The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

[laoislad]

VAR got both decisions spot on.

The offside rule should be changed though to give more advantage to the attacking team. Mane had a great header ruled out a couple of games ago for being a centimetre offside.

I think the offside was wrong but var seems to have unintentionally redefined offside rules so the attacker doesn't have the advantage. In the context of how var works it was correct(and this has counted against Liverpool this season too) and for consistency I don't see how they change that mid season anyway.

Var is a bag of shite though in general.

If VAR hadn't been in place today and things had gone the same way Liverpool would have lost one nil.

Ridiculous thing to say.
Even if Liverpool had gone in 1 down at half time they still had a whole second half to win the game.
It would have been a completely different second half to what we saw if they had been losing.

[laoislad]

Another win for the World Champions.
Tired enough performance but deserved in the end.

Job done! Wolves are a good tough side and were very unlucky with the VAR call on their goal.

Phenomenal run!

Wolves are a tough side alright. The Away game in Molineux will be our toughest game of the January fixtures imo.

[From the Bunker]

Another win for the World Champions.
Tired enough performance but deserved in the end.

Job done! Wolves are a good tough side and were very unlucky with the VAR call on their goal.

Phenomenal run!

Wolves are a tough side alright. The Away game in Molineux will be our toughest game of the January fixtures imo.

+1

[brokencrossbar1]

Another win for the World Champions.
Tired enough performance but deserved in the end.

Job done! Wolves are a good tough side and were very unlucky with the VAR call on their goal.

Phenomenal run!

Wolves are a tough side alright. The Away game in Molineux will be our toughest game of the January fixtures imo.

+1

Yeah they'll be sore from today and feel hard done by. Hopefully we'll have gandered a few more wins and be sitting comfortably on the top still. Hard to believe we are sitting so far ahead. I still don't want to believe it till the trophy is sitting in Anfield. Really don't want to have dreams busted again...

[From the Bunker]

Another win for the World Champions.
Tired enough performance but deserved in the end.

Job done! Wolves are a good tough side and were very unlucky with the VAR call on their goal.

Phenomenal run!

Wolves are a tough side alright. The Away game in Molineux will be our toughest game of the January fixtures imo.

+1

Yeah they'll be sore from today and feel hard done by. Hopefully we'll have gandered a few more wins and be sitting comfortably on the top still. Hard to believe we are sitting so far ahead. I still don't want to believe it till the trophy is sitting in Anfield. Really don't want to have dreams busted again...

I Honestly thought that with the WCC in Qatar and the quick fire difficult fixtures, City would gain ground on us over the Festive Season.

[BennyCake]

Liverpool riding their luck lately. All big decisions going their way.

Still, don't think it's going to matter much. Title is secured already.

[Boycey]

Liverpool's form line is ridiculous as someone pointed out earlier and sooner or later it's gotta falter but even if it does there is nothing to suggest that City can go on the kind of winning streak needed to put any kind of pressure on them....

Home and hosed....

[J70]

VAR got both decisions spot on.

The offside rule should be changed though to give more advantage to the attacking team. Mane had a great header ruled out a couple of games ago for being a centimetre offside.

I think they got it right, based on the technology everyone signed on to, but I'm still skeptical about these mm offside decisions and the margin of error they're based on. They're doing the ultra fine lines to see who is farthest forward, which is fine, but how accurately are they pinpointing when the pass is made?

The Van Dijk handball one, from the main camera view, there did not appear to be any change in the movement or trajectory of the ball, so unless other angles show contact, I don't see what all the crying is about.

[johnnycool]

Liverpool's form line is ridiculous as someone pointed out earlier and sooner or later it's gotta falter but even if it does there is nothing to suggest that City can go on the kind of winning streak needed to put any kind of pressure on them....

Home and hosed....

I think so too.

Liverpool can afford to lose two, maybe three games and still win at a canter.

City have dropped off

Get the bus ready for May time.

[Ambrose]

"Liverpool fans will be unbearable if they win the league"

I plan on being unbearable while we win the league.

[J70]

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Doesn't look a handball to me.

