries to four of last year's starters, the St. Brigids lads hopefully working off an almighty victory bender and the U21s out next week's selection will be very interesting.
Sligo 2-9 Meath 1-5 (HT)
Quote from: Syferus on March 16, 2013, 05:33:54 PM
Compton, Smith and Conor Daly are all U21 players, we're working off an incredibly young panel right now. They'll be playing Leitrim in the first round of the U21 championship next Saturday so all three will be out for the Monaghan game. With injuries to four of last year's starters, the St. Brigids lads hopefully working off an almighty victory bender and the U21s out next week's selection will be very interesting.
You're not expecting a return of the St Brigids' players before the game against Monaghan?
Quote from: Main Street on March 16, 2013, 06:00:47 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 16, 2013, 05:33:54 PM
Compton, Smith and Conor Daly are all U21 players, we're working off an incredibly young panel right now. They'll be playing Leitrim in the first round of the U21 championship next Saturday so all three will be out for the Monaghan game. With injuries to four of last year's starters, the St. Brigids lads hopefully working off an almighty victory bender and the U21s out next week's selection will be very interesting.
You're not expecting a return of the St Brigids' players before the game against Monaghan?
Mon are next week, would be rough to expect the Brigid's lads to play next week, win or lose tomorrow. If they want to themselves then great, but I wouldn't want to be pressuring them into it.
If needed we'll probably ask nicely and get the Kilbrides and Mango back for the Caaaaavan game.
I suppose, Mango goes where chu chu goes?
Quote from: Main Street on March 16, 2013, 06:16:36 PM
I suppose, Mango goes where chu chu goes?
He'll might be Mangold soon.
Well, Mansilver, but that doesn't sound as awesome.
Sligo 2-12 Meath 1-17 (FT)
How did Sligo manage to throw that away? They're in trouble now. Meath still in with a shout for promotion.
NIGHTMARE
Meath had a good second half, obviously they didn't like the look of Div 4.
So wins Fermanagh,Meath,Monaghan & ourselves the table as it stands
Monaghan 8
Fermanagh 7
Meath 6
Cavan 5
Roscommon 5
Antrim 4
Sligo 3
Wicklow 2
We're not out of it 8) yet after today's win against an awful Antrim team.
Awful bloody day up North plus a poor crowd with nearly half of them from Ros and a poor game between a bad team and an absolutely atrocious team.
We should have been out of sight at half time but of course we kept them in it with loads of silly wides and then went to sleep in the second half. Then when we looked to have it safe and sound we let them in for a late goal just to give all our nerves a bit of exercise.
Still it's two valuable points which is all you get whether you win by 1 or 21.
We still look like a crowd of lads who never played together before but sure as they say it's always good to have some improving to do in March ::)
By Jazes but we have some improving to do alright.
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 16, 2013, 06:33:30 PM
Sligo 2-12 Meath 1-17 (FT)
How did Sligo manage to throw that away? They're in trouble now. Meath still in with a shout for promotion.
Was at the game and was surprised by Sligo's performance in the first half. Meath it has to be said were very lacklustre during that time. 3 longstanding problem positions for Sligo seemed to have been sorted centre back, midfield and full forward. 2 things turned the game Brehony went off injured which left Sligo with only one player who could score (Marren) and Meath brought on a few of their more experienced players (G Reilly, Farrell, Sheridan and especially the midfielder they brought on Gillespie I think it was). Sligo were dreadful though in that second half Killcullen who had a great first half was bizarrely switched with Hughes - there is about 5 inches difference in height between them. As a result Meath lorded midfield in second half and swarmed forward from half back line.
We have no leaders on the pitch - they are all sitting at home in front of the fire either dropped from the panel or couldn't commit to November teaming and not asked back in. We have put ourselves in winning positions in most games Roscommon, Cavan, and Meath but collapse in the second half. No experience or impact from the subs, wing forwards can't defend, no. 5 must have scored 3 points.
Tactically Walsh hasn't a clue what he is doing. Its time he was shown the door and a replacement brought in who will return 4/5 of our more experienced players.
Atrocious play from our boys in the first half, defending in particular was dreadful. Great second half performance, obviously. I noted Bray, Lenihan, Gillespie, Gilsenan, Newman, K Reilly, and Dalton. Poor displays from Keoghan, Young, Harrington, Ward, Meade, and P Byrne. Didn't really notice the rest particularly. Wallace tried hard. We can improve a lot on how we're playing at the minute, there's much more in the tank. Feel for Sligo too as they bossed the game in the first half and an 8 point lead should be enough to see out any game. Outside chance of promotion still. Referee poor for both sides.
Quote from: ross4life on March 16, 2013, 08:43:53 PM
So wins Fermanagh,Meath,Monaghan & ourselves the table as it stands
Monaghan 8
Fermanagh 7
Meath 6
Cavan 5
Roscommon 5
Antrim 4
Sligo 3
Wicklow 2
Very topsy turvy League. Roscommon looked to be doomed, and now having a chance at promotion.
Very poor performance from Cavan against Fermanagh. Damian Reilly getting sent off after 7 minutes didn't help,
Fermanagh were the better side and deserved the win, they ended up with 12 players by the end though, with some very poor discipline at the end.
Canavan has done a good job with Fermanagh. A lot of people had writtem Fermanagh off before the start of the league, they now have a great chance of playing Division 2 next year.
Mark McKeever was a big loss for Cavan.
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 17, 2013, 12:43:28 AM
Quote from: ross4life on March 16, 2013, 08:43:53 PM
So wins Fermanagh,Meath,Monaghan & ourselves the table as it stands
Monaghan 8
Fermanagh 7
Meath 6
Cavan 5
Roscommon 5
Antrim 4
Sligo 3
Wicklow 2
Very topsy turvy League. Roscommon looked to be doomed, and now having a chance at promotion.
Very poor performance from Cavan against Fermanagh. Damian Reilly getting sent off after 7 minutes didn't help,
Fermanagh were the better side and deserved the win, they ended up with 12 players by the end though, with some very poor discipline at the end.
Canavan has done a good job with Fermanagh. A lot of people had writtem Fermanagh off before the start of the league, they now have a great chance of playing Division 2 next year.
Mark McKeever was a big loss for Cavan.
Div 3 has always been like that & as i said with the first post in this thread underdogs has habit of gaining promotion fair play to Fermanagh if they manage it. We haven't improve from last year looks like another mid table finish. The top two are scoring 17,16 points per match we are only managing 12pts until that stat improves we will remain in div 3 for a while yet.
Quote from: Mano on March 16, 2013, 09:18:32 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 16, 2013, 06:33:30 PM
Sligo 2-12 Meath 1-17 (FT)
How did Sligo manage to throw that away? They're in trouble now. Meath still in with a shout for promotion.
Was at the game and was surprised by Sligo's performance in the first half. Meath it has to be said were very lacklustre during that time. 3 longstanding problem positions for Sligo seemed to have been sorted centre back, midfield and full forward. 2 things turned the game Brehony went off injured which left Sligo with only one player who could score (Marren) and Meath brought on a few of their more experienced players (G Reilly, Farrell, Sheridan and especially the midfielder they brought on Gillespie I think it was). Sligo were dreadful though in that second half Killcullen who had a great first half was bizarrely switched with Hughes - there is about 5 inches difference in height between them. As a result Meath lorded midfield in second half and swarmed forward from half back line.
We have no leaders on the pitch - they are all sitting at home in front of the fire either dropped from the panel or couldn't commit to November teaming and not asked back in. We have put ourselves in winning positions in most games Roscommon, Cavan, and Meath but collapse in the second half. No experience or impact from the subs, wing forwards can't defend, no. 5 must have scored 3 points.
Tactically Walsh hasn't a clue what he is doing. Its time he was shown the door and a replacement brought in who will return 4/5 of our more experienced players.
Wasn't at it but listened on the radio. What I picked up from the first half were positives (and echo Mano's thoughts) - 1) McIntyre is now adapted to intercounty football and is becoming the centre back we all expected he would be; 2) Kilcullen has given us a midfielder with ball winning ability which we've lacked for ages; 3) Hughes at FF is giving us a decent big target so we can let in quick, long ball - not just precise passes to small lads. James Clarke threatened to become this player last season but for some reason he was not persisted with. The second half it seems may be the start of deja vu.
The second half followed an all too familiar pattern - a complete capitulation. Along with the glaringly obvious leadership issues Mano has highlighted I can't help but wonder if this mad 12 week intensive wheelie bin filling and dragging through sand dunes is having a negative effect on the players. Are they knackered? Who knows. anyway - its a really alarming trend. I agree about Walsh but sadly I know he won't be got rid of until after we're humiliated in the summer.
Some luxury for Meath to bring those guys off the bench. Despite their current level of play not being up to their high standards they are one county who you don't want to give the scent of blood to and we did it. The crowd and players responded and we paid for it.
We might just avoid relegation if we can beat Wicklow at home and Antrim lose their final two games.
Edit - also hope Sligonian made the game and await his version of events.
Quote from: Ard-Rí on March 16, 2013, 09:51:41 PM
Atrocious play from our boys in the first half, defending in particular was dreadful. Great second half performance, obviously. I noted Bray, Lenihan, Gillespie, Gilsenan, Newman, K Reilly, and Dalton. Poor displays from Keoghan, Young, Harrington, Ward, Meade, and P Byrne. Didn't really notice the rest particularly. Wallace tried hard. We can improve a lot on how we're playing at the minute, there's much more in the tank. Feel for Sligo too as they bossed the game in the first half and an 8 point lead should be enough to see out any game. Outside chance of promotion still. Referee poor for both sides.
Was at the game and would agree with that.
On the balance of it, there was as many negatives as positives.
Keoghan was awful. A shadow of the player that tormented Johnny Doyle and Kevin McMenamin last year.
Young and Larkin are out of their depth. No offence to anyone from Summerhill, I've seen them play a few times over the last 2 or 3 seasons and would always have agreed that both players were worth a go at county level. Sadly they're not first 15 material.
Dalton and Lenihan had bad first halfs but made up for it in the second. Lenihan fair play to him kicked 3 points but I worry about the defending part of his game.
Bigey came on and was only middling. He is not as keen to take on players and I wonder how much he enjoyed himself over the Christmas period. He has a lot of work to do to get back to his best.
On the plus side, Kevin Reilly led by example in the middle of the field.
Stephen Bray despite leaving his shooting boots at home showed good form. He caught a lot of ball and maybe on a better day could have ended up with more than 1-1. Hopefully his injury was not too serious.
Gillespie and Gilsenan came on - both were instrumental in the Meath revivial.
The man of the match for me though was Mickey Newman. It's good to have him in the side at last.
If Meath win their last 2 games, they'll go up. But we've so many problems that it's hard to expect anything beyond this league. They are too many players out of form and out of their depth.
Very disappointing result for Cavan last night. Although we did play poorly and again made way too many silly mistakes I think the sending off after 7 mins of Damien Reilly was too much for us to overcome. Now the ref was right beside it but I had a decent enough view myself and to me it looked like the Fermanagh player was rugby tackling Reilly and then took a swing with the boot at him as he (fermanagh player) lay on the ground. Reilly was stumbling and stood on his chest - whether that was intentional or not I couldnt say but in fairness the ref was right there. However the ref didnt apply the same strictness to Fermanagh, there was a viscous attempted right hook that didn't make contact, right in front of the ref, which was only a yellow card (I thought that was a straight red). A headbutt on Keating when he came on (again it may not have made contact) which resulted in only a yellow and when Fermanagh finally got their red it was too late. However Owens should get 6 months for what he did, pulling Ronan Flanagan to the ground and after the ref blew for a free he drew a full-force kick at Flanagan who lay on the ground - trampish act. Fermanaghs penalty was another huge turning point. Many in the crowd said that both Reilly and Ward caught the ball so it should have been thrown up but for me Reilly in the goal, caught and dropped the ball into Wards hands and then pulled at it which meant it was a penalty. Anyway, promotion is gone bar some miraculous results but we need a win to be sure to stay up.
Over the 70, the 15 men of Fermanagh deserved their win but I think with 15 on 15 we would have won.
That was a nasty act what Barry Owens did, a straight red card is usually 4 weeks. That deserves a lot longer.
Looking good for Monaghan. One more win and we're up, regardless of what happens in other games. We're in the lucky position of having played the other teams in the top end of the table - Fermanagh or Meath still have to drop points in their head to head. Would be great to get the points in Roscommon, but i've had that one marked up as a potential banana skin from the start. At this stage, i'd settle for a draw there.
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 17, 2013, 10:21:52 AM
Looking good for Monaghan. One more win and we're up, regardless of what happens in other games. We're in the lucky position of having played the other teams in the top end of the table - Fermanagh or Meath still have to drop points in their head to head. Would be great to get the points in Roscommon, but i've had that one marked up as a potential banana skin from the start. At this stage, i'd settle for a draw there.
Monaghan versus Ros - D3's least vitriolic tie?
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 17, 2013, 07:55:37 AM
Quote from: Mano on March 16, 2013, 09:18:32 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 16, 2013, 06:33:30 PM
Sligo 2-12 Meath 1-17 (FT)
How did Sligo manage to throw that away? They're in trouble now. Meath still in with a shout for promotion.
Was at the game and was surprised by Sligo's performance in the first half. Meath it has to be said were very lacklustre during that time. 3 longstanding problem positions for Sligo seemed to have been sorted centre back, midfield and full forward. 2 things turned the game Brehony went off injured which left Sligo with only one player who could score (Marren) and Meath brought on a few of their more experienced players (G Reilly, Farrell, Sheridan and especially the midfielder they brought on Gillespie I think it was). Sligo were dreadful though in that second half Killcullen who had a great first half was bizarrely switched with Hughes - there is about 5 inches difference in height between them. As a result Meath lorded midfield in second half and swarmed forward from half back line.
We have no leaders on the pitch - they are all sitting at home in front of the fire either dropped from the panel or couldn't commit to November teaming and not asked back in. We have put ourselves in winning positions in most games Roscommon, Cavan, and Meath but collapse in the second half. No experience or impact from the subs, wing forwards can't defend, no. 5 must have scored 3 points.
Tactically Walsh hasn't a clue what he is doing. Its time he was shown the door and a replacement brought in who will return 4/5 of our more experienced players.
Wasn't at it but listened on the radio. What I picked up from the first half were positives (and echo Mano's thoughts) - 1) McIntyre is now adapted to intercounty football and is becoming the centre back we all expected he would be; 2) Kilcullen has given us a midfielder with ball winning ability which we've lacked for ages; 3) Hughes at FF is giving us a decent big target so we can let in quick, long ball - not just precise passes to small lads. James Clarke threatened to become this player last season but for some reason he was not persisted with. The second half it seems may be the start of deja vu.
The second half followed an all too familiar pattern - a complete capitulation. Along with the glaringly obvious leadership issues Mano has highlighted I can't help but wonder if this mad 12 week intensive wheelie bin filling and dragging through sand dunes is having a negative effect on the players. Are they knackered? Who knows. anyway - its a really alarming trend. I agree about Walsh but sadly I know he won't be got rid of until after we're humiliated in the summer.
Some luxury for Meath to bring those guys off the bench. Despite their current level of play not being up to their high standards they are one county who you don't want to give the scent of blood to and we did it. The crowd and players responded and we paid for it.
We might just avoid relegation if we can beat Wicklow at home and Antrim lose their final two games.
Edit - also hope Sligonian made the game and await his version of events.
by some miracle I did just at throw in despite aer lingus being late, first of all you have to credit Meath fans, for div 3and the apparent state of Meath football there was great support for Meath, they even clapped them coming out after ht,the first half for Sligo was awesome stuff, 2-9 is some score, there were a number of reasons for this, Meath left there 2fb way to isolated, Sligo played in quick play and Hughes as said is a fantastic target man, kilcullen as said looked awesome, destroyed his opposite nr played some great ball into ff line. Egan and f Quinn were perfect at wing f, they won break after break, from kilcullen tap downs, the forwards worked hard without the ball, they key was moving the ball fast and getting it in quick to the front two. Our defence looked comfortable 1st half. Keelan Cawley was the pick of he bunch for me, he his far more attack minded and breaks gain line all the time, overlaps and supports like curran, curran is atrocious defensively, and Cawley whilst better it isn't strength either. Now to McIntyre, this was my first time seeing and whilst feel he is the answer to chb he stills has bit to go, he gave away daft ball and looks leggy at times. His near hand tackling and slowing momentum of opp players and his reading of the game is class, he never goes missing in vital spaces in front of fb line...some of scores in 1st half were outstanding but maths work rate was poor and also they gave us way too much space, we got easy scores, the 2turning pints for me was the clear penalty not given by the useless **** of a ref, when Francis Quinn was rugby tackled by the keeper, this would of given us 10pt pt lead, then Brehonys injury, for me Brehonys support play, running game from chef with Egan and Quinn either is the perfect balance for hf, they win break feed Brehony, he feeds the ff line, supports the front 2, when James Clarke came on, our management stupidly put him in with marten and Hughes, and then we started the stupid High ball shit, and it unsettled us, Clarke isn't the right replacement for Brehony IMO as they are so different. It upset our flow. It's not Clarkes fault at all, he worked hard and went out the middle for second h, and competed better than most.
So at ht, my dad said to several Meath fans this game is not over, you could see at end 1st h we could be in bother, of course we took ht team talk to 15, mins, one thing we are good at is talking. Meath were out I. 7mins, you'll have noticed I never mentioned Shane McManus, how this fella is starting is beyond me, he is painfully slow, in the second half Meath turned the game by isolating no5 on him and running at us, this meant they had overlaps everywhere. Poor hb line had no chance and when Cawley and curran are ran at there weak tacklers, McIntyre tried to plug the holes and several times slowed Meath momentum, but 5mins into 2nd h you could see we were in trouble. We slowed the supply Into marten and Hughes, the gap between our hf and ff line widened, and we totally lost our shape, our wing backs got sucked into the middle, Meath crowded it for kick outs and kilcullen got lost, Gilmartin was poor all game for me, every time Meath turn us over they looked like scoring, whereas we never looked dangerous,
We need a playmaker to replace Brehony, we can't start McManus wing forward, we can't allow wing backs to get sucked into the middles leaving our flanks wide open. Intruth Meath could of got 2/3goals second half, great saves from Greene but his kickouts are atrocious and put us under pressure, he a,so gave away scores with his panic after catching. Our tacking 2nd was lazy and diving in shite, is not giving 100%, stupid frees giving away, rather Han running with man, one arm tackling slowing momentum, McIntyre was best at this,
That's about it, we lost cause meath ran at us, we are asleep on the line, we got lazy and lost our shape, meaning we slowed the ball into marren.meath over crowded the middle which turned into a dogfight. We were a disgrace second half though and we are mentally weak, too many flops now. Maybe we are leggy due to overtraining. Cause these second h collapses are a disaster.
Also meant to say met mickey kerins walking out, he was on his own supporting his county, but it was such a sad sight, his head was hung down, nearly in tears and I just said hello and he mumbled disgrace to me. To see a legend of Sligo football so depressed and to think he went all the way from skreen to support his county on his own at his age says it all about the man. I doubt we'd see many of current crop doing that. Autocorrect on the iPad fck up my spelling above but you get the joist.
I wonder will Fermanagh bother to field a team next year if the new rules are voted in at congress.
Mixed bag yesterday really. From roughly the 5th to 60th minute we out scored them 24 7, but the other 15 minutes were concerning to watch. Between hitting the post 3 times and missing a gilt edged goal chance, Wicklow could have been leading at half time. Their flurry at the end didn't cover our defence in glory either and you couldn't argue with Beegan getting picked next time out. Despite our heavy scoring, conceding 3 10 against Wicklow isn't good enough.
Anyway the positives! Was delighted to see Paul tuck away his goal. Backs up his good performance last week and hopefully it's the start of a better patch for him. Connor was in full flight and both his finish off his left for his 2nd goal and some of his points were top drawer. Moving Colin to 5 and bringing on Drew tightened things up at the back but I still think Colin will be needed in the full back line later on in the year. With Doogan and Malone we have 2 good men for helping win breaks, an area that needs some sorting out!. Neil played well at midfield which we need, because we can't keep relying on the 2 lads each game. Good to see Vinny back playing too, he didn't head for the edge of either square so it'll be interesting to see where he will fit in!.
Sad to see tommy go off, suspected broken jaw with I hear and with Kieran going off too it could limit us with scorers next week.
Thanks Sligonian. You have added a good bit to my understanding of this latest collapse.
I am obviously biased but I think Keelan Cawley has been treated disgracefully by the management over the last 2 years. Fair play to him for sticking to it when inferior players were continually picked ahead of him. He's well worth his place in my view.
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 17, 2013, 12:12:37 PM
Thanks Sligonian. You have added a good bit to my understanding of this latest collapse.
I am obviously biased but I think Keelan Cawley has been treated disgracefully by the management over the last 2 years. Fair play to him for sticking to it when inferior players were continually picked ahead of him. He's well worth his place in my view.
I am obviously not biased so I agree. The main is his ability on the ball and ability to break the gain line, he adds so much to the attack where others sit on the fence and go lateral all the time. He isn't greatest defender though but neither are others IMO who were being picked as you say. The only reason he got in was injuries. The management are a farce though. I watched them closely and send u a pm on that. I seen something that says it all.
As bad a performance as ever witnessed by Antrim yesterday.
Div 4 is beckoning bar a miracle.
Dunno if i could be bothered talking about it.
Could maybe play McClean at 6 or even in middle as No 3 is not his best spot.
Need Niblock, Mick and Tomas McCann back asap.
Dawson was totally wrong to take McVeigh off before HT. McVeigh had ran into traffic and got turned over instead of lettin the ball in (there was no one showing and no one to hit it in to). Dawson immediately took him off. McVeigh had made a few mistakes but his midfield partner Doherty hadnt touched the ball yet. Dawson got frustrated and took off our best player this year--stupid.
Took us 26mins to score. Nothing up front, Murray and Pollock couldnt get out in front enough to get ball. Compare that to Compston who was out in front of MCClean all day, leading the line and causing havoc.
We were so bad that when we had the ball up front and kept recycle it as we couldnt get a shot off a player just threw his leg at it and kicked the ball wide just so they could get a kick-out and we could try again. We just gave up on attacks-weird.
We've had massive losses this year. But you cant blame boys for leaving the county when other boys were happy to train all year last year and other years then f off during championship to go on 1 week holidays. Stinking commitment by people who give no f**k about anything bar themselves
Disgraceful crowd too--Rossies had more than us and us at home. But sure Celtic were probably playin a bunch of fishermen or postmen.
Thomas McCann not fit to start but had him doing sprints on sideline (more than he'd do during a game) from 4 mins in. Then put him on before half time (why not start him ?) Dropped Tony Scullion who gives his all for the cause yet put him on during 1st half (why not start him?)
If we go down we'll never get out
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 17, 2013, 10:53:03 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 17, 2013, 07:55:37 AM
Quote from: Mano on March 16, 2013, 09:18:32 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 16, 2013, 06:33:30 PM
Sligo 2-12 Meath 1-17 (FT)
How did Sligo manage to throw that away? They're in trouble now. Meath still in with a shout for promotion.
Was at the game and was surprised by Sligo's performance in the first half. Meath it has to be said were very lacklustre during that time. 3 longstanding problem positions for Sligo seemed to have been sorted centre back, midfield and full forward. 2 things turned the game Brehony went off injured which left Sligo with only one player who could score (Marren) and Meath brought on a few of their more experienced players (G Reilly, Farrell, Sheridan and especially the midfielder they brought on Gillespie I think it was). Sligo were dreadful though in that second half Killcullen who had a great first half was bizarrely switched with Hughes - there is about 5 inches difference in height between them. As a result Meath lorded midfield in second half and swarmed forward from half back line.
We have no leaders on the pitch - they are all sitting at home in front of the fire either dropped from the panel or couldn't commit to November teaming and not asked back in. We have put ourselves in winning positions in most games Roscommon, Cavan, and Meath but collapse in the second half. No experience or impact from the subs, wing forwards can't defend, no. 5 must have scored 3 points.
Tactically Walsh hasn't a clue what he is doing. Its time he was shown the door and a replacement brought in who will return 4/5 of our more experienced players.
Wasn't at it but listened on the radio. What I picked up from the first half were positives (and echo Mano's thoughts) - 1) McIntyre is now adapted to intercounty football and is becoming the centre back we all expected he would be; 2) Kilcullen has given us a midfielder with ball winning ability which we've lacked for ages; 3) Hughes at FF is giving us a decent big target so we can let in quick, long ball - not just precise passes to small lads. James Clarke threatened to become this player last season but for some reason he was not persisted with. The second half it seems may be the start of deja vu.
The second half followed an all too familiar pattern - a complete capitulation. Along with the glaringly obvious leadership issues Mano has highlighted I can't help but wonder if this mad 12 week intensive wheelie bin filling and dragging through sand dunes is having a negative effect on the players. Are they knackered? Who knows. anyway - its a really alarming trend. I agree about Walsh but sadly I know he won't be got rid of until after we're humiliated in the summer.
Some luxury for Meath to bring those guys off the bench. Despite their current level of play not being up to their high standards they are one county who you don't want to give the scent of blood to and we did it. The crowd and players responded and we paid for it.
We might just avoid relegation if we can beat Wicklow at home and Antrim lose their final two games.
