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Messages - imtommygunn

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I don't think there would be at all. I'm not from either place.

You probably don't think so because they are rarely highlighted.

In Jim Gavin's tenure, Dublin have been involved in:

2 biting allegations ( O'Brien and O'Gara)
A mass brawl behind a closed door challenge match (Armagh)
2 gouging incidents (O'Gara and McMahon)
2 incidents of simulation to get a player sent off (Cooper on McManus, McMahon on O'Shea)
Cooper leaving his foot in Diarmuid O'Connor was as malicious an act I've seen on a football field in years too
Connolly shoving a match official
Various other incidents of cynically closing matches out by instigating mini brawls

Among other indiscretions.

I don't think Dublin are a particularly dirty team but they are well equipped in the dark arts, thuggery and violence. Most of these matters are generally glossed over though and never held against them.

But the inconsistent reporting and narrative around different teams engaging in similar acts does tend to have an impact on the way teams are portrayed.

From a Tyrone perspective if you look at how we are perceived and how McCann has been vilified, there may be merit to it. When you look at how we are perceived and McCann is portrayed in relation to the actions of other counties and their players then we are certainly entitled to draw grievances.

Would anyone ever suggest Jim Gavin sends his players out to bite, dive, and gouge their opponents? Would anyone suggest he sends his players out to physically interfere with match officials?

Connolly hardly shoved the match official and there was a hell of a lot of condemnation of him especially from the Sunday game.

I thought the furore only Connolly was over the top but it didn't stick with Dublin. Different narratives for different teams.

He doesn't play for them any more?

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Also Connolly is now gone and not through his own making it would appear.

Any which way it's about McCann (Cooper isn't great and I forgot about him) but there is an awful lot of excusing being done here.

I do condemn but is not really a condemnation...

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GAA Discussion / Re: Football qualifier route 2019
« on: June 11, 2019, 02:48:33 PM »
It's in corrigan at 3(I think) saturday. To be fair there'll not be very many antrim fans there.

[Edit] in fact pending safety inspection. Sorry got you now.

That will be interesting to see the outcome of. Do we actually have a ground safe enough to play matches at.

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I don't think there would be at all. I'm not from either place.

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It a dirty action. Nearly everone agrees. Though that clown angelo tries to bring up ever previous incidents as to lessen the actual offence. Though be the day we get a county manager who makes his player sit out games for conduct like this. Instead of waiting for croke park to react. The so called head stamp accidental.

I'm not lessening the action. You do seem to have a problem with balance however.

It was wrong, needless, stupid, trampish and he should get s good ban for it (but the rules say otherwise).

The hysteria is a bit much. McCann deserves the criticism he gets but there are plenty of other players from other counties who get away with worse without any of the scrutiny. Some of them have a longer rapsheet than McCann and play for counties every bit as high profile as Tyrone.

Not that many have a longer rapsheet to be fair. What's that old saying "not his first rodeo".

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General discussion / Re: Premier League 2019/20
« on: June 11, 2019, 02:14:26 PM »
I love my job, but if someone doubles my wages, thats a serious offer..

Personally I think he woudnt even give it a moments thought, He's Liverpool through and through now. he's bedded in well and no reason not to give him the captains armband as he'll be playing all the games unlike Henderson

That's different. You most likely have a notice period in your job. Liverpool don't have to allow him to speak to city, hypothetically, within his contract period.

City are great team with huge earning potential but there is something quite sterile about the whole place. A guy like that would probably only go to Real , Barca or whatever.

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General discussion / Re: Premier League 2019/20
« on: June 11, 2019, 11:54:27 AM »
It would take a ludicrous amount of money to make liverpool willing to sell him. Without him they'd have had no title challenge or no champions league so that is a pretty large worth in there.

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Did he think that the ball was in McMenamin's mouth??

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GAA Discussion / Re: split the dubs in 4
« on: June 10, 2019, 08:11:31 PM »
He is a very spiteful and bitter person. Very hard to pay much attention to a lot of stuff he writes.

Keep being cynical on everything and eventually you will be right.

As said outbursts on Taylor and Harte were ridiculous.

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: June 10, 2019, 10:01:06 AM »
Really disappointed in the game on Saturday.

It was like men against boys for most of it. Even with that with ten minutes to go the game was still there for the taking, but we didnt have enough about us to go and take it on.

Hurling at higher levels has got much more physical over the last number of years (I think strength and conditioning programmes have a lot to do with it). We haven't really got any more physical at all.

We are very lightweight in comparison to some of the teams we play.

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: June 10, 2019, 09:20:40 AM »
The hurling is usually not too bad for that though. The football punditry on RTE is just full of bluffers these days.

You get debate and people get allowed to talk with the hurling pundits. They just talk over the top of each other in the football. (Well specifically Brolly).

I'd be surprised if he wasn't back. He did some decent analysis on that game too and fitted in well.

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: June 10, 2019, 09:11:37 AM »
Yeah. They're a lot weaker without Daniel Flynn but you would still have them as favourites. Still - nothing to lose.

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Watched it a few times now... was he trying to pull out his gum shield?
And then Mcmenamin wasnt wearing one?

It happened very quickly, so hard to gauge if there was that kind of intent, I'll tell ye tho if he had done it to me he'd have a very sore finger!

Kinda a stupid and weird thing to do but hardly cause for the hysterical language banging around.

Marty clark said it was the worst thing he'd seen in any sport....wtf is he talking about.

There was intent to put his hand in the boy's mouth. Is that not intent enough? I wouldn't get hysterical about it but at the same time it's very hard to comprehend you defending the guy.

What exactly he intended to do when he put his hand in the boy's mouth is the only question of intent.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Football qualifier route 2019
« on: June 10, 2019, 09:01:15 AM »
Shorter straw for down and longford.

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: June 10, 2019, 09:00:21 AM »
Kildare. Not sure how to feel about that one. Hopefully they're wounded by the dublin defeat!

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