[laoislad]

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Doesn't look a handball to me.

That's because it wasn't.

[GiveItToTheShooters]

Have to say that I don't see what all the fuss is about regarding VAR. Both calls were spot on. The wolves one was offside, marginally or not, therefore no goal. It really is that simple.
Everyone seems to have a problem saying you can't rule goals out if its that close, but that's what VAR is for. We had a 'goal' at Man City last season that was 11 millimetres from going over the line that cost us the title, but that was grand and there was no fuss kicked up over that. So to say we can't be giving these marginal calls offside when they're offside and that it's ruining the game is absolutely ludicrous in my opinion. VAR was brought in to get those tight decisions correct, and that's what it's doing.

But on a side note, a great 2019 and some run we're on, but i'll not believe it until she has red ribbons on the handles.

[johnnycool]

Have to say that I don't see what all the fuss is about regarding VAR. Both calls were spot on. The wolves one was offside, marginally or not, therefore no goal. It really is that simple.
Everyone seems to have a problem saying you can't rule goals out if its that close, but that's what VAR is for. We had a 'goal' at Man City last season that was 11 millimetres from going over the line that cost us the title, but that was grand and there was no fuss kicked up over that. So to say we can't be giving these marginal calls offside when they're offside and that it's ruining the game is absolutely ludicrous in my opinion. VAR was brought in to get those tight decisions correct, and that's what it's doing.

But on a side note, a great 2019 and some run we're on, but i'll not believe it until she has red ribbons on the handles.

It's all about margins of error

1) when the ball was actually kicked, i.e. I presume when it leaves the foot is what they're using
2) the line drawn on where the last part of the defender is, not sure of this and can't find out how they draw that line
3) the line drawn on where the scoring part of the attacker is..... as above.

There's a fair bit of tolerance to be allowed for and I'm not sure how they do that but IMO if the thickness of the lines is that said tolerance then any overlapping of the two lines drawn should result in a goal standing as even VAR cannot be sure someone is offside,  benefit of the attacker and all that.

Probably didn't explain that too well...

[GiveItToTheShooters]

Have to say that I don't see what all the fuss is about regarding VAR. Both calls were spot on. The wolves one was offside, marginally or not, therefore no goal. It really is that simple.
Everyone seems to have a problem saying you can't rule goals out if its that close, but that's what VAR is for. We had a 'goal' at Man City last season that was 11 millimetres from going over the line that cost us the title, but that was grand and there was no fuss kicked up over that. So to say we can't be giving these marginal calls offside when they're offside and that it's ruining the game is absolutely ludicrous in my opinion. VAR was brought in to get those tight decisions correct, and that's what it's doing.

But on a side note, a great 2019 and some run we're on, but i'll not believe it until she has red ribbons on the handles.

It's all about margins of error

1) when the ball was actually kicked, i.e. I presume when it leaves the foot is what they're using
2) the line drawn on where the last part of the defender is, not sure of this and can't find out how they draw that line
3) the line drawn on where the scoring part of the attacker is..... as above.

There's a fair bit of tolerance to be allowed for and I'm not sure how they do that but IMO if the thickness of the lines is that said tolerance then any overlapping of the two lines drawn should result in a goal standing as even VAR cannot be sure someone is offside,  benefit of the attacker and all that.

Probably didn't explain that too well...

1)Yes.
2)Yes, the last part of the defender that can play the ball. The line is drawn vertically from that point on his body from floor upwards and that line on the floor is taken.
3)No, whatever body part the attacker scores with isn't taken into account. Like the defender, the last part of the attacker that can play the ball is taken, and the line is drawn the same as the defender's, from the floor vertically upwards to wherever the last part of the attackers body is. These two lines on the floor are measured from the point when the ball is played.
Former referee Dermot Gallagher on Sky Sports says this 3D software is as accurate as can be in the world today, and there is rightly no grey area on offsides, because if you start yapping about marginal offside calls even though they're offiside and trying o change rules etc then that's the beginning of the end of football. So basically if it's offside it's offside, suck it up if you don't like it, because the decision is the correct one.