Edit - also hope Sligonian made the game and await his version of events.
by some miracle I did just at throw in despite aer lingus being late, first of all you have to credit Meath fans, for div 3and the apparent state of Meath football there was great support for Meath, they even clapped them coming out after ht,the first half for Sligo was awesome stuff, 2-9 is some score, there were a number of reasons for this, Meath left there 2fb way to isolated, Sligo played in quick play and Hughes as said is a fantastic target man, kilcullen as said looked awesome, destroyed his opposite nr played some great ball into ff line. Egan and f Quinn were perfect at wing f, they won break after break, from kilcullen tap downs, the forwards worked hard without the ball, they key was moving the ball fast and getting it in quick to the front two. Our defence looked comfortable 1st half. Keelan Cawley was the pick of he bunch for me, he his far more attack minded and breaks gain line all the time, overlaps and supports like curran, curran is atrocious defensively, and Cawley whilst better it isn't strength either. Now to McIntyre, this was my first time seeing and whilst feel he is the answer to chb he stills has bit to go, he gave away daft ball and looks leggy at times. His near hand tackling and slowing momentum of opp players and his reading of the game is class, he never goes missing in vital spaces in front of fb line...some of scores in 1st half were outstanding but maths work rate was poor and also they gave us way too much space, we got easy scores, the 2turning pints for me was the clear penalty not given by the useless **** of a ref, when Francis Quinn was rugby tackled by the keeper, this would of given us 10pt pt lead, then Brehonys injury, for me Brehonys support play, running game from chef with Egan and Quinn either is the perfect balance for hf, they win break feed Brehony, he feeds the ff line, supports the front 2, when James Clarke came on, our management stupidly put him in with marten and Hughes, and then we started the stupid High ball shit, and it unsettled us, Clarke isn't the right replacement for Brehony IMO as they are so different. It upset our flow. It's not Clarkes fault at all, he worked hard and went out the middle for second h, and competed better than most.
So at ht, my dad said to several Meath fans this game is not over, you could see at end 1st h we could be in bother, of course we took ht team talk to 15, mins, one thing we are good at is talking. Meath were out I. 7mins, you'll have noticed I never mentioned Shane McManus, how this fella is starting is beyond me, he is painfully slow, in the second half Meath turned the game by isolating no5 on him and running at us, this meant they had overlaps everywhere. Poor hb line had no chance and when Cawley and curran are ran at there weak tacklers, McIntyre tried to plug the holes and several times slowed Meath momentum, but 5mins into 2nd h you could see we were in trouble. We slowed the supply Into marten and Hughes, the gap between our hf and ff line widened, and we totally lost our shape, our wing backs got sucked into the middle, Meath crowded it for kick outs and kilcullen got lost, Gilmartin was poor all game for me, every time Meath turn us over they looked like scoring, whereas we never looked dangerous,
We need a playmaker to replace Brehony, we can't start McManus wing forward, we can't allow wing backs to get sucked into the middles leaving our flanks wide open. Intruth Meath could of got 2/3goals second half, great saves from Greene but his kickouts are atrocious and put us under pressure, he a,so gave away scores with his panic after catching. Our tacking 2nd was lazy and diving in shite, is not giving 100%, stupid frees giving away, rather Han running with man, one arm tackling slowing momentum, McIntyre was best at this,
That's about it, we lost cause meath ran at us, we are asleep on the line, we got lazy and lost our shape, meaning we slowed the ball into marren.meath over crowded the middle which turned into a dogfight. We were a disgrace second half though and we are mentally weak, too many flops now. Maybe we are leggy due to overtraining. Cause these second h collapses are a disaster.
Also meant to say met mickey kerins walking out, he was on his own supporting his county, but it was such a sad sight, his head was hung down, nearly in tears and I just said hello and he mumbled disgrace to me. To see a legend of Sligo football so depressed and to think he went all the way from skreen to support his county on his own at his age says it all about the man. I doubt we'd see many of current crop doing that. Autocorrect on the iPad fck up my spelling above but you get the joist.
Just to clarify a few things. The incident with Francis Quinn was definitely not a penalty. Quinn was indecisive and should have passed to Marren inside but tried to round keeper and soloed right into keepers block. I was watching from terrace opposite stand so had a good view.
Mickey Kearns was in front of me with his brother and son but fair play to him for travelling. Didn't see many other former players there.
Agree about Cawley. Had a great debut season and should have seen more game time since. Played well yesterday, brave and tenacious. McIntyre is developing well at county level, scored 2 massive points yesterday
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Sligo 2-12 Meath 1-17 (FT)
How did Sligo manage to throw that away? They're in trouble now. Meath still in with a shout for promotion.
Was at the game and was surprised by Sligo's performance in the first half. Meath it has to be said were very lacklustre during that time. 3 longstanding problem positions for Sligo seemed to have been sorted centre back, midfield and full forward. 2 things turned the game Brehony went off injured which left Sligo with only one player who could score (Marren) and Meath brought on a few of their more experienced players (G Reilly, Farrell, Sheridan and especially the midfielder they brought on Gillespie I think it was). Sligo were dreadful though in that second half Killcullen who had a great first half was bizarrely switched with Hughes - there is about 5 inches difference in height between them. As a result Meath lorded midfield in second half and swarmed forward from half back line.
We have no leaders on the pitch - they are all sitting at home in front of the fire either dropped from the panel or couldn't commit to November teaming and not asked back in. We have put ourselves in winning positions in most games Roscommon, Cavan, and Meath but collapse in the second half. No experience or impact from the subs, wing forwards can't defend, no. 5 must have scored 3 points.
Tactically Walsh hasn't a clue what he is doing. Its time he was shown the door and a replacement brought in who will return 4/5 of our more experienced players.
Wasn't at it but listened on the radio. What I picked up from the first half were positives (and echo Mano's thoughts) - 1) McIntyre is now adapted to intercounty football and is becoming the centre back we all expected he would be; 2) Kilcullen has given us a midfielder with ball winning ability which we've lacked for ages; 3) Hughes at FF is giving us a decent big target so we can let in quick, long ball - not just precise passes to small lads. James Clarke threatened to become this player last season but for some reason he was not persisted with. The second half it seems may be the start of deja vu.
The second half followed an all too familiar pattern - a complete capitulation. Along with the glaringly obvious leadership issues Mano has highlighted I can't help but wonder if this mad 12 week intensive wheelie bin filling and dragging through sand dunes is having a negative effect on the players. Are they knackered? Who knows. anyway - its a really alarming trend. I agree about Walsh but sadly I know he won't be got rid of until after we're humiliated in the summer.
Some luxury for Meath to bring those guys off the bench. Despite their current level of play not being up to their high standards they are one county who you don't want to give the scent of blood to and we did it. The crowd and players responded and we paid for it.
We might just avoid relegation if we can beat Wicklow at home and Antrim lose their final two games.
Edit - also hope Sligonian made the game and await his version of events.
by some miracle I did just at throw in despite aer lingus being late, first of all you have to credit Meath fans, for div 3and the apparent state of Meath football there was great support for Meath, they even clapped them coming out after ht,the first half for Sligo was awesome stuff, 2-9 is some score, there were a number of reasons for this, Meath left there 2fb way to isolated, Sligo played in quick play and Hughes as said is a fantastic target man, kilcullen as said looked awesome, destroyed his opposite nr played some great ball into ff line. Egan and f Quinn were perfect at wing f, they won break after break, from kilcullen tap downs, the forwards worked hard without the ball, they key was moving the ball fast and getting it in quick to the front two. Our defence looked comfortable 1st half. Keelan Cawley was the pick of he bunch for me, he his far more attack minded and breaks gain line all the time, overlaps and supports like curran, curran is atrocious defensively, and Cawley whilst better it isn't strength either. Now to McIntyre, this was my first time seeing and whilst feel he is the answer to chb he stills has bit to go, he gave away daft ball and looks leggy at times. His near hand tackling and slowing momentum of opp players and his reading of the game is class, he never goes missing in vital spaces in front of fb line...some of scores in 1st half were outstanding but maths work rate was poor and also they gave us way too much space, we got easy scores, the 2turning pints for me was the clear penalty not given by the useless **** of a ref, when Francis Quinn was rugby tackled by the keeper, this would of given us 10pt pt lead, then Brehonys injury, for me Brehonys support play, running game from chef with Egan and Quinn either is the perfect balance for hf, they win break feed Brehony, he feeds the ff line, supports the front 2, when James Clarke came on, our management stupidly put him in with marten and Hughes, and then we started the stupid High ball shit, and it unsettled us, Clarke isn't the right replacement for Brehony IMO as they are so different. It upset our flow. It's not Clarkes fault at all, he worked hard and went out the middle for second h, and competed better than most.
So at ht, my dad said to several Meath fans this game is not over, you could see at end 1st h we could be in bother, of course we took ht team talk to 15, mins, one thing we are good at is talking. Meath were out I. 7mins, you'll have noticed I never mentioned Shane McManus, how this fella is starting is beyond me, he is painfully slow, in the second half Meath turned the game by isolating no5 on him and running at us, this meant they had overlaps everywhere. Poor hb line had no chance and when Cawley and curran are ran at there weak tacklers, McIntyre tried to plug the holes and several times slowed Meath momentum, but 5mins into 2nd h you could see we were in trouble. We slowed the supply Into marten and Hughes, the gap between our hf and ff line widened, and we totally lost our shape, our wing backs got sucked into the middle, Meath crowded it for kick outs and kilcullen got lost, Gilmartin was poor all game for me, every time Meath turn us over they looked like scoring, whereas we never looked dangerous,
We need a playmaker to replace Brehony, we can't start McManus wing forward, we can't allow wing backs to get sucked into the middles leaving our flanks wide open. Intruth Meath could of got 2/3goals second half, great saves from Greene but his kickouts are atrocious and put us under pressure, he a,so gave away scores with his panic after catching. Our tacking 2nd was lazy and diving in shite, is not giving 100%, stupid frees giving away, rather Han running with man, one arm tackling slowing momentum, McIntyre was best at this,
That's about it, we lost cause meath ran at us, we are asleep on the line, we got lazy and lost our shape, meaning we slowed the ball into marren.meath over crowded the middle which turned into a dogfight. We were a disgrace second half though and we are mentally weak, too many flops now. Maybe we are leggy due to overtraining. Cause these second h collapses are a disaster.
Also meant to say met mickey kerins walking out, he was on his own supporting his county, but it was such a sad sight, his head was hung down, nearly in tears and I just said hello and he mumbled disgrace to me. To see a legend of Sligo football so depressed and to think he went all the way from skreen to support his county on his own at his age says it all about the man. I doubt we'd see many of current crop doing that. Autocorrect on the iPad fck up my spelling above but you get the joist.
Just to clarify a few things. The incident with Francis Quinn was definitely not a penalty. Quinn was indecisive and should have passed to Marren inside but tried to round keeper and soloed right into keepers block. I was watching from terrace opposite stand so had a good view.
Mickey Kearns was in front of me with his brother and son but fair play to him for travelling. Didn't see many other former players there.
Agree about Cawley. Had a great debut season and should have seen more game time since. Played well yesterday, brave and tenacious. McIntyre is developing well at county level, scored 2 massive points yesterday
for the first half I was on the 20yard line to the right of the stand had a great view of the Quinn peno, as he rounded the keeper he clearly rugby tackled as far as I am concerned. Whilst he should of passed he had full control of ball and keeper clearly took him down. I don't think u could of seen it as you were the opposite side that he sidestepped keeper.
I assumed mickey was on his own as he was alone on the way out.
Mcintyres point 2half was inspiring tbh and should of lifted the team. Caught the kickouts ran through direct and straight over from 35 yds.
For second half I moved just right of the Sligo dugout to left of the stand.
Quote from: Gold on March 17, 2013, 02:04:13 PM
Disgraceful crowd too--Rossies had more than us and us at home.
Good turn out by our folk i have to say.
Most of the Antrimites seemed to be there for the kids at half time as the ones around me were texting/phoning etc throughout the game.
The only ones interested in the game were a clutch of oul bucks wearing caps.
Good win for the Rossies on Sat. They'll be well up for the contest against the Farney in the Hyde next Sunday. It's still hard to know with our boys, I haven't seen them play a consistent 70mins of football in a long time..
We've the first round of U21s on Wednesday evening against Cavan, which could make players available for the weekend if needed. What's the story with RN, when's your first game?
We need one more win to secure promotion but I wouldn't be holding out for it in this one I have to say... We may be without both Tommy Freeman and Kieran Hughes which will leave us limited up front.
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Quote from: Gold on March 17, 2013, 02:04:13 PM
Disgraceful crowd too--Rossies had more than us and us at home.
Good turn out by our folk i have to say.
Most of the Antrimites seemed to be there for the kids at half time as the ones around me were texting/phoning etc throughout the game.
The only ones interested in the game were a clutch of oul bucks wearing caps.
Antrim are up there with Derry for worst support.
Hard to see us being big upped too much, unless we get half the Brigids team on board injuries and U21 absences should hamstring us.
Would be lovely to win another at home and keep an outside shot at promotion alve, though.
Quote from: Syferus on March 18, 2013, 01:04:03 PM
Hard to see us being big upped too much, unless we get half the Brigids team on board injuries and U21 absences should hamstring us.
Would be lovely to win another at home and keep an outside shot at promotion alve, though.
When's your U21s playing, tonight or at the weekend?
4:30 PM Sat
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on March 18, 2013, 12:43:27 PM
Good win for the Rossies on Sat. They'll be well up for the contest against the Farney in the Hyde next Sunday. It's still hard to know with our boys, I haven't seen them play a consistent 70mins of football in a long time..
We've the first round of U21s on Wednesday evening against Cavan, which could make players available for the weekend if needed. What's the story with RN, when's your first game?
We need one more win to secure promotion but I wouldn't be holding out for it in this one I have to say... We may be without both Tommy Freeman and Kieran Hughes which will leave us limited up front.
I was wondering where the nickname Farney came from
http://www.irishidentity.com/extras/island/stories/farney.htm
Quote from: Syferus on March 18, 2013, 01:04:03 PM
Hard to see us being big upped too much, unless we get half the Brigids team on board injuries and U21 absences should hamstring us.
Would be lovely to win another at home and keep an outside shot at promotion alve, though.
Ye should stick Cake in at full forward for the rest of the league.
A bit of x factor.
Yet another frustrating injury for Tommy Freeman, he fractured his jawbone against Wicklow and will be out for 6-8 weeks.
Hopefully he will be back fit before we are out, grazing for the summer.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2013/0319/377313-freeman-injury-setback-for-monaghan/ (http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2013/0319/377313-freeman-injury-setback-for-monaghan/)
Ros v Monaghan - Ros
Wicklow v Cavan - Cavan
Fermanagh v Sligo - Sligo
Antrim v Meath - Antrim
Well that's what I'm hoping for to blow the thing wide open. Stranger things have happened.
Monaghan, Cavan, Fermanagh and Meath for me. Hopefully we can put a bit of a run together and set up a showdown with na Fir Manach.
For us it feels like a real question of how much we want to be deep in the promotion race going into the last week.
Wins for Sligo and Antrim help us do that but if they win and we lose it drags us back into relegation trouble. Likewise Sligo losing likely confirms D3 football for next year even if Monaghan and Cavan hockey us. Wicklow can start booking weekends in Carrick unless they do something very different to what they have so far.
Anyone know for sure the throw in time for roscommon v monaghan. 3.30pm on monaghan website and aertel and 2.30pm in the northern standard.
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Anyone know for sure the throw in time for roscommon v monaghan. 3.30pm on monaghan website and aertel and 2.30pm in the northern standard.
3:30pm, it was moved back to accommodate a rally (not one of those political yokes, the kind with cars).
Hear the Antrim Arrows v Meath Markers match has little chance of going ahead as Casement Darts Arena is currently white with little chance of respite.
Meath are coming up on the inside. 6 points isn't too far off the target now they have a bit of mojo going.
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Hear the Antrim Arrows v Meath Markers match has little chance of going ahead as Casement Darts Arena is currently white with little chance of respite.
Signs of denial there drici..
I reckon Antrim have to hit 3 triple 20's with 2 shots left.
Meath lads too soft is what I heard.
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Quote from: drici on March 22, 2013, 09:55:23 AM
Hear the Antrim Arrows v Meath Markers match has little chance of going ahead as Casement Darts Arena is currently white with little chance of respite.
Signs of denial there drici..
I don't know what this means.
The coded description of the fixture led me to think drici was in denial.
Another second half collapse by us
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 24, 2013, 03:16:38 PM
Another second half collapse by us
Do ye have a fitness problem, thats a ridiculous collapse again!
As expected no st brigids players & a load of players out injured. I have seen us select stronger sides for the FBD 0-12 to 0-14 will prob be enough for monaghan to win this game. Two brigids defenders on the bench hmm..
Monaghan brutal with the wind, as bad as Wicklow to be honest. If we have guile the gale can give us a chance in the second half.
HT We are down 5-2 woeful stuff! i don't know whats worse the match or the weather?
Come on ros. Make last fixture interesting!
Ros win 8 to 7. Interesting!
This division is all over the shop.
Up the f**king Ros! True grit by the lads today. Finn is some rare beast.
Great fighting display by us in the last 10mins won the game & great winning score.
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Ros win 8 to 7. Interesting!
How so?
It gives Cavan a chance of promotion in the final game against Ros, depending on other results..
Yes Rodney. Unfortunately we are dependent on antrim to do something in clones but you never know and also fermanagh to not lose to meath. Our advantage is if we finish level with Monaghan or meath we will be above them as it is head to head that count. Both ros and Cavan are in the hunt still!
Division 1
Pos. Team P W D L F A Pts.
1 Dublin 6 5 0 1 8-92 4-63 10
2 Tyrone 6 5 0 1 4-75 3-69 10
3 Kildare 6 4 0 2 9-60 5-80 8
4 Cork 6 3 0 3 6-63 4-74 6
5 Mayo 6 2 0 4 2-74 5-65 4
6 Donegal 6 2 0 4 2-68 4-59 4
7 Kerry 6 2 0 4 1-49 5-58 4
8 Down 6 1 0 5 3-59 5-72 2
Division 2
Pos. Team P W D L F A Pts.
1 Westmeath 6 5 1 0 8-71 4-70 11
2 Derry 6 4 1 1 3-95 4-69 9
3 Laois 6 3 1 2 5-80 5-66 7
4 Galway 6 3 1 2 5-76 5-75 7
5 Wexford 6 2 1 3 7-66 11-73 5
6 Louth 6 2 1 3 8-73 6-81 5
7 Armagh 6 1 2 3 8-68 6-82 4
8 Longford 6 0 0 6 7-44 10-57 0
Division 3
Pos. Team P W D L F A Pts.
1 Fermanagh 6 4 1 1 5-79 5-57 9
2 Monaghan 5 4 0 1 7-62 6-42 8
3 Cavan 6 3 1 2 5-70 5-57 7
4 Meath 5 3 0 2 6-53 3-65 6
5 Roscommon 5 2 1 2 3-53 7-47 5
6 Antrim 5 1 2 2 5-52 6-51 4
7 Sligo 6 1 1 4 6-57 4-80 3
8 Wicklow 6 0 2 4 6-55 7-82 2
Division 4
Pos. Team P W D L F A Pts.
1 Limerick 7 5 0 2 1-73 4-70 10
2 Tipperary 6 4 0 2 5-80 4-63 8
3 Offaly 6 4 0 2 8-61 3-60 8
4 Clare 5 3 0 2 2-60 6-44 6
5 Leitrim 5 2 0 3 6-55 4-53 4
6 Carlow 6 2 0 4 2-68 5-74 4
7 Waterford 6 2 0 4 8-51 5-71 4
8 London 5 1 0 4 4-44 5-57 2
It's very unlikely that we'll go up at this stage, we really would need a massive slice of luck but it's still fantastic to be going into the final game at home looking for a result to send us up as opposed to keep us up. Dug out the result in Aughrim today by all accounts, fair play to them.
Quote from: Itchy on March 24, 2013, 05:50:26 PM
Yes Rodney. Unfortunately we are dependent on antrim to do something in clones but you never know and also fermanagh to not lose to meath. Our advantage is if we finish level with Monaghan or meath we will be above them as it is head to head that count. Both ros and Cavan are in the hunt still!
Antrim can do whatever they want in Clones, but if they don't do it in Inniskeen, it'll make no difference.
And if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan
all end up with 8 points, Monaghan are likely to go up on scoring difference.
Fermanagh and Monaghan will go up.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGI3SNuCcAE3EGO.jpg:large)
Fermanagh deserve to go up & they have been the best side we faced but Meath could still sneak in if they win their remaining games. Monaghan didn't look like D2 team today though conditions was difficult for both sides and if they ditch the defensive football they produced today they should beat Antrim by a bit to spare.
We are 1 point short of last years total i suppose we have done alright without so many players. We don't seem to getting any luck with injuries Compton last night & Oates today.
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Quote from: Itchy on March 24, 2013, 05:50:26 PM
Yes Rodney. Unfortunately we are dependent on antrim to do something in clones but you never know and also fermanagh to not lose to meath. Our advantage is if we finish level with Monaghan or meath we will be above them as it is head to head that count. Both ros and Cavan are in the hunt still!
Antrim can do whatever they want in Clones, but if they don't do it in Inniskeen, it'll make no difference.
And if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan all end up with 8 points, Monaghan are likely to go up on scoring difference.
Ah Maguire, missed you over on the U21 thread the last few days. :-*
Monaghan should go up alright but stranger things have happened. If Antrim are desperate for points in that game they might just put it up to Monaghan. Anyway, Cavan have vastly improved on last year and with some very decent U21 players to come back in for the championship I think we have a great shot at turning over Armagh in Ulster.
Another poor away day for monaghan. It was bitter in the hyde and the football on display didn't warm the spectators at all. A very poor match. Lots of pullin and dragging, bad wides and poor play. That said monaghan didn't score enough in the first half and let ros in to fire over a few super long rangers towards the end. All down to sunday week now against antrim. A display like today won't do
Quote from: tommysmith on March 24, 2013, 07:02:55 PM
Fermanagh and Monaghan will go up.
Wouldn't be so sure, if Meath get a win in the reshecduled game in Belfast , they have Fermanagh at home in Navan in the final round. I think they would have too much for Fermanagh at home, providing they are still in the promotion race.
I wouldn't begrudge the Rossies some division 3 security and a promotion lifeline, no matter how tenuous.
I just hope they didn't resort to using those dastardly cynical Mayolike tactics after they hit the winning point ;D
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Quote from: Itchy on March 24, 2013, 05:50:26 PM
Yes Rodney. Unfortunately we are dependent on antrim to do something in clones but you never know and also fermanagh to not lose to meath. Our advantage is if we finish level with Monaghan or meath we will be above them as it is head to head that count. Both ros and Cavan are in the hunt still!
Antrim can do whatever they want in Clones, but if they don't do it in Inniskeen, it'll make no difference.
And if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan all end up with 8 points, Monaghan are likely to go up on scoring difference.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but would Cavan not go up if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan end up on the same points due to the fact that Cavan beat both Meath and Monaghan. I don't think that points difference comes into it in that instance.
Quote from: timmyot501 on March 24, 2013, 09:08:33 PM
Another poor away day for monaghan. It was bitter in the hyde and the football on display didn't warm the spectators at all. A very poor match. Lots of pullin and dragging, bad wides and poor play. That said monaghan didn't score enough in the first half and let ros in to fire over a few super long rangers towards the end. All down to sunday week now against antrim. A display like today won't do
I was surprised Mon didn't use the gale force wind to take shots from distance or dropping the ball down into the box more in the first half. That said, the few times they did they were cleaned out by their markers.
I have to assume there's more to Mon than the showed but we'd be salivating at what our first team could do against that sort of static short hand passing game, and we know how to go lateral and backwards as good as anyone.
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Quote from: Itchy on March 24, 2013, 05:50:26 PM
Yes Rodney. Unfortunately we are dependent on antrim to do something in clones but you never know and also fermanagh to not lose to meath. Our advantage is if we finish level with Monaghan or meath we will be above them as it is head to head that count. Both ros and Cavan are in the hunt still!
Antrim can do whatever they want in Clones, but if they don't do it in Inniskeen, it'll make no difference.
And if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan all end up with 8 points, Monaghan are likely to go up on scoring difference.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but would Cavan not go up if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan end up on the same points due to the fact that Cavan beat both Meath and Monaghan. I don't think that points difference comes into it in that instance.
I think head to head is only used when two teams are level. If its three teams then score difference is used.
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Quote from: Itchy on March 24, 2013, 05:50:26 PM
Yes Rodney. Unfortunately we are dependent on antrim to do something in clones but you never know and also fermanagh to not lose to meath. Our advantage is if we finish level with Monaghan or meath we will be above them as it is head to head that count. Both ros and Cavan are in the hunt still!
Antrim can do whatever they want in Clones, but if they don't do it in Inniskeen, it'll make no difference.
And if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan all end up with 8 points, Monaghan are likely to go up on scoring difference.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but would Cavan not go up if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan end up on the same points due to the fact that Cavan beat both Meath and Monaghan. I don't think that points difference comes into it in that instance.
I think head to head is only used when two teams are level. If its three teams then score difference is used.
Correct.
Quote from: CC1 on March 24, 2013, 09:31:02 PM
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Quote from: Itchy on March 24, 2013, 05:50:26 PM
Yes Rodney. Unfortunately we are dependent on antrim to do something in clones but you never know and also fermanagh to not lose to meath. Our advantage is if we finish level with Monaghan or meath we will be above them as it is head to head that count. Both ros and Cavan are in the hunt still!
Antrim can do whatever they want in Clones, but if they don't do it in Inniskeen, it'll make no difference.
And if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan all end up with 8 points, Monaghan are likely to go up on scoring difference.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but would Cavan not go up if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan end up on the same points due to the fact that Cavan beat both Meath and Monaghan. I don't think that points difference comes into it in that instance.
You're wrong.
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 24, 2013, 10:11:46 PM
Quote from: CC1 on March 24, 2013, 09:31:02 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 24, 2013, 06:56:30 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 24, 2013, 05:50:26 PM
Yes Rodney. Unfortunately we are dependent on antrim to do something in clones but you never know and also fermanagh to not lose to meath. Our advantage is if we finish level with Monaghan or meath we will be above them as it is head to head that count. Both ros and Cavan are in the hunt still!
Antrim can do whatever they want in Clones, but if they don't do it in Inniskeen, it'll make no difference.
And if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan all end up with 8 points, Monaghan are likely to go up on scoring difference.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but would Cavan not go up if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan end up on the same points due to the fact that Cavan beat both Meath and Monaghan. I don't think that points difference comes into it in that instance.
You're wrong.
You didn't correct me dipshit. ::)
Quote from: theticklemister on March 24, 2013, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 24, 2013, 09:34:12 PM
Quote from: CC1 on March 24, 2013, 09:31:02 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 24, 2013, 06:56:30 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 24, 2013, 05:50:26 PM
Yes Rodney. Unfortunately we are dependent on antrim to do something in clones but you never know and also fermanagh to not lose to meath. Our advantage is if we finish level with Monaghan or meath we will be above them as it is head to head that count. Both ros and Cavan are in the hunt still!
