National League Final- Play it in Croke Park

Started by southderry, April 12, 2009, 07:33:51 PM

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TacadoirArdMhacha

Quote from: cornafean on April 14, 2009, 12:15:39 PM
If the GAA can successfully attract 80,000 to Croker for a relatively meaningless league fixture on a freezing January night, it can surely attract half that number to a League finals double-bill. The same applies to the Tyrone v Armagh fixture. The way things are going, our kids will have to take up rugby if they ever want to play, or indeed watch their team, in Croke Park.

Come on, that's a bit of an exageration. There will be 3 rugby matches in Croke Park 2009 (do we host the autumn internationals this year?), that would be antoher 2 at most - total 5. Arguably trying your luck at being a rock / pop star would be as good a way onto the hallowed turf as egg chasing.

On the league finals, the way they've fallen, Dublin would actually be a reasonably fair location for all. 4 matches in one day is possible with throw ins of 1pm, 2 45pm, 4 30pm and 6 15pm. Might attract a reasonable attendance in terms of tickets sold though the fact that few people will watch all matches would make it look very sparce.
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Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 14, 2009, 12:32:02 PM
Quote from: cornafean on April 14, 2009, 12:15:39 PM
If the GAA can successfully attract 80,000 to Croker for a relatively meaningless league fixture on a freezing January night, it can surely attract half that number to a League finals double-bill. The same applies to the Tyrone v Armagh fixture. The way things are going, our kids will have to take up rugby if they ever want to play, or indeed watch their team, in Croke Park.

Come on, that's a bit of an exageration. There will be 3 rugby matches in Croke Park 2009 (do we host the autumn internationals this year?), that would be antoher 2 at most - total 5. Arguably trying your luck at being a rock / pop star would be as good a way onto the hallowed turf as egg chasing.

On the league finals, the way they've fallen, Dublin would actually be a reasonably fair location for all. 4 matches in one day is possible with throw ins of 1pm, 2 45pm, 4 30pm and 6 15pm. Might attract a reasonable attendance in terms of tickets sold though the fact that few people will watch all matches would make it look very sparce.

I think that might not be a bad idea but have the first game at 12 noon.

Mid Mon

Bullshit. How can u expect voluntary stewards to be present from 10am until 9pm???
3 games is a big ask 4 is a total non-runner.

Maguire01

Quote from: cornafean on April 14, 2009, 12:15:39 PM
If the GAA can successfully attract 80,000 to Croker for a relatively meaningless league fixture on a freezing January night, it can surely attract half that number to a League finals double-bill. The same applies to the Tyrone v Armagh fixture. The way things are going, our kids will have to take up rugby if they ever want to play, or indeed watch their team, in Croke Park.
Tyrone /Armagh is a first round Ulster Championship fixture. This is the finals of the national leagues. There's a big difference in the arguments as to what should be played in Croke Park.

And the rugby isn't having any impact on whether games will or will not be played in Croke Park.

Maguire01

Quote from: Mid Mon on April 14, 2009, 12:46:46 PM
Bullshit. How can u expect voluntary stewards to be present from 10am until 9pm???
3 games is a big ask 4 is a total non-runner.
Are the stewards definitely voluntary at Croke Park?
Even if they are, surely two shifts would solve this issue. It will hardly be the deciding factor.

cornafean

Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 14, 2009, 12:32:02 PM
Quote from: cornafean on April 14, 2009, 12:15:39 PM
If the GAA can successfully attract 80,000 to Croker for a relatively meaningless league fixture on a freezing January night, it can surely attract half that number to a League finals double-bill. The same applies to the Tyrone v Armagh fixture. The way things are going, our kids will have to take up rugby if they ever want to play, or indeed watch their team, in Croke Park.

Come on, that's a bit of an exageration. There will be 3 rugby matches in Croke Park 2009 (do we host the autumn internationals this year?), that would be antoher 2 at most - total 5. Arguably trying your luck at being a rock / pop star would be as good a way onto the hallowed turf as egg chasing.

On the league finals, the way they've fallen, Dublin would actually be a reasonably fair location for all. 4 matches in one day is possible with throw ins of 1pm, 2 45pm, 4 30pm and 6 15pm. Might attract a reasonable attendance in terms of tickets sold though the fact that few people will watch all matches would make it look very sparce.

Of course its an exaggeration but its very frustrating to see the Croke Park promotion people passing up good promotional opportunities. If enough League Finals are played in the likes of Parnell Park, then they will end up like League of Ireland fixtures, supported by the diehards and ignored by the broad mass of supporters.
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cornafean

Quote from: Maguire01 on April 14, 2009, 12:47:48 PM
Quote from: cornafean on April 14, 2009, 12:15:39 PM
If the GAA can successfully attract 80,000 to Croker for a relatively meaningless league fixture on a freezing January night, it can surely attract half that number to a League finals double-bill. The same applies to the Tyrone v Armagh fixture. The way things are going, our kids will have to take up rugby if they ever want to play, or indeed watch their team, in Croke Park.
Tyrone /Armagh is a first round Ulster Championship fixture. This is the finals of the national leagues. There's a big difference in the arguments as to what should be played in Croke Park.

but no difference in the potential marketing benefit that is being squandered in both cases.
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 14, 2009, 12:47:48 PM
And the rugby isn't having any impact on whether games will or will not be played in Croke Park.

Did I say otherwise  ???
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thebandit

Division 1 and 2 finals confirmed for Croke Park on 26th

Div 3 & 4 finals are a double header in Longford.

Maguire01

Quote from: thebandit on April 14, 2009, 01:03:44 PM
Division 1 and 2 finals confirmed for Croke Park on 26th

Div 3 & 4 finals are a double header in Longford.
Where did you hear that?

Maguire01

Quote from: cornafean on April 14, 2009, 01:03:00 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 14, 2009, 12:47:48 PM
Quote from: cornafean on April 14, 2009, 12:15:39 PM
If the GAA can successfully attract 80,000 to Croker for a relatively meaningless league fixture on a freezing January night, it can surely attract half that number to a League finals double-bill. The same applies to the Tyrone v Armagh fixture. The way things are going, our kids will have to take up rugby if they ever want to play, or indeed watch their team, in Croke Park.
Tyrone /Armagh is a first round Ulster Championship fixture. This is the finals of the national leagues. There's a big difference in the arguments as to what should be played in Croke Park.

but no difference in the potential marketing benefit that is being squandered in both cases.
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 14, 2009, 12:47:48 PM
And the rugby isn't having any impact on whether games will or will not be played in Croke Park.

Did I say otherwise  ???
Fair enough, you didn't. But 'our kids' have much more chance of playing GAA in Croker than Rugby, even in the current situation. Also, the extent of rugby in CP at the minute is exceptional and won't last.

Maguire01


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thebandit

The double headr in Longford is a bit of an odd one.... cant see a massive crowd from Down or Antrim going....... Tipp could have a good support.

southderryman

quite surprised the GAA decided on croker for the game, they must be relying on a big support from monaghan, although in saying that we might get some bandwagon supporters abot earlier this year if the weather is good.

as i say, surprised at the venue, but quite pleased, it'll do our players no harm to get a game in croke park, hopefullly a bit of experience of the venue for later on in the year.

Katchit

Suprised as well but can only be good for our lads to get a game at Crokers before summer.