Things that make you go What the F**k?

[ziggy90]

Indeed it does. There's a big 'head in the sand' attitude to this  crime and its perpetrators.

[seafoid]

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/no-irish-no-gay-banner-hung-over-motorway-being-treated-as-a-hate-crime-37439460.html

[heganboy]

Their culture/religion ordinarily wouldnt be relevant but there have been several instances of this in the north of England by men from the same background so I think it is absolutely fair to question if this behaviour is related to their background in which women are seen as subserviant.

Which religion or culture would you point to that doesn't treat women as subservient?

[Minder]

The prosecutor in the Rochdale grooming gang in 2012, Nazir Afzal, said this type of street, gang grooming that we have seen in Rochdale, Halifax, Huddersfield etc British Pakistani & south Asian men are disproportionately the groups that are involved.

[omaghjoe]

And if the article had have included their religion that's fine. It's a bit fcuked up to be complaining that the article didn't mention their religion though.

The article did mention that the cases involved immigrant communities, a wee bit inaccurate to include all immigrants and a wee bit insulting to those of a significant minortiy in England such as those of Indian, Afro Caribbean,Polish and for that matter Irish descent.

The vast majority of all of these cases are Pakistani Muslims, like it or not there is a reoccurring pattern there and ignoring that is not having an honest conversation about it. It is one of afew reoccurring themes in these cases, another is of the local authorities turning a blind eye when they new about it. Vicky Pollard's pretty funny but perhaps she an example of how main stream society views the demographic of the victims.

[The Iceman]

gallsman how many majority muslim countries would you move female members of your family to?

[Hardy]

The vast majority of the bankers who robbed the country were members of golf clubs.

[gallsman]

gallsman how many majority muslim countries would you move female members of your family to?

What on earth has that got to do with anything?! The point isn't that I have a big "happy, clappy, everything about Islam is so wonderful, why doesn't everyone embrace it more and ignore the many issues" attitude about things. I just don't like racism and sectarianism, that's all. Even the way you phrase the question shows you up.

[Hardy]

You're missing the point gallsman. It's important to attach labels to people so that you can decide in advance what to expect of them.

[Orior]

You're missing the point gallsman. It's important to attach labels to people so that you can decide in advance what to expect of them.

Just in case there are any new people on board - Hardy always says the opposite of what he means.

[brokencrossbar1]

You're missing the point gallsman. It's important to attach labels to people so that you can decide in advance what to expect of them.

Just in case there are any new people on board - Hardy always says the opposite of what he means.

No he doesn't

[Insane Bolt]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/daughter-of-elderly-woman-racially-abused-on-a-ryanair-flight-says-her-mother-is-a-member-of-the-windrush-generation/ar-BBOFkh6?li=BBoPWjQ

Unbelievable 😡😡

[omaghjoe]

The vast majority of the bankers who robbed the country were members of golf clubs.

I was originally of the opinion that this was opportunistic xenophobia such as this articulate gentleman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE2OzGfIDLQ

But the cases are to frequent and follow to similar of a pattern to ignore

Pakistani make up <5% of the English population but Pakistani men appear to be 80%+ of the perpetrators of these crimes. (Open to correction on the figures). Its a conversation that has to be had not least by members of that community themselves, which I am sure they are having. Any social worker or policeman would give it a second glance when they hear or see of girls of a certain age mixing with a man from that background.

Incredibly these gangs are probably one of the reasons for Brexit... as well as the denials and howls of racism from the guardianesque zealots

[seafoid]

The vast majority of the bankers who robbed the country were members of golf clubs.

I was originally of the opinion that this was opportunistic xenophobia such as this articulate gentleman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE2OzGfIDLQ

But the cases are to frequent and follow to similar of a pattern to ignore

Pakistani make up <5% of the English population but Pakistani men appear to be 80%+ of the perpetrators of these crimes. (Open to correction on the figures). Its a conversation that has to be had not least by members of that community themselves, which I am sure they are having. Any social worker or policeman would give it a second glance when they hear or see of girls of a certain age mixing with a man from that background.

Incredibly these gangs are probably one of the reasons for Brexit... as well as the denials and howls of racism from the guardianesque zealots

Joe

Can you explain in a few lines what the EU or the Common Agricultural policy or the single market
has to do with grooming.

[LeoMc]

The vast majority of the bankers who robbed the country were members of golf clubs.

I was originally of the opinion that this was opportunistic xenophobia such as this articulate gentleman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE2OzGfIDLQ

But the cases are to frequent and follow to similar of a pattern to ignore

Pakistani make up <5% of the English population but Pakistani men appear to be 80%+ of the perpetrators of these crimes. (Open to correction on the figures). Its a conversation that has to be had not least by members of that community themselves, which I am sure they are having. Any social worker or policeman would give it a second glance when they hear or see of girls of a certain age mixing with a man from that background.

Incredibly these gangs are probably one of the reasons for Brexit... as well as the denials and howls of racism from the guardianesque zealots

They make up 10% of such cases, not 90%. It is a still a high proportion overall based on their smaller population but 90% is Tommy Robinson level projection.