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Derry have lost their entire half back line. Murnin a big loss - I think Armagh have learnt how to cope without O'Neill more.

This game is becoming more of a toss up the closer it gets.
Armagh without O'Neill and Murnin will struggle.
Derry without their half back line will struggle as its the basis for a lot of our attacks.

Yeh I did think that Galway would maybe beat Derry but this game is up in the air. Which derry will you get and which armagh will you get. Hard to know.

Derry have lost their entire half back line. Murnin a big loss - I think Armagh have learnt how to cope without O'Neill more.

Is his injury from that stamp? He's injury prone anyway but to be injured from that act must be infuriating.

Probably Kildare

He's from Tipp and they all know about hurling down there 

Has mckinless got his suspension yet?

If you have gaa go you can watch it back I think.

I would be very sorry to see gleeson go. I think we will be a lot worse off for it when he goes. League was very tough with the absence of players - we just don't have the depth to replace that number of players and compete at that level.

Mr they were a red card waiting to happen. If it wasn't that boy it would likely have ended up someone else.

Realistically Carlow and Laois are about our level. The problem for us, and them as well, is that Offaly are going to come good eventually and then there's one spot that will really be the yo yo one.

I would say he's burned a lot of bridges in kk and this is a blot on his cv. Dunno if he will ever manage kk.

Beating Wexford massive result and were it not for the red card maybe the Galway game could have been different. Disappointing game more against Dublin than anyone really.

Dublin are far ahead of us. They're in a Leinster final which we can only dream of. I still think we are doing well and we have uncovered some good players this year. McManus was our leader for years so replacing him was always going to be tough which made the year more challenging.

There wouldn't be many in current crop have been really successful at minor. There's a few left from the ai u21 team but after that the players we have would have been in b competitions etc. I think that is why gleeson has done such a great job - we have not been competing with division one teams at underage but have been able to up it at senior.

Great win today though maybe not a great performance but that doesn't matter. We always struggle with Carlow physically but there's a lot of pace in that team which really helps. The extra man helped too. Carlow a decent enough team but they do struggle with their discipline.

James mcnaughton in full flight tough to catch. Same with the Elliots. Definitely glad to hear the final whistle there.

So Rishi rich wants mandatory national service for 18 year olds. We need to get as far away as possible from these people... (though I suspect it's about as likely as a bridge to Scotland)

Kildare and Meath same boat. Some half decent underage players but from the outside looking in it looks like in both counties they have went for former playing legends and it hasn't worked out at all. Yes it runs a bit deeper than those two men but if Louth can raise their level like that Meath and Kildare should be fit to do something too.

Donegal just much better. Thought Tyrone were going to really put it up to them but have really dropped off.