Antrim can do whatever they want in Clones, but if they don't do it in Inniskeen, it'll make no difference.
And if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan all end up with 8 points, Monaghan are likely to go up on scoring difference.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but would Cavan not go up if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan end up on the same points due to the fact that Cavan beat both Meath and Monaghan. I don't think that points difference comes into it in that instance.
I think head to head is only used when two teams are level. If its three teams then score difference is used.
Correct.
yeah,think it happened to wexford a few years ago.3 teams level on points,wexford had beaten the other two but it was settled on scoring diff.
Who has to lose and by how much for us to go up?
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Quote from: Maguire01 on March 24, 2013, 06:56:30 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 24, 2013, 05:50:26 PM
Yes Rodney. Unfortunately we are dependent on antrim to do something in clones but you never know and also fermanagh to not lose to meath. Our advantage is if we finish level with Monaghan or meath we will be above them as it is head to head that count. Both ros and Cavan are in the hunt still!
Antrim can do whatever they want in Clones, but if they don't do it in Inniskeen, it'll make no difference.
And if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan all end up with 8 points, Monaghan are likely to go up on scoring difference.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but would Cavan not go up if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan end up on the same points due to the fact that Cavan beat both Meath and Monaghan. I don't think that points difference comes into it in that instance.
I think head to head is only used when two teams are level. If its three teams then score difference is used.
Thanks for clearing that up, was unaware of that.
http://www.shannonside.ie/sport/roscommon-defeat-monaghan/ (http://www.shannonside.ie/sport/roscommon-defeat-monaghan/)
Losing managers fall on the crutch of 'poor refereeing' far too often. They're too afraid to accept blame themselves. The reason Monaghan had so many fouls was because almost all they did, even in the first half, was hand pass the ball to a level that'd embarrass even us. More moving parts means more chances for some lad to frig the attack. Don't act surprised you over-carried it countless times, but it is telling you had something as obtuse as how many fouls each side had at half-time on hand to reel off in the post-match interview
Given how regularly keepers try to act the maggot when their team have a slender lead late on in games the referee was hardly terrible in forcing the game to continue. He's damned if he doesn't and damned if he does in that situation. The reporter just aided and abetted his version of events in that interview, absolutely 'chum' journalism at its very worst.
You weren't good enough on the day and you certainly didn't deserve to win, Malachy. Your boys didn't 'put in a great shift'. There's nothing more to it.
Plenty of managers indulge in these back-tracking excuses post-match but it's getting past a joke in this sport now.
I agree wit a lot of that last post but that goalkeeper incident was a disgrace on the refs behalf. No he did not lose monaghan the game today. Yes monaghan did foul a lot and often unnecessarily. But how could he be sure the keeper was not injured?? What gives him the right to call that?? Stop his watch. Add the time on at the end. At least go in and check on the keeper first. Players DO still get injured now and then.
Quote from: timmyot501 on March 25, 2013, 01:18:24 AM
I agree wit a lot of that last post but that goalkeeper incident was a disgrace on the refs behalf. No he did not lose monaghan the game today. Yes monaghan did foul a lot and often unnecessarily. But how could he be sure the keeper was not injured?? What gives him the right to call that?? Stop his watch. Add the time on at the end. At least go in and check on the keeper first. Players DO still get injured now and then.
I'd certainly not defend the action but I'd be careful not to label it too harshly either. There's nothing different in that situation in principle and when a referee motions a lad to get up after he took a tackle. He could have broken his ankle on the fall for all the ref knows. Goalkeepers' reputations in these situations are so blackened almost everyone instantly assumes they're just trying to pull a fast one if the go down in a heap and their team is ahead.
I think the visual clock that the referee can stop will help solve a lot of these situations because whether a player has broke his collar-bone or fell over because he felt a gust of wind on his back the ref can stop the clock and prevent much of the time-wastage.
Quote from: Jinxy on March 24, 2013, 11:52:21 PM
Who has to lose and by how much for us to go up?
Our fate would appear to be in our hands alone.
Managers like mor never take responsibility for their team losing and look for other ways of taking away from their own tactics,changes or selections . His after match comments on games could be recorded and used time and time again to save people time asking him ::)
God this Monaghan team is frustrating.
When we're good we can actually produce some decent stuff. But when we're bad there are few worse.
Yesterday was the latter. So many things were wrong.
We didn't use the wind at all correctly in the first half. There was far far too much lateral hand passing and then too often just a hopeful punt into the square. No intelligence to our forward play at all. At one stage in the first half we did not have a single player inside Roscommon's 45, and this was WITH the wind. Or else we were seeing pot shots from way out the field from players like Kieran Duffy or Gavin Doogan, hardly renowned scorers. Then McManus missed a sitter of a free from in front of the goals about 25m out. Incredible stuff.
Our "tackling" was abysmal. I expected a foul every time we went in for a tackle and I was right most of the time. Do they practice tackling at all with all the lazy, stupid pulling and dragging going on? Again, we'd often be doing ok keeping Roscommon out and forcing them to go sideways and then someone would do something stupid in a tackle and undo all the good work.
Regarding the goalkeeper injury incident, I must confess that I thought he was playacting too. Last Wednesday in the U21 game against Cavan he did the same thing. He lay down for a bit after Cavan got a point but was then fit to continue. Now maybe I'm doing him a disservice; maybe he did have a problem in that game against Cavan as well and this was a recurrence but when it happened again yesterday I rolled my eyes and thought he was just trying to slow the game down. Nonetheless, that decision had nothing to do with the result. Sure we won the resulting throw in and got a chance to clear the ball anyway.
Overall, we can't argue with the result. Roscommon won by virtue of being slightly less rubbish than us.
I had to laugh at the carry on behind the goals at the scoreboard end. This was the end that the wind was blowing into. In the first half there was no spare ball behind the goals so when Monaghan got a point the Roscommon goalie had to go retrieve the ball and then go back and get his tee before kicking it out, thus wasting a nice wee bit of time. But when Monaghan were defending that goal in the second half the Roscommon backroom team put FIVE spare balls behind the goals. The Monaghan goalie then spent the second half kicking the spare balls away as the umpires and boys behind the goals kept kicking them back to him. A funny little aside.
I don't like Hyde Park. It's too high up with no shelter at all. That wind yesterday would cut you in two. I'd be happy enough not to go back there.
By the way, we will beat Antrim and go up anyway so it's not all doom and gloom.
Quote from: charlie linkbox on March 25, 2013, 10:29:55 AM
God this Monaghan team is frustrating.
When we're good we can actually produce some decent stuff. But when we're bad there are few worse.
Yesterday was the latter. So many things were wrong.
We didn't use the wind at all correctly in the first half. There was far far too much lateral hand passing and then too often just a hopeful punt into the square. No intelligence to our forward play at all. At one stage in the first half we did not have a single player inside Roscommon's 45, and this was WITH the wind. Or else we were seeing pot shots from way out the field from players like Kieran Duffy or Gavin Doogan, hardly renowned scorers. Then McManus missed a sitter of a free from in front of the goals about 25m out. Incredible stuff.
Our "tackling" was abysmal. I expected a foul every time we went in for a tackle and I was right most of the time. Do they practice tackling at all with all the lazy, stupid pulling and dragging going on? Again, we'd often be doing ok keeping Roscommon out and forcing them to go sideways and then someone would do something stupid in a tackle and undo all the good work.
Regarding the goalkeeper injury incident, I must confess that I thought he was playacting too. Last Wednesday in the U21 game against Cavan he did the same thing. He lay down for a bit after Cavan got a point but was then fit to continue. Now maybe I'm doing him a disservice; maybe he did have a problem in that game against Cavan as well and this was a recurrence but when it happened again yesterday I rolled my eyes and thought he was just trying to slow the game down. Nonetheless, that decision had nothing to do with the result. Sure we won the resulting throw in and got a chance to clear the ball anyway.
Overall, we can't argue with the result. Roscommon won by virtue of being slightly less rubbish than us.
I had to laugh at the carry on behind the goals at the scoreboard end. This was the end that the wind was blowing into. In the first half there was no spare ball behind the goals so when Monaghan got a point the Roscommon goalie had to go retrieve the ball and then go back and get his tee before kicking it out, thus wasting a nice wee bit of time. But when Monaghan were defending that goal in the second half the Roscommon backroom team put FIVE spare balls behind the goals. The Monaghan goalie then spent the second half kicking the spare balls away as the umpires and boys behind the goals kept kicking them back to him. A funny little aside.
I don't like Hyde Park. It's too high up with no shelter at all. That wind yesterday would cut you in two. I'd be happy enough not to go back there.
By the way, we will beat Antrim and go up anyway so it's not all doom and gloom.
Hope you have to eat those words
Quote from: charlie linkbox on March 25, 2013, 10:29:55 AM
I had to laugh at the carry on behind the goals at the scoreboard end. This was the end that the wind was blowing into. In the first half there was no spare ball behind the goals so when Monaghan got a point the Roscommon goalie had to go retrieve the ball and then go back and get his tee before kicking it out, thus wasting a nice wee bit of time. But when Monaghan were defending that goal in the second half the Roscommon backroom team put FIVE spare balls behind the goals. The Monaghan goalie then spent the second half kicking the spare balls away as the umpires and boys behind the goals kept kicking them back to him. A funny little aside.
I suspect Syferus was the architect of that particular stroke ;D
These Connacht lads are the new cute hoors.
Quote from: Gold on March 25, 2013, 10:36:02 AM
Quote from: charlie linkbox on March 25, 2013, 10:29:55 AM
By the way, we will beat Antrim and go up anyway so it's not all doom and gloom.
Hope you have to eat those words
;D I figured someone would bite at that remark!!!
Antrim v Meath re-scheduled for 1:15pm next Sunday, 31st.
Quote from: CC1 on March 24, 2013, 11:46:59 PM
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Quote from: Itchy on March 24, 2013, 05:50:26 PM
Yes Rodney. Unfortunately we are dependent on antrim to do something in clones but you never know and also fermanagh to not lose to meath. Our advantage is if we finish level with Monaghan or meath we will be above them as it is head to head that count. Both ros and Cavan are in the hunt still!
Antrim can do whatever they want in Clones, but if they don't do it in Inniskeen, it'll make no difference.
And if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan all end up with 8 points, Monaghan are likely to go up on scoring difference.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but would Cavan not go up if Cavan, Meath and Monaghan end up on the same points due to the fact that Cavan beat both Meath and Monaghan. I don't think that points difference comes into it in that instance.
You're wrong.
You didn't correct me dipshit. ::)
I did. And as there were only two scenarios, I assumed that if I told you that your scenario was wrong, you'd be smart enough not to need the alternative spelt out. Always a shame to resort to insults too, don't you think?
Very little separating a lot of the teams going into the final round. Makes it interesting - and personally glad we're finishing with a home game - but it seems to me that there are no teams here that are 'too good' for division 3 - whatever two teams go up this year are likely to struggle to stay up next year.
Don't think there's much of a gulf between D2 and D3, it's probably one of the simpler jumps to make right now.
With all due respects, most of the current D2 would find it rough sledding in D3 themselves. Once you get over the culture shock of your most brainless mistakes being punished most teams in D3 would have a live chance at being comfortably mid-table in D2.
Quote from: Syferus on March 25, 2013, 06:44:59 PM
Don't think there's much of a gulf between D2 and D3, it's probably one of the simpler jumps to make right now.
With all due respects, most of the current D2 would find it rough sledding in D3 themselves. Once you get over the culture shock of your most brainless mistakes being punished most teams in D3 would have a live chance at being comfortably mid-table in D2.
Laois are better than Meath. Louth are better than Ros. Longford are going straight back down.
Quote from: Syferus on March 25, 2013, 06:44:59 PM
Don't think there's much of a gulf between D2 and D3, it's probably one of the simpler jumps to make right now.
With all due respects, most of the current D2 would find it rough sledding in D3 themselves. Once you get over the culture shock of your most brainless mistakes being punished most teams in D3 would have a live chance at being comfortably mid-table in D2.
I don't think its possible to be comfortably mid table in a group of eight teams.
Quote from: charlie linkbox on March 25, 2013, 10:29:55 AM
God this Monaghan team is frustrating.
I don't like Hyde Park. It's too high up with no shelter at all. .
Why didn't you go in the stand?
The whole game was frustrating to watch as two poor teams of 13 man defences handpassed themselves into cul de sacs until we eventually woke up a biteen in the last 10 minutes and took a few risks and it paid off as we scored the last 4 points of the game.
People claimed afterwards we now have our defence sorted out. I wouldn't be too sure of that- the amount of times
Monaghan's no 11 ( playing full and only ! forward for most of game ) was lost by our man was something else. A few times the Monaghan no 6 ran at us he just sliced through without a bother.
Luckily they were in such a defensive mindset plus plenty of wides they never really asked the questions.
Our lads plugged away with their rugby league puke football until we opened a small bit near the end and wone the bloody game.
Hopefully we don't go up as we're nowhere near ready or settled yet.
We'd be next year's Longford if we go up because despite
Syfeen's ramblings there IS a big difference between D2 and D 3 so let's learn to walk first.
And Longford are without Barden and Brian Kavanagh and they're still desperately unlucky not to have four points. Where are Wexford?
Let's look at who or what D2 is - Galway, Derry, Longford, Louth, Laois, Wexford, the Apples and Western Meath.
It wouldn't be at all impossible for at least three or four of the current D3 teams to gather four or five points from seven games.
I think people conflate D2 with an ideal of way better teams but in reality it's much more marginal than that and Monaghan's, and perhaps Armagh's, immediate fall from D1 to D3 is probably the most telling aspect of the entire league - no leap in any direction is all that huge.
A stint in Div 3 does encourage some humility, but doesn't impose serious self esteem issues.
Quote from: charlie linkbox on March 25, 2013, 10:29:55 AM
I don't like Hyde Park.
I don't mind the Hyde
so long as it's in the rear view mirror and there's another Nestor Cup in the bag :D :D
Roscommon is a bit like Monaghan, it's a place to pass through on your way to somewhere else.
The longer you stay in div 3 the more bad habits you develop. For young side like ourselves it's hugely important we get out of this division it's not going to happen this year but with stronger panel to choose from hopefully we can do it next year. Hard to believe it's 10 years since we got relegated from Div 1 (in 2002 we topped the table) back then we played in front of 5 to 10k crowds those were the days i suppose.
Quote from: ross4life on March 25, 2013, 10:58:18 PM
The longer you stay in div 3 the more bad habits you develop. For young side like ourselves it's hugely important we get out of this division it's not going to happen this year but with stronger panel to choose from hopefully we can do it next year. Hard to believe it's 10 years since we got relegated from Div 1 (in 2002 we topped the table) back then we played in front of 5 to 10k crowds those were the days i suppose.
Was that the year we gave ye a good batin in Mullingar in the semi?
Heard on the way home after that abysmal display in Hyde park that the capacity in inniskeen has been reduced and that the game against Antrim may well be refixed and played in Clones.
Quote from: Itchy on March 25, 2013, 11:04:39 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 25, 2013, 10:58:18 PM
The longer you stay in div 3 the more bad habits you develop. For young side like ourselves it's hugely important we get out of this division it's not going to happen this year but with stronger panel to choose from hopefully we can do it next year. Hard to believe it's 10 years since we got relegated from Div 1 (in 2002 we topped the table) back then we played in front of 5 to 10k crowds those were the days i suppose.
Was that the year we gave ye a good batin in Mullingar in the semi?
Yes 2002 would have been the goalfest in Mullingar. The same Cavan didn't show up for the final.
Quote from: ross4life on March 25, 2013, 11:09:06 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 25, 2013, 11:04:39 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 25, 2013, 10:58:18 PM
The longer you stay in div 3 the more bad habits you develop. For young side like ourselves it's hugely important we get out of this division it's not going to happen this year but with stronger panel to choose from hopefully we can do it next year. Hard to believe it's 10 years since we got relegated from Div 1 (in 2002 we topped the table) back then we played in front of 5 to 10k crowds those were the days i suppose.
Was that the year we gave ye a good batin in Mullingar in the semi?
Yes 2002 would have been the goalfest in Mullingar. The same Cavan didn't show up for the final.
That was a epic game, them Tyrone crowd gave us a hammering in the final in Clones.
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Quote from: charlie linkbox on March 25, 2013, 10:29:55 AM
I had to laugh at the carry on behind the goals at the scoreboard end. This was the end that the wind was blowing into. In the first half there was no spare ball behind the goals so when Monaghan got a point the Roscommon goalie had to go retrieve the ball and then go back and get his tee before kicking it out, thus wasting a nice wee bit of time. But when Monaghan were defending that goal in the second half the Roscommon backroom team put FIVE spare balls behind the goals. The Monaghan goalie then spent the second half kicking the spare balls away as the umpires and boys behind the goals kept kicking them back to him. A funny little aside.
I suspect Syferus was the architect of that particular stroke ;D
These Connacht lads are the new cute hoors.
Bejangles, sorry about that lads. Just got a wee bit too excited when I saw Darren O'Malley in goals for us.
Great to a Michael Glavey's man in county colours again, let alone in goal - my dad served his time between the sticks for Glavey's. Couldn't help lofting a few balls at his opposite number so he looked even better by comparison. :D
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Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 24, 2013, 03:16:38 PM
Another second half collapse by us
Do ye have a fitness problem, thats a ridiculous collapse again!
With a 12 week intensive training programme (think wheelie bins, shovels, sand dunes...) before Christmas that if you couldn't commit fully too you were dropped from the panel with no way back (unless you are Phillip Green or James Kilcullen) one would imagine fitness shouldn't be an issue. My personal theory is related to that - I think they're tired physically and/or mentally. Only my theory with very little to back it up but something is very wrong though because these second half collapses are too common for it to be a coincidence.
So we need to hope Antrim don't pull a win or two draws out against Meath and Monaghan and that after our second half collapse against Wicklow we are still ahead of them or it's the bowels of the NFL for us, again. Our ties to Antrim will most likely be broken after this.
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Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 24, 2013, 03:16:38 PM
Another second half collapse by us
Do ye have a fitness problem, thats a ridiculous collapse again!
With a 12 week intensive training programme (think wheelie bins, shovels, sand dunes...) before Christmas that if you couldn't commit fully too you were dropped from the panel with no way back (unless you are Phillip Green or James Kilcullen) one would imagine fitness shouldn't be an issue. My personal theory is related to that - I think they're tired physically and/or mentally. Only my theory with very little to back it up but something is very wrong though because these second half collapses are too common for it to be a coincidence.
So we need to hope Antrim don't pull a win or two draws out against Meath and Monaghan and that after our second half collapse against Wicklow we are still ahead of them or it's the bowels of the NFL for us, again. Our ties to Antrim will most likely be broken after this.
It's ironic that's the lads who were dropped, forced out or opted out due to the crazy training regime in Nov/Dec would probably be in better physical condition that the current Sligo squad who had to endure training of dragging wheelie bins full of sand around sand dunes.
In Sligo last 2 games we have been out scored in the second half by 22 points to 6. That says it all. Would be interesting to know what it is for the rest of the games.
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Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 24, 2013, 03:23:14 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 24, 2013, 03:16:38 PM
Another second half collapse by us
Do ye have a fitness problem, thats a ridiculous collapse again!
With a 12 week intensive training programme (think wheelie bins, shovels, sand dunes...) before Christmas that if you couldn't commit fully too you were dropped from the panel with no way back (unless you are Phillip Green or James Kilcullen) one would imagine fitness shouldn't be an issue. My personal theory is related to that - I think they're tired physically and/or mentally. Only my theory with very little to back it up but something is very wrong though because these second half collapses are too common for it to be a coincidence.
So we need to hope Antrim don't pull a win or two draws out against Meath and Monaghan and that after our second half collapse against Wicklow we are still ahead of them or it's the bowels of the NFL for us, again. Our ties to Antrim will most likely be broken after this.
That must be some castle they're building.
Quote from: Jinxy on March 26, 2013, 02:51:00 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 26, 2013, 09:30:28 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 24, 2013, 03:23:14 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 24, 2013, 03:16:38 PM
Another second half collapse by us
Do ye have a fitness problem, thats a ridiculous collapse again!
With a 12 week intensive training programme (think wheelie bins, shovels, sand dunes...) before Christmas that if you couldn't commit fully too you were dropped from the panel with no way back (unless you are Phillip Green or James Kilcullen) one would imagine fitness shouldn't be an issue. My personal theory is related to that - I think they're tired physically and/or mentally. Only my theory with very little to back it up but something is very wrong though because these second half collapses are too common for it to be a coincidence.
So we need to hope Antrim don't pull a win or two draws out against Meath and Monaghan and that after our second half collapse against Wicklow we are still ahead of them or it's the bowels of the NFL for us, again. Our ties to Antrim will most likely be broken after this.
That must be some castle they're building.
It's built on sand!
Quote An Mhí XV in aghaidh Aontroma
Paddy O'Rourke
Donal Keogan Brian Menton Caolan Young
Ciaran Lenihan Kevin Reilly Davy Dalton
Brian Meade Conor Gillespie
David Larkin Graham Reilly Peadar Byrne
Eamonn Wallace Brian Farrell Michael Newman.
Keoghan not playing well at the minute and unless he recovers form soon Seán Curran might be a better choice. I'd also prefer to see Harrington on the wing than Lenihan, Harrington hasn't been playing well at centre-half back but he's still a very good defender. I'm not convinced by Lenihan. Stephen Bray ultimately should fit into the forward line ahead of Larkin, not sure if he's still carrying a bit of an injury though. K Reilly to CHB is a very good move in my opinion, we need a physical presence in that part of the field. Gillespie and Meade really need to start asserting themselves in the middle though, seems to me that they've never both played well in the same game. Perhaps that's a little harsh though. Our forwards are dangerous, particularly G Reilly and Newman. The rest will be more useful in creating play than taking chances. Brian Farrell at full forward suggests a low ball into the forwards will be the main tactic of the day.
Gwan de Royal!
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 29, 2013, 02:10:57 PM
Gwan de Royals!
Absolutely no need for the 's' at the end of that!
Corrected.
And no offense Antrim but I think it's time we went our seperate ways. Just hope it's us that stays up and not ye.
All we need is for Antrim to win out and only the Caaavan men stand between us and the dizzying heights of D2 football. 8)
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Im wondering about "in aghaidh na hAontroma" myself.
Well feel free to correct me but the T.G. follows 'in aghaidh', doesn't it? And 'Aontroma' is the correct T.G. of Aontroim ... so I don't see what's wrong?
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Im wondering about "in aghaidh na hAontroma" myself.
Well feel free to correct me but the T.G. follows 'in aghaidh', doesn't it? And 'Aontroma' is the correct T.G. of Aontroim ... so I don't see what's wrong?
Don't see the need for the na h.
Éireann versus na hÉireann ... same thing isn't it?
Quote from: hardstation on March 29, 2013, 02:36:14 PM
It's Contae Aontroma.
I think both are valid, to be honest. I've seen
Contae Iarmhí and
Contae na hIarmhí too so it's the same thing with Antrim, surely.
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Quote from: hardstation on March 29, 2013, 02:36:14 PM
It's Contae Aontroma.
I think both are valid, to be honest. I've seen Contae Iarmhí and Contae na hIarmhí too so it's the same thing with Antrim, surely.
It's An Iarmhi but not An Aontroim.
Ah, I see.
It's not
'An Éire' either of course but I think you're probably right in this case.
Quote from: Syferus on March 29, 2013, 02:25:46 PM
All we need is for Antrim to win out and only the Caaavan men stand between us and the dizzying heights of D2 football. 8)
Dont think you are right there. Best result is a draw to make sure Antrim are going hell for leather to beat Monaghan in the last game. Ros's score difference is worse than ours so if Ros or Cavan finish in a 3 way tie then that is the end of the chances of promotion.
I reckon Antrim draw with Meath.
Antrim beat or draw with Monaghan
Fermanagh beat or draw with Meath.
Cavan destroy Roscommon
Happy Days.
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Quote from: Syferus on March 29, 2013, 02:25:46 PM
All we need is for Antrim to win out and only the Caaavan men stand between us and the dizzying heights of D2 football. 8)
Dont think you are right there. Best result is a draw to make sure Antrim are going hell for leather to beat Monaghan in the last game. Ros's score difference is worse than ours so if Ros or Cavan finish in a 3 way tie then that is the end of the chances of promotion.
I reckon Antrim draw with Meath.
Antrim beat or draw with Monaghan
Fermanagh beat or draw with Meath.
Cavan destroy Roscommon
Happy Days.
Ye'll need to be a hell of a lot better than you were last year to do that and we'll have all the Brigid's lads back in time for the Hasting Derby :-X
Syferus will you please stop talking sh1te. :-[
Hastings Derby FFS >:(
Quote from: Rossfan on March 29, 2013, 03:42:55 PM
Syferus will you please stop talking sh1te. :-[
Hastings Derby FFS >:(
We'll win at least three more All-Irelands this year, too.
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Syferus will you please stop talking sh1te. :-[
Hastings Derby FFS >:(
We'll win at least three more All-Irelands this year, too.
WE haven't won any yet. ;)
St Brigid's from Kiltoom/Cam/Curraghboy and the likes won a CLUB one.
Will ye play Brigid's players next week?
Best of luck to Meath this weekend...no offence Antrim, it us or ye,
Quote from: Itchy on March 29, 2013, 07:02:32 PM
Will ye play Brigid's players next week?
Ian Kilbride,Peter Domican returned to the panel last week Karol Mannion,Senan Kilbride etc still have to return. We also have a number of injuries Sean Purcell,Cathal Shine,Donal Shine,Donal Ward.
Must be worrying time for both Antrim,Sligo supporters i'm just happy we are out of the relegation dogfight. It's hard to believe only three years ago both Antrim,Sligo were promoted to div 2 & now one of them will be playing div 4 football next year.
Quote from: hardstation on March 29, 2013, 07:27:59 PM
After all we've been through, you Sligo bastids are all about yourselves.
Well best of luck to Sligo and may the team that deserves the drop get the drop. Sure, staying up would only be hiding the cracks.
I hope Antrim stay up because of hardstation. (I think he's a sound fella from reading his posts - the ones I read that is) Who can forget last year when they beat Galway. :D
Quote from: hardstation on March 29, 2013, 07:27:59 PM
After all we've been through, you Sligo bastids are all about yourselves.
Well best of luck to Sligo and may the team that deserves the drop get the drop. Sure, staying up would only be hiding the cracks.
Well hardstation its the end of the road for us, i think antrim are a great county, great fans and will always have a soft spot for ye, hope ye win ulster every yr, but in this case i have to be selfish, ;) the main crack for us is Kevin Walsh..... i know it and most people in Sligo know it...
Good luck after the League....hope whoever goes down comes straight back up
Ah ffs. This thread was a mighty spot earlier Cavan slagging meath and Monaghan. Fermanagh slagging Cavan. Ros fighting with everyone. Umbrellas. Now we have a f**king love in between antrim and sligo. Pathetic
Quote from: Rossfan on March 29, 2013, 06:39:46 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 29, 2013, 04:33:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 29, 2013, 03:42:55 PM
Syferus will you please stop talking sh1te. :-[
Hastings Derby FFS >:(
We'll win at least three more All-Irelands this year, too.
WE haven't won any yet. ;)
St Brigid's from Kiltoom/Cam/Curraghboy and the likes won a CLUB one.
You wouldn't be saying that if you saw the state of the lads outside Sissy McGinty's on Paddy's night, boss.
Oh, and you forgot a few slivers of Brideswell there too.
Quote from: Syferus on March 29, 2013, 09:02:22 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 29, 2013, 06:39:46 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 29, 2013, 04:33:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 29, 2013, 03:42:55 PM
Syferus will you please stop talking sh1te. :-[
Hastings Derby FFS >:(
We'll win at least three more All-Irelands this year, too.
WE haven't won any yet. ;)
St Brigid's from Kiltoom/Cam/Curraghboy and the likes won a CLUB one.
You wouldn't be saying that if you saw the state of the lads outside Sissy McGinty's on Paddy's night, boss.
And that is why the "lads " won't be taking Brigid's Title anyway. >:(
Quote from: Rossfan on March 29, 2013, 09:08:16 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 29, 2013, 09:02:22 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 29, 2013, 06:39:46 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 29, 2013, 04:33:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 29, 2013, 03:42:55 PM
Syferus will you please stop talking sh1te. :-[
Hastings Derby FFS >:(
We'll win at least three more All-Irelands this year, too.
WE haven't won any yet. ;)
St Brigid's from Kiltoom/Cam/Curraghboy and the likes won a CLUB one.
You wouldn't be saying that if you saw the state of the lads outside Sissy McGinty's on Paddy's night, boss.
And that is why the "lads " won't be taking Brigid's Title anyway. >:(
Don't worry, Castlerea's most famous (beardless) son already has an AI medal in his pocket ;)
Was gone a long time from ye before he won it so stop trying to claim that medal.
As for the beardless one :P "Ring Ming but not while driving" ;D as I saw in one of the St Pat's Day parades.
Pádraig Hughes brought in to replace original referee for the game in Casement amarach.
Quote from: drici on March 30, 2013, 11:52:40 AM
Pádraig Hughes brought in to replace original referee for the game in Casement amarach.
Sorry hardstation
How bad are Antrim. That's a pathetic showing against a mediocre Meath team. Not a hope they'll beat Monaghan in the last round. Many thought them an up and coming team but seems they are as bad as ever.
Quote from: Itchy on March 31, 2013, 03:40:02 PM
How bad are Antrim. That's a pathetic showing against a mediocre Meath team. Not a hope they'll beat Monaghan in the last round. Many thought them an up and coming team but seems they are as bad as ever.
in fairness Meath played well today and were well up for this match. on our day we are a lot better than Antrim so its no big surprise that we won. of course Antrim wern't helped by the sending off either but in general we would have a better team than Antrim and we showed that today.
I think Meath will have too much for Fermanagh in Navan next week weekend, and get promoted. Cavan were relying on Antrim to do a few favours, but after that hammering, they will hardly beat Monaghan.
We still have to beat Wicklow to have any chance and cannot see us winning easy, no doubt struggle ahead. Can't see Antrim beating Monaghan away but if they do they deserve to stay up. Exciting last weekend for us all with promotion up for grabs.
I can see Meath belly-flopping against God's men, I could even see us beating Cavan if we play to our potential but Antrim in Monaghan, I don't know.
D3 has thrown up unexpected results but an Antrim win there would top anything we've seen so far. They'll at least be motivated but I don't think you'll have to deal with that dreadful umbrella salesman next year, Gold.
From the perspective of Div 4,
Gold's memory of the umbrella man in Div 3 will become one of his fonder reminiscences.
If Sligo were to hand pick a game to stay up i think it would be against already relegated Wicklow at home. Meath v Fermanagh game will decide the final promotion spot as Monaghan should beat Antrim comfortably.
Quote from: ross4life on March 31, 2013, 06:15:57 PM
If Sligo were to hand pick a game to stay up i think it would be against already relegated Wicklow at home. Meath v Fermanagh game will decide the final promotion spot as Monaghan should beat Antrim comfortably.
there is a good a chance of us fcking it up as there is us winning...50/50 all the pressure on us, will we flop or will we deliver, who knows. We'll find out this day week. We've seen the sublime to the ridiculous from us in this league campaign, even in the same game so I ain't predicting anything.
Mad that 5 teams are still in with a shout for promotion on the final day. There'll be a lot of listening to other matches on the radio and refreshing Twitter feeds next Sunday!
Quote from: ross4life on March 31, 2013, 06:15:57 PM
If Sligo were to hand pick a game to stay up i think it would be against already relegated Wicklow at home. Meath v Fermanagh game will decide the final promotion spot as Monaghan should beat Antrim comfortably.
Wicklow are not gone yet. Antrim lost by 11 at home. A fifteen point tanking for them on Sunday coming along with a three point win for Wicklow would keep the Sligo/Antrim relationship intact.
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2013, 08:15:41 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 31, 2013, 03:40:02 PM
How bad are Antrim. That's a pathetic showing against a mediocre Meath team. Not a hope they'll beat Monaghan in the last round. Many thought them an up and coming team but seems they are as bad as ever.
I like that. This is the same Antrim who have beaten Cavan in every game (there have been a lot) since 2008?
In saying that, we are in a bad place right now and Monaghan will beat us by as many as they want.
The past is just that. Right now ye are shockingly bad and don't seem to have the balls for the fight. Bit like last yr when Cavan hadn't the balls for a fight against ye in the league in Breffni. I'd have given ye a shot at beating Meath as they are no good either but getting that beating is a very bad sign and I've no doubt ye belong in div 4.
Quote from: drici on March 31, 2013, 08:15:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 31, 2013, 06:15:57 PM
If Sligo were to hand pick a game to stay up i think it would be against already relegated Wicklow at home. Meath v Fermanagh game will decide the final promotion spot as Monaghan should beat Antrim comfortably.
Wicklow are not gone yet. Antrim lost by 11 at home. A fifteen point tanking for them on Sunday coming along with a three point win for Wicklow would keep the Sligo/Antrim relationship intact.
Interesting. Had forgotten Wicklow v Antrim ended in a draw.
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2013, 08:30:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 31, 2013, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2013, 08:15:41 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 31, 2013, 03:40:02 PM
How bad are Antrim. That's a pathetic showing against a mediocre Meath team. Not a hope they'll beat Monaghan in the last round. Many thought them an up and coming team but seems they are as bad as ever.
I like that. This is the same Antrim who have beaten Cavan in every game (there have been a lot) since 2008?
In saying that, we are in a bad place right now and Monaghan will beat us by as many as they want.
The past is just that. Right now ye are shockingly bad and don't seem to have the balls for the fight. Bit like last yr when Cavan hadn't the balls for a fight against ye in the league in Breffni. I'd have given ye a shot at beating Meath as they are no good either but getting that beating is a very bad sign and I've no doubt ye belong in div 4.
We had enough fight to beat ye this year too.
Ye did and deserved it too but alas today the fight is gone. Pity but Monaghan will need to win and will give ye a bug beating I think.
I'd almost be sad if we're promoted because the D3 thread is always the best craic of the year on here.
Quote from: Itchy on March 31, 2013, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2013, 08:15:41 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 31, 2013, 03:40:02 PM
How bad are Antrim. That's a pathetic showing against a mediocre Meath team. Not a hope they'll beat Monaghan in the last round. Many thought them an up and coming team but seems they are as bad as ever.
I like that. This is the same Antrim who have beaten Cavan in every game (there have been a lot) since 2008?
In saying that, we are in a bad place right now and Monaghan will beat us by as many as they want.
The past is just that. Right now ye are shockingly bad and don't seem to have the balls for the fight. Bit like last yr when Cavan hadn't the balls for a fight against ye in the league in Breffni. I'd have given ye a shot at beating Meath as they are no good either but getting that beating is a very bad sign and I've no doubt ye belong in div 4.
Here you are talking shite, Meath made a bad start getting 2 bad beatings by Monaghan and Cavan. but they got their act together and are now in with a great chance of getting promotion. Antrim beat us in the first game so don't forget that..
Cavan blew it against Fermanagh, the referee did us no favours either.
Another year in Division 3 isn't the end of the world for Cavan. Its a young side, if they were to go up next year, they will be better prepared, as I think they would struggle in Division 2.
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 31, 2013, 08:46:38 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 31, 2013, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2013, 08:15:41 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 31, 2013, 03:40:02 PM
How bad are Antrim. That's a pathetic showing against a mediocre Meath team. Not a hope they'll beat Monaghan in the last round. Many thought them an up and coming team but seems they are as bad as ever.
I like that. This is the same Antrim who have beaten Cavan in every game (there have been a lot) since 2008?
In saying that, we are in a bad place right now and Monaghan will beat us by as many as they want.
The past is just that. Right now ye are shockingly bad and don't seem to have the balls for the fight. Bit like last yr when Cavan hadn't the balls for a fight against ye in the league in Breffni. I'd have given ye a shot at beating Meath as they are no good either but getting that beating is a very bad sign and I've no doubt ye belong in div 4.
Here you are talking shite, Meath made a bad start getting 2 bad beatings by Monaghan and Cavan. but they got their act together and are now in with a great chance of getting promotion. Antrim beat us in the first game so don't forget that..
Cavan blew it against Fermanagh, the referee did us no favours either.
Another year in Division 3 isn't the end of the world for Cavan. Its a young side, if they were to go up next year, they will be better prepared, as I think they would struggle in Division 2.
Where am I talking shite Rodney. Antrim haven't a hope of beating Monaghan and Meath are a mediocre team, I venture most of the meath posters would agree. Try to refrain from coming in with overly aggressive comments especially when you can read that I acknowledge antrim beat us and deservedly so.
Meath are an average D3 team, honestly, much like ourselves and Cavan. Apart from Menton they are brittle at back and they barely have a single consistent forward these days. All three of us are young teams but there's hope for the future if all goes well, we're just not going to be favourites for the AISFs for a while.
Quote from: Itchy on March 31, 2013, 08:50:52 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 31, 2013, 08:46:38 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 31, 2013, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2013, 08:15:41 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 31, 2013, 03:40:02 PM
How bad are Antrim. That's a pathetic showing against a mediocre Meath team. Not a hope they'll beat Monaghan in the last round. Many thought them an up and coming team but seems they are as bad as ever.
I like that. This is the same Antrim who have beaten Cavan in every game (there have been a lot) since 2008?
In saying that, we are in a bad place right now and Monaghan will beat us by as many as they want.
The past is just that. Right now ye are shockingly bad and don't seem to have the balls for the fight. Bit like last yr when Cavan hadn't the balls for a fight against ye in the league in Breffni. I'd have given ye a shot at beating Meath as they are no good either but getting that beating is a very bad sign and I've no doubt ye belong in div 4.
Here you are talking shite, Meath made a bad start getting 2 bad beatings by Monaghan and Cavan. but they got their act together and are now in with a great chance of getting promotion. Antrim beat us in the first game so don't forget that..
Cavan blew it against Fermanagh, the referee did us no favours either.
Another year in Division 3 isn't the end of the world for Cavan. Its a young side, if they were to go up next year, they will be better prepared, as I think they would struggle in Division 2.
Where am I talking shite Rodney. Antrim haven't a hope of beating Monaghan and Meath are a mediocre team, I venture most of the meath posters would agree. Try to refrain from coming in with overly aggressive comments especially when you can read that I acknowledge antrim beat us and deservedly so.
Yes you needed to be reminded that Antrim beat us this in the first round of the League, If you had said that at first it wouldn't have looked as bad, as Cavan's record against them is terrible.
I was at the game in Belfast Rodney, I don't need reminding who won ::)
Quote from: Itchy on March 31, 2013, 03:40:02 PM
How bad are Antrim. That's a pathetic showing against a mediocre Meath team. Not a hope they'll beat Monaghan in the last round. Many thought them an up and coming team but seems they are as bad as ever.
Bad enough to beat Cavan in the first game, you were over looking that fact, whatever you were at it or not is a different story.
Despite what happens next weekend against Meath, it has been a solid league campaign for Fermanagh. Hopefully we can do the business though. I think one side of the Ulster draw is wide open with Cavan/Armagh/Monaghan/Fermanagh/Antrim fancying themselves of beating the other.
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2013, 09:08:52 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 31, 2013, 09:06:37 PM
I was at the game in Belfast Rodney, I don't need reminding who won ::)
I think it's the "as bad as ever" comment, Ithcy. I mean, we weren't this bad when we gained promotion to Div 2 and reached the Ulster final. In fact, we haven't been this bad in a right while.
What I meant was as bad as ye were prior to your more recent revival (over the past few years) during which many of us thought ye were a coming team but ye seem to have gone way back for some reason.
Rodney- I've no idea what you are rambling on about so please just stop cos your giving me a headache.
Fairly self explanatory. :) bit like when explaining James Reilly wasn't dropped...
Careful now Rodney, I dont want the Celt to quote you again and then have you publicly fill your togs. :-*
Oh I'm sure you will make it soon Itchy, :-* between Hoganstand and here, and still don't get a mention
Big test next week, looking forward to it. I would be hopeful of winning, not based alone on today's performance but on the momentum we're building and the players we do have. Joe Sheridan only played a cameo role today, and Bray didn't even get in. So there are certainly options when picking the team for the next day. I expect Harrington to start ahead of Keoghan for the next day (not that he did anything wrong today) and Curran may get in ahead of Lenihan. K Reilly to CHB is an inspired move and really prevents what happened against Cavan happening again - straight running through the middle of the defence. Antrim obviously very poor. I can't remember the last time we won by as much as that in a league game.
is cian ward injured?
Quote from: royals12 on March 31, 2013, 11:24:58 PM
is cian ward injured?
I don't think so. Was he not named amongst the subs?
We were awful today. We are missing so many players it's unreal.
There was no fight in us, no leaders.
We r missing a player James Loughrey who was are main man. Best defender and best attacking threat. He's moved to cork and will start for them in championship. His loss is immeasurable.
We are also missing our first choice midfield of mick mccann and aidso Gallagher (both self-imposed) and half the st galls team who would all start if they gave a f**k.
There's no pride in our county team. The joke is thAt the aforementioned missing Gall's men were at the game, not there to support, clap or cheer, just judge. Maybe 2 of our starting players yesterday would start for st galls. You'd think those boys would say let's do something about this, let's help our county, but this is the weirdest county in Ireland, people with no pride in themselves, preferring to run themselves down with a hands off attitude as if to say 'we're shite but it's nothing to do with me'.
If we had all the players we would be a div 2 team with AI quarter final (and certainly ulster final this year) aspirations.
But we don't so it's div four for us.
Our 'support' is awful. Again outnumbered and out shouted at home. The running joke is that our teams are never clapped out onto the pitch, just the opposition. Enough people run about wearin Antrim tops as Sectarian identifiers but wouldn't be fuckin near a game. Sure Celtic were playin St Mirran.
We used to have a similar problem with the Cavan Gaels. Lads of a certain age wouldnt play for us but thankfully the younger generation of Gaels player is now committing to the county team. Its a shame what you say as it was great to see a new county contest an Ulster final.
Quote from: Gold on April 01, 2013, 07:19:09 AM
We were awful today. We are missing so many players it's unreal.
There was no fight in us, no leaders.
We r missing a player James Loughrey who was are main man. Best defender and best attacking threat. He's moved to cork and will start for them in championship. His loss is immeasurable.
We are also missing our first choice midfield of mick mccann and aidso Gallagher (both self-imposed) and half the st galls team who would all start if they gave a f**k.
There's no pride in our county team. The joke is thAt the aforementioned missing Gall's men were at the game, not there to support, clap or cheer, just judge. Maybe 2 of our starting players yesterday would start for st galls. You'd think those boys would say let's do something about this, let's help our county, but this is the weirdest county in Ireland, people with no pride in themselves, preferring to run themselves down with a hands off attitude as if to say 'we're shite but it's nothing to do with me'.
If we had all the players we would be a div 2 team with AI quarter final (and certainly ulster final this year) aspirations.
But we don't so it's div four for us.
Our 'support' is awful. Again outnumbered and out shouted at home. The running joke is that our teams are never clapped out onto the pitch, just the opposition. Enough people run about wearin Antrim tops as Sectarian identifiers but wouldn't be fuckin near a game. Sure Celtic were playin St Mirran.
Can't be blaming St Galls, 15 lads took to the pitch yesterday, they all did pre-season training and they all want to put the effort in for the county. The St Galls lads who have not put themselves forward I'm sure have their own reasons, we are talking about maybe 3 players. I know Out lads are training away for the senior team and this is relatively new as they never trained so early in the year like they are doing now. Maybe they think they have one more last go at Ulster and feel they left that behind against Kilcool.
I don't know why and it's not limited to football in Antrim, the hurling is the same playing for the county team seems to be a burden nowadays for some reason (well in Antrim anyway) Something needs done to bring pride back into the Antrim jersey. It is embarrassing
Quote from: Gold on April 01, 2013, 07:19:09 AM
We were awful today. We are missing so many players it's unreal.
There was no fight in us, no leaders.
We r missing a player James Loughrey who was are main man. Best defender and best attacking threat. He's moved to cork and will start for them in championship. His loss is immeasurable.
I'm sorry..... what?
Quote from: Jinxy on April 01, 2013, 03:45:48 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 01, 2013, 07:19:09 AM
We were awful today. We are missing so many players it's unreal.
There was no fight in us, no leaders.
We r missing a player James Loughrey who was are main man. Best defender and best attacking threat. He's moved to cork and will start for them in championship. His loss is immeasurable.
I'm sorry..... what?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/20676957 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/20676957)
I understand the chap is moving to Cork.
It's the other bit I don't understand.
First I've heard of it too.
He's not even in the Cork squad...
No reason why he shouldn't be in it mind you if they see enough of him.
Even then, would he necessarily "start" for them in the championship?
Probably not to be honest. O'Leary, Kissane and Canty is a strong HB line plus there's a few younger boys who are pretty good in there too.
He's brilliant by antrim standards but cork standards would be a good bit higher.
Huge one for us next weekend. Like Sligonian I'm not confident. If we don't win we shouldn't be in Div3 anyway. I think Wicklow beat us in the last competitive game between the two counties which was in the championship in 2011 I think.
Would be a wild sickener to win and Antrim to pull a win out against Monaghan!
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 02, 2013, 11:47:02 AM
Huge one for us next weekend. Like Sligonian I'm not confident. If we don't win we shouldn't be in Div3 anyway. I think Wicklow beat us in the last competitive game between the two counties which was in the championship in 2011 I think.
Would be a wild sickener to win and Antrim to pull a win out against Monaghan!
That would be a real sickener all right, Monaghan have alot to play for and are at home so jees surely theyll get over the line. We only need a draw then as we beat Antrim on the head to head. Any team that score 3-10 against Monaghan can beat Sligo and as you said they have beatin us before but that was in Aughrim. They had trouble with Marren that day, he scored 0-9 so hoping for something similar, there a team that score alot but also concede alot and that should suit us, an open game.
Quote from: Jinxy on April 02, 2013, 12:35:19 AM
I understand the chap is moving to Cork.
It's the other bit I don't understand.
As far as I know he only hooked up with the Mallow club recently. Highly unlikely to feature this year but could potentially make a Cork panel next year.
It appears that the Monaghan v Antrim game will be in Clones, and not Inniskeen as originally scheduled.
QuoteIt appears that the Monaghan v Antrim game will be in Clones, and not Inniskeen as originally scheduled.
Are they going to tell Antrim?
Quote from: Main Street on April 01, 2013, 11:04:37 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 01, 2013, 03:45:48 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 01, 2013, 07:19:09 AM
We were awful today. We are missing so many players it's unreal.
There was no fight in us, no leaders.
We r missing a player James Loughrey He's moved to cork and will start for them in championship.
I'm sorry..... what?
What date was that posted ? ;)
Actually another thing is we Sligonians should be thanking the Rossies for beating Monaghan last week and making them have promotion to play for this week. If they had won theyd be promoted already and probably field a weakened team this week. Thanks Neighbours. ;)
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 02, 2013, 11:43:46 AM
Probably not to be honest. O'Leary, Kissane and Canty is a strong HB line plus there's a few younger boys who are pretty good in there too.
He's brilliant by antrim standards but cork standards would be a good bit higher.
Loughrey would start, and I have no doubt that if he is given the chance he will prove that, and a lot of people will be surprised how good he actually is (maybe not in Ulster but beyond.) Clancy looks decent at half back for Cork, from the little I have seen of him.
Interesting tie this weekend from a Fermanagh perspective. How will Meath play considering we will play with a lot of players deep? Monaghan pushed up on us and smothered us coming out with the ball, to good effect. Sligo tried the same, which worked well initially but they couldn't sustain it. Meath are usually good at transferring the ball quickly (and IMO our main weakness is McGuinness at FB.) Shane McCabe at CHF is a small nippy play maker, Kevin Reilly will not be suited to him at all. Sligo made the mistake of leaving their CHB on him for the full game. Leaving Reilly free to hold the centre might be a better option for Meath, but McCabe thrives on space so he will need watched as well. Looking forward to the game.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on April 02, 2013, 02:38:03 PM
Actually another thing is we Sligonians should be thanking the Rossies for beating Monaghan last week and making them have promotion to play for this week. If they had won theyd be promoted already and probably field a weakened team this week. Thanks Neighbours. ;)
We also fielded a weakened team against you in 2010 to allow promotion for our good neighbours anyways
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79ia-c2BQwY
Quote from: ross4life on April 02, 2013, 06:24:49 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on April 02, 2013, 02:38:03 PM
Actually another thing is we Sligonians should be thanking the Rossies for beating Monaghan last week and making them have promotion to play for this week. If they had won theyd be promoted already and probably field a weakened team this week. Thanks Neighbours. ;)
We also fielded a weakened team against you in 2010 to allow promotion for our good neighbours anyways
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79ia-c2BQwY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcfqDPAy7zc lol ;D
and sligonian you do have the comfort of knowing that relegation to DIV 4, with a route of London and Leitrim to the connacht final did us no harm at all in 2010. But all that being said, Antrim won't take anything from monaghan so i'd expect you'll be safe enough
Connacht is the only division you could win after getting relegated to Div 4. Time for it to go the way of its sister hurling championship.
its not that long ago that offaly won Leinster from Division 4
So who are the new evacutees we might have next year? Longford have booked their ticket while the Apples would make for a whole hell of a lot of fun if they make the drop. Don't fancy either of the eventual D4 finalists to have the impact Fermanagh had this year so there could be a bigger than usual oopening for whatever three teams remain in D3 after Sunday.
The most important thing this weekend is making sure the stone throwers do not achieve (a thoroughly undeserved) promotion this weekend. This should be the priority of all counties in all four divisions this weekend so I hope there will be multilateral talks and cooperation at all levels. Tyrone, Louth and the Dubs are already on board for obvious reasons. Canavan has been on to Mugsy who has dyed his hair black and will line out for Fermanagh under the name Mugsy Malone. Paddy Keenan and Alan Brogan have also offered their services for one day only. We can get this done lads with one final push.
Be sick if Meath went up, but that's what is most likely to happen..
I dunno. Fermanagh look a better team and could easily pull out a result in Navan.
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 05:10:25 PM
I dunno. Fermanagh look a better team and could easily pull out a result in Navan.
Maybe if Fermanagh had them at home at the start of the league, like Monaghan. But it's hard to see past Meath winning in Navan, now that they've steadied the ship somewhat.
Can Roscommon be promoted or has the ship sailed?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 03, 2013, 05:21:04 PM
Can Roscommon be promoted or has the ship sailed?
They can go up with a few scenarios, as I see it - all of them require a Roscommon win and a number of other results to go their way. They have a terrible scoring difference though, so that doesn't help if it came down to it.
We'd have to bate Cavan and hope that Monaghan and Meath both lose.
Of course Cavan would have to bate us and hope........
Can't really see Monaghan losing but Meath and Fermanagh ???
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 03, 2013, 05:21:04 PM
Can Roscommon be promoted or has the ship sailed?
Unlikely to dock with a low tide.
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 05:10:25 PM
I dunno. Fermanagh look a better team and could easily pull out a result in Navan.
Fermanagh do look the better team but they go to Navan without the likes of Eoin Donnelly,Sean Quigley,James Sherry a uphill task for them.
We only need the mighty Saffrons to get a draw against Monaghan to open the door for us, Rossfan 8)
Quote from: Rossfan on April 03, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
We'd have to bate Cavan and hope that Monaghan and Meath both lose.
Of course Cavan would have to bate us and hope........
Can't really see Monaghan losing but Meath and Fermanagh ???
A draw for Monaghan or Meath might have been enough for Roscommon if the scoring difference wasn't so poor.
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 03, 2013, 05:43:43 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 03, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
We'd have to bate Cavan and hope that Monaghan and Meath both lose.
Of course Cavan would have to bate us and hope........
Can't really see Monaghan losing but Meath and Fermanagh ???
A draw for Monaghan or Meath might have been enough for Roscommon if the scoring difference wasn't so poor.
