2008 Ulster Club Championships

[SidelineKick]

Irish History lesson OB.

http://www.finnvalley.ie/history/martyrs/sean_larkin/seanlarkin.html

Would be past his grave right and often.

[saffron sam2]

Would be surprised if you did recall it. A quick google should help.

Although, i will admit that my point is quite tangential to the whole thread.

[SidelineKick]

Quite 

[mackers]

In fairness, White is one of the better refs about, he was praised for his performances in the Championship last suimmer, reffed both Cavan Antrim and the first Ulster Final.
Bogball, the ref red carded McEntee because he thought he caught Conway on the face, in fairness to the ref the TV camera angle was close to that of the ref and I must say that on first glance (and the ref's only glance) it did look like he caught him high. It was only on subsequent replays that we could see that Conway cheated. In this one incident I would not blame the ref at all, i would blame the man that cheated.
The Ulster Council with the benefit of the replays that we have seen reversed the decision that the ref had to call on the spot. Common sense prevailed. It barely merited a yellow card, but then again virtually all fouls are now deemed to be yellow cards.

[Onion Bag]

Irish History lesson OB.

http://www.finnvalley.ie/history/martyrs/sean_larkin/seanlarkin.html

Would be past his grave right and often.

My History was never a strong point, cheers lads

[corn02]

Why should Conway be punished?

Cross players feign injury, Balinderry players feign injury - Dromintee players do it too before you think I am having a go.

Should we make an example of him just because the cameras were there?

[Hardy]

Yes. It would be a significant blow against this abomination in the game. Its prevalence in the game is probably mainly due to what lads see on television. Therefore, it's fitting that television should be employed in its eradication.

[amigo]

Why should Conway be punished?

Cross players feign injury, Balinderry players feign injury - Dromintee players do it too before you think I am having a go.

Should we make an example of him just because the cameras were there?

I am with you on this one Corn. Unfortunately it is common place in our games. In the first half on Sunday Tony and Steven Kernan both feigned injury in an attempt to get a player either booked or sent off!! Darren Conway did the same in the second half!! In my eyes there's no difference, players will do anything it takes to win a game!!!

[Hardy]

See, this is what 's most depressing about it - it's gradually gaining acceptance.

[SidelineKick]

Why should Conway be punished?

Cross players feign injury, Balinderry players feign injury - Dromintee players do it too before you think I am having a go.

Should we make an example of him just because the cameras were there?

I am with you on this one Corn. Unfortunately it is common place in our games. In the first half on Sunday Tony and Steven Kernan both feigned injury in an attempt to get a player either booked or sent off!! Darren Conway did the same in the second half!! In my eyes there's no difference, players will do anything it takes to win a game!!!

When was that? What minutes I would like to go and have a look at it now.  Not saying you are wrong but would like to know which particular incidents you feel they were trying to get a man sent off.  Did they go down clutching their faces?

I don't think the ref is really to blame as mackers said it was his only chance to see the incident while us armchair refs had the benefit of the cameras.  Conway should be punished yes.  If you can't do it when the cameras are there meaning there is NO dispute as to what happened then when can you do it?  If its not nipped in the bud now it will just escalate then we will have nothing more than what soccer is now.  Ten years ago when I loved soccer it was good fair hard hitting football, now its full of f**king pansies. Gaelic is heading that way.

There is a difference in lying down for a few mins to falling to the ground clutching your face to get a player from the opposite teams booked.  Next you'll see players waving an imaginary card to the ref to indicate the player that committed the foul should be booked a la soccer.

[corn02]

See, this is what 's most depressing about it - it's gradually gaining acceptance.

I wouldn't say that, but I don't see why one man should be singled out for the fact that tv cameras were there.

[saffron sam2]

See, this is what 's most depressing about it - it's gradually gaining acceptance.

I blame David Beggy.

Mick Lyons didn't help either when he got the slap from Colm O'Neill.

[amigo]

Why should Conway be punished?

Cross players feign injury, Balinderry players feign injury - Dromintee players do it too before you think I am having a go.

Should we make an example of him just because the cameras were there?

I am with you on this one Corn. Unfortunately it is common place in our games. In the first half on Sunday Tony and Steven Kernan both feigned injury in an attempt to get a player either booked or sent off!! Darren Conway did the same in the second half!! In my eyes there's no difference, players will do anything it takes to win a game!!!

When was that? What minutes I would like to go and have a look at it now.  Not saying you are wrong but would like to know which particular incidents you feel they were trying to get a man sent off.  Did they go down clutching their faces?

I don't think the ref is really to blame as mackers said it was his only chance to see the incident while us armchair refs had the benefit of the cameras.  Conway should be punished yes.  If you can't do it when the cameras are there meaning there is NO dispute as to what happened then when can you do it?  If its not nipped in the bud now it will just escalate then we will have nothing more than what soccer is now.  Ten years ago when I loved soccer it was good fair hard hitting football, now its full of f**king pansies. Gaelic is heading that way.

There is a difference in lying down for a few mins to falling to the ground clutching your face to get a player from the opposite teams booked.  Next you'll see players waving an imaginary card to the ref to indicate the player that committed the foul should be booked a la soccer.

Both incidents occurred in the first half. Tony Kernan went down holding his throat and got Wilkinson his second yellow and sent off!! Steven Kernan lay down after an altercation with Kevin McGuckin and got him booked!! Both players were feigning injury in an attempt to get their opponent the line. Unfortunately this is the world we live in guy's. There are no angels when winning is at stake!!

[Onion Bag]

Why should Conway be punished?

Cross players feign injury, Balinderry players feign injury - Dromintee players do it too before you think I am having a go.

Should we make an example of him just because the cameras were there?

I agree Corn,

It is something that we are used to seeing on the tv on a sat eveing on the premiership, but unforunately it does happen and to my knowledge i dont think there is a rule against it, only it is bad sportsmanship

[full back]

Why should Conway be punished?

Cross players feign injury, Balinderry players feign injury - Dromintee players do it too before you think I am having a go.

Should we make an example of him just because the cameras were there?

I am with you on this one Corn. Unfortunately it is common place in our games. In the first half on Sunday Tony and Steven Kernan both feigned injury in an attempt to get a player either booked or sent off!! Darren Conway did the same in the second half!! In my eyes there's no difference, players will do anything it takes to win a game!!!

When was that? What minutes I would like to go and have a look at it now.  Not saying you are wrong but would like to know which particular incidents you feel they were trying to get a man sent off.  Did they go down clutching their faces?

I don't think the ref is really to blame as mackers said it was his only chance to see the incident while us armchair refs had the benefit of the cameras.  Conway should be punished yes.  If you can't do it when the cameras are there meaning there is NO dispute as to what happened then when can you do it?  If its not nipped in the bud now it will just escalate then we will have nothing more than what soccer is now.  Ten years ago when I loved soccer it was good fair hard hitting football, now its full of f**king pansies. Gaelic is heading that way.

There is a difference in lying down for a few mins to falling to the ground clutching your face to get a player from the opposite teams booked.  Next you'll see players waving an imaginary card to the ref to indicate the player that committed the foul should be booked a la soccer.

Both incidents occurred in the first half. Tony Kernan went down holding his throat and got Wilkinson his second yellow and sent off!! Steven Kernan lay down after an altercation with Kevin McGuckin and got him booked!! Both players were feigning injury in an attempt to get their opponent the line. Unfortunately this is the world we live in guy's. There are no angels when winning is at stake!!

Was there any contact when they went down?
You must have been at the game & watching it very closely because the cameras didnt show the incidents