Or if we hadn't drawn with Wicklow at home, that last minute goal could be a real killer. TBH i can't see us winning in Breffni park we have awful record there and we are still missing a number of key players though some of St Brigids lads may get a start on Sunday as Conor Daly,Donie Smith,Colin Compton will need a rest after Saturdays U21 Connacht final.
Quote from: ross4life on April 03, 2013, 05:52:58 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 03, 2013, 05:43:43 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 03, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
We'd have to bate Cavan and hope that Monaghan and Meath both lose.
Of course Cavan would have to bate us and hope........
Can't really see Monaghan losing but Meath and Fermanagh ???
A draw for Monaghan or Meath might have been enough for Roscommon if the scoring difference wasn't so poor.
Or if we hadn't drawn with Wicklow at home, that last minute goal could be a real killer. TBH i can't see us winning in Breffni park we have awful record there and we are still missing a number of key players though some of St Brigids lads may get a start on Sunday as Conor Daly,Donie Smith,Colin Compton will need a rest after Saturdays U21 Connacht final.
I thought they needed a rest after the semi-final too. Evans and seemingly all Connacht senior managers are being reckless in their use of the U21 players so I won't be surprised if all but Compton feature on Sunday. Cavan will be missing their own U21s if they beat Down tonight because they ring fence them for the U21s once the championship starts. We beat Cavan handily last year with a less-than stellar performance so I wouldn't be surprised by a win this year too.
Either way it'd be great to enter the extended Summer holidays on the back of three good league wins and an AI club title.
Quote from: boojangles on April 03, 2013, 04:33:17 PM
The most important thing this weekend is making sure the stone throwers do not achieve (a thoroughly undeserved) promotion this weekend. This should be the priority of all counties in all four divisions this weekend so I hope there will be multilateral talks and cooperation at all levels. Tyrone, Louth and the Dubs are already on board for obvious reasons. Canavan has been on to Mugsy who has dyed his hair black and will line out for Fermanagh under the name Mugsy Malone. Paddy Keenan and Alan Brogan have also offered their services for one day only. We can get this done lads with one final push.
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 03, 2013, 05:08:22 PM
Be sick if Meath went up, but that's what is most likely to happen..
Disgraceful stuff.
I can't wait to get back to division 2.
You get a much better class of supporter there.
Quote from: Jinxy on April 03, 2013, 06:30:48 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 03, 2013, 04:33:17 PM
The most important thing this weekend is making sure the stone throwers do not achieve (a thoroughly undeserved) promotion this weekend. This should be the priority of all counties in all four divisions this weekend so I hope there will be multilateral talks and cooperation at all levels. Tyrone, Louth and the Dubs are already on board for obvious reasons. Canavan has been on to Mugsy who has dyed his hair black and will line out for Fermanagh under the name Mugsy Malone. Paddy Keenan and Alan Brogan have also offered their services for one day only. We can get this done lads with one final push.
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 03, 2013, 05:08:22 PM
Be sick if Meath went up, but that's what is most likely to happen..
Disgraceful stuff.
I can't wait to get back to division 2.
You get a much better class of supporter there.
There seems to be a hell of a lot less of them too, to be fair.
Division 2 is about quality, not quantity.
Especially now that the flourbags are out of it.
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 06:26:31 PM
We beat Cavan handily last year with a less-than stellar performance so I wouldn't be surprised by a win this year too.
We beat Cavan last year with a strong team scoring 1-17. The last few games we only managed 0-12 v Meath, 0-11 v Antrim and 0-8 v Monaghan that type of scoring is unlikely to be enough to beat Cavan in Breffni park.
Quote from: ross4life on April 03, 2013, 06:48:24 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 06:26:31 PM
We beat Cavan handily last year with a less-than stellar performance so I wouldn't be surprised by a win this year too.
We beat Cavan last year with a strong team scoring 1-17. The last few games we only managed 0-12 v Meath, 0-11 v Antrim and 0-8 v Monaghan that type of scoring is unlikely to be enough to beat Cavan in Breffni park.
We tagged on a lot of those points late on after we realised Cavan had run out of steam after putting it up to us for the first 35 and didn't have the cutting edge they'd need to trouble us. I think Kevin Higgins came on and scored three of those late points alone in the final 10 or 12 minutes.
Probably our best performance of last year's league but it's not like it was competing with anything particularly special.
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 06:26:31 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 03, 2013, 05:52:58 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 03, 2013, 05:43:43 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 03, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
We'd have to bate Cavan and hope that Monaghan and Meath both lose.
Of course Cavan would have to bate us and hope........
Can't really see Monaghan losing but Meath and Fermanagh ???
A draw for Monaghan or Meath might have been enough for Roscommon if the scoring difference wasn't so poor.
Or if we hadn't drawn with Wicklow at home, that last minute goal could be a real killer. TBH i can't see us winning in Breffni park we have awful record there and we are still missing a number of key players though some of St Brigids lads may get a start on Sunday as Conor Daly,Donie Smith,Colin Compton will need a rest after Saturdays U21 Connacht final.
I thought they needed a rest after the semi-final too. Evans and seemingly all Connacht senior managers are being reckless in their use of the U21 players so I won't be surprised if all but Compton feature on Sunday. Cavan will be missing their own U21s if they beat Down tonight because they ring fence them for the U21s once the championship starts. We beat Cavan handily last year with a less-than stellar performance so I wouldn't be surprised by a win this year too.
Either way it'd be great to enter the extended Summer holidays on the back of three good league wins and an AI club title.
Foolish to go by last year's form with Cavan. We have a different manager and a big change over in players from last year. A lot of experienced players are back on the panel this year, dropped by the previous manager. Some of the players that played that day against Ross aren't even on the panel now. We were conceding big scores last year against a lot of teams, which has been changed this year, our 2 defeats this year have only been by 2 pts.
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 03, 2013, 07:45:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 06:26:31 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 03, 2013, 05:52:58 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 03, 2013, 05:43:43 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 03, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
We'd have to bate Cavan and hope that Monaghan and Meath both lose.
Of course Cavan would have to bate us and hope........
Can't really see Monaghan losing but Meath and Fermanagh ???
A draw for Monaghan or Meath might have been enough for Roscommon if the scoring difference wasn't so poor.
Or if we hadn't drawn with Wicklow at home, that last minute goal could be a real killer. TBH i can't see us winning in Breffni park we have awful record there and we are still missing a number of key players though some of St Brigids lads may get a start on Sunday as Conor Daly,Donie Smith,Colin Compton will need a rest after Saturdays U21 Connacht final.
I thought they needed a rest after the semi-final too. Evans and seemingly all Connacht senior managers are being reckless in their use of the U21 players so I won't be surprised if all but Compton feature on Sunday. Cavan will be missing their own U21s if they beat Down tonight because they ring fence them for the U21s once the championship starts. We beat Cavan handily last year with a less-than stellar performance so I wouldn't be surprised by a win this year too.
Either way it'd be great to enter the extended Summer holidays on the back of three good league wins and an AI club title.
Foolish to go by last year's form with Cavan. We have a different manager and a big change over in players from last year. A lot of experienced players are back on the panel this year, dropped by the previous manager. Some of the players that played that day against Ross aren't even on the panel now. We were conceding big scores last year against a lot of teams, which has been changed this year, our 2 defeats this year have only been by 2 pts.
Oh, I think it's a nearly 50:50, and that's assuming we have most of our Brigid's players back. We are still nursing a few key injuries on top of everything else. I just don't buy into the idea that Cavan are a fearsome proposition for us. We're also significantly better than we were last year so the improvements Cavan have made are off-set to a degree.
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 08:03:19 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 03, 2013, 07:45:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 06:26:31 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 03, 2013, 05:52:58 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 03, 2013, 05:43:43 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 03, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
We'd have to bate Cavan and hope that Monaghan and Meath both lose.
Of course Cavan would have to bate us and hope........
Can't really see Monaghan losing but Meath and Fermanagh ???
A draw for Monaghan or Meath might have been enough for Roscommon if the scoring difference wasn't so poor.
Or if we hadn't drawn with Wicklow at home, that last minute goal could be a real killer. TBH i can't see us winning in Breffni park we have awful record there and we are still missing a number of key players though some of St Brigids lads may get a start on Sunday as Conor Daly,Donie Smith,Colin Compton will need a rest after Saturdays U21 Connacht final.
I thought they needed a rest after the semi-final too. Evans and seemingly all Connacht senior managers are being reckless in their use of the U21 players so I won't be surprised if all but Compton feature on Sunday. Cavan will be missing their own U21s if they beat Down tonight because they ring fence them for the U21s once the championship starts. We beat Cavan handily last year with a less-than stellar performance so I wouldn't be surprised by a win this year too.
Either way it'd be great to enter the extended Summer holidays on the back of three good league wins and an AI club title.
Foolish to go by last year's form with Cavan. We have a different manager and a big change over in players from last year. A lot of experienced players are back on the panel this year, dropped by the previous manager. Some of the players that played that day against Ross aren't even on the panel now. We were conceding big scores last year against a lot of teams, which has been changed this year, our 2 defeats this year have only been by 2 pts.
Oh, I think it's a nearly 50:50, and that's assuming we have most of our Brigid's players back. We are still nursing a few key injuries on top of everything else. I just don't buy into the idea that Cavan are a fearsome proposition for us. We're also significantly better than we were last year so the improvements Cavan have made are off-set to a degree.
Well I never said we were a fearsome proposition, just replying to the part where you said Ros beat Cavan with a less then steller performance last year,and that you wouldn't be surprised if that happened this year either.
We are not as bad as last year, a simple way of putting it.
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 03, 2013, 08:13:57 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 08:03:19 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 03, 2013, 07:45:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 06:26:31 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 03, 2013, 05:52:58 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 03, 2013, 05:43:43 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 03, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
We'd have to bate Cavan and hope that Monaghan and Meath both lose.
Of course Cavan would have to bate us and hope........
Can't really see Monaghan losing but Meath and Fermanagh ???
A draw for Monaghan or Meath might have been enough for Roscommon if the scoring difference wasn't so poor.
Or if we hadn't drawn with Wicklow at home, that last minute goal could be a real killer. TBH i can't see us winning in Breffni park we have awful record there and we are still missing a number of key players though some of St Brigids lads may get a start on Sunday as Conor Daly,Donie Smith,Colin Compton will need a rest after Saturdays U21 Connacht final.
I thought they needed a rest after the semi-final too. Evans and seemingly all Connacht senior managers are being reckless in their use of the U21 players so I won't be surprised if all but Compton feature on Sunday. Cavan will be missing their own U21s if they beat Down tonight because they ring fence them for the U21s once the championship starts. We beat Cavan handily last year with a less-than stellar performance so I wouldn't be surprised by a win this year too.
Either way it'd be great to enter the extended Summer holidays on the back of three good league wins and an AI club title.
Foolish to go by last year's form with Cavan. We have a different manager and a big change over in players from last year. A lot of experienced players are back on the panel this year, dropped by the previous manager. Some of the players that played that day against Ross aren't even on the panel now. We were conceding big scores last year against a lot of teams, which has been changed this year, our 2 defeats this year have only been by 2 pts.
Oh, I think it's a nearly 50:50, and that's assuming we have most of our Brigid's players back. We are still nursing a few key injuries on top of everything else. I just don't buy into the idea that Cavan are a fearsome proposition for us. We're also significantly better than we were last year so the improvements Cavan have made are off-set to a degree.
Well I never said we were a fearsome proposition, just replying to the part where you said Ros beat Cavan with a less then steller performance last year,and that you wouldn't be surprised if that happened this year either.
We are not as bad as last year, a simple way of putting it.
I never said you or any Cavan supporters were, in fact it's it was our own supporters I was talking about when it came to propagating that particular chestnut.
I didn't say we'd beat Cavan with a less-than stellar performance this year either.
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 08:23:55 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 03, 2013, 08:13:57 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 08:03:19 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 03, 2013, 07:45:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 06:26:31 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 03, 2013, 05:52:58 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 03, 2013, 05:43:43 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 03, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
We'd have to bate Cavan and hope that Monaghan and Meath both lose.
Of course Cavan would have to bate us and hope........
Can't really see Monaghan losing but Meath and Fermanagh ???
A draw for Monaghan or Meath might have been enough for Roscommon if the scoring difference wasn't so poor.
Or if we hadn't drawn with Wicklow at home, that last minute goal could be a real killer. TBH i can't see us winning in Breffni park we have awful record there and we are still missing a number of key players though some of St Brigids lads may get a start on Sunday as Conor Daly,Donie Smith,Colin Compton will need a rest after Saturdays U21 Connacht final.
I thought they needed a rest after the semi-final too. Evans and seemingly all Connacht senior managers are being reckless in their use of the U21 players so I won't be surprised if all but Compton feature on Sunday. Cavan will be missing their own U21s if they beat Down tonight because they ring fence them for the U21s once the championship starts. We beat Cavan handily last year with a less-than stellar performance so I wouldn't be surprised by a win this year too.
Either way it'd be great to enter the extended Summer holidays on the back of three good league wins and an AI club title.
Foolish to go by last year's form with Cavan. We have a different manager and a big change over in players from last year. A lot of experienced players are back on the panel this year, dropped by the previous manager. Some of the players that played that day against Ross aren't even on the panel now. We were conceding big scores last year against a lot of teams, which has been changed this year, our 2 defeats this year have only been by 2 pts.
Oh, I think it's a nearly 50:50, and that's assuming we have most of our Brigid's players back. We are still nursing a few key injuries on top of everything else. I just don't buy into the idea that Cavan are a fearsome proposition for us. We're also significantly better than we were last year so the improvements Cavan have made are off-set to a degree.
Well I never said we were a fearsome proposition, just replying to the part where you said Ros beat Cavan with a less then steller performance last year,and that you wouldn't be surprised if that happened this year either.
We are not as bad as last year, a simple way of putting it.
I never said you or any Cavan supporters were, in fact it's it was our own supporters I was talking about when it came to propagating that particular chestnut.
I didn't say we'd beat Cavan with a less-than stellar performance this year either.
No panic.
Tom is heading to Breffni on Sunday
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Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 08:03:19 PM
Oh, I think it's a nearly 50:50, and that's assuming we have most of our Brigid's players back
We only had 4 Brids on our panel up to this.
The others on this years County panel are totally untried at Inter Co level and remains to be seen if they are capable of stepping up.
Syf you now seem to have got it into your bandwagonhopping head that the Brigid's players are all the next Gerry O'Malleys or the like. :-[
Previously it was Cathal Shine who was the supersuperstar in your silliness. ::)
Have you now dropped him in favour of anyone at all from Brid's?
Maybe a bit of :-X might be in order from you for a while.
We're not without hope but with our scoring returns of late it's hard to make a case for us winning this one esp as Donie and Compton are unlikely to be playing after their- we hope winning -exertions on Saturday evening.
Quote from: Rossfan on April 03, 2013, 10:12:21 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 08:03:19 PM
Oh, I think it's a nearly 50:50, and that's assuming we have most of our Brigid's players back
We only had 4 Brids on our panel up to this.
The others on this years County panel are totally untried at Inter Co level and remains to be seen if they are capable of stepping up.
Syf you now seem to have got it into your bandwagonhopping head that the Brigid's players are all the next Gerry O'Malleys or the like. :-[
Previously it was Cathal Shine who was the supersuperstar in your silliness. ::)
Have you now dropped him in favour of anyone at all from Brid's?
Maybe a bit of :-X might be in order from you for a while.
We're not without hope but with our scoring returns of late it's hard to make a case for us winning this one esp as Donie and Compton are unlikely to be playing after their- we hope winning -exertions on Saturday evening.
Shine was Shining before broke his handeen.
The four established Brigids players are almost all at key areas for us - Mango in the middle has been missed hugely, Senan K is our best forward, Ian K is our best half-back. Domican is going to find it hard to jump right back into the team but he's been a cornerstone of the defense and is probably going to slot in come championship too. It's no exageration to say we can play a far more direct style of football with the Brigids players back And that's before you get to other Brigids lads we need to have a look at in competitive action and Sunday would be a very good opportunity to see what we've got.
What's your favourite Tom Cruise filum, lad?
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 08:03:19 PM
We're also significantly better than we were last year
That's debatable. Last year we finished with 8pts at moment we have 7pts. Our scoring difference last year was +9 to -5 now. If we lose on Sunday we'll have got significantly worse.
Quote from: ross4life on April 03, 2013, 10:30:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 08:03:19 PM
We're also significantly better than we were last year
That's debatable. Last year we finished with 8pts at moment we have 7pts. Our scoring difference last year was +9 to -5 now. If we lose on Sunday we'll have got significantly worse.
We've had a massive list of absentees, we've blooded some young players who have took to senior like ducks to water and we've shored up our defence considerably. The quality of the teams in D3 is also noticeably better this year too. I tried to give Des every chance but even by this stage last year there was clear disharmony in the camp whereas the players really seem to be playing for Evans.
Whatever happens on Sunday we can look to this year's championship with more optimism than last year.
Quote from: Rossfan on April 03, 2013, 10:12:21 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 08:03:19 PM
Oh, I think it's a nearly 50:50, and that's assuming we have most of our Brigid's players back
?
Maybe a bit of :-X might be in order from you for a while.
How's about the bit in bold be changed to "forever" ;D
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 10:22:03 PM
Shine was Shining before broke his handeen.
Why do Connacht people do this?
Quote from: Hardy on April 04, 2013, 11:04:58 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 10:22:03 PM
Shine was Shining before broke his handeen.
Why do Connacht people do this?
Same reason Meath people pronounce r in the French style.
Culture and history
Yes, but why?
In the Wesht, we are all just stage Irishmen in an 18th century play. The "een" is used as a term of endearment such as "let me give a bowleen of milk to my poor pisceen" or sarcasm "a little maneen came around today asking for my voteen..." Or indeed Colm O Rourkeen.
Quote from: Hardy on April 04, 2013, 11:28:58 AM
Yes, but why?
English doesn't really go for diminutives but many other languages do
Spanish has -ito, German has -chen, French has -ette
Irish is just like them innit
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 10:22:03 PM
Shine was Shining before broke his handeen.
You couldn't describe his big paws as handeens :D
As for shining - not really.
This lad might make a decent Inter Co player but the evidence to date has been inconclusive to say the least ( other than Syfeen "bigging" him up over the top. The last man he did that to was Des Newton and we know how that ended :-[)
I see he's now saying that Des' tenure had hit the rocks this time last year , yet last July Syfeen was blowing bull about the great tactical prowess and acumen of said Des after we somehow managed to beat an awful Armagh outfit which had begun it's downward spiral.
As for Sunday it sounds like Evans will be giving a run out to panellists not seen to date so we'll see how she goes.
Quote from: Rossfan on April 04, 2013, 12:56:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 03, 2013, 10:22:03 PM
Shine was Shining before broke his handeen.
You couldn't describe his big paws as handeens :D
As for shining - not really.
This lad might make a decent Inter Co player but the evidence to date has been inconclusive to say the least ( other than Syfeen "bigging" him up over the top. The last man he did that to was Des Newton and we know how that ended :-[)
I see he's now saying that Des' tenure had hit the rocks this time last year , yet last July Syfeen was blowing bull about the great tactical prowess and acumen of said Des after we somehow managed to beat an awful Armagh outfit which had begun it's downward spiral.
As for Sunday it sounds like Evans will be giving a run out to panellists not seen to date so we'll see how she goes.
Are you actually comparing Cathal Shine to Des Newton? What position was Des playing last year, goalkeeper? Corner forward?
No I'm comparing you to yourself :P
And still come to the conclusion that you're the silliest daftest poster from the West that ever appeared on this forum. :-*
Now take Rudi's advice like a good gasúinín
Quote from: Rossfan on April 04, 2013, 01:10:31 PM
No I'm comparing you to yourself :P
And still come to the conclusion that you're the silliest daftest poster from the West that ever appeared on this forum. :-*
Now take Rudi's advice like a good gasúinín
Why not from all of Ireland? Who am I up against in the AISFs?
I think we're going to win on Sunday. Lé cúnamh Dé. A thoroughly deserved promotion for a long suffering and much maligned county.
Quote from: Lucifer on April 02, 2013, 06:08:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 02, 2013, 11:43:46 AM
Probably not to be honest. O'Leary, Kissane and Canty is a strong HB line plus there's a few younger boys who are pretty good in there too.
He's brilliant by antrim standards but cork standards would be a good bit higher.
Loughrey would start, and I have no doubt that if he is given the chance he will prove that, and a lot of people will be surprised how good he actually is (maybe not in Ulster but beyond.) Clancy looks decent at half back for Cork, from the little I have seen of him.
Interesting tie this weekend from a Fermanagh
Loughrey has been named as a substitute for Cork for there game on Sunday.
Quote from: FermGael on April 04, 2013, 08:43:29 PM
Quote from: Lucifer on April 02, 2013, 06:08:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 02, 2013, 11:43:46 AM
Probably not to be honest. O'Leary, Kissane and Canty is a strong HB line plus there's a few younger boys who are pretty good in there too.
He's brilliant by antrim standards but cork standards would be a good bit higher.
Loughrey would start, and I have no doubt that if he is given the chance he will prove that, and a lot of people will be surprised how good he actually is (maybe not in Ulster but beyond.) Clancy looks decent at half back for Cork, from the little I have seen of him.
Interesting tie this weekend from a Fermanagh
Loughrey has been named as a substitute for Cork for there game on Sunday.
This is Division 3 thread lads.
Quote from: tommysmith on April 04, 2013, 09:05:08 PM
Quote from: FermGael on April 04, 2013, 08:43:29 PM
Quote from: Lucifer on April 02, 2013, 06:08:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 02, 2013, 11:43:46 AM
Probably not to be honest. O'Leary, Kissane and Canty is a strong HB line plus there's a few younger boys who are pretty good in there too.
He's brilliant by antrim standards but cork standards would be a good bit higher.
Loughrey would start, and I have no doubt that if he is given the chance he will prove that, and a lot of people will be surprised how good he actually is (maybe not in Ulster but beyond.) Clancy looks decent at half back for Cork, from the little I have seen of him.
Interesting tie this weekend from a Fermanagh
Loughrey has been named as a substitute for Cork for there game on Sunday.
This is Division 3 thread lads.
I hope that was a subtle dig at Antrim because it'd be terrible and awesome in equal measure.
To summarise, we have had ;
Cavan V Monaghan inbreds,
Cavan V Meath inbreds,
Syferus V All the other Rossies,
Sligo posters V Kevin Walsh and the Sligo management team.
This is a great thread Gents,If only the Antrim lads weren't in a state of depression,we could have had Hardstation posting more of his usual b**lox also.
That would have made it the greatest thread ever in the history of the internet.
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 04, 2013, 10:39:54 PM
To summarise, we have had ;
Cavan V Monaghan inbreds,
Cavan V Meath inbreds,
Syferus V All the other Rossies,
Sligo posters V Kevin Walsh and the Sligo management team.
This is a great thread Gents,If only the Antrim lads weren't in a state of depression,we could have had Hardstation posting more of his usual b**lox also.
That would have made it the greatest thread ever in the history of the internet.
A lazy assumption purely based on our love of banjo music.
I'm convinced Syferus is Paddy Joe Burke.
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Quote from: Jinxy on April 04, 2013, 10:56:54 PM
I'm convinced Syferus is Paddy Joe Burke.
(http://img.rasset.ie/00050309-180.jpg)
http://www.rte.ie/podcasts/2011/pc/pod-v....id0-2262480.mp3
Quote from: tommysmith on April 04, 2013, 09:05:08 PM
Quote from: FermGael on April 04, 2013, 08:43:29 PM
Loughrey has been named as a substitute for Cork for there game on Sunday.
This is Division 3 thread lads.
Relevant because when it came up earlier on the thread a few appeared very dismissive of his chances of making the cork championship side, presumably on the basis that he comes from Antrim, and seemingly forgetting that in the absence of a transfer market, it's logical that 'weaker' counties like Antrim and Monaghan can also have very good players ;)
Quote from: Syferus on April 04, 2013, 11:04:25 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 04, 2013, 10:56:54 PM
I'm convinced Syferus is Paddy Joe Burke.
(http://img.rasset.ie/00050309-180.jpg)
http://www.rte.ie/podcasts/2011/pc/pod-v....id0-2262480.mp3
he's from west roscommon, has seemingly close ties to bridgids, and is buck mad, but not in a harmful way. Its obvious enough, syferus is shane curran
Quote from: commonman on April 04, 2013, 11:44:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 04, 2013, 11:04:25 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 04, 2013, 10:56:54 PM
I'm convinced Syferus is Paddy Joe Burke.
(http://img.rasset.ie/00050309-180.jpg)
http://www.rte.ie/podcasts/2011/pc/pod-v....id0-2262480.mp3
he's from west roscommon, has seemingly close ties to bridgids, and is buck mad, but not in a harmful way. Its obvious enough, syferus is shane curran
Ah man, I'm tearin up here, I'd give you a hug but my big nose might get in the way
Quote from: AQMP on April 02, 2013, 12:30:01 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 02, 2013, 12:35:19 AM
I understand the chap is moving to Cork.
It's the other bit I don't understand.
As far as I know he only hooked up with the Mallow club recently. Highly unlikely to feature this year but could potentially make a Cork panel next year.
Confirmation, if it were needed, that I know feck all.
Quote from: AQMP on April 05, 2013, 09:25:25 AM
Quote from: AQMP on April 02, 2013, 12:30:01 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 02, 2013, 12:35:19 AM
I understand the chap is moving to Cork.
It's the other bit I don't understand.
As far as I know he only hooked up with the Mallow club recently. Highly unlikely to feature this year but could potentially make a Cork panel next year.
Confirmation, if it were needed, that I know feck all.
You probably would have been right if Cork weren't riddled by injuries.
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2013, 06:22:55 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 05, 2013, 09:25:25 AM
Quote from: AQMP on April 02, 2013, 12:30:01 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 02, 2013, 12:35:19 AM
I understand the chap is moving to Cork.
It's the other bit I don't understand.
As far as I know he only hooked up with the Mallow club recently. Highly unlikely to feature this year but could potentially make a Cork panel next year.
Confirmation, if it were needed, that I know feck all.
You probably would have been right if Cork weren't riddled by injuries.
The likes of Canty (who has rarely ever seemed the same since that day we let him run the length of the field at us and did his hamstring in) and Kissane don't have much tyre left on the threads. Emotionally they might stick with them but objectively the answer of who is better may be different.
Says it all about Division 3, that its on 48 pages, Division 1 is on 7, and Division 2 on 11.
Can't beat the craic of Division 3.
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 05, 2013, 08:34:42 PM
Says it all about Division 3, that its on 48 pages, Division 1 is on 7, and Division 2 on 11.
Can't beat the craic of Division 3.
I knew i was on to winner when i created this thread. Of course it helps when we have the company of Meath though i'm a bit surprised they didn't score one of those rugby goals yet.
Craic is mighty in Div 3 even the weather is good to enjoy the games & no need for any umbrellas :-X
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2013, 08:46:20 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 05, 2013, 08:34:42 PM
Says it all about Division 3, that its on 48 pages, Division 1 is on 7, and Division 2 on 11.
Can't beat the craic of Division 3.
I knew i was on to winner when i created this thread. Of course it helps when we have the company of Meath though i'm a bit surprised they didn't score one of those rugby goals yet.
Craic is mighty in Div 3 even the weather is good to enjoy the games & no need for any umbrellas :-X
They actually did score a rugby goal against Cavan.
Quote from: Syferus on April 05, 2013, 06:51:54 PM
. Emotionally they might stick with them but objectively the answer of who is better may be different.
You won't get indecipherable and untranslateable comments like that in Div 1 or 2 ;D ;D ;D :-[
No wonder we have 48 pages with Syfeen around to make loadeens of silly poshteens
How the blazes do the French pronounce 'R's anyway?
Quote from: Rossfan on April 05, 2013, 09:16:31 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 05, 2013, 06:51:54 PM
. Emotionally they might stick with them but objectively the answer of who is better may be different.
You won't get indecipherable and untranslateable comments like that in Div 1 or 2 ;D ;D ;D :-[
No wonder we have 48 pages with Syfeen around to make loadeens of silly poshteens
Plenty of insightful nuggets in them to teach you the proper ways of the Ros. My predict the score record in the supporters' club competitions speaks for itself. 8)
I'd imagine it's Ros 4-21 Herrins 0-2 ;D
I went for Ros 2-7 Herrins 0-12.
As for Breffni - Cavan 0-8 Ros 0-8
Exciting weekend ahead. Predictions for me...
Cavan beat Ros
Sligo beat Wicklow
Fermanagh beat Meath
Monaghan beat Antrim
Can antrim grow some and put it up to Monaghan, hope so!
Quote from: Rossfan on April 05, 2013, 10:00:49 PM
I'd imagine it's Ros 4-21 Herrins 0-2 ;D
I went for Ros 2-7 Herrins 0-12.
As for Breffni - Cavan 0-8 Ros 0-8
You want to steady on with such positive predictions, you might start liking the feeling ;)
Quote from: Itchy on April 05, 2013, 10:04:36 PM
Exciting weekend ahead. Predictions for me...
Cavan beat Ros
Sligo beat Wicklow
Fermanagh beat Meath
Monaghan beat Antrim
Can antrim grow some and put it up to Monaghan, hope so!
I doubt it Itchy, they're no Cavan like...
Quote from: Syferus on April 05, 2013, 06:51:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2013, 06:22:55 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 05, 2013, 09:25:25 AM
Quote from: AQMP on April 02, 2013, 12:30:01 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 02, 2013, 12:35:19 AM
I understand the chap is moving to Cork.
It's the other bit I don't understand.
As far as I know he only hooked up with the Mallow club recently. Highly unlikely to feature this year but could potentially make a Cork panel next year.
Confirmation, if it were needed, that I know feck all.
You probably would have been right if Cork weren't riddled by injuries.
The likes of Canty (who has rarely ever seemed the same since that day we let him run the length of the field at us and did his hamstring in) and Kissane don't have much tyre left on the threads. Emotionally they might stick with them but objectively the answer of who is better may be different.
That was a particularly cunning plan in fairness.
Quote from: Jinxy on April 05, 2013, 11:27:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 05, 2013, 06:51:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2013, 06:22:55 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 05, 2013, 09:25:25 AM
Quote from: AQMP on April 02, 2013, 12:30:01 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 02, 2013, 12:35:19 AM
I understand the chap is moving to Cork.
It's the other bit I don't understand.
As far as I know he only hooked up with the Mallow club recently. Highly unlikely to feature this year but could potentially make a Cork panel next year.
Confirmation, if it were needed, that I know feck all.
You probably would have been right if Cork weren't riddled by injuries.
The likes of Canty (who has rarely ever seemed the same since that day we let him run the length of the field at us and did his hamstring in) and Kissane don't have much tyre left on the threads. Emotionally they might stick with them but objectively the answer of who is better may be different.
That was a particularly cunning plan in fairness.
:D :D
Quote from: hardstation on April 05, 2013, 10:47:59 PM
Antrim have caused the odd shock over the years.
If we beat Monaghan, it'll probably be the biggest ever. It's not good at the minute.
I was being facetious there hardstation with my comment to Itchy. I've no doubt you could beat us on Sunday the way we're going at the minute i.e. inconsistent..
You'll have the comfort of knowing that the Cavan men are behind ya anyway, which is always helpful..
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on April 06, 2013, 12:03:08 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 05, 2013, 10:47:59 PM
Antrim have caused the odd shock over the years.
If we beat Monaghan, it'll probably be the biggest ever. It's not good at the minute.
I was being facetious there hardstation with my comment to Itchy. I've no doubt you could beat us on Sunday the way we're going at the minute i.e. inconsistent..
You'll have the comfort of knowing that the Cavan men are behind ya anyway, which is always helpful..
When and against who was Monaghan last home defeat in the league?
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on April 06, 2013, 12:03:08 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 05, 2013, 10:47:59 PM
Antrim have caused the odd shock over the years.
If we beat Monaghan, it'll probably be the biggest ever. It's not good at the minute.
I was being facetious there hardstation with my comment to Itchy. I've no doubt you could beat us on Sunday the way we're going at the minute i.e. inconsistent..
You'll have the comfort of knowing that the Cavan men are behind ya anyway, which is always helpful..
What about the hardy Ros bucks? Rossfan is planning to spend Saturday night in the Sacred Heart saying novenas for the umbrella haters.
Well done to Monaghan who beat Cavan yesterday I the ulster minor hurling final. Congratulations on finally beating Cavan in something this year. Take a collective bow Monaghan!
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 06, 2013, 12:15:17 AM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on April 06, 2013, 12:03:08 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 05, 2013, 10:47:59 PM
Antrim have caused the odd shock over the years.
If we beat Monaghan, it'll probably be the biggest ever. It's not good at the minute.
I was being facetious there hardstation with my comment to Itchy. I've no doubt you could beat us on Sunday the way we're going at the minute i.e. inconsistent..
You'll have the comfort of knowing that the Cavan men are behind ya anyway, which is always helpful..
When and against who was Monaghan last home defeat in the league?
Point taken but believe me, our lads have a propensity to self implode when you'd want and expect them not to.. I obviously hope that doesn't happen tomorrow and wish them the very best but the life of a Monaghan supporter can be rather roller coaster at times..
Quote from: Itchy on April 06, 2013, 09:18:49 AM
Well done to Monaghan who beat Cavan yesterday I the ulster minor hurling final. Congratulations on finally beating Cavan in something this year. Take a collective bow Monaghan!
Yawn... ::)
In addition: shouldn't your post be on the Hurling forum? :o
Indeed many congrats to Monaghan on their win yesterday, well deserved I believe.
I think it is just a matter of Monaghan turning up tomorrow to gain promotion as Antrims form has been so bad of late. However, I think Meath going up would be hard to stomach given how ordinary they are. I hope Fermanagh go down and get the result their year deserves. Can't believe Barry Owens is able to play given what he did to get his suspension though. Another example of pathetic refereeing.
Quote from: hardstation on April 05, 2013, 10:47:59 PM
Antrim have caused the odd shock over the years.
If we beat Monaghan, it'll probably be the biggest ever. It's not good at the minute.
This will be a strange game, Monaghan may want to put down a marker for Championship (If I were a manager that's what I'd do), or they may not want to show their hand and play a training type game. Antrim are coming into the game with terrible results and not looking to improve any day soon, the team for whatever reasons is not the best team in the county but the best one Dawsy has to commit with. The weather seems fine so the weather won't be a factor.
I personally think we'll get duffed, put up a decent fight but eventually get turned over, has the Monaghan team been named?
Fermanagh v Meath is definitely the most interesting of tomorrow's games. It's do or stagnate in Division 3 for both. Never thought Monaghan were a Division 3 team at the start of the year, nonsense over a fracas when we gave Kildare a good beating at home, consigned us the same level as Cavan. If we can't do it against Antrim, who've dipped big time, then we deserve to be where we are, and the exiciting prospect of another Classico against Cavan next year.
Quote from: babarino on April 06, 2013, 12:25:43 PM
Fermanagh v Meath is definitely the most interesting of tomorrow's games. It do or stagnate in Division 3 for both. Never thought Monaghan were a Division 3 team at the start of the year, nonsense over a fracas when we gave Kildare a good beating at home, consigned us the same level as Cavan. If we can't do it against Antrim, who've dipped big time, then we deserve to be where we are, and the exiciting prospect of another Classico against Cavan next year.
I think this year's division splits have been the truest ranking of county teams the league has produced in many years.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2013, 12:23:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 05, 2013, 10:47:59 PM
Antrim have caused the odd shock over the years.
If we beat Monaghan, it'll probably be the biggest ever. It's not good at the minute.
This will be a strange game, Monaghan may want to put down a marker for Championship (If I were a manager that's what I'd do), or they may not want to show their hand and play a training type game. Antrim are coming into the game with terrible results and not looking to improve any day soon, the team for whatever reasons is not the best team in the county but the best one Dawsy has to commit with. The weather seems fine so the weather won't be a factor.
I personally think we'll get duffed, put up a decent fight but eventually get turned over, has the Monaghan team been named?
Monaghan don't have the luxury to choose their game plan, if they had of beaten Roscommon last day out then yes, they would have, but they don't.. They will be going all out to win at home tomorrow, full stop. Promotion would be perceived as an achievement for MOR and the players, I don't think they will or should be looking too far past that.
As for the team line out (taken from Hoganstand):
Monaghan (Division Three V Antrim): Rory Beggan; Dessie Mone, Drew Wylie, Ronan McNally; Colin Walshe, Darren Hughes, Kieran Duffy; Owen Lennon, Neil McAdam; Gavin Doogan, Kieran Hughes, Owen Duffy; Conor McManus, Paul Finlay, Dermot Malone.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 06, 2013, 12:12:33 PM
Indeed many congrats to Monaghan on their win yesterday, well deserved I believe.
I think it is just a matter of Monaghan turning up tomorrow to gain promotion as Antrims form has been so bad of late. However, I think Meath going up would be hard to stomach given how ordinary they are. I hope Fermanagh go down and get the result their year deserves. Can't believe Barry Owens is able to play given what he did to get his suspension though. Another example of pathetic refereeing.
I didn't see the incident Myles so I can't comment exactly but; isn't this a function of the disciplinary system rather than the refereeing? Was he cited and dealt with post-event or was he sanctioned at the time?
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 06, 2013, 12:12:33 PM
Indeed many congrats to Monaghan on their win yesterday, well deserved I believe.
I think it is just a matter of Monaghan turning up tomorrow to gain promotion as Antrims form has been so bad of late. However, I think Meath going up would be hard to stomach given how ordinary they are. I hope Fermanagh go down and get the result their year deserves. Can't believe Barry Owens is able to play given what he did to get his suspension though. Another example of pathetic refereeing.
There aren't too many extraordinary teams in division 3 Myles.
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on April 06, 2013, 01:11:48 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 06, 2013, 12:12:33 PM
Indeed many congrats to Monaghan on their win yesterday, well deserved I believe.
I think it is just a matter of Monaghan turning up tomorrow to gain promotion as Antrims form has been so bad of late. However, I think Meath going up would be hard to stomach given how ordinary they are. I hope Fermanagh go down and get the result their year deserves. Can't believe Barry Owens is able to play given what he did to get his suspension though. Another example of pathetic refereeing.
I didn't see the incident Myles so I can't comment exactly but; isn't this a function of the disciplinary system rather than the refereeing? Was he cited and dealt with post-event or was he sanctioned at the time?
He got a straight red but clearly the ref didn't report what he done as you'd get 6 months in jail if you did it on the streets.
Quote from: Syferus on April 06, 2013, 12:33:37 PM
I think this year's division splits have been the truest ranking of county teams the league has produced in many years.
Kevin McStay made the same point pre-season and I had my doubts. Notably Down in Division 1, Longford Division 2 and Monaghan and Meath in Division 3, both of which a better than Louth who have survived Division 2. Louth will drop next year.
Quote from: babarino on April 06, 2013, 02:44:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 06, 2013, 12:33:37 PM
I think this year's division splits have been the truest ranking of county teams the league has produced in many years.
Kevin McStay made the same point pre-season and I had my doubts. Notably Down in Division 1, Longford Division 2 and Monaghan and Meath in Division 3, both of which a better than Louth who have survived Division 2. Louth will drop next year.
All those teams deserved to be where they were on league and championship form at the start of the year - Down made an AI final scarcely two and a half years ago and the D1 semis last year and you do write ups that illustrate similar form for all the other teams.
Where they end up at the other side of the league campaign doesn't change the point because the divisions aren't based on what a team does in the current campaign, trying to point out that as a flaw would be incredibly harsh.
Quote from: Itchy on April 06, 2013, 09:18:49 AM
Well done to Monaghan who beat Cavan yesterday I the ulster minor hurling final. Congratulations on finally beating Cavan in something this year. Take a collective bow Monaghan!
Looks like we're on a roll...
Ulster Minor League
Monaghan 3-10 v Cavan 1-07
Louth to drop, i doubt it, they gave Derry their hard game and likely could have got a draw if they hadnt a man sent off. They seemed to me to be fairly handy
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 06, 2013, 03:57:24 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 06, 2013, 09:18:49 AM
Well done to Monaghan who beat Cavan yesterday I the ulster minor hurling final. Congratulations on finally beating Cavan in something this year. Take a collective bow Monaghan!
Looks like we're on a roll...
Ulster Minor League
Monaghan 3-10 v Cavan 1-07
I feel sorry for antrim with this huge momentum ye are building up.
Quote from: Itchy on April 06, 2013, 08:20:52 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 06, 2013, 03:57:24 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 06, 2013, 09:18:49 AM
Well done to Monaghan who beat Cavan yesterday I the ulster minor hurling final. Congratulations on finally beating Cavan in something this year. Take a collective bow Monaghan!
Looks like we're on a roll...
Ulster Minor League
Monaghan 3-10 v Cavan 1-07
I feel sorry for antrim with this huge momentum ye are building up.
That's very honorable of you considering they beat you.. a true sportsman..
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on April 06, 2013, 08:38:44 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 06, 2013, 08:20:52 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 06, 2013, 03:57:24 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 06, 2013, 09:18:49 AM
Well done to Monaghan who beat Cavan yesterday I the ulster minor hurling final. Congratulations on finally beating Cavan in something this year. Take a collective bow Monaghan!
Looks like we're on a roll...
Ulster Minor League
Monaghan 3-10 v Cavan 1-07
I feel sorry for antrim with this huge momentum ye are building up.
That's very honorable of you considering they beat you.. a true sportsman..
Eh?
Sure the least we can do after that is get promoted to D2, eh Rossfan?
Syferus your optimism/delusion is to be...admired???
Quote from: Syferus on April 06, 2013, 03:32:06 PM
Quote from: babarino on April 06, 2013, 02:44:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 06, 2013, 12:33:37 PM
I think this year's division splits have been the truest ranking of county teams the league has produced in many years.
Kevin McStay made the same point pre-season and I had my doubts. Notably Down in Division 1, Longford Division 2 and Monaghan and Meath in Division 3, both of which a better than Louth who have survived Division 2. Louth will drop next year.
All those teams deserved to be where they were on league and championship form at the start of the year - Down made an AI final scarcely two and a half years ago and the D1 semis last year and you do write ups that illustrate similar form for all the other teams.
Where they end up at the other side of the league campaign doesn't change the point because the divisions aren't based on what a team does in the current campaign, trying to point out that as a flaw would be incredibly harsh.
Point taken but mine is that to highlight that this year's leagues as being more reflective of the true ranking than others is off the mark. Well before the league started this year it has been clear that Down were nowhere near the side that featured in the AI final, having lost some of their best players, through long term injury, Aussie Rules and retirement.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 06, 2013, 09:25:51 PM
Syferus your optimism/delusion is to be...admired???
It's not optimism if you're plasteredddd.
Quote from: Syferus on April 06, 2013, 03:32:06 PM
Quote from: babarino on April 06, 2013, 02:44:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 06, 2013, 12:33:37 PM
I think this year's division splits have been the truest ranking of county teams the league has produced in many years.
Kevin McStay made the same point pre-season and I had my doubts. Notably Down in Division 1, Longford Division 2 and Monaghan and Meath in Division 3, both of which a better than Louth who have survived Division 2. Louth will drop next year.
All those teams deserved to be where they were on league and championship form at the start of the year - Down made an AI final scarcely two and a half years ago and the D1 semis last year and you do write ups that illustrate similar form for all the other teams.
Where they end up at the other side of the league campaign doesn't change the point because the divisions aren't based on what a team does in the current campaign, trying to point out that as a flaw would be incredibly harsh.
You and Kevin seem to have the same opinion selection process.
Great win for st attractas today in the ai b final lets hope the wins continue tomorrow for the county team
Quote from: sligoman2 on April 06, 2013, 10:59:52 PM
Great win for st attractas today in the ai b final lets hope the wins continue tomorrow for the county team
Fine win for them well done. We face Sligo in the minor championship won't be much between us.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 06, 2013, 12:15:17 AM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on April 06, 2013, 12:03:08 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 05, 2013, 10:47:59 PM
Antrim have caused the odd shock over the years.
If we beat Monaghan, it'll probably be the biggest ever. It's not good at the minute.
I was being facetious there hardstation with my comment to Itchy. I've no doubt you could beat us on Sunday the way we're going at the minute i.e. inconsistent..
You'll have the comfort of knowing that the Cavan men are behind ya anyway, which is always helpful..
When and against who was Monaghan last home defeat in the league?
In 2011 we were beaten at home by Kerry and Dublin.
In 2012 we were unbeaten at home... but we only had two home games.
Any tips for parking in navan?
Any good local spots for a bit of lunch?
The pitch is walking distance from the town so parking is grand.
Quote from: sligoman2 on April 06, 2013, 10:59:52 PM
Great win for st attractas today in the ai b final lets hope the wins continue tomorrow for the county team
Big congrats to st attractas, big boost and gives me hope, Was watching the score updates on Sligo GAA, very grateful to McMunn for his updates, he also gave score updates on the minor league loss to Longford, attractas won easy and never let up which is heartening, 4-11 to 1-7, minors lost by 2 after levelling from 6 PTs down, the minors ran Roscommon close enough last week aswell, similar were 6pts down levelling with 10 mins to go eventually losing by 4, i haven't seen criostoir Davey played yet, by far the best underage player in Sligo at the min, must be injured and with attractas lads to come in let's hope they all gel together. Have to transfer the schools success to the minors... Good luck to the seniors today,,, wee bit nervous...
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 07, 2013, 12:25:11 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 06, 2013, 12:15:17 AM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on April 06, 2013, 12:03:08 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 05, 2013, 10:47:59 PM
Antrim have caused the odd shock over the years.
If we beat Monaghan, it'll probably be the biggest ever. It's not good at the minute.
I was being facetious there hardstation with my comment to Itchy. I've no doubt you could beat us on Sunday the way we're going at the minute i.e. inconsistent..
You'll have the comfort of knowing that the Cavan men are behind ya anyway, which is always helpful..
When and against who was Monaghan last home defeat in the league?
In 2011 we were beaten at home by Kerry and Dublin.
In 2012 we were unbeaten at home... but we only had two home games.
Kildare and Louth, the only two games we actually won in the division, hence the reason why we are where we are today. It seems strange that we only had 2 home games last year in division 2 after dropping from division 1 in 2011, yet we've had 4 home games this year (Meath, Sligo, Wicklow and Antrim) after dropping from division 2 in 2012. I'm not complaining as we probably wouldn't be pushing for promotion if we didn't have 4 home games this year!
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The reason we ended up with only 2 home games last year is tat we lost home advantage for the galway game after getting involved in a fracas during the kildare game. It will be interesting if one of the more high profile counties gets a similar punishment in the future. The way it normally works is that one year you have 3 home games one year and 4 home the following year.
Quote from: cluaineois on April 07, 2013, 10:56:26 AM
The reason we ended up with only 2 home games last year is tat we lost home advantage for the galway game after getting involved in a fracas during the kildare game. It will be interesting if one of the more high profile counties gets a similar punishment in the future. The way it normally works is that one year you have 3 home games one year and 4 home the following year.
Unless you're promoted or relegated - then its the luck of the draw as to whether you get 3 or 4 home games.
Quote from: cluaineois on April 07, 2013, 10:56:26 AM
The reason we ended up with only 2 home games last year is tat we lost home advantage for the galway game after getting involved in a fracas during the kildare game. It will be interesting if one of the more high profile counties gets a similar punishment in the future. The way it normally works is that one year you have 3 home games one year and 4 home the following year.
Ah yes, I remember that fracas now, a significant disadvantage in hindsight..
Fermanagh 15/8 with Paddy power to win. Great price. Antrim 9/2 to beat Monaghan, great price but highly unlikely.
anybody streaming monaghan game ?
All not well in the Antrim camp? Seen a few twitter comments that suggest so along with someone mentioning it to me during the week.
The lads seem to be playing well - a win in Caaaavan would make it three wins to end the league and with Brigids' success we'll be in a good place to start aiming for June.
Another Sligo second half collapse on the way. 3 points down
Quote from: Mano on April 07, 2013, 04:00:23 PM
Another Sligo second half collapse on the way. 3 points down
You're two up now!
Meath 2-10
Fermanagh 0-13
Meath 2-12 Fermanagh 0-14 - result.
So long Division 3. This feels like getting back on the motorway after taking a wrong turn into the Cavan ghetto and finding yourself putting your money in your sock and making sure you look as if you know where you're going.
The rest of the tour was fine and we met some grand people, but we'll be delighted to be in a separate thread to some of the spiteful Cavanites here who seemed to take more interest in our fortunes than their own and would rather see us lose than win themselves. It's just beautiful to know how much our promotion will infuriate them.
Well we won by 4 great show by niall murphy when he came in. We stay up but we have a lot of work to do.
When will kelly be back?
All in all a good weekend for sligo football. Take a deep breath Mano
Quote from: Hardy on April 07, 2013, 04:36:31 PM
Meath 2-12 Fermanagh 0-14 - result.
So long Division 3. This feels like getting back on the motorway after taking a wrong turn into the Cavan ghetto and finding yourself putting your money in your sock and making sure you look as if you know where you're going.
The rest of the tour was fine and we met some grand people, but we'll be delighted to be in a separate thread to some of the spiteful Cavanites here who seemed to take more interest in our fortunes than their own and would rather see us lose than win themselves. It's just beautiful to know how much our promotion will infuriate them.
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8) ;D
Aye - fair play to Mick O'Dowd. It took him only three months to banish the ghost of Banty and undo what the Monahan spoofer did to us.
Quote from: sligoman2 on April 07, 2013, 04:37:00 PM
Well we won by 4 great show by niall murphy when he came in. We stay up but we have a lot of work to do.
When will kelly be back?
All in all a good weekend for sligo football. Take a deep breath Mano
In fairness to mano, the context of that he wasnt far off, we played against a stiff breeze and were level at HT only to come out in 1st gear the mind of Sligo footballer knows no bounds to arrogance, the wind will win for us type shite, then went 3 pts down and it took the introduction of murphy (who walsh has done his best to destroy his confidence for 2 yrs) taylor and johnny kelly to give the lads like ross, marren a hand to get us over the line...honest to fck walsh is fcking idioit of a manager fck off back to galway you useless useless manager,, some of his selections today defy belief but i will not utter in public, well done the players that gave 100% and thank you for waking eventually today...on to london and CSFC that no one in Sligo is looking forward, we are there for the taking this yr by london sadly...please dont rush kelly back and destroy whats left of his career...## massiverelief today
Quote from: AQMP on April 07, 2013, 04:23:16 PM
Quote from: Mano on April 07, 2013, 04:00:23 PM
Another Sligo second half collapse on the way. 3 points down
You're two up now!
Spoke too soon. Good comeback in the end
Quote from: Hardy on April 07, 2013, 04:36:31 PM
Meath 2-12 Fermanagh 0-14 - result.
So long Division 3. This feels like getting back on the motorway after taking a wrong turn into the Cavan ghetto and finding yourself putting your money in your sock and making sure you look as if you know where you're going.
The rest of the tour was fine and we met some grand people, but we'll be delighted to be in a separate thread to some of the spiteful Cavanites here who seemed to take more interest in our fortunes than their own and would rather see us lose than win themselves. It's just beautiful to know how much our promotion will infuriate them.
LOL Hardy. Feelings similar and glad to be on the up. We can look forward to a wee final too and noone in Monaghan will be in any doubt that Meath are in better shape this side of the league.
So we save our best performance for the last game. FT Cavan 1-7 Roscommon 2-14 Donie Smith scored 0-6 it's shows how much we was missed in ET last night and two well taken goals by David O'Gara. If we had beaten Wicklow at home like we should have we would be on 10 points now i guess a decent league campaign without so many players but christ we need to get out of the division next year.
Well done to our neighbours Sligo. Antrim,Wicklow were the two worst and deserve to play Div 4 next year. I feel sorry for Fermanagh the injuries hit them hard it seems todays game was turned on missed penalty.
Quote from: Hardy on April 07, 2013, 04:36:31 PM
Meath 2-12 Fermanagh 0-14 - result.
So long Division 3. This feels like getting back on the motorway after taking a wrong turn into the Cavan ghetto and finding yourself putting your money in your sock and making sure you look as if you know where you're going.
The rest of the tour was fine and we met some grand people, but we'll be delighted to be in a separate thread to some of the spiteful Cavanites here who seemed to take more interest in our fortunes than their own and would rather see us lose than win themselves. It's just beautiful to know how much our promotion will infuriate them.
Au revoir more like. Enjoy.
Hello old friends - only Tipp from last year's D3 refugees haven't returned.
Come to daddy, lads.
Next yrs line up, we will definitly have new manager, new start, and hopefully 4 home games...
Longford
Wexford
Sligo
Roscommon
Fermanagh
Cavan
Limerick
Offaly
Quote from: Hardy on April 07, 2013, 04:43:56 PM
Aye - fair play to Mick O'Dowd. It took him only three months to banish the ghost of Banty and undo what the Monahan spoofer did to us.
Is it too much to expect a farewell guard of honour from the Cavan lads?
Quote from: Jinxy on April 07, 2013, 04:55:45 PM
Quote from: Hardy on April 07, 2013, 04:43:56 PM
Aye - fair play to Mick O'Dowd. It took him only three months to banish the ghost of Banty and undo what the Monahan spoofer did to us.
Is it too much to expect a farewell guard of honour from the Cavan lads?
Whats with the obsession with Cavan?
;D ;D
Quote from: Jinxy on April 07, 2013, 04:55:45 PM
Quote from: Hardy on April 07, 2013, 04:43:56 PM
Aye - fair play to Mick O'Dowd. It took him only three months to banish the ghost of Banty and undo what the Monahan spoofer did to us.
Is it too much to expect a farewell guard of honour from the Cavan lads?
Ye might need to up grade the shed in Navan for the Division 2 teams, Mister Fay.
At least the riff-raff are gone from our fine division.
Quote from: tommysmith on April 07, 2013, 04:59:42 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 07, 2013, 04:55:45 PM
Quote from: Hardy on April 07, 2013, 04:43:56 PM
Aye - fair play to Mick O'Dowd. It took him only three months to banish the ghost of Banty and undo what the Monahan spoofer did to us.
Is it too much to expect a farewell guard of honour from the Cavan lads?
Whats with the obsession with Cavan?
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 07, 2013, 05:01:00 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 07, 2013, 04:55:45 PM
Quote from: Hardy on April 07, 2013, 04:43:56 PM
Aye - fair play to Mick O'Dowd. It took him only three months to banish the ghost of Banty and undo what the Monahan spoofer did to us.
Is it too much to expect a farewell guard of honour from the Cavan lads?
Ye might need to up grade the shed in Navan for the Division 2 teams, Mister Fay.
Delicious!
Anyway - I'm off to chat with the Div 2 lads.
We are guaranteed 4 home games next year are we not?
If you are not promoted or relegated amd you played 4 away games i think you are guaranteed 4 home games.
We got 5 out of 6 pts at home and 0 away this year
That was pathetic from Cavan. Jesus i couldn't get over the amount of basic errors. If a ACFL Division 3 Reserve team made that amount in a game,you would be lambasting them.
The fact that we were missing probably 6/7/8 championship starters is irrelevant as the Rossie were something similar.
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Good luck & thanks!
;D
I don't fancy yours, Jinxy.
Quote from: sligoman2 on April 07, 2013, 05:07:50 PM
We are guaranteed 4 home games next year are we not?
If you are not promoted or relegated amd you played 4 away games i think you are guaranteed 4 home games.
We got 5 out of 6 pts at home and 0 away this year
Not sure what the protocol is for the 4 home games but our CB should fight tooth and nail for it as its a massive advantage, so relieved its unbelivable today,
Is that a before and after picture of a woman who is a big Tayto eater?
Think we have a similar situation to ye with 'potential' home games next year. Personally I'd have home games to Wex, Cavan, Limerick and Fermanagh and take a knee and make the lovely drives to Pearse Park and Tullamore to play Longford and Offaly.
Quote from: Jinxy on April 07, 2013, 05:10:52 PM
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Good luck & thanks!
Is that you in the middle?
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2013, 05:08:59 PM
That was pathetic from Cavan. Jesus i couldn't get over the amount of basic errors. If a ACFL Division 3 Reserve team made that amount in a game,you would be lambasting them.
The fact that we were missing probably 6/7/8 championship starters is irrelevant as the Rossie were something similar.
Absolute dung. I'd hoped we'd seen the last of that type of performance. Very clear that many of the lads who started today are not up to championship standard. Puts a real downer on what was decent league up till then.
Quote from: Itchy on April 07, 2013, 05:21:09 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2013, 05:08:59 PM
That was pathetic from Cavan. Jesus i couldn't get over the amount of basic errors. If a ACFL Division 3 Reserve team made that amount in a game,you would be lambasting them.
The fact that we were missing probably 6/7/8 championship starters is irrelevant as the Rossie were something similar.
Absolute dung. I'd hoped we'd seen the last of that type of performance. Very clear that many of the lads who started today are not up to championship standard. Puts a real downer on what was decent league up till then.
A fair few lads played themselves out of championship places i reckon.
Damien Reily
Alan Clarke
Jason McLoughlin
Killian Clarke
David Givney
Mossy Corr
Jack Brady
will definetly start against Armagh.
Thank God! Despite all the bungling we have survived. Fierce credit to the lads who stood tall when it mattered most for Sligo. Didn't make the game but I wasn't surprised at the names I heard when it came to the crunch (or the names I didn't hear).
Would go along with the sentiments of the Sligo posters on here so far but will have to give special mention to one player Sligonian omitted - Keelan Cawley. Seemed from the commentary to have had a fantastic game and fair play to him for sticking at it the way he was treated for a long time. Obviously delighted for Murphy as well. I was raging when I heard Sweeney was starting ahead of him but perhaps if Murf got the start he wouldn't have been on the field at the crucial time to knock over those scores. I'd say it was more luck that judgement by Walsh that it worked out but it doesn't really matter this evening. No apologies for my unashamed Coolera bias today!!!!
Congrats to St Attractas also. Great win to add to the successful football heritage of that school and it's predecessor.
In fairness, Walsh deserves a lot of credit for keeping that Sligo team up.
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I'm delighted, great performance all round (except Joe!). This was a really important game in the context of getting the show back on the road and not stagnating as young team with great potential in a division where you'd only pick up bad habits. You only get better by playing better opponents. Fermanagh put up a good show today, they'll be a very good team if they keep up the work they've obviously been putting in the last couple of years. We'll see Monaghan in a couple of weeks I suppose. Slán libh to the rest of ye.
Quote from: Jinxy on April 07, 2013, 05:38:57 PM
In fairness, Walsh deserves a lot of credit for keeping that Sligo team up.
wum
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 07, 2013, 05:36:05 PM
Thank God! Despite all the bungling we have survived. Fierce credit to the lads who stood tall when it mattered most for Sligo. Didn't make the game but I wasn't surprised at the names I heard when it came to the crunch (or the names I didn't hear).
Would go along with the sentiments of the Sligo posters on here so far but will have to give special mention to one player Sligonian omitted - Keelan Cawley. Seemed from the commentary to have had a fantastic game and fair play to him for sticking at it the way he was treated for a long time. Obviously delighted for Murphy as well. I was raging when I heard Sweeney was starting ahead of him but perhaps if Murf got the start he wouldn't have been on the field at the crucial time to knock over those scores. I'd say it was more luck that judgement by Walsh that it worked out but it doesn't really matter this evening. No apologies for my unashamed Coolera bias today!!!!
Congrats to St Attractas also. Great win to add to the successful football heritage of that school and it's predecessor.
Ya omitted by mistake, fair play to him, you know what I think of him so no surprises for me or you today. We're lucky him and murph stick at it in the face of walshes stupidity.
NFL Division 3 2014
Wexford
Longford
Fermanagh
Roscommon
Cavan
Sligo
Limerick
Offaly.
Hopefully we have Wexford and Limerick at home.
Well done to Meath, who have turned around a dodgy start to the League. The Final v Monaghan will be interesting after the result of their last meeting! Well done also to our neighbours Sligo.
Quote from: Itchy on April 07, 2013, 05:21:09 PM
Absolute dung. I'd hoped we'd seen the last of that type of performance. Very clear that many of the lads who started today are not up to championship standard. Puts a real downer on what was decent league up till then.
Boo hoo Breifne :(
All slagging aside well done to Monaghan and meath. Its tough on fermanagh but that's the way it goes.
Quote from: Itchy on April 07, 2013, 07:26:35 PM
All slagging aside well done to Monaghan and meath. Its tough on fermanagh but that's the way it goes.
Fair dues Itchy. Notice we, not the royalists, got the capital 'M'. Meanwhile they're off stirring it with the Louth boys on the Division 2 thread.
And you're right it was tough for Fermanagh. Canavan is doing good work there. They've got some quality players, but a small pick for the squad strength. If you overcome Armagh in the Championship, they'll be stiff opposition.
Farewell Sligo, next year just won't be the same without ye!
Barbarino - we won the battles but lost the war. In the league, everyone ends up where they deserve to. We can take heart from giving the two best teams good beatings. Unfortunately our form has dropped since then.
Quote from: Itchy on April 07, 2013, 08:32:04 PM
Barbarino - we won the battles but lost the war. In the league, everyone ends up where they deserve to. We can take heart from giving the two best teams good beatings. Unfortunately our form has dropped since then.
Indeed Itchy. like ourselves, consistency is a problem for Cavan and the irony isn't lost that you beat the two teams to be promoted.
Well done to our lads today. I'm delighted they got promoted. Apart from Kieran Hughes getting sent off for a second yellow (which will most likely rule him out of the final) it was a good performance.
Meath again in a final, brings back a few memories from 2005... ???
Meath have done very well after a terrible start, Fermanagh missed a pen today, probably sick after being top of Division 3 for a long time. They have made good progress under Canavan. Very unlucky with Injuries during the league aswell.
Should be a interesting League final with Meath - Monaghan...
I'm going to miss thus thrrad :(
Quote from: Itchy on April 07, 2013, 09:43:56 PM
I'm going to miss thus thrrad :(
Don't worry Itchy, you're not goin anywhere. You just need to change the thread title to 2014. :P
Slán libh.
It's great to get out of Division 3. A few years down here would set you back a fair bit. It's a middling standard where bad habits can creep in.
I'd have liked to see Fermanagh promoted too. We had a good old tussle with them in Brewster Park and they can consider themselves unfortunate. However, well done Meath; we're becoming inseparable.
I figured our Cavan result was a bit of a freak. Their supporters' crowing and cheering at the end of that game seems silly and pathetic in hindsight, though that was their years' highlight I suppose. Well done to them on that result in February by the way.
Roscommon is a team to keep an eye on. They beat us minus their St. Brigid's and U-21 contingents I understand so they'll be dangerous at full strength.
Antrim look poor, though I hope today wasn't some sort of ruse with an eye on ambushing us in the championship.
Sligo and Wicklow....... emmmm....... good luck to yous.
Quote from: charlie linkbox on April 07, 2013, 09:56:19 PM
Slán libh.
It's great to get out of Division 3. A few years down here would set you back a fair bit. It's a middling standard where bad habits can creep in.
I'd have liked to see Fermanagh promoted too. We had a good old tussle with them in Brewster Park and they can consider themselves unfortunate. However, well done Meath; we're becoming inseparable.
I figured our Cavan result was a bit of a freak. Their supporters' crowing and cheering at the end of that game seems silly and pathetic in hindsight, though that was their years' highlight I suppose. Well done to them on that result in February by the way.
Roscommon is a team to keep an eye on. They beat us minus their St. Brigid's and U-21 contingents I understand so they'll be dangerous at full strength.
Antrim look poor, though I hope today wasn't some sort of ruse with an eye on ambushing us in the championship.
Sligo and Wicklow....... emmmm....... good luck to yous.
Emmm, I doubt it. After a decent enough start the wheels have well and truly come off. We're as poor as we've been in a while. We should be 100/1 for the Championship game.
The Ros-Cavan rivalry has a lot of slack to take up in 2014. Never really liked the Caaavan man on Shannonside anyways
Quote from: Syferus on April 07, 2013, 10:06:26 PM
The Ros-Cavan rivalry has a lot of slack to take up in 2014. Never really liked the Caaavan man on Shannonside anyways
This coming from the County the produced Joe Finnegan, Willie Hegarty? We won't fall out over it though, rarely if ever listen to Northern sound/ Shannonside
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on April 07, 2013, 09:27:03 PMApart from Kieran Hughes getting sent off for a second yellow (which will most likely rule him out of the final) it was a good performance.
Word is that he's only out for 2 weeks, so he's back for the final.
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 07, 2013, 10:14:57 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 07, 2013, 10:06:26 PM
The Ros-Cavan rivalry has a lot of slack to take up in 2014. Never really liked the Caaavan man on Shannonside anyways
This coming from the County the produced Joe Finnegan, Willie Hegarty? We won't fall out over it though, rarely if ever listen to Northern sound/ Shannonside
hold on now a minute, joe finnegan isn't ours - hes a mayoman
Quote from: commonman on April 07, 2013, 10:24:21 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 07, 2013, 10:14:57 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 07, 2013, 10:06:26 PM
The Ros-Cavan rivalry has a lot of slack to take up in 2014. Never really liked the Caaavan man on Shannonside anyways
This coming from the County the produced Joe Finnegan, Willie Hegarty? We won't fall out over it though, rarely if ever listen to Northern sound/ Shannonside
hold on now a minute, joe finnegan isn't ours - hes a mayoman
Ah my bad, he has the whest accent thought it was Ross.
The sad part is I actually enjoy listening to the Caaavan man, usually on the way home after one of our customary Saturday victories. Haven't a clue what goes on at a feile ceol but it sure sounds kinky, lots of talk of blowing flutes and the like.
Good win for Monaghan today against a poor Antrim team. We manage to get out of a division yet again but thankfully at the right end this time. Monaghan, like in most other games, played well in patches and we do seem to have developed a knack of getting goals at home. Pity we are away in the championship. Kieran Hughes and Chris McGuinness did most of the damage in the first half to set up the win but it did take until the third goal before we could relax because Antrim had a strong wind. Kieran Hughes got a very soft second yellow but he was a bit silly getting involved with any player while on a yellow and the game almost over. May miss the final unless it is just a 2 week thing (which is another stupid rule if true). Meath will be a different outfit from the team that visited Clones in game 1. Could be a good final.
Nice to top the table, the draw was kind to us with 4 home games and an easy last game to a broken Antrim team. Unlike the some of the Meath fans who came in from hiding in the long grass, we won't be dancing around in celebration. Not that this promotion was expected but we are not that much better than a Div 3 standard team. Keep our seat warm just in case.
To be honest, I'll miss the Rossies a biteen.
Quote from: AQMP on April 07, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
Farewell Sligo, next year just won't be the same without ye!
twas nice while it lasted, hopefully see ye back up here very soon,
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on April 08, 2013, 09:06:28 AM
Quote from: AQMP on April 07, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
Farewell Sligo, next year just won't be the same without ye!
twas nice while it lasted, hopefully see ye back up here very soon,
Unlucky NFL season. We'll back
Well we gave Cyaavan a good batin' yesterday.
Only for the 75 yard fluke and the push in the back goals we and not them Meath gang would be going up to Div 2.
Seeing as how we are beating Ulster teams left right and centre i wonder could we move Provinces for the Championship? ;D
We'd obviously be winning every second one up there as Connacht is far too strong and competitive for us at the moment.
Good to see us coming into form at the right time of the year as Evans is gettting things more organised and fitness levels are raised to the level of other Counties.
Ten weeks to prepare for the Championship big one against Herrins/Rhubarbs.
We'll be ready. ;)
Quote from: Rossfan on April 08, 2013, 04:56:06 PM
Well we gave Cyaavan a good batin' yesterday.
Only for the 75 yard fluke and the push in the back goals we and not them Meath gang would be going up to Div 2.
Seeing as how we are beating Ulster teams left right and centre i wonder could we move Provinces for the Championship? ;D
We'd obviously be winning every second one up there as Connacht is far too strong and competitive for us at the moment.
Good to see us coming into form at the right time of the year as Evans is gettting things more organised and fitness levels are raised to the level of other Counties.
Ten weeks to prepare for the Championship big one against Herrins/Rhubarbs.We'll be ready. ;)
Ten weeks, the luck of being in Connacht. Roscommon could travel Oz for 6 weeks, and still be in great Shape for the Championship opener. :)
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 08, 2013, 05:07:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 08, 2013, 04:56:06 PM
Well we gave Cyaavan a good batin' yesterday.
Only for the 75 yard fluke and the push in the back goals we and not them Meath gang would be going up to Div 2.
Seeing as how we are beating Ulster teams left right and centre i wonder could we move Provinces for the Championship? ;D
We'd obviously be winning every second one up there as Connacht is far too strong and competitive for us at the moment.
Good to see us coming into form at the right time of the year as Evans is gettting things more organised and fitness levels are raised to the level of other Counties.
Ten weeks to prepare for the Championship big one against Herrins/Rhubarbs.We'll be ready. ;)
Ten weeks, the luck of being in Connacht. Roscommon could travel Oz for 6 weeks, and still be in great Shape for the Championship opener. :)
We can barely afford to pay our expenses never mind go to bloody Australia :-\
We'd be far better having a first round game in late May against someone handy like Cavan or Armagh :D
A shout-out to our departing friends:
Now that it's raining more than ever
Know that we'll still have each other
You can stand under my umbrella
You can stand under my umbrella
(Ella ella, ay ay ay)
Under my umbrella
(Ella ella, ay ay ay)
Under my umbrella
(Ella ella, ay ay ay)
Under my umbrella
(Ella ella, ay ay ay ay, ay ay)
Quote from: Rossfan on April 08, 2013, 05:26:02 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 08, 2013, 05:07:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 08, 2013, 04:56:06 PM
Well we gave Cyaavan a good batin' yesterday.
Only for the 75 yard fluke and the push in the back goals we and not them Meath gang would be going up to Div 2.
Seeing as how we are beating Ulster teams left right and centre i wonder could we move Provinces for the Championship? ;D
We'd obviously be winning every second one up there as Connacht is far too strong and competitive for us at the moment.
Good to see us coming into form at the right time of the year as Evans is gettting things more organised and fitness levels are raised to the level of other Counties.
Ten weeks to prepare for the Championship big one against Herrins/Rhubarbs.We'll be ready. ;)
Ten weeks, the luck of being in Connacht. Roscommon could travel Oz for 6 weeks, and still be in great Shape for the Championship opener. :)
We can barely afford to pay our expenses never mind go to bloody Australia :-\
We'd be far better having a first round game in late May against someone handy like Cavan or Armagh :D
We could barely afford to pay for the weekend trip to Donegal last year. I'm not sure is the long wait a good thing or bad. We played Galway in the middle of May & were as flat as pancake. Now a two month wait for away trip against the overpowering Connacht favourites. If anything it will give some of the Brigids lads a break and hopefully by June Donal ward,Cathal Shine,Donal Shine etc will be fully fit.
What can we take out of yesterdays win? it's the 2nd year in a row we have scored 20pts against them clearly they were missing a number of starters though since the Meath game we have defended fairly well which is encouraging. U21s of this year and last have added depth to our panel & when we have every player available it's about finding the right balance.
I think it shows a three-man midfield is the way forward for us. I'd really like to see Finn, mango and Cathal Shine operating around the middle third at one time to see if it helps solidify us there. If it's Mayo we'll meet it's almost essential because they have some serious bullocks in the middle.
Michael Finneran must wish he played against Cavan every week. He is outstanding every feckin time we play the Rossies.
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 08, 2013, 07:44:44 PM
Michael Finneran must wish he played against Cavan every week. He is outstanding every feckin time we play the Rossies.
Made mince meat of Monaghan two weeks ago as well. Probably our best player thia year along with Donie Smith. Always puts in a hell of an effort but he's a fine weather animal who's a lot better under dry ground.
Quote from: Syferus on April 08, 2013, 07:52:42 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 08, 2013, 07:44:44 PM
Michael Finneran must wish he played against Cavan every week. He is outstanding every feckin time we play the Rossies.
Made mince meat of Monaghan two weeks ago as well. Probably our best player thia year along with Donie Smith. Always puts in a hell of an effort but he's a fine weather animal who's a lot better under dry ground.
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Quote from: Rossfan on April 08, 2013, 09:18:16 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 08, 2013, 07:52:42 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 08, 2013, 07:44:44 PM
Michael Finneran must wish he played against Cavan every week. He is outstanding every feckin time we play the Rossies.
Made mince meat of Monaghan two weeks ago as well. Probably our best player thia year along with Donie Smith. Always puts in a hell of an effort but he's a fine weather animal who's a lot better under dry ground.
????????????????????????????????????? :o
He's unmarkable down there.
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 08, 2013, 07:44:44 PM
Michael Finneran must wish he played against Cavan every week. He is outstanding every feckin time we play the Rossies.
Big Mike has been arguably our best player for the last three years. When he went off injured v Galway last May we had no one to fill the void. Hopefully a few of our underage midfielders can make the set up to senior level.
Quote from: ross4life on April 08, 2013, 10:15:56 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 08, 2013, 07:44:44 PM
Michael Finneran must wish he played against Cavan every week. He is outstanding every feckin time we play the Rossies.
Big Mike has been arguably our best player for the last three years. When he went off injured v Galway last May we had no one to fill the void. Hopefully a few of our underage midfielders can make the set up to senior level.
Develop another Seamus O Neill type, man mountain.
How long have Cavan been in Division 3?
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 08, 2013, 10:28:57 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 08, 2013, 10:15:56 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 08, 2013, 07:44:44 PM
Michael Finneran must wish he played against Cavan every week. He is outstanding every feckin time we play the Rossies.
Big Mike has been arguably our best player for the last three years. When he went off injured v Galway last May we had no one to fill the void. Hopefully a few of our underage midfielders can make the set up to senior level.
Develop another Seamus O Neill type, man mountain.
Ahhh, hush about young Seamie. We could have, should have, got so much more from him.
No one will forget that day in the rain in Tuam in 2001, though. Even the eventual AI champions couldn't live with him.
Quote from: Syferus on April 08, 2013, 10:34:50 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 08, 2013, 10:28:57 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 08, 2013, 10:15:56 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 08, 2013, 07:44:44 PM
Michael Finneran must wish he played against Cavan every week. He is outstanding every feckin time we play the Rossies.
Big Mike has been arguably our best player for the last three years. When he went off injured v Galway last May we had no one to fill the void. Hopefully a few of our underage midfielders can make the set up to senior level.
Develop another Seamus O Neill type, man mountain.
Ahhh, hush about young Seamie. We could have, should have, got so much more from him.
No one will forget that day in the rain in Tuam in 2001, though. Even the eventual AI champions couldn't live with him.
Always reminded me of Stephen King, never fut enough to play the whole match but outstanding for 15 or 20 minutes
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Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 08, 2013, 07:44:44 PM
Michael Finneran must wish he played against Cavan every week. He is outstanding every feckin time we play the Rossies.
Big Mike has been arguably our best player for the last three years. When he went off injured v Galway last May we had no one to fill the void. Hopefully a few of our underage midfielders can make the set up to senior level.
Develop another Seamus O Neill type, man mountain.
Ahhh, hush about young Seamie. We could have, should have, got so much more from him.
No one will forget that day in the rain in Tuam in 2001, though. Even the eventual AI champions couldn't live with him.
Yeah, he seemed to just drift off the scene, when he had a few more years left.
What happens now, do we have to play Meath again? What's the point of that?
Can't they just accept that we have topped the table?
Promotion is the prize which we share.
Though our share does shine a bit brighter than theirs, I'm willing to call it quits.
Quote from: Main Street on April 08, 2013, 11:33:17 PM
What happens now, do we have to play Meath again? What's the point of that?
Can't they just accept that we have topped the table?
Promotion is the prize which we share.
Though our share does shine a bit brighter than theirs, I'm willing to call it quits.
Isn't much point of division two,three or four final, promotion is the only prize. Semi finals for group of eight in Division one doesn't make much sense either.
Quote from: Main Street on April 08, 2013, 11:33:17 PM
What happens now, do we have to play Meath again? What's the point of that?
Can't they just accept that we have topped the table?
Promotion is the prize which we share.
Though our share does shine a bit brighter than theirs, I'm willing to call it quits.
It's pointless. It's like the year we topped Division 2 but lost the final to Cork.
On the other hand, some silverware would be nice - and another competitive game before the Championship is no harm.
Yeah its always struck me as odd to have league finals. Even more odd to have league semi finals.
Still its the closest to championship football we will get in April and gives our younger lads a run out in Croker. Mick has started to find the semblance of a team now and some of the younger lads are starting to look more like they belong in a county jersey.
We still don't know how we will fare against the likes of Kildare, Laois or Dublin. It might be too much expect a provincial final in Micks first year with such a young team but I remain somewhat optimistic about the future of the team.
Still need to sort out the county board, stadium and financial scenario. Plenty of unfinished work that if left untouched will pull us back into the mire.
League finals (and semi finals in an 8 team group!) = revenue to pay expenses and benefits demanded by GPA for county players. It's all about the money.
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 10, 2013, 11:04:59 PM
League finals (and semi finals in an 8 team group!) = revenue to pay expenses and benefits demanded by GPA for county players. It's all about the money.
Oh, of course. Those greedy players while the poor, under-appreciated suited class with their Mercs and free-wheeling junkets work their fingers to the bone.
Boo, GPA, boo.
Quote from: Syferus on April 10, 2013, 11:41:03 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 10, 2013, 11:04:59 PM
League finals (and semi finals in an 8 team group!) = revenue to pay expenses and benefits demanded by GPA for county players. It's all about the money.
Oh, of course. Those greedy players while the poor, under-appreciated suited class with their Mercs and free-wheeling junkets work their fingers to the bone.
Boo, GPA, boo.
Again you demonstrate the intelligence of a 5 month old dung beetle.
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 11, 2013, 11:52:15 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 10, 2013, 11:41:03 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 10, 2013, 11:04:59 PM
League finals (and semi finals in an 8 team group!) = revenue to pay expenses and benefits demanded by GPA for county players. It's all about the money.
Oh, of course. Those greedy players while the poor, under-appreciated suited class with their Mercs and free-wheeling junkets work their fingers to the bone.
Boo, GPA, boo.
Again you demonstrate the intelligence of a 5 month old dung beetle.
The fact you think an organisation with a turnover of the GAA's needed league semi-finals to cover a few meagre grants say it all, really.
That money could have come out of some proper house-keeping of officials' expenses and full-time salaries if the GAA really wanted it to. People regularly make jibes at the GPA even though they're essentially a union that allows its members to work crazy hours for expenses and a few hundred Euro of grants each for a massive organisation that makes millions in profit each year.
The GPA is not the problem and if you think it is you are, in a word, wrong.
Seanie, be patient, but fire away.
Anyone who knows anything about insects knows that the dung beetle at 5 months old is fully formed into the world's strongest insect, capable of super insect feats. It's an honour to be compared to the 5 month old dung beetle.
Quote from: Main Street on April 12, 2013, 12:16:05 AM
Anyone who knows anything about insects knows that the dung beetle at 5 months old is fully formed into the world's strongest insect, capable of super insect feats. It's an honour to be compared to the 5 month old dung beetle.
:D
Anyway, moving away from small anthropoid animals: would the GAA not be making a loss with a Saturday evening double header at HQ hosting division 3 & 4 finals?
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Quote from: magpie seanie on April 11, 2013, 11:52:15 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 10, 2013, 11:41:03 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 10, 2013, 11:04:59 PM
League finals (and semi finals in an 8 team group!) = revenue to pay expenses and benefits demanded by GPA for county players. It's all about the money.
Oh, of course. Those greedy players while the poor, under-appreciated suited class with their Mercs and free-wheeling junkets work their fingers to the bone.
Boo, GPA, boo.
Again you demonstrate the intelligence of a 5 month old dung beetle.
The fact you think an organisation with a turnover of the GAA's needed league semi-finals to cover a few meagre grants say it all, really.
That money could have come out of some proper house-keeping of officials' expenses and full-time salaries if the GAA really wanted it to. People regularly make jibes at the GPA even though they're essentially a union that allows its members to work crazy hours for expenses and a few hundred Euro of grants each for a massive organisation that makes millions in profit each year.
The GPA is not the problem and if you think it is you are, in a word, wrong.
Hate to be seen agreeing with Syfeen :o but the ridiculous efforts of some posters on this forum to blame the GPA for everything that happens in the GAA makes one wonder at their thought processes or what is between some ears.
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Quote from: magpie seanie on April 11, 2013, 11:52:15 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 10, 2013, 11:41:03 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 10, 2013, 11:04:59 PM
League finals (and semi finals in an 8 team group!) = revenue to pay expenses and benefits demanded by GPA for county players. It's all about the money.
Oh, of course. Those greedy players while the poor, under-appreciated suited class with their Mercs and free-wheeling junkets work their fingers to the bone.
Boo, GPA, boo.
Again you demonstrate the intelligence of a 5 month old dung beetle.
The fact you think an organisation with a turnover of the GAA's needed league semi-finals to cover a few meagre grants say it all, really.
That money could have come out of some proper house-keeping of officials' expenses and full-time salaries if the GAA really wanted it to. People regularly make jibes at the GPA even though they're essentially a union that allows its members to work crazy hours for expenses and a few hundred Euro of grants each for a massive organisation that makes millions in profit each year.
The GPA is not the problem and if you think it is you are, in a word, wrong.
Hate to be seen agreeing with Syfeen :o but the ridiculous efforts of some posters on this forum to blame the GPA for everything that happens in the GAA makes one wonder at their thought processes or what is between some ears.
Well the above just shows how completely removed from reality you two are. County boards are on their knees financially and some of the payments going on are unsustainable and are directly related to "the union" (which is clearly committed to the GAA's amateur ethos by the way...) as you correctly put it (incidentally I didn't realise county boards were forcing these "employees" to do things - Thatcherites the lot of them). I know a lad who could have a heart attack if he ran the full length of the field (that is not an exaggeration) who got €3-4k in expenses last year as part of Sligo's wo
nde
rful hurling team. Sligo spent 44k on its hurling team last year, 12k on its minor football team and 18k on its U21 football team. Have a guess which team has the most GPA members? I think anyone with any brain would agree that is a farcical split of that money in a county with zero hurlers of any use (well there is actually one but he couldn't be bothered any more).
We all appreciate the efforts most county teams put in and they should be looked after accordingly but at what cost? The funding of player mileage, meals, medical expenses etc is killing a lot of county boards. I don't know enough about how money is filetered down from Croke Park but I do know for a fact Sligo is screwed money wise and can't keep up with these costs. I accept there is also waste in other areas but when the likes of Ros end up joined with Longford or Leitrim as an intercounty franchise don't come crying about it.
How much of that 44k went to the GPA??
Regardless of the GPA and their evils you do seem to be drawing some reasonably far fetched conclusions here.
- The GAA don't need league playoffs but are having them. They generate more money. That must be the GPA.
- The Sligo hurling team cost more to maintain than the Sligo minor and under 21 football teams combined. The Sligo hurling team have more GPA members than the two football teams combined. Therefore it must be the GPA's fault.
Basically you seem to have drawn some far fetched conspiracy theories... (This is not a defense of anything GPA related but it's a struggle to see where you drew your correlations from)
Seanie seems to be suffering from "reds under the beds" type visions and delusions
I especially like his "Inter Co Franchise" bit :D
Mind you it's probably time to consider having Regional as opposed to County teams for the lower levels of Hurling - anything outside the top 16.
But back to the D3 final - like D2 and D4 it's a pointless expensive exercise in many ways but then again it gives some lads (who will never get it otherwise) a chance to play in Croke Park in a "National" final.
(Or is it all a GPA plot to undermine the "GAA as we know it" :o)
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 12, 2013, 01:27:56 PM
How much of that 44k went to the GPA??
Regardless of the GPA and their evils you do seem to be drawing some reasonably far fetched conclusions here.
- The GAA don't need league playoffs but are having them. They generate more money. That must be the GPA.
- The Sligo hurling team cost more to maintain than the Sligo minor and under 21 football teams combined. The Sligo hurling team have more GPA members than the two football teams combined. Therefore it must be the GPA's fault.
Basically you seem to have drawn some far fetched conspiracy theories... (This is not a defense of anything GPA related but it's a struggle to see where you drew your correlations from)
I don't think guys should be getting expenses to play hurling for Sligo. It's a joke. There's only 1 team in Ireland they can beat - Leitrim - and they're just about good enough to beat Warwickshire (London would annihilate them). Most club intermediate football teams train harder* and are more dedicated than them yet they must get the agreed union or Dessie and the boys will be up in arms. It's a scandal. That's only €44k that I know for definite.
* I know a few lads from my own club who are on this panel a few years. They would class the training done by our senior club footballers as unnecessary and crazy.
The GPA have been effective at getting their members to the top of the tree in terms of getting money. The vast majority of GAA people don't get a penny for the time and effort they put in. Most don't want it because they love what they're doing. Funny how the "union" in this case are actually the most Thatcher like.
Things like travel expenses etc though are surely more applicable to county than club level... At club level people generally play for where they live so will be there anyway. At county level very few will be training locally..
It's fair enough that you have issues with the GPA as most of us do. I've travelled from distances to train for reserve football for a lot of years for example and never asked for anything. Another guy in the club started making the same journey and asked for expenses which I never would have done.
How you drew a correlation between league playoffs and the GPA is beyond me though - sounds like you just wanted a rant...
I thought it was pretty clear, I actually put in the form of an equation.
Am I missing something in your equation? Let's forget about Sligo hurlers which are irrelevant to division 3 or football league playoffs.
Your argument:
League finals (and semi finals in an 8 team group!) = revenue to pay expenses and benefits demanded by GPA for county players. It's all about the money.
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So league playoffs generate more revenue, the GAA needs more revenue to meet the demands of expenses therefore it's the GPA's fault there are league playoffs.
Or are you not saying the league playoffs are the GPAs fault?
If you are what about league playoffs prior to the GPA?
I
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 12, 2013, 03:49:53 PM
Am I missing something in your equation? Let's forget about Sligo hurlers which are irrelevant to division 3 or football league playoffs.
Your argument:
League finals (and semi finals in an 8 team group!) = revenue to pay expenses and benefits demanded by GPA for county players. It's all about the money.
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So league playoffs generate more revenue, the GAA needs more revenue to meet the demands of expenses therefore it's the GPA's fault there are league playoffs.
Or are you not saying the league playoffs are the GPAs fault?
If you are what about league playoffs prior to the GPA?
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The bit in bold covers what I think. I believe the GAA needs the money, despite what many would have you believe. I'm esecially referring to the ridiculous situation of semi finals in an 8 team group.
While the lower division ones do seem a bit pointless I think it would be a damp squib to have nothing for league champions and would leave a big gap between division 1 finishing and championship starting. It also gives incentives to finish in the top positions in the league if you are say safe early on. (1 game is not enough but one with the incentive each time of another one is better than any challenge game)
I always actually liked the system they used to have with league quarter finals from all divisions with a lot more from division 1 and 2.
I don't entirely disagree with your money point but don't see in this case that it has anything to do with the GPA. League playoffs seemed to mean a lot more years ago than they do now. Maybe it's the qualifiers which have impacted this.
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 12, 2013, 04:10:07 PM
I always actually liked the system they used to have with league quarter finals from all divisions with a lot more from division 1 and 2.
That was a great system. I don't know why they ever got rid of it.
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Quote from: imtommygunn on April 12, 2013, 04:10:07 PM
I always actually liked the system they used to have with league quarter finals from all divisions with a lot more from division 1 and 2.
That was a great system. I don't know why they ever got rid of it.
It was actually, we can agree on that.
top 4 in division 1, top 2 in division 2 and top in divisions 3 & 4.
I could never understand why they on at least two occasions went to a 2 tier league - divisions 1A, 1B and 2A , 2B
Kerry v carlow, leitrim , etc..
Ah, the system is sound as it is now. You have finals and Champions from 4 Divisions. It gives 8 teams finals (and two more semi finals). It's grand as it is. Can you imagine how much of a dead rubber Division 4 would be if there was a team dominating early on in the League campaign. With only one team qualifying and no relegation, games could be meaningless with two to three rounds to go.
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 14, 2013, 12:19:55 PM
Ah, the system is sound as it is now. You have finals and Champions from 4 Divisions. It gives 8 teams finals (and two more semi finals). It's grand as it is. Can you imagine how much of a dead rubber Division 4 would be if there was a team dominating early on in the League campaign. With only one team qualifying and no relegation, games could be meaningless with two to three rounds to go.
For a lot of teams in Div 4, games are fairly meaningless relatively early on.
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 14, 2013, 12:19:55 PM
Ah, the system is sound as it is now. You have finals and Champions from 4 Divisions. It gives 8 teams finals (and two more semi finals). It's grand as it is. Can you imagine how much of a dead rubber Division 4 would be if there was a team dominating early on in the League campaign. With only one team qualifying and no relegation, games could be meaningless with two to three rounds to go.
From recollection, the second team in Divisions 3 and 4 always got promoted, they just didn't make the League quarter-finals.
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 14, 2013, 01:16:24 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 14, 2013, 12:19:55 PM
Ah, the system is sound as it is now. You have finals and Champions from 4 Divisions. It gives 8 teams finals (and two more semi finals). It's grand as it is. Can you imagine how much of a dead rubber Division 4 would be if there was a team dominating early on in the League campaign. With only one team qualifying and no relegation, games could be meaningless with two to three rounds to go.
From recollection, the second team in Divisions 3 and 4 always got promoted, they just didn't make the League quarter-finals.
Fair enough on that point. Still think it's grand the way it is at the moment.
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 14, 2013, 02:38:36 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 14, 2013, 01:16:24 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 14, 2013, 12:19:55 PM
Ah, the system is sound as it is now. You have finals and Champions from 4 Divisions. It gives 8 teams finals (and two more semi finals). It's grand as it is. Can you imagine how much of a dead rubber Division 4 would be if there was a team dominating early on in the League campaign. With only one team qualifying and no relegation, games could be meaningless with two to three rounds to go.
From recollection, the second team in Divisions 3 and 4 always got promoted, they just didn't make the League quarter-finals.
Fair enough on that point. Still think it's grand the way it is at the moment.
Nothing grand about having semi finals for a group of eight teams.
A 1A, 1B with D2 and D3 seems to be the best format to my mind. More opportunities for up-and-coming teams to play the big boys and have valid league semis to boot. Hopefully they return to that idea after the aborted attempt to switch to it before last season.
Any Rossie know the fella from Strokestown with the peaked cao and a loada grey hair coming from all angles underneath it. The bloody hoor had my arse annoyed giving out about Mayo after they lost to Cork in the 2010 league final, when I was near fit to lash out at him! Last Sunday who boards the bus but sat in the seat in front of me and gave out non stop about Connacht football but yer man, though his hair seemed a biteen shorter this time.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 16, 2013, 11:35:26 PM
Any Rossie know the fella from Strokestown with the peaked cao and a loada grey hair coming from all angles underneath it. The bloody hoor had my arse annoyed giving out about Mayo after they lost to Cork in the 2010 league final, when I was near fit to lash out at him! Last Sunday who boards the bus but sat in the seat in front of me and gave out non stop about Connacht football but yer man, though his hair seemed a biteen shorter this time.
I presume that's meant to be cap :D
That bucko is fairly opinionated alright and not shy about letting people have his thoughts on the state of things ;D ;D
He's a constant presence at Roscommon matches for as long as i'm going and thats over 30 years, a very decent man in fairness
Div 3 final is set for Saturday 7pm.
Hump Meath once and they come back for seconds?
Will Mark Ward be playing? :o
Life in this ould thread yet?
Quote from: Ard-Rí on April 27, 2013, 12:51:02 AM
Life in this ould thread yet?
Yeah, let's try and hit page 60, there should be a cup for that as well!
It looks from the media that Meed are firm favourites, which suits Monaghan.. I'd be a bit concerned about our FB line but hoping they can do a job on Newman et al. It should be an interesting game..
I'm personally looking forward to my first county game of the year (disgraceful I know..) Where's that bandwagon?
At least I get to watch Monaghan on tv, top billing.
It's a cup final and when it comes to trophies, we can't afford to be choosy, unlike our Meath brethren.
And then there's the unquantifiable springboard factor.
Freeman is definitely out as we know, but why is Gavin Doogan out?
Quote from: Main Street on April 27, 2013, 12:13:44 PM
At least I get to watch Monaghan on tv, top billing.
Freeman is definitely out as we know, but why is Gavin Doogan out?
I'll answer your question by asking two others.. ::)
1. What TV channel is it on?
2. Dunno about Doogan, and he'll certainly be missed but how far away is Dessie Mone from starting?
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on April 27, 2013, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 27, 2013, 12:13:44 PM
At least I get to watch Monaghan on tv, top billing.
Freeman is definitely out as we know, but why is Gavin Doogan out?
I'll answer your question by asking two others.. ::)
1. What TV channel is it on?
2. Dunno about Doogan, and he'll certainly be missed but how far away is Dessie Mone from starting?
TG4, 6:50 tonight.
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on April 27, 2013, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 27, 2013, 12:13:44 PM
At least I get to watch Monaghan on tv, top billing.
Freeman is definitely out as we know, but why is Gavin Doogan out?
I'll answer your question by asking two others.. ::)
1. What TV channel is it on?
2. Dunno about Doogan, and he'll certainly be missed but how far away is Dessie Mone from starting?
Isn't Dessie listed as a sub? Then at least he's in the ballpark.
settling for LMFM, cant get a stream.
Monaghan 1-05
Meath 1-01
going like the last game it seems. :(
G what happened the day when Meath were men who scared the shit outa the country
Jesus.
We physically look like a junior team.
A mixture of tall lads, short lads, skinny lads and fat lads.
Not every team are built like Kildare. What is attendance looks like most have chosen to watch it at home or in the pub.
Monaghan 1-09
Meath 1-05
LEATH AM
Pass that set up the Meath goal was a peach. Otherwise Monaghan defence is looking better than Meath's. Monaghan forwards had a great first quarter, shooting some great scores. Miscues since and over elaborate passing. Keep it simple, feed K. Hughes, who is all over his man, and we should run out clear winners.
Just keep getting the ball to Brian Meade.
Jaysus i feel bad cheering on Meath,but it is against Monaghan ;D
Whisht,goal
Meath 2-06
Monaghan 1-09
Meath 2-07
Monaghan 1-09
Quote from: beer baron on April 27, 2013, 07:56:46 PM
Jaysus i feel bad cheering on Meath,but it is against Monaghan ;D
Surely the other way around!
Monaghan 1-11
Meath 2-07
Well i've Meath backed,that's the main reason :P I live close to Monaghan and come into contact with a lot more of them than Meath people anyway and my god they are a serious bandwagon brigade.
Monaghan 1-14
Meath 2-08
Monaghan 1-15
Meath 3-08
1 in it
3 mins to go
Goal Monaghan,
that might be it so
tis all she wrote
Monaghan 2-15
Meath 3-08
well done Monaghan, kept their noses in front and got the scores when necessary. Sounded like a decent league final, a rare thing.
Good to win and it was an enjoyable game. Lots for both camps to examine ahead of the Championship.
Quote from: thejuice on April 27, 2013, 08:26:44 PM
Monaghan 1-15
Meath 3-08
1 in it
3 mins to go
Quote from: thejuice on April 27, 2013, 08:32:54 PM
tis all she wrote
Monaghan 2-15
Meath 3-08
well done Monaghan, kept their noses in front and got the scores when necessary. Sounded like a decent league final, a rare thing.
Great match. Monaghan slightly better organised in defence.
It was a very enjoyable game. Div 3 rocks!
I think Meath missed their chance after they equalised, with hitting wide after wide and eventually Monaghan regained their grip on the game. Dessie Mone coming on in that crucial time helped and was a catalyst of sorts for the swing. Great to see a competitive game, almost free from cynicism with both teams contributing in equal parts.
Of course I'm pleased that Monaghan won but I would just be slightly less pleased if Meath had prevailed.
Quote from: thejuice on April 27, 2013, 08:32:54 PM
tis all she wrote
Monaghan 2-15 2-16
Meath 3-08
well done Monaghan, kept their noses in front and got the scores when necessary. Sounded like a decent league final, a rare thing.
The Div 4 final wasn't bad either. Well done Limerick.
Two v enjoyable games. Maith sibh TG4
Fantastic game to watch, all credit to both teams. Plenty of positives to take out of it. We asked Monaghan the big questions in the last minutes and they responded, can't say fairer than that. If I were being really critical I'd say Mick O'Dowd lost the game on us, but it was apparent from the start that he didn't really care about it. Full steam ahead for the championship!
Sweet dreams D3 2013, it's been nice knowing you, umbrellas, Royals on suicide watch, wee Cabin fellas and all.
Ros 2014. You heard it hear first.
Enjoyable game and a decent atmosphere considering the small crowd. I was expecting a Monaghan collapse once Meath got the scores at the start of the second half, but it was good to see them respond. The late goals kept it interesting to the end. It might only be Division 3, but we don't win much silverware and we don't win many games in Croke Park, so it's a great result for us heading into the Antrim game.
Farewell Division 3.
Well done monaghan today. Good win and good match. Impressed wit owen duffy throughout this league and he delivered again today. Kieran hughes has had his moments also. Great to get a cup along wit promotion.
Very enjoyable game, some great goals as well. Fair play to both teams.
Hi lads,
Tactical analysis of Monaghan's win up here http://action81.com/blog/?p=7160
And just for good measure here's my bit on the Division 4 Final http://action81.com/blog/?p=7158
Emmet
Quote from: emmetryan on April 28, 2013, 11:43:18 AM
Hi lads,
Tactical analysis of Monaghan's win up here http://action81.com/blog/?p=7160
There's an uncharitable reference to Dessie Mone's contribution after he came on to replace Clerkin, early in the 2nd half.
"While Mone did little of note, taking out Clerkin who was proving a liability at midfield helped reduce Meath's control in that area"While Mone little of note when shooting for a point, he repeatedly got on the end of the ball in Monaghan half and drove the team forward.
He was the outstanding substitute of the game and not just because he replaced an ailing Clerkin.
After Clerkin went off, Meath still managed to get plenty of ball around midfield and make trouble for another 10 minutes.
Quote from: Main Street on April 29, 2013, 11:06:04 AM
Quote from: emmetryan on April 28, 2013, 11:43:18 AM
Hi lads,
Tactical analysis of Monaghan's win up here http://action81.com/blog/?p=7160
There's an uncharitable reference to Dessie Mone's contribution after he came on to replace Clerkin, early in the 2nd half.
"While Mone did little of note, taking out Clerkin who was proving a liability at midfield helped reduce Meath's control in that area"
While Mone little of note when shooting for a point, he repeatedly got on the end of the ball in Monaghan half and drove the team forward.
He was the outstanding substitute of the game and not just because he replaced an ailing Clerkin.
After Clerkin went off, Meath still managed to get plenty of ball around midfield and make trouble for another 10 minutes.
I see your point, I was trying to get across that the way Mone's arrival changed the game wasn't so much in what he did right as what he didn't do wrong. Conceding frees at midfield was proving a big issue for Monaghan prior to his arrival and that essentially stopped with the switch.
Quote from: emmetryan on April 29, 2013, 12:00:28 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 29, 2013, 11:06:04 AM
Quote from: emmetryan on April 28, 2013, 11:43:18 AM
Hi lads,
Tactical analysis of Monaghan's win up here http://action81.com/blog/?p=7160
There's an uncharitable reference to Dessie Mone's contribution after he came on to replace Clerkin, early in the 2nd half.
"While Mone did little of note, taking out Clerkin who was proving a liability at midfield helped reduce Meath's control in that area"
While Mone little of note when shooting for a point, he repeatedly got on the end of the ball in Monaghan half and drove the team forward.
He was the outstanding substitute of the game and not just because he replaced an ailing Clerkin.
After Clerkin went off, Meath still managed to get plenty of ball around midfield and make trouble for another 10 minutes.
I see your point, I was trying to get across that the way Mone's arrival changed the game wasn't so much in what he did right as what he didn't do wrong. Conceding frees at midfield was proving a big issue for Monaghan prior to his arrival and that essentially stopped with the switch.
I'm with Main Street on this one - Mone made a very positive impact when he came on. He's a nice option to have on the bench.
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Hi lads,
Tactical analysis of Monaghan's win up here http://action81.com/blog/?p=7160
There's an uncharitable reference to Dessie Mone's contribution after he came on to replace Clerkin, early in the 2nd half.
"While Mone did little of note, taking out Clerkin who was proving a liability at midfield helped reduce Meath's control in that area"
While Mone little of note when shooting for a point, he repeatedly got on the end of the ball in Monaghan half and drove the team forward.
He was the outstanding substitute of the game and not just because he replaced an ailing Clerkin.
After Clerkin went off, Meath still managed to get plenty of ball around midfield and make trouble for another 10 minutes.
I see your point, I was trying to get across that the way Mone's arrival changed the game wasn't so much in what he did right as what he didn't do wrong. Conceding frees at midfield was proving a big issue for Monaghan prior to his arrival and that essentially stopped with the switch.
I'm with Main Street on this one - Mone made a very positive impact when he came on. He's a nice option to have on the bench.
Dessie done very well when introduced on Sat with his surging runs and is technically a very good footballer. But, he has built up a reputation (righty or wrongly) of being the 'bad boy' of Monaghan football which unfortunately tends to get higher priority with the media, in my opinion.
He's a great option to have from the bench though, as stated. With himself, Doogan and Tommy to come back into the team it gives strength and experience throughout.
Stop Moneing about the analysis lads.
Dessie mone is a decent ball playing half back to be fair to him but seems to revert to "the dark arts" when moved to corner back. He was up there with ricy till a few years ago but seems ok now.
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Dessie mone is a decent ball playing half back to be fair to him but seems to revert to "the dark arts" when moved to corner back. He was up there with ricy till a few years ago but seems ok now.
Ah Dessie hasn't totally lost the Dark arts just yet, he's already been sent of twice this year for Monaghan! And not forgetting the craic he gets up to at club level!
The Div 3 title was nice but not essential win for Monaghan. The manner of the win was important in that it showed areas clearly needed for improvement in defence and midfield. Biggest plus is the strength of the Monaghan bench which is the best squad we've had in years. Even when Banty was in charge it was usually sub Rory Woods and then bring him back on with 15 minutes to go. We've got real options now. O'Rourke has done a good job for Monaghan so far though some of his substitutions were highly quesitonable against Meath. Did Gollogly honestly do any better than Dermot Malone? Not really in my opinion. And bringing the willing but totally out of his depth Donaghy on , still bamboozles me. We've much better options on the bench e.g. Jack McCarron and Pete Dooney. Still have Freeman, Doogan, and O'Hanlon to return from injury.
Meath folks shouldn't be disheartned by the defeat, they've some fine young players there in Gillespie, Menton, Wallace, Newman and Lenihan. Those lads should be mainstays for the Meath teams for a long time.
I guess I just saw more of him a few years ago then!
There are some really good footballers in Monaghan and they're not a team that should ever have been in division 3. Finlay and Darren Hughes would get on most teams about the place and there are several others who are very useful. Hughes's younger brother improving too.
I'm not looking forward to antrim playing them in the championship to be honest as I don't think it will end well for us.
I see Martin Breheny in the Indo has selected the Farney men's mighty forward Conor McGuiness for his mid-term All-Star team.
Must have some of that famous Jimmy blood in his veins ???
Wouldn't you think that floot would have more to write about in Mid May with the football Championships really getting underway in 4 days time?
Picking imaginary teams is for filling space in November or December FFS >:(
Quote from: Rossfan on May 16, 2013, 04:15:36 PM
Wouldn't you think that floot would have more to write about in Mid May with the football Championships really getting underway in 4 days time?
Picking imaginary teams is for filling space in November or December FFS >:(
Martin just knows the championship doesn't really start until we enter 8)
antrim's James Loughrey started and played whole game at right half back for Cork v Limerick tonight. Was some